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Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 447
Registered: 08-2010
Posted on Friday, December 14, 2012 - 06:55 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Blake_p, check this out.

Billy:
Thank you for your remarks. Then now a question about the so-called Roswell Case. Did a UFO actually crash there? Even though you have already confirmed this once, there are still some things that remain unclear, even with regard to the UFO crew, concerning which you said that they were androids. So what were the occupants really, and from where did the aliens come?

Quetzal:
74. The Roswell Case is a reality because the UFO crash actually took place there, but this is denied up to the present day and will continue to be denied in the distant future by the American military and Secret Services, as well as by all government agencies, namely with flimsy, changing, stupid, and ridiculous excuses that will only surely testify to the fact that everything actually happened.
75. With the crashed object, it concerned a beamship from the Reticulum systems.
76. The crew did not consist of natural human life forms but of human androids of a bioorganic nature, which means that they were artificial human androids, which the US-Army also got a hold of, some living and some dead, and these were secretly kept in secret stations.
77. With the bioorganic androids, it concerned effective artificial life forms, so not robots or the like, but independently thinking beings, in every way self-capable of making decisions, made out of living material and living organs, bred in accordance with the human beings who are located in the Reticulum systems.

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_215

Salome,
Eddie
[7:-)
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Blake_p
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Post Number: 59
Registered: 07-2012
Posted on Saturday, December 15, 2012 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Eddie;
Thanks for the response, im not sure if you were just tying in the Zeta Reticuli because thats where most claim that the greys are from there or maybe eluding to something else?, yea i also remember Ptaah or Quetzal whoever he was talking to said that they(humans from reticulum systems) were extremely high in technology but small in spirituality so the Plejaren wouldn't contact them or be able to incorporate them into their federation
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Skyrim
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Post Number: 57
Registered: 06-2012
Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All,

Michael Horn once said in a radio interview that the ufo Roswell crash was real and that it was a deliberate crash. My question is what was the reason why the Zeta Reticuli ET's did this?

phil
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 788
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2012 - 08:08 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Skyrim,

It was a deliberate crash in that the very powerful radar of the time operational at the Roswell air force with a range of around 100 miles base "painted" the approaching craft whereby the frequency of it's radar beam had the result of affecting the navigation equipment aboard the Zeta craft to such an extent that the crew lost control of their ship resulting in it diving towards the ground some distance away.

It was an accidental discovery that earth radars at the time emanated a frequency able to disrupt controls on some of the visitors craft which might explain how at least some of the around 6-7 alien craft managed to crash.
It wasn't always mechanical failure or pilot carelessness .... earth radars.
No doubt word spread and they now have appropriate shielding installed.
Cheers.
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Skyrim
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Post Number: 58
Registered: 06-2012
Posted on Monday, December 17, 2012 - 01:57 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Ramirez,

I still don't understand because that all sounds like an accident(s), and not deliberate? Isn't there a big difference between accidental and deliberately?

phil
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Edward
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Post Number: 2617
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Monday, December 17, 2012 - 02:17 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Skyrim...

What Ramirez, mentioned, is so. I remember that too. [Good, memory
refresher]


Difference between, - accidental and deliberately -?

Accidental, say...Unconsciously

Deliberately, say...Consciously


Edward.
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Melissa
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Post Number: 51
Registered: 01-2012
Posted on Monday, December 17, 2012 - 06:35 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I really love this PDF, as it contains the letters from 'Nurse Matilda MacElroy' of the Roswell case. I read within the letters, the description of the captured ET, which correlates exactly with Quetzal's description.

http://exopoliticshongkong.com/uploads/Alien_Interview.pdf
-Melissa
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Scott
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Post Number: 2349
Registered: 12-1999
Posted on Monday, December 17, 2012 - 08:06 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This document states this "ET" refers to being millions of years old?..
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Ferbon
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Post Number: 172
Registered: 05-2012
Posted on Monday, December 17, 2012 - 08:49 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Melissa
Why do you "love" this PDF? Have you read the disclaimer?

Salome
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Melissa
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Post Number: 52
Registered: 01-2012
Posted on Monday, December 17, 2012 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Ferbon,

Yes, fiction was an effect, due to no documents to back it up. I think they all got burned? Anyway, I did not stake any claim to any validity, only that I love this PDF. Why? Because it was one of the first PDF's I had read, which ultimately help lead me to find the Billy Meier material. After reading related information here on the forums about the Roswell case, I realized how some details given here on the forum, corresponded to some details within the PDF.

Very simple, and I apologize if my 'loving' the PDF has caused any confusion as to being translated to anything other than, I enjoyed reading it.

I also love to read comics, mystery novels, world news, etc.

:-)
-Melissa
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Skyrim
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Post Number: 59
Registered: 06-2012
Posted on Monday, December 17, 2012 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Edward and All,

I don't mean to be difficult but I still don't get it?

phil
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Edward
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Post Number: 2625
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 01:22 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Phil....


No problem.


Difference between, - accidental and deliberately -?

Accidental, say...Unconsciously--> You did something...WITHOUT knowing you
did it. "Un-purposely committing the act...WITHOUT Intention", so to speak.

Deliberately, say...Consciously--> You did something...KNOWING....that you
DID...do it. "Purposely committing the act...WITH Intention", so to speak.


Example

So, you can hit someone on the head...Accidentally/Unconsciously, "not
wanting", or you can hit someone on the head...because you 'want to', which
is Deliberately/Consciously.


If we take the downed craft: it was Accidental/Unconscious(/Unintentional).

USA did not know at the time that such affect would take place with the
craft; possibly, neither did the ETs, or else....they would have known this
and avoided it.

Thus: it was NOT Deliberately/Consciously(/Intentionally).


Edward.
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 789
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 05:41 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Skyrim,

If the US air force deduced after the event that in all likelyhood the cause of the crash resulted from the UFO being "painted" as the term is used when a radar beam illuminates or hits an aircraft then you might infer that the event was an accident rather than a deliberate or calculated action. In those days as now airports have radars operational 24/7. It may have been the unique frequency of that particular model of military radar which affected the craft.

It's identical to jamming radio, radar, television or guidance control systems though at that time (1947) the science of electronic counter warfare was in it's infancy.

So maybe it was just bad fortune on the part of the Zeta crew that they crossed the path of a powerful radar beam which sent their craft controls haywire long enough for it to crash towards the ground.
Cheers.
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Skyrim
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Post Number: 60
Registered: 06-2012
Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 07:00 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Edward and Ramirez! I think I understand now.
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Marbar
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Post Number: 233
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2012 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Since the Plejarens got rid of the bafath when one of the Bafath's spacecratf attacked one of the Plejarens beamships, I have been wondering this.

Before the Bafath got removed from the Pyramids of Giza, they tries to kidnap and killy Billy. Now, if the Bafath successfully kidnapped Billy; what actions would the Plejarens take to rescue him?
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Edward
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Post Number: 2636
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Monday, December 31, 2012 - 01:45 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Marbar....

Nice to hear from you!


Good question!

Well, possibly, one of the groups in the Federation...may have some
technology, which could help in the scenario? Capable, of Neutralizing the
craft and its occupants? Say, paralyzing...the crew and to just be able to
release Billy from that unfortunate situation. Via, some sort of beam or
something? Or, perhaps, be able to BEAM Billy (back) into a Plejaran or
Federation craft...?


Edward.
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Thomas57
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Post Number: 53
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Melissa;

Excellent post #51!

Link provides data source materials that cross many POR.
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Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 254
Registered: 09-2011
Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Plejaren planet is very similar to our Earth in many ways, including in its gravity field. It is doubtful that the Plejaren would just float away in our atmosphere unless held down by leaden weights. People from any other worlds would also probably weigh too much to float in air without some facilitation.

That said, the idea of adding some weight to a body to compensate for a lack of gravity is one way to approach the problem, though I personally don't think it would accomplish quite what we are looking for here. Instead, it seems to me that we need to develop such a control of gravity that we can induce an appropriate gravity field, even for just a single individual in a jumper suit.
Life
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Orphelia
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Post Number: 70
Registered: 08-2012
Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2013 - 11:58 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi everyone!

I'm just a little confused about something, and if I may ask the question here and hope that someone may give an answer ?

I've read somewhere that Asket and Semjase are friends, and then somewhere else [can't remember where] that they are cousins?

So what exactly are they ? If they're cousins does this mean that Asket's mother or father are brother/sister to Ptaah?

Then my next question would be; Who is more Advanced here, Askets Dal Universe or the Andromedians? As I read a lot about the Andromeda Galaxy having the high council etc..

Thankies.
Don't be afraid to let your inner strength guide you. Live it, but don't fear it, love it, but don't lose it. Take care of it, and always keep it next to you. - Orphelia . *smiles*
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Patm
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Post Number: 199
Registered: 07-2006
Posted on Monday, February 25, 2013 - 06:27 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Orphelia,
Ezekeel was the father of
Casill and Sfath who were brothers

Asket is the daughter of Casill
Ptaah is the son of Sfath
Asket and Ptaah are cousins

Semjase and Pleija are the daughters of Ptaah.

Sfath is the great-great-grandfather of Quetzal.

See the drawing at:
Lineage-Genealogy

Salome
PatM
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 821
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Monday, February 25, 2013 - 08:42 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ho Orphelia,

Asket and Semjase are friends .... not related.

Presently Semjase is staying with Asket's people (Timar) in the Dal universe for 70 years recuperating after an accident where she hit her head in a fall in the late 1970's and was critically injured.

The Dal universe is a big place with many variations in development exhibited by various races same as our universe. It's not possible to compare though persons like Ptaah who have been in contact with both the Andromedan's and Timar would know more.
Cheers.
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Savio
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Post Number: 721
Registered: 07-2000
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 02:32 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear all

I refer to the above drawing of Lineage-Genealogy.

It depicts that Nokodemion spirit-form (Semjasa the demigod) fathered Adam.

My impression is that it was Arus's leader Semjasa(the demigod JHWH) who fathered Adam.

Please help to clarify the picture by pointing out the related information source

Salome

Savio
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Blake_p
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Post Number: 92
Registered: 07-2012
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Orphelia;

The dwarf race in Andromeda has already moved into last evolution stage,half spirit/half material bodies, before they reach the purely spiritual level of Arahat Athersata so they are far advanced compared to the Plejaren or the Timars,Askets' people, That is why the high council instructs and is the foremost authority to the Plejaren and their federation. Even Askets' poeples friends,the Sonaer ,are, or were more advanced then them or the Plejaren,that's why they had started to collaborate with them some time ago on various projects.

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