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Stephen_moore
Member
Post Number: 300
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Monday, November 21, 2011 - 05:15 pm: | 
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The website www.andromedacouncil.com makes good fairy tale bedtime reading but as far as truth it is in my opinion no where near it.
If there was a race of Andromedans contacting Earth Humans then they wouldnt do such a shoddy job of it as in providing no evidence of their existence and contacting a few web designers and persons alike who just want fame and fortune.
As for reptilians. Well we have all been here before. No need to spend much time discussing this one.
Salome
Website addresses - www.ufofacts.co.cc - www.thecircleforhumanity.net
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Redhalls
Member
Post Number: 25
Registered: 03-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2011 - 03:30 am: |
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Hi,
"how am I supposed to tell the difference between disinformation and truths?"
I think that's a ton of work if you don't have any knowledge at all about the subject yet.
Look at both the evidence and what skeptics are saying for all cases whether it's et with Billy or reptillian stories, etc.
Each case has to be analyzed and use your thinking to try to understand what's going on. Ask a lot of questions, for instance about reptillians things like: Are there any physical evidence? Did scientists recover a reptillian skeloton? Is it one or many? What scientists are saying about the skeleton if they have any? What other evidence you have? What other people are saying? Try to find experts because they may have lots of knowledge although still you have to make sure what they're saying is backed up by evidence.
Research the subject and stories about reptillians, get to know all you possible can. That way you can use your knowledge to try and think and understand the truth behind the matter.
Karl |
Zanderson
Member
Post Number: 20
Registered: 06-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2011 - 11:30 am: |
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One thing I use that is of help is, whether the information presented is of data/facts for me to rationally assess/verify or if the information presented is just a well orchestrated story that seems to captivate my imagination rather than leading to critical thinking.
Zanderson: Conscious Evolution...
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Rarena
Member
Post Number: 733
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 11:15 am: |
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Dear Karl (Redhalls),
The truth stands on it's own and does not change... in that case time will tell... Not all evidence can be backed up with material evidence... such as: how many thoughts can fit into a bodily organ the size of a grapefruit?
Not all evidence can be shown materially and must be understood on a level not connected to the one of the bodily organs... reason being one such example.
Consciousness is like a wet street you walk down that has a puddle in it... You don't see the puddle is deep one day and you walk into it and get your shoes and socks wet... The next day you walk around it... simple consciousness... The more conscious you become, the more you know the truth from knowledge, experience using that knowledge... which becomes wisdom... which becomes the power to more efficiently correct your environment to your liking. We are all equal and should be treated that way whether we are more spiritual or whatever, we are in this together and should consider ourselves one but the truth will stand on it's own.
I guess that's probably why one of the major twelve commandments or now called recommendations is about not lying. Because when we deal with folks who lie all the time, how can we know the truth?
Salome: Be greeted in peace and wisdom. |
Quest
New member
Post Number: 4
Registered: 03-2012
| | Posted on Sunday, April 01, 2012 - 03:12 pm: |
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Hi,
i really want to know if Alex colleir is true contactee of the people from andromeda galaxy? thanks. |
Ramirez
Member
Post Number: 678
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, April 01, 2012 - 11:44 pm: |
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Hi Quest,
No. Alex Collier is a fraud.
What he basically did was read up on the early contact notes, changed things around for instance Moraney is based on Sfath & Ptaah then began telling stories via lectures and writing books promoting himself as a contactee where he ..... takes on a pseudo Billy Meier role .... in his fantasies he models himself partly on Billy Meier.
It's wishful thinking, outright deceit, misrepresentation and hardly surprisingly has collected a substantial following of those naive enough to buy into his material ..... he is part of the "contactee" industry.
Cheers.
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Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 518
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Monday, April 02, 2012 - 12:40 pm: |
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> Please see the information at these links:
http://theyfly.com/newsflash5/THE%20_ALEX_COLLIER_%20HOAX.htm
http://theyfly.com/articles/Alex%20Collier.html
http://theyfly.com/Exopolitics.htm |
Drummerschlong
New member
Post Number: 1
Registered: 04-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2012 - 09:49 am: |
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Has Billy ever spoke about the Galactic Federation of Light? Do they exist? I was wondering if Billy could put a list on here of the fake groups out there that are claiming to help us? I heard a guy that goes by Tolec from the Andromeda council and was wondering about him. Also Greg Giles channeling Ashtar Command? How about Sheldon Nidle? |
Joe
Member
Post Number: 187
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2012 - 12:38 pm: |
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I must admit that at first I did find Alex Collier interesting to listen and I did start to believe in some of what he was saying but after coming across the Meier material it became clear to me that he was a fraud.
If I may also add, Bob Dean is also a liar or at least I think he is a liar because in a "Project Camelot" interview he claimed to have been contacted by ETs and was taken aboard their spaceship and when asked what sort of food did they serve him he replied bacon and eggs. I honestly don't know why Kerry Cassidy and Bill Ryan from "Project Camelot" haven't even intervied Michael Horn yet and they've been around for several years. If I'm not mistaken Bill Ryan actually lives in Switzerland but if I remember correctly he said that the reason why he hasn't yet intervied Billy is because Billy is hard to get to which I found a little odd because you'd think that Bill Ryan or Kerry Cassidy would at least try several times to interview Billy or Michael Horn which neither of them have. |
Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 520
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2012 - 01:20 pm: |
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> Let's make it both true and easy…they're LL fakes, liars and charlatans and o such federation exists. Of course any actual evidence to the contrary will be considered but…don't hold your breath. |
Ramirez
Member
Post Number: 680
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2012 - 03:16 pm: |
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Andromeda council, reptilians, ascension, 2012, exopolitics, ashtar command ..... it's all part of the contactee industry.
There already exists a list of frauds.
However why any need to consult such a list when a search of the names listed below on Youtube immediately brings up ..... the answers.
Greg Giles, Sheldon Nidle, Tolec ..... science fiction storytellers and rather boring ones at that  
If you seek a quality sci-fi read try the contact notes where at least rather refreshingly the information is based on reality.
The internet is saturated with assorted exopolitics - pseudo contactee clap and those guys are typical examples.
Cheers.
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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 2255
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2012 - 04:56 pm: |
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"Contactee Industry", that is a very good way to put it  |
Smukhuti
Member
Post Number: 627
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2012 - 10:07 am: |
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Ha ha ha...."contactee industry". 
Those who think they are of too high worth, pursue religion as a career option.
Those who think fellow human beings are of no worth, pursue politics as a career option.
Those who have no self worth, pursue “contactee industry” to trick their own mind into thinking that they are of some importance.
"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." - Carl Jung
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Edward
Member
Post Number: 2385
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, April 09, 2012 - 02:39 am: |
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Hi Drummerschlong....
Welcome to the FIGU board.
Billy did mention that anything with Light, Heavenly, Ashtar Command,
etc....are FAKE.
Ashtar Sheran (I think was his name), is said to be behind these false
mechanizations; influencing many so-called New Age moments at the time.
You may want to utilize the Search Engine for details? It was discussed here
in the past.
Pleasant Studying...
Edward. |
Joe
Member
Post Number: 189
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2012 - 01:17 pm: |
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Maybe I should retract a statement I had made about Kerry Cassidy and Bill Ryan not wanting to interview either Michael Horn or Billy. The reason for this is because I've just received a reply from Kerry and she said that when they were in Switzerland they wanted to interview Billy but for some reason were turned down. |
Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 522
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Friday, April 13, 2012 - 12:52 pm: |
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Kerry and Bill consistently turned down my offer to give them an interview. They were insisting that it had to be Billy, even though I told them that not only was I authorized by him to represent him but that this WASN'T a personality/celebrity situation but rather one in which the INFORMATION needed to be conveyed...if they were really interested.
And yes, Meier declined to be interviewed by them. |
Ramirez
Member
Post Number: 683
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Friday, April 13, 2012 - 09:34 pm: |
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Hi Joe,
If you visit project camelot and watch a few of Kerry Cassidy's interviews it soon becomes apparent that in some cases she ends up doing more talking than the interviewee ......
Also if you examine the extensive list of interviews .... quite a few of those are with persons of highly dubious integrity, maybe a little more bluntly, outright liars - fantasy story tellers.
To Kerry Cassidy it's an ego based thing ..... to get a story, enhance her reputation as someone who manages to obtain interviews with all manner of contactee industry celebrities which is what project camelot has become ..... home base for spreading untruths and deceptions masquerading as profound knowledge & cutting edge paranormal enquiry. Whether they are naive enough to believe half the stuff that they put on that site is another question .... similar to ....how many holy papas actually believed in sky man ?
Ptaah's enquiries revealed that it was actually very few and the majority simply played their role as a career and means of exercising power .... so it has gradually also become with the contactee industry ..... exercising power over the ignorant though in many cases sincere persons looking for answers.
Really ..... why would Meier consider being in the same room with Kerry Cassidy much less being subjected to an "interview" ?
Cheers.
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Markcampbell
Member
Post Number: 767
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2012 - 11:52 pm: |
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That's really typical , Michael , that some people would prefer to go past someone who is in position to represent Billy , as if Billy wouldn't hear about it . Stupidity would be an aspiration for such people to achieve . A great lesson to learn for those who think that protocol , manners and modesty are of no use to them . |
Quest
Member
Post Number: 22
Registered: 03-2012
| | Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 02:25 pm: |
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hi ramirez,
thanks for your answer regarding alex collier. |
Thomas57
Member
Post Number: 16
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 10:12 am: |
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Anyone have any information as to self-promoted involvement from the Council, during the time period, Earth 1600 to 1900? |
Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 588
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 01:45 pm: |
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> For moron "Alex Collier"….ooooops, I guess that should be more on him, see:
http://theyfly.com/newsflash5/THE%20_ALEX_COLLIER_%20HOAX.htm |
Jedaiah
Member
Post Number: 14
Registered: 09-2012
| | Posted on Friday, November 02, 2012 - 09:03 am: |
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What is the benefit of hoaxing? Like really... |
Stephen_moore
Member
Post Number: 332
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 02, 2012 - 09:51 am: |
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Jedaiah
Money, fame, self importance and making oneself look better than they truly are (not equal to every other human being)
Salome
www.ufofacts.me.uk - www.thecircleforhumanity.net
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