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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 811
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 04:10 pm: | 
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Once in a while I'll sense an opening in someone's consciousness ,between the glistening and the water of the deep blue sea , to insert a thought ; and if that thought don't sink , Mark is gonna offer you a knowledge drink . In so many words . |
Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 215
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 05:35 am: |
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I can't tell if my wife really believes the Plejaren or real or not - if so it would be quite a switch for her. The Plejaren paradigm is just too much for her to want to consider it. The idea of extraterrestrial anything is just too controversial for her. Were ET whats-its to be announced on the television, where everyone would be discussing it, then she would be more interested in the idea. So I asked her if she wanted to go to Switzerland, specifically to visit to the SSSC. She thought about it for a second or so, and said no, she preferred to live in the present, not some futuristic fantasy.
I think that this is my own fault, emphasizing for her the potentials of mankind by looking into the future, rather than the rationally-derived spiritual path we can all follow here and now.
Life
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 497
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 07:46 am: |
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Hi Hawaiian, a former Canadian military told me that it was routine for American military coming out of the bush to be brainwashed as soon as they landed. What shenanigans they were up to is anyones guess. This is the same man who also saw a ufo craft in a Canadian military hangar back in the '50s. Still trying to figure out if it was the infamous Avro Arrow whose program was abruptly cancelled...well that was the official word but no one believes it.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 136
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, December 22, 2012 - 08:38 am: |
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G'day Folks
I have been telling all and sundry about figu, i remember when i first found figu and thought no logical human can dismiss these words but boy oh boy was i wrong, anyway maybe its the Irish in me but i would find it quite boring if people where like oh Billy i know him aren't his words fantastic! I find it so unbelievable/exciting most people in oz dont know about Billy yet, yes it would be good if more people close to me would spend more time reading Billy's words but at least i can see clearly now. Now i know why people are the way they are and its funny when you ponder it and about our situation.We decide what affects us, nobody else.
I am happy i know stuff now, REAL Stuff, i can figure out anything now, but i must realise i know nothing to be humble.
In Star Trek that played today Janeway and crew where travelling through a void and after a few months of this she said while gazing out the window at the darkness how she would give anything for a few borg cubes atm
Most people wont be ready until the next life, WE will be waiting, Resistance Is Futile ;-)
eh ehj
Plant seeds: i ask them do they really believe they come from a monkey and do they really believe the universe is sterile but for earth eh eh, ask them to ponder things, let them know the Universe is Wild! ask why should it not be so. Ask them do they really think you get one life then goto heaven or hell, Let them know our Ancestors do care and communicate the only way they are allowed, if we seek we will find. Let them know tv is scripted, all of it, it's 90% lie wrapped in 10% truth on a good day, most tv is false flag fear merchant news that will rot the brain. (except some shows, tv is like music, its in harmony or it isnt) I Mention figu.org ,if possible i show them the Mein Geist prayer.
Some people seem more interested when futureofmankind.co.uk is mentioned
It is a challenge to show truth to those in Plato's cave but it would be boring otherwise, we are only a day into the new age. As we say downunder (its like painting the harbour bridge) e.g. it's never ending,you finish painting one bit and another bit will always need painting.
Scientists are the most institutionalised/brainwashed and think they know all, i just remind them of this fact and most big discoveries where made by people not institutionalised as they had no consensus/belief
I ask my spirit to remember for eternity what Nokodemjon and the Plejaren taught me and to live by the laws of The Creation.
Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings.
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Wagner7seven
Member
Post Number: 7
Registered: 10-2012
| | Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 06:04 pm: |
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Hello to all members of FIGU. I've got an idea to make some videos and post on yutube, telling my story in order to wake people up, but giving water to some, I know I'll be hated by many in yutube and maybe even dangerous, but not afraid. Would the opinion of you. I thank you all for helping me. |
Justsayno
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Post Number: 509
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Monday, January 28, 2013 - 08:33 am: |
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Just wanted to mention that my post #497 has been realized on the front cover of Popular Mechanics Vol. 190 No.2 February 2013 edition. But of course the article doesn't say where the reversed engineered craft came from. Could very well have been the one which crashed at Duhamel, Alberta in August 1947, one month after Roswell. Maybe their March edition will update the information...but not holding my breath. Even though the article may not be that accurate, due to not being able to reveal everything, the fact remains that the Avrow Arrow was a ufo type craft. Thanks to my former military friend who spilled the beans, we need more of them.
(Message edited by indi on January 28, 2013)
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Ferbon
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Post Number: 213
Registered: 05-2012
| | Posted on Monday, January 28, 2013 - 08:59 am: |
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Wagner
Be careful with what you call "waking people up". Simply recommending studying/analyzing Meier's case to the public should already be enough.
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Retchie1973
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Post Number: 21
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Monday, January 28, 2013 - 07:45 pm: |
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Most of the time i often would like to shy away from the discussions with regards to the Teaching. But those who have known me for being so religious before would always ask me WHY on earth that i did a 180 degree turn......and also they saw what i post on a social network which they find it offensive and not attune to their faith based dogmas and doctrines.....i tried to tell them but everytime they here about CREATION as oppose to god we ended up arguing but what i do is i embrace them and say to them.....if there is salvation according to your belief there is my evolution according to what i study......
retchupax
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Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 180
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2013 - 11:49 am: |
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G'day Wagner7seven
i think figu needs to come up in youtube for keyword ufo
so have (ufo) in the title a few times and the description as much as is feasible
nothing wrong with saying "waking people up" either mate, go for it, we are expecting Ferbon to wake up soon but he dont like them words yet
G'day Justsayno
Popular Mechanics is lame stream media so dont expect much from them, they always try and debunk the truthers for many things
Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings.
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Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 259
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Monday, February 18, 2013 - 05:50 pm: |
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Here is the text of my minor wiki war going on:
Regarding the Billy Meier wiki war
What is the issue?
The report I read stated that had I vandalized a page. As I see it, the other party instigated the vandalism.
Whoever this other party may be, they repeatedly remove all references to Billy Meier from the Apophis page, no matter that Herr Meier was the first person to actually talk about Apophis.
This may be because of what the Billy Meier wiki page states, which is personal, highly biased and insulting, and even defamatory.
To be precise, what I stated in the popular culture section of the description of Apophis was this:
* Since at least 1981, [[Billy Meier]], in association with the extraterrestrial Plejaren Federation, has been openly warning Earth's peoples and governments that if its course remains unaltered, Apophis will most likely strike Europe in 2036, cracking open the planet's crust from the North Sea to the Black Sea, utterly devastating the European continent, and killing many millions of people. The Plejaren give considerable details about the asteroid, and offer advice on how to avert the impending doom. <ref>{{Cite web |title=Danger of a Collision with the Red Meteor |work=TheyFly |url=http://theyfly.com/Red_Meteor.html}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |title=The Adventures of Billy Meier |work=(a comic book presenting simplified information)|url=http://theadventuresofbillymeier.com}}</ref>
What pages do you wish to edit (and create...)?
Billy Meier, Apophis, the Plejaren, and perhaps a few related issues, such as planetary carbon cascade and overpop
Any other comments?
As wikipedia's initial FIGU contact member, I would like administrative power over any Billy Meier/Plejaren wiki pages, so that I can pass on the responsibility for maintaining these pages to other people who are truly qualified for the moniker 'objective administrator'. (Hint: anyone quoting Kal Korff is neither honest nor objective nor forthright.)
Regardless of what you agree to, your response will be posted on the FIGU forum for us all to consider.
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Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 262
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, February 21, 2013 - 06:20 am: |
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Here's the text of my latest attempt to communicate with someone at wikipedia.
What is the issue?
You banned me for disruptive editing? I was posting a request to have a spam accusation removed. Here is the text of my request:
==TheAdventuresofBillyMeier.com==
{{report top}}
:{{Link summary|theadventuresofbillymeier.com}}
This website is for information purposes only. No monetary profit has/is/will be made from the information it provides. No money is exchanged, no information gathered, nothing like that. It's only purpose is to disseminate information in a readily understandable comic form for such simple folks who do not want to sift through the mounds of documentation that back it up. The comic strip is a one-off, only produced for this one subject, that Apophis is going to strike Earth. I can think of no better place to post this than the 'Popular Culture' section on the 99942Apophis entry.
In my attempt to refer to Herr Meier's warning about Apophis, a warning which preceded even the popular discovery of Apophis, a warning which continues to this day, I myself have been accused of vandalism, banned from wikipedia, and now this spam accusation. I have contacted the wikipedia administrators regarding this banning, twice, and have thus-far received no reply, nor even the confirmation email that's supposed to be sent out. I don't have anything to do with theadventureofbillymeier.com website or the comic strip, I am only posting a link to it for its informational value. So far all I am seeing is a one-sided defamation of Herr Meier and the information he presents.
What pages do you wish to edit (and create...)?
Billy Meier, Apophis, the Plejaren, and perhaps a few related issues, such as planetary carbon cascade and overpop
Any other comments?
Oh great monolithic silent entity that you are, contact me. Please.
I am posting our thus-far one-sided conservation on the FIGU forum for all to see.
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Michaelhelfert
Member
Post Number: 263
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, February 21, 2013 - 10:27 am: |
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The first and perhaps the last response from wikipedia regarding the Billy Meier/Apophis entry:
Response 1
I finally received a response from wikipedia in the form of an email. Here is what it said:
This is a reply to your Wikipedia unblock appeal from Yunshui, a Wikipedia administrator. DO NOT reply to this email - it is coming from an unattended email address. If you wish to send a response, which may be necessary to further your appeal, please click the link below.
Send a response by clicking here
Hello (IP address),
I am declining your unblock request because it does not address the reason for your block, or because it is inadequate for other reasons. To be unblocked, you must convince the reviewing administrator(s) that either the block is not necessary to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, or that the block is no longer necessary because you understand what you have been blocked for, will not continue to cause damage or disruption, and will make useful contributions instead.
Please read Wikipedia's Guide to appealing blocks for more information.
(name)
English Wikipedia Administrator
When I attempted to 'click here' to appeal this form letter, I got this message:
The action you requested could not be performed: Your appeal has been marked as closed, which means the adminstrator reviewing your appeal feels the matter is resolved. If you received a message that indicates you will be unblocked, but you still cannot edit, please try again in a few minutes. If you are still unable to edit, you may wish to post {{unblock|<contents>}} to your User Talk: page. If your appeal was declined, then you may wish to appeal again in several month's time, or appeal to the Ban Appeals Subcommittee by emailing arbcom-l AT lists DOT wikimedia DOT org.
There was one link available, the 'usertalkpage'. Clicking on this link produced this response:
Advice
Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you may want to do. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia.
WARNING: You can be BLOCKED for edit warring. Please do not add unscientific and self-promotional material to Wikipedia as you have repeatedly done. -- (name) (talk) (time), (date) (UTC)
you have been reported on vandalism in 99942 Apophis Gerhardvalentin (talk) (date) (UTC)
February 2013
You have been blocked temporarily from editing for persistent vandalism. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding below this notice the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. (name) (talk) (time), (date) (UTC)
Contact 7:
info-en@wikimedia.org
subject: Appeal procedure has failed, who do I talk to?
Dear Sir or Madame,
I do not feel we are approaching a subject of importance for wikipedia fairly. Instead, I feel as if we have been running up against a wall of preconceived opinions held by individuals who are not willing to consider the facts. And we are now left with no recourse. Hence I am emailing this address, a shot in the dark no doubt. There are several things going on here:
1. I noticed that the Billy Meier wiki entry is both biased and insulting. I would like to be able to initially administer the wiki entry for Herr Meier. I have visited this man, studied his writings, and objectively considered what he has to say. I have looked over the proofs and criticisms in detail, in depth, and talked with many people about this case over the years, indeed for about a decade now. I like to think I know what the issues are here, and who is objective and who is not. At the very least, the people whose assessments are presented in the wiki entry on Billy Meier are NOT objective. We can do much better.
2. I attempted to edit an entry on 99942Apophis, which Herr Meier has said will strike Earth if its current path is not artificially altered. My intention was and is to present this not as a scientific statement, because this circumstance has not been publicized in the popular scientific literature, but rather under the already extant heading of 'Popular Culture'. For my efforts I have now been banned from editing wikipedia entries, and even banned from further appeal of that ban.
The full text of my multiple appeals and the single final response I received are presented below. The specific names have been blotted out because I am simultaneously posting this on the official public forum devoted to all things Billy Meier (found at www.figu.org), the specific link to which can be found in the text below. For posterity, this email will also be posted on that same forum.
Thank you for your time and apparent consideration,
Michael Helfert
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Ilovebilly
Member
Post Number: 198
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, February 21, 2013 - 12:53 pm: |
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G'day Michaelhelfert
i encounter a lot of resistance on big websites in regard to Beam, but resistance is futile ;) eh eh
Our reason and understanding are aligned in such a way that we find creative solutions for everything Mate!
this is worth a try:
on elance.com hire someone with a high wikipedia rank (e.g. number of EDITS) to edit the page, they can be from Russia or India its low cost
hire the person with the most edits (or several people with high # of edits to back it up) the only skill they need is high # of wiki edits
minimum time to hire is 1hr, just post this in the job description on elance
(dont post the wiki text in the public space for all to see, private message (pm) it after you decide to hire him/her):
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i need someone to edit a wikipedia page
how many edits have you done?
bid for 1hrs work please
more work could be available
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php coders are only $25 per hr and thats expensive on elance and way overqualified for the job but its not important the # of edits they have done on wiki is, so it would cost $50 maybe more or less depending if they need to defend the edit (and they will) but the person with highest # of edits can make it so, preferably find someone with 50,000 edits or more if possible, a few thousand edits at bare minimum, Russian coders are highly recommended, they cost a little bit more.
wikipedia i have noticed is keeping people in the dark deliberately for many things, Like all the big sites its gov influenced.
http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/whowriteswikipedia
the wiki owner says this:
over 50% of all the edits are done by just .7% of the users
524 people.
And in fact the most active 2%, which is 1400 people, have done 73.4% of all the edits. The remaining 25% of edits, he said, were from people who [are] contributing
a minor change of a fact or a minor spelling fix
or something like that.
its probably less than 100 people, most of the content on wikipedia seems to be written by heavy editors
look for coders who have positive elance votes and many jobs completed if possible, dont hire someone who has not done any prior work, dont let them know its close to your heart, dont let them know what other pages you edit, dont release funds from escrow or vote until You are ready (within reason as its a task getting around the obstacles eh eh.)
many coders only look for work when a job is completed so if no suitable people apply re-post the job a few times, once a week, its free to post jobs, the coder pays a % of takings. From this Compile a list of coders who have a high # of wiki edits for Future reference, you should find 3 who know the ins and outs of wiki from years of trial and error and thousands of edits (he/she might need to re-word it)
Importantly Before you hire a coder private message (pm) the experience you have had and the edit you want done and if it needs to be changed to gauge the probability of success with that coder.
the best way for big jobs is a Firm/locked price for the whole job, not hourly rate, the description needs to be good though, it always takes 30% longer to complete a job than what the coder/s say, if time is critical you need to factor that in
coders are like artists so be gentle but firm
what i say is not a bad reflection on you in any way, i wouldnt get it past the fanatic editors either
elance is a HUGE site, i have no affiliation but i have used it to hire coders, its the best site to use to find honest coders, thats why i mention it, many similar sites you might know of will do.
i will help with the coder's fee if need be, it wont cost much
Neutral positive, the wisdom of The Creation for whatever happens, Reverence and Venerability
Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Michaelhelfert
Member
Post Number: 264
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Friday, February 22, 2013 - 05:57 am: |
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In my mucking around the hallowed halls of wikipedia I must hit some of the right buttons because I received three further responses from wikipedia this morning.
The first one comes from another person on the Unblock Review Team who sent out what must be a standard form letter.
"I am declining your unblock request because it does not address the reason for your block, or because it is inadequate for other reasons. To be unblocked, you must convince the reviewing administrator(s) that either the block is not necessary to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, or that the block is no longer necessary because you understand what you have been blocked for, will not continue to cause damage or disruption, and will make useful contributions instead."
The second comes from a general info answer board.
"Wikipedia always, as a rule, considers the opinions of mainstream, well published
articles, above everything else, especially when it comes to the fields that Billy
Meier is involved in. There is nothing you can do.
Yours sincerely,
(name)
--
Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/
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Disclaimer: all mail to this address is answered by volunteers, and responses are
not to be considered an official statement of the Wikimedia Foundation. For
official correspondence, please contact the Wikimedia Foundation by certified mail
at the address listed on https://www.wikimediafoundation.org/"
The third comes from the arbitration committee.
"Thank you for writing. However, the Arbitration Committee does not accept appeals of short blocks or bans as it is likely that your 72 hour block will expire before we had time to consider your appeal. We will therefore not be hearing your appeal, and you should pursue an appeal of this block through the usual, community-based venues: see <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/wikipedia:guide_to_appealing_blocks>."
I am gonna pursue the certified letter approach.
ilovebilly, while that approach to editing wikipedia may make sense for you, for me it feels less-than-honorable somehow, so I won't do it. In working to further the Mission, every time I have strayed from the ideal path even the slightest amount, even with the best of intentions, various actors have called me on it, so I am gettin the message nowadays that I can only do things the best way, or not at all. If you want to pursue editing wikipedia by paying a professional wikipedia editor to do it for you, then I wish you the best of luck with it, although in the long term (if there is one...) that approach may come back to bite you. That said, thanks for the comment, I certainly understand the intention.
Since we are keeping tabs on all things Plejaren, et al., I do wonder why our all-knowing government is publicly sitting back on its hands and just watching while Europe gets obliterated. It's a horrific thing for us to do. Official denial... when did our government get so good at it that it became synonymous with lying?
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Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 459
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Friday, February 22, 2013 - 04:13 pm: |
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Michaelhelfert,
Remain steadfast in your resolve my friend.
Also, it is time that knowledge of the Plejaren visitations to our planet is known and recognized as I can see from the people around me and the events I experience them in proves to me that there are so many out there with an open mind. Who are truly curious, interested or that have seen beamships themselves.
Perhaps the following may be helpful to you in your efforts.
In the Talmud Jmmanuel chapter 7 verses 11 and 12 it states the following.
11) "Ask, and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.
12) "For whosoever asks of their spirit (consciousness), will receive; and whosoever seeks through the power of consciousness, will find; and whosoever knocks at the door of their consciousness, to that person will it be opened.
This is further corroborated in the Goblet of Truth in chapter 3 verse 60 and 61.
60) And if you say a prayer in truthfulness to your inner world (consciousness) for something to come about that you rightfully wish for yourselves and you do everything so that it may come about, then it will do so.
The key is to instruct the consciousness, as one who knows, so that it give us what we want.
I recently had some very trying and tough things happen to me. I was devastated and sunk in feelings and despair. Somehow I remembered these and other passages that gave me some hope. So I decided to trust the words of the prophets and I prayed to my consciousness. I made a clear picture of the situation and then instructed it with what I needed and asked it to help me as I dealt with it.
I was shocked and amazed at what happened then. I now do it with everything! With everyone. With every desire and idea. I even experienced "consonance" and what an amazing thing this is! I no longer live in the same world I once did. I understand now where and in what we exist and the tools we have at our disposal.
There are so many verses popping into my head but the above should suffice.
You have a gift for writing and expressing. The world needs to know. The world is full of people that will want to know what your gift can make available to them.
Salome,
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Adityasonakia
Member
Post Number: 250
Registered: 07-2007
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"hello everyone My experience telling about the Billy Meier case to my friends wasnt g ood at all. No one believed me, and on top of that they couldn't stop laughi ng about the fact that I write some of the spiritual teachings in a book. Th ey say it's absurd for me to believe something what aliens said. I asked the m to read it for themselves and figure out how logical it is. That they do n ot want to do. So I can't help it. I don't let it bother me though. Coz ulti mately we have to be true to our own selves." |
Ilovebilly
Member
Post Number: 199
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, February 23, 2013 - 03:07 am: |
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G'day Michaelhelfert
ok so this is what i am understanding so far
you dont have the experience with controversial edits BUT want control over ALL of Beams/figu's wiki pages?
but make waves with wiki editors and Administrators and arbitration committee! in regard to Beams pages! from lack of experience at getting controversial edits accomplished? and have a link that is promotional? (e.g. sells things on its website) when the link to theadventuresofbillymeier.com would suffice
(No Offense to the Very Important work of theyfly.com owner Michael Horn as you will know its just the wiki protocols being explained)
re:
I must hit some of the right buttons because I received three further responses from wikipedia this morning
but then you are telling us this:
((There is nothing we can do?))
AND you want control of ALL pages?!
do you think its going to be easier now hostile editors (And NOW Administrators and arbitration committee) are on the case as the post is seen as Promotion? figu is now considered promoting vandals by wikipedia
editors dont explain in detail the ins and outs in a detailed way, its upto the poster to study beforehand
from my perspective now hostile editors (and Administrators and arbitration committee) are in wait when a proper attempt is made and you are now saying:
to Give Up!
please no more attempts Michaelhelfert as your wiki post/edit is seen as promotion by wikipedia and you are spamming wiki, it needs a professional wiki editor to look at it as its controversial
i dont think you should test your ability on Beams pages, an expert who knows the ins and outs of wiki from experience would be a better solution, (doing a few dozen edits and spamming the same post isnt experienced)
from wikipedias perspective the post is vandalism and promotion plus they consider figu a disruption and spam attack!
re you say to wikipedia:
Oh great monolithic silent entity that you are, contact me. Please.
is that the right approach Michaelhelfert? Really
its your wiki edit/post that needs editing so its not seen as promoting mate, please understand this
wiki editors even tell you: No monetary profit has/is/will be made from the information it provides
e.g.
#1 thing bothering wikipedia is theyfly.com would be considered a promotional link, (No Offense to the Very Important work of theyfly.com owner Michael Horn as you will know its just the wiki protocols being explained)
i dont understand why you would try the same wiki post many times (spamming) with a promotional link in it and not try and fix the edit to be inline (not to mention respectful) with wiki protocol then tell us to give up
then saying to hire a wiki professional is less than honorable etc is not true or logical, its like saying to hire a web designer to do any figu site is less than honorable, logic not emotion please mate
Reverence and Venerability
its important this wiki topic is mentioned on figu so we all learn from our mistakes, i am not angry with you nor would i expect you to be angered from conversations we have, its important we learn from each others mistakes/knowledge also. At the end of the day we are all in this together, i will be clear though, its not the figu way to spam, not listen, vandalise etc... and its not less than honorable to hire a wiki expert but not listening, spamming etc... would Definitely be and it will Definitely bite
wiki posts/edits need to be done correctly to wiki rules
((i think if anyone is going to be doing a wiki edit please learn the protocols 1st and dont spam etc... but learn/listen to wikipedia or hire an expert))
the editors etc.. dont tell you whats the issue in detail the poster needs to know the rules 1st, they mainly point to the rules page/s. Having a link that sells anything on any page (even if not selling items on the link in a wiki post but is selling something on other pages) is considered promotional and a big no no for wikipedia, i have seen them on wikipedia but generally it wont be allowed
for controversial topics often its best to hire an experienced wiki editor, its no different than hiring an experienced web designer
nobody controls the wikipedia pages either, anyone can edit them if its done properly
All my conduits are open to The Creation and Nokodemjon and The Plejaren
Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Ilovebilly
Member
Post Number: 201
Registered: 04-2011
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G'day Adityasonakia
Good on you mate, I like telling people also, its a start
for many people its not difficult to Plant seeds: i ask them do they really believe they come from a monkey and do they really believe the universe is sterile but for earth eh eh, ask them to ponder things, let them know the Universe is Wild! ask why should it not be so. Ask them do they really think you get one life then goto heaven or hell, Let them know our Ancestors do care and communicate the only way they are allowed, if we seek we will find. Let them know tv is scripted, all of it, it's 90% lie wrapped in 10% truth on a good day, most tv is false flag fear merchant news that will rot the brain. (except some shows, tv is like music, its in harmony or it isnt) I Mention figu.org ,if possible i show them the Mein Geist prayer.
Some people seem more interested when futureofmankind.co.uk is mentioned
It is a challenge to show truth to those in Plato's cave but it would be boring otherwise, we are only a day into the new age. As we say downunder (its like painting the harbour bridge) e.g. it's never ending,you finish painting one bit and another bit will always need painting.
Scientists are the most institutionalised/brainwashed and think they know all, i just remind them of this fact and most big discoveries where made by people not institutionalised as they had no consensus/belief
keeping in mind the talkativness page
http://ca.figu.org/Talkativeness.html
its ok if people dont know at least we do early rather than later ;)
Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Michaelhelfert
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Eddiemartin, thanks for the kind words, insight, and advice. There really is just one truth that we are all approaching together, each of us coming at it from our individual angles. The closer we all get to this truth, this objectively determined actuality of our existence, the more we can all pleasantly agree.
It's kinda like putting a bunch of sharp rocks together in a tumbler. The longer we keep bouncing off other, the smoother we become.
Life
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Redbeard
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Hello Adityasonakia,
It is difficult to find people that are willing to be objective and openminded about any topic. Billy warned about those that are prejudiced and have preconceived and hard held opinions. It's odd because most of the naysayers consider themselves to be progressive and forward thinking!
I have a relative that won't even take the time to read it to see for himself, but I also have those whose egos are not so inflated that they can immediately see the logic and appreciate it..
That would be you, in this case, you made it through to something truly unique if nothing else very interesting......
To be so ruled and controlled by fear of being wrong, or just worried that the truth might be more that they can handle!!!
Redbearded
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Michaelhelfert
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ilovebilly: I was figuring on passing administration of the relevant wiki entries on to the FIGU moderators, or someone at the SSSC, or the something like that. That can be argued over and hammered out if we ever get that far. This is not a responsibility for a single person.
My intention in initiating contact with Wikipedia is to get their treatment of Herr Meier, the Plejaren, etc. to be fair and unbiased. The only way I see that happening is if the wiki entries about the Plejaren, Herr Meier, etc. are NOT managed by professional skeptics who summarily criticize anything based on preconceived notions about how the world should be, and then justify such dismissive assertions by nitpicking.
I believe that the best way to present the relevant information is in a balanced and objective manner by people who have actually been involved with this particular extraterrestrial contact project. These are the people who are the actual experts on this.
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Adityasonakia
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Hello Ilovebilly,
I completely understand and agree with what you say,
but also, I'll say that our place or origin also right now is determining our open-mindedness...
I can say this because I come from India. My society of people are extremely religious. Our traditions and rituals are carried out with full enthusiasm and love. Its good to see that in this way religion is making them happy, but at the same time they dont realize that they are narrowing there view of life... Questions on GOD are not taken very well, and athiests dont deserve a place in society. Children are brainwashed to know that there is a GOD looking at you and anything you do will be on HIS judgement. Ehhh???? Stupid na?
But yes, there are elements rising everywhere in search of the truth. People are moving above god and trying to realize what the bigger picture is.
"Scientists are the most institutionalised/brainwashed and think they know all, i just remind them of this fact and most big discoveries where made by people not institutionalised as they had no consensus/belief"
But dont you feel that an institution is where we start to get open minded? For example, when we're in school and we're told about the atom, its intriguing to hear how the electrons move about the nucleus, and only as we go on to college we understand more about it. Yes, most discoveris were made by pure observation to nature, but that time we didnt have the technology to do anything else also i guess. Now we do. And i believe that there are a few scientists out there who are spiritual, and understand these things much better, i.e. they are at another evolutionary level than us.
Salome,
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Adityasonakia
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Hello Redbeard,
Thank you for the kind words. 
Salome,
Aditya |
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