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Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 175
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 05:32 am: | 
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I have not claimed objectivity about the President for at least a few years. Now, Hell Yes! I want Obama to win. Despite his inevitable human flaws, he is a good hearted person, a rarity in today's political arena. In policy, planning, and implementation this one little attribute makes all the difference.
Even when discounting the importance of political ideologies, for me the most important element is this:
... With Obama, World War 3 will have to be rescheduled for a later date.
... If Romney wins, you better find a way to bend over and kiss yer ass goodbye, cause he will start World War 3.
Parik... is that what you want? World War 3?
Parik... do you want to see the world explode in a nuclear nightmare?
Parik... are you listening?
Parik... would you prefer a Republican war to a Democratic peace?
Parik.. do you really know how bad global thermonuclear is? It can basically end all life on the planet.
Parik... must you win?
Parik... do you want to go to war?
Life
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Earthling
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Post Number: 651
Registered: 05-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 04:34 am: |
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Regarding the middle east: fwiw, The Saudis prefer Obama to Romney, because he has demonstrated a neutrality and a fairness regarding Israel and the Arab states, something that Romney does not, as he caters to the right wings penchant for bullying, might makes right, resource-politics, religion-politics, xenophobia, etc.
The Saudis always have a vested interest in US politics and in particular the Presidency. They are savvy enough to know that the price of oil affects the pockets books of the US consumer which influences who they will vote for to a large degree. The Saudis are pumping their oil at full capacity in order to get the price of oil and gas down for the November election. It's their way of influencing and voting for the politics and policies of the USA.
Bruce
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Blake_p
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Post Number: 30
Registered: 07-2012
| | Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 08:39 am: |
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Maybe all of the selfish,entitled people of this country should re-read THE NEW COLOSSUS that resides at the pedestal of The Statue Of Liberty; If it is the Plejarens philosophy to Live and Assist to Live;then i think they would appreciate these words
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
We call ourselves the greatest country in the world,but dont want anyone to come here,amusing, Maybe they should replace those profound words with SORRY NO VACANCY! |
Ramirez
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Post Number: 766
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 04:53 pm: |
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Hi Earthling,
"The Saudis always have a vested interest in US politics and in particular the Presidency. They are savvy enough to know that the price of oil affects the pockets books of the US consumer which influences who they will vote for to a large degree. The Saudis are pumping their oil at full capacity in order to get the price of oil and gas down for the November election. It's their way of influencing and voting for the politics and policies of the USA."
That is a curious thing, how the price of oil fluctuates. Here in Australia during the olympics lead up prices which had been fluctuating anywhere from about $1.29 to $1.62 suddenly began dropping to $1.09 going even lower at some of the smaller independant suppliers which is a huge drop from $1.62 months earlier.
What could account for these wild variations ? ..... besides manipulation - rigging - price collusion for political and economic purposes.
Even now it fluctuates within several days from $1.29 to $1.52 at pumps i pass by each day.
If the oil companies want a political leader out prices rise before an election with the opposite should their "bought and paid for glove puppet" be useful enough to retain in position ..... maybe a crude and cynical guess but how far removed from reality ???
Blake_p
The door is open on a selective basis however sensibly the NO VACANCY sign is up because there's something of a mismatch with immigrants arriving whilst jobs are being exported .... an unbalanced two way flow which has eroded opportunities ..... except for those profiting from those flows .... the importation of cheap labor and export of profit potential by allocating investment and manufacture capacity overseas all the while making money via the flow of goods and resources.
It's always been traders and moneylenders who called the shots .... everywhere though the applicable example being rome and it's empire most of whose modus operandi england, spain, portugal, holland copied then perfected with the conquest of the new world ..... conquest and exploitation not just settlement ..... it's a mindset .... greed. THe final example being england with it's empire which existed based on slavery at the expense of so many people ranging from the carribean, africa, india, china and middle east.
And now whilst not operating in exactly the same brazen manner america has it's own version of an empire complete with gunboat diplomacy operating .... not really all of america but influential traders and moneylenders pulling strings behind the curtain.
Cheers.
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 573
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 10:45 pm: |
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> Regarding the Statue of Liberty at Ellis Island, note that this is where people enter LEGALLY for immigration. |
Edward
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Post Number: 2538
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, October 15, 2012 - 12:33 am: |
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Hi ALL....
Interesting insight....
"May Barack Obama...fulfill his Mission...."
Edward. |
Parik
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 04-2007
| | Posted on Monday, October 15, 2012 - 09:11 am: |
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Blake-P - your statements show the skewed view created by the media and supposed "fact checking" organizations. Flip-flopping was something they said about John Kerry against George Bush, the same narrative you are buying into for Romney even though when Obama does the same thing, it's called evolving than flip flopping. George Orwell was right, doublespeak is a huge force in our lives today thanks to the media.
Politifact is run by the NY Times which is very pro-obama/liberal, I wish we really did have a fair and unbiased fact checking organization but they don't exist. You can't go on only one but need to look a few, and then correlate with a candidate's past record. Romney's record is excellent when it comes to budgets, turning the finances of a state around or in his private career businesses. The more unemployed you have in this country, the more civil unrest will occur.
http://www.politifactbias.com/
As far as for immigration, that's a farce and media ploy that you have fallen for. The US was founded by immigrants and made into a nation in the late 1700s but you know the descendants of those immigrants become native citizens of said nation for many generations. And the immigration was largely from northern and western european countries for more than a 100 years and in no where near the numbers that have occurred in the past 45 years. And the greatest expansion of economic wealth per capita occurred after strictly restricting immigration. The US has largely had its population grow from immigration in the last 45 years thanks to the disastrous 1965 immigration act, but in a limited world w/ limited resources that's going to be a problem as well increases in technology is going to make said workers less needed. The reason why illegal immigrants do the work that legal citizens/immigrants wont do is because 1) they can be exploited and paid much less (thus driving down the wages) not because they are more skilled or hard working (though many of them are 2) our welfare state supported by people paying taxes from money earned at businesses created by entrepreneurs has made some of our people complacent to remain on welfare. It is a matter of numbers the more supply of labor you have, the lower the wages, plus if you legalize said immigrants, they are going to demand a higher wage and would be let go of right away. The plejarens strictly advise against economic migrants especially illegal. It will destroy a nation, and it has already done so for some states in the US. Plus, as I've stated before, Meier and plejaren strictly forbid or advise against mass immigration to a country that would change the historical majority which is occurring today in the US and is leading to the fractured society/balkanization, and to the possible civil wars prophesized by the Henoch prophecies.
That poem you posted isn't about immigration policy, and it was placed way after the statue of liberty was built by some liberal people. It is a call for other nations to create a country where they can take care of their own and perhaps help other countries peoples too - not open border for everybody in the world. You would destroy any host country with that kind of policy. Idealism may sound good but practical real world is the reality we live in. Plejarens ask for self-responsibility, and it is the responsibility of each nation to be responsible for their population not depending on other nations to act as a release valve for their own problems (e.g. Mexico).
MichaelHelfert - Obama is not necessarily a good hearted person as you think, his campaigns have been so corrupt (even their donations have been coming from foreign sources) and disingenuous as many others. He speaks about one thing and does another much as other politicians. He acts like he is above the fray but he clearly calls the shots in how they attack their opponents and mis-characterizes them. And the out and out lies I have seen by his campaign officials is beyond belief, I mean it's downright ridiculous. As i've said, i don't look to party but I look to an individual's story, past actions - Romney is a moderate by his past record. He doesn't tout his faith as his guiding principle like Bush did. He is a reasonable person based on his past record and actions.
Though you think Obama may be a nice guy, he still doesn't know what he is doing and that can be equally destructive for a nation that is falling apart from w/in. The american people are tired of war and wont be up for more, no matter what. Romney is not a zealot like the Christian Right or George W. Bush. His past actions, record, and past testimonials from people he has helped in his life show a man of integrity and compassion. yet, Obama's campaign has distorted the man as heartless, lying, cheating, uncaring and when people saw him at the debate - it wasn't what the unscrupulous Obama campaign team tried to make him out to be. Obama changes his personality for many different groups and says whatever they want to hear just as many other politicians. If he is a good guy, he would be truly honest to people about giving amnesty to illegal immigrants but then stating he cares about the poor and middle class (esp Hispanics and Blacks) which illegal immigration hurts the most, but he doesn't and he uses racial demagoguery when convenient. That's not a good man by any stretch. Yet Blacks will vote for him 100% based on skin color despite not knowing how much his policies do hurt them in the long run for making them independent, and keeping them dependent.
As for the VP debate - r u kidding me? Biden was all bluster and disrespectful, interrupting 82 times before letting Ryan finish his answer, even the moderator was helping out Biden by interrupting Ryan. It was disgraceful and showed you who the real politician is by the amount of theatrics, smirks, giggles, and bluster shown by Biden. The guy is a career politician and man who is more about words than actual results. Someone can sound good saying a lot of words/statements, but the results are clear as a day. And the amount of cronyism in this admin is just as bad other administrations.
this next debate will be interesting to see how Obama will come out and know what he is talking about for the first time. He has been doing debate prep this time and will likely have his talking points down much better, he doesn't like to lose per reports. Unfortunately, the future of the US is at stake as well as the world both economically and diplomatically, this is not a game to be won or lost. I want world peace too, but the US is crumbling as well unless you want the US to become ethnostates as has been prophesized. |
Corey
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Post Number: 302
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Monday, October 15, 2012 - 04:15 pm: |
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Parik,
Your pro Romney posts are getting old and boring. As for being so pro-Romney, after following the case for a decade haven't you ever heard Billy's warnings through transmission of Petale about the ANTI-LOGOS? The only reason so many people are pro-Obama is because of what Billy has said about him, which just reinforced the opinion many people had about him anyway. What Billy said about Romney in 539th contact just reinforced the opinion everyone had about Romney (except you).
You would think that someone that followed the case for a decade would take Billy's (and other credible sources) overpopulation warnings seriously and not want an anti-contraception candidate. You would see the good Obama did for contraception even though the religions didn't like it.
Get your facts right. Billy released a Bulletin some years ago where he predicted the actual number of climate refugees (200 million) in the future and he also later stated they will primarily be housed in the United States, so no matter what the US immagration policies are, the US will still become an "ethnostate" and that is the unfortunate truth. Contact 251 says even further in the future peoples will mix (Eurasians for example) so the predicted future worsening/mixing of peoples is not just limited to the United States either. Those are the facts from Billy's hand.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/A_Prediction
Salome
Corey
OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 178
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2012 - 06:12 am: |
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Parik, your observations are more skewed than even my own, and you brushed away the the top five reasons to vote for anyone other than Mitt Romney: war.
Global war.
Thermonuclear war.
War with chemical weapons,
and slick lies and deceptions.
War with genetically engineered biological organisms,
and insistent justifications and euphemisms.
War.
Vote for Mitt Romney and you vote for a world-destroying war.
Life
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Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 179
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2012 - 06:13 am: |
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Parik:
war...
Life
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Scott
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Post Number: 2322
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2012 - 05:07 pm: |
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There are approximately half a dozen posts in queue posted to this subject area, which have nothing to do with this topic. I asked a few posts back to try and maintain some relevance to the topic, but that seems to have gone right out the window.....The moderators will have to start blocking posts if the poster's make no effort to write something related to this area, or attempt to post in another area... |
Thomas57
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Post Number: 13
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 09:18 am: |
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M Horn - on the issues of emigration - states sound, creation-based thought.
On a different matter, with all the issues we face today - where were those human who would help and self-incarnate in the 1700's and 1800's? Are we needing to come back in time and slow the progress, -perhaps at earlier centuries? If this is not possible(according to P's, not so) why were there no creationary-based volunteers in the past two centuries? |
Thomas57
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Post Number: 14
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 09:40 am: |
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Scott - I agree; Parik's political commentary seems to lack the comprehension of how it ties into the Plejaren involvements.
On behalf of Creation-based thinking(my opinion) and in reflection of Plejaren involvement into Earthly evolutions, perhaps a discourse in USURY is needed(where would this be posted?).
This forum seems overly loaded with an absence of clear thinking(along the political lines).
I am wondering if there was any Plejaren involvement in Paine's "Age of Reason" ? |
Thomas57
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 10:07 am: |
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Parik: if what you are alluding (that the Plejaren's are not sufficient in their thinking of Romney), then it seems you have missed the clear, creation-based principles in your statement that "US was founded by immigrants".
Plejaren statements on immigration clearly denounce the White European raiding of this continent! Your reflections upon Romney and Obama reveal a severe LACK of research into either if these men(again, another point the Plejaren make).
Research the "Mormon" philosophy! Then- READ the US Constitution, prior to listening to Obama's speeches, especially those prior to the 2008 election. That US Constitution - specifically Article 1, Section 10, which provides that CONGRESS control the economic functioning of this country as-well-as declarations of 'war'.
Obama seems to be following MORE of the Plejaren Creation-based philosophies - than does Mitt Romney(and that does not even start to touch upon the blood oaths Romney takes each time he visit his temple). I KNOW! I used to be one and functioned there. I left due to the 'un'-creation based practices that Mormons are brainwashed with.
In economic reflections, perhaps an understanding of USURY and the Federal Reserve System(an act of Congress in 1913) will help you have the ACTUAL reasons for the current economic calamity we are now facing!!!!!
Saying you study(or may have) BEAM teachings - leaves much for your basis in thought, as it seems your studies were not so helpful?(due to reading of your posts)
In your posts upon the debates, you clearly seem to miss the Plejaren-fostered teachings that WAR-making, is NOT a form promoted by them. Mitt wants to fight everybody - as per his 1st debate tactics. He will find out that being "President" does NOT give him dictatorial powers - but that he will struggle against the 'real' government in the USA - the CIA-Banks-military complex.
When it comes to following Plejaren based teachings, OBAMA clearly leads any of the available candidates(and I KNOW he has not been able to do all he wanted, per Guantanamo and protecting US citizenry against Constitutional encroachment!)
Your knowledge and evolution is progressing - seems just not in the ways that are representative of Creation-based wisdom. |
Verlanis
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 10-2012
| | Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2012 - 11:20 am: |
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Billy is the only reason I have given my assent to a 2nd term for Obama. The geopolitical powers that put Barrack into office have moved to back Romney now, which came as a surprise to me. Those who are caught up in the creational winds will flow with the current just as an orchestra follows the conductor.
Blessed be those who watch and those who turn the key.
I will contribute in the way I can. My goal is to help in all areas that I can. I will think, and I will develope. Truth is to be discovered and explored.
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Matt
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Post Number: 283
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 02, 2012 - 03:48 pm: |
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The Plejaren have stated that Mitt Romney is a psychopath. I searched for evidence of this on the internet and found this which seems to support that he at least has one psychopathic tendency. (Supposedly one attribute of a psychopath is that they keep changing their mind on various issues.)
Could Mitt Romney Be A Psychopath? (Serious Question)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-7DFgtbTTY |
Edward
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Post Number: 2560
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, November 05, 2012 - 01:24 am: |
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Hi Guys....
Not to forget WHAT the Plejarans mentioned about someone that is 'severely'
Religious!
Such individual...is: Schizophrenic!
Which would indeed put such individual in the Psychopathic, definition.
As I mentioned before, here....that Romney said: "What America needs is a
Religious president!"
Well, that DOES....speak for itself, not?
Last week, Romney said, Obama is not doing enough against Islamic Terrorists.
And, wants to beef-up....this action. Well, I think we have ANOTHER Bush...at
hand...: if he(Romeny) is elected for president.
Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, said, he will wait till after the
elections and see who wins, and than continue with further negotiations on
the country's Nuclear problematique.
Thus, if Obama wins, negotiations are ON....if not, he may take a very hard
stance against the USA and Allies, possibly.
Edward. |
Corey
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Post Number: 317
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Monday, November 05, 2012 - 10:03 am: |
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There is those points and then (not to go off topic) during the 3rd debate, Romney said when he's President he will have the US military prepare for two wars @ once. He also kept bringing up God @ the debates, mentioned he was a pastor, and I saw an interview where he said the Constitution was (divine) inpspiration. Romney keeps bringing up the fact that Obama would "decimate" the military, to crowds of 20 and 30 thousand people, and the crowds are just eating it up. Romney's rally's are the size of what Obama's where in 2008, and in comparison Obama's rally's have shrunk in size this year. Romney spurring on Gewalt with the people, all to stand in the limelight, a Bush part II all the way!
and then there is this: http://news.yahoo.com/paul-ryan-says-obama-compromise-judeo-christian-western-045635969--abc-news-politics.html
and this: http://action.lcv.org/site/PageNavigator/climateshare.html
We won't know until Wednesday whether religious delusional human beings with an affinity to barbaric war and violence, who are oblivious to the planet itself, are running the country or whether it will be Obama. I would say Ptaah, when he said Romney will walk over dead bodies, was spot on.
Salome
Corey
OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 195
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2012 - 05:52 am: |
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Well, now that Barack Obama has won the right the administer America's government for another four years (YES!), we can drop the opinions of Mitt Romney's dastardly character, and focus on complaining instead. It's gonna be a busy four years, so hold on to your hats!
Life
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Jedaiah
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Post Number: 24
Registered: 09-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2012 - 12:33 pm: |
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It wouldn't matter of a monkey was the president. It makes no difference due to the fact that the president is just a puppet. |
Ferbon
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Post Number: 128
Registered: 05-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2012 - 05:55 pm: |
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Jedaiah
You will have my vote if you lead a monkey party. |
Jedaiah
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Post Number: 25
Registered: 09-2012
| | Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2012 - 05:12 am: |
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Ferbon,
You're quite insecure aren't you? Reading your antagonistic posts have shown me time and time again about your deluded know-it-all mentality and undeveloped form of thinking. |
Jedaiah
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Post Number: 27
Registered: 09-2012
| | Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2012 - 05:16 am: |
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I am very curious why the admins are allowing this Ferbon person to openly be so antagonistic. |
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