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Ferbon
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Post Number: 155
Registered: 05-2012
Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2012 - 04:14 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Staphaniewbrooker

...in the context you've presented- the pleasure is mine.
Probably one of the most important things through which the mission improves is its open-mindedness and of people involved will to listen. Understanding of Meier's material and what it represents is a matter of time. Not a short time, but as he said -in your lifetime you will notice- some of his words become reality. Because of this, what people may consider silly now, may be the most regarded norm and truth in 50, 100 and so on...years. There is no "silly" here but rather truth or deception and you won't be able to gain personal experience or find out what's what without interaction with others. Who knows - maybe it is your way of thinking that will set example for many. Really, being able to perceive Meier when he is still around, is not accidental. It evokes the fillings of pride, uncommonness and need for showing the world the only way. That's right - not through words and battles, but self striving for knowledge, self improvement, self standard of living etc. Not through shouting on the streets and demonstrations - but self being focused and self enjoying every day because now at least you know what is your purpose.
If the surrounding ignorance is choking you - here's the place to show how "silly" you are. Imagine if you were the only one on Earth being able to understand Meier. How lonely would that feel?

Salome
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Flaming_pie
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Post Number: 30
Registered: 11-2012
Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2012 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Stephanie,

I sure hope that you continue to post here with all of us. I would really like to hear your perspective on things.

I too have experienced my share of frustration with the Figu forum. I agree with you, at times it seems like a boxing match of 'who knows more than who.' And I can see how a woman could be turned off by that. But please add to the population of women here to balance out the effect. Each and everyone of us have the power to make this forum a better place. And it can start with a conversation right here with all your Figu friends. Of course you might have to start using a full size keyboard instead of just your texting thumbs:-)
Anthony Alagna
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Jedaiah
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Post Number: 43
Registered: 09-2012
Posted on Monday, December 10, 2012 - 04:28 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So about those forum updates...
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Stephaniewbrooker
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Post Number: 24
Registered: 04-2011
Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

> Sorry=2C about the way my messages are coming across=2C I am using a lapt= op for these messages=2C but for some reason its is coming across a little = letter distorted=2C Ill work on figuring out why that is so. And yes I'm v= ery grateful that I came across this information and it woke something insi= de of me about July of 2010 and I have been studying ever since. Although= =2C it has led me to try and understand the why's of the universe that we k= now and develop a true understanding of the Big Bang and why I don't believ= e in a god. Therefore=2C i've been reading a lot of books about the histor= y of religion and books by Richard Dawkins=2C Sam Harris=2C Bart Ehrman=2C = Stephen Hawking=2C Dan Barker=2C John Loftis=2C and others. And then tryin= g to focus on the Spiritual teachings available and contemplating that with= nature and the universe from what I can see at this point. I have lacked = a lot in meditation lately=2C I use to have a daily routine=2C but some asp= ects of life have been a little overwhelming lately. I just want to expres= s to all of the group members here=2C that in no way do I mean to say you a= re silly=2C I just meant that the back and forth im better than you attitud= e leaves a bad after taste and I feel that to be silly. I do feel alone in= this knowledge I have found since I don't have anyone on the same page wit= h me with this information=2C but I dont let that deter me from spreading t= he information undercover. At work I laminated each of the Meditations Fro= m Clear Sight and posted them in our break room each day to give others som= ething positive to think about each day=2C everyone loved it. They saw me = have one written on paper in my pocket and reading them each day and they a= sked me to laminate them and post them. I thought that was cool. Im tryin= g in my own little way!Saalome=20
Saalome
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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 813
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's a nice idea , Stephanie , posting the Meditations from Clear Sight in your office . Those affirmations are logical and reasonable , making them thought provoking and assimilable to anyone . Jolly good .

Kind Regards , Mark
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 499
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2012 - 07:52 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Stephanie, I like that. I have been thinking about doing the same, posting verses on the staff room wall...you beat me to it LOL. Great Job!
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Thomas57
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Post Number: 47
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Sunday, December 23, 2012 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stephanie; The text breaking the way it is showing up here, may be from Mac usage; I get that from those using Mac's and 'Blackberry' cell phones. Also, it may be an 'HTML' vs. text, as a part of your system's communicating settings. (the '2c' and '=' showing in your text)

On the matter of sharing - especially, here on the Forum, still remember there are many posters here slowly removing their religious biases and cause-effect from that does come out in their words(especially those who think it their duty to instruct the rest of us with arbitrary references to "Search" statements, rather than perhaps sharing a link as to where one of the things you were searching for are posted!)

I found that sharing levels of personal data and experience attracted more of those religious-cults followers or past members of such - than it did actual, consciousness-growth-oriented posters. This was especially true for those points-of-reference where something was learned OUTSIDE of the Meier material, and shown by that Meier material to be nearly identical or actually preceding that, in result. This - may of course - be due to truth not being something that can be manipulated by dogmatic processes.

Seems IMO, many are not fully testing their own stuff - prior to sharing it here. - Better put as- sharing that level of where 'they're at', which is in the level of their knowledge and experience. I have found a need to 'translate' that with each posting here.

Great to read your posts - you come across as a person in the midst of sharing her learning. Thank you.
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Bluejaguar
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 09-2010
Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2013 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A great idea to help the mission would be to create a show or movie that would really display the essence, knowledge, wisdom, consciousness-related abilities, peace, harmony, and everything else that makes their culture and way of life so advanced. We have books that gives one's consciousness a clear view of their knowledge, wisdom, and way of life, but a movie with the explanation that this is based on a true story would inspire people. Show them how we can grow in areas, dealing with technology, harmony, brotherly/sisterly/universal love. The movie could so how they interact and how their planet and world is in reality without given any information that would cause them any problems.
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 654
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Thursday, April 18, 2013 - 12:30 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All

Years back or rather around 7-8 years to be exact upon discovering Billy through the Gaiaguys or more specifically Vivienne's article I felt such an overwhelming enthusiasm and excitement for the information that in between breaks from a business I was managing at the time I would head straight to the State Library of Victoria with an arm full of printed articles from FIGU and Gaiaguys and bury my head into the teachings with such zeal and determination.

In the process so many ideas just kept coming to me on my fervent desire to get this information out to the public.
Such ideas included:

-Buying books and materials to donate to the many local, state and national as well as higher institution libraries.
-In the wee hours of the morning print out a load of stickers with FIGU's website and stick them on in as many train, bus and tram stations.
-Through my employees or associates, get these young people who have access to public notice boards in universities, put up information about FIGU and Billy.
- Through announcements and advertising through paid local newspapers and magazines put up information and website address of FIGU and Theyfly.
- Through my associations with the Larouche movement at the time, convey and provide materials from FIGU to associates and directors.
- Contacting politicians and giving them articles and books from FIGU.
- Setting up a stand on Bourke street just as similar socialist movement have already done at the time and passing information and leaflets on FIGU.
- Going to all the major shopping malls and shopping centres and passing or posting leaflets with FIGU information on it.
- Going to local businesses and passing them printed documents from FIGU.
- Photocopy the peace symbol and stick them in the business premise.
- Tell as many people about Billy and FIGU.
- Get taxi drivers to stick stickers with FIGU website on their cars.
- Sticking stickers with FIGU website on lamp posts and light fixtures on the streets.
- Graffiti on the back streets of Melbourne the FIGU and Theyfly website address.
- Doing the peace meditation everyday in every opportune moments.
- Participate in as many UFO related forums to get the word out.
- etc etc etc.

I'd managed to do some of these things listed yet something had occurred within me that kinda put a stop to all this.

After reading the Arahat Athersata I began to realise that most of what I had listed and done amounted to nothing more than force.
Couple with this is the realisation that I can do more harm than good even with the best of intentions and create evil without knowing it.
Further to this realisation was that its all good for me to be very enthusiastic and get all pumped up and stuff but through my actions, there were real people behind the FIGU who were the one's who will reap all the negative repercussions and be the one's who would have picked up the broken pieces of shattered glasses if it eventuated into that scenario.
So all this spreading of information just as Billy had warned about on the matters of missionizing had further remifications and consequences than I had initially realised at the start.

So the inevitable conclusion that the situation taught me was that on the one hand the masses aren't ready for a loud revolution of truth but a silent revolution of truth that happens invisibly and underneath.

People aren't interested with some exceptions and that the situation also taught me that I must use my wisdom, subtle tact and reservedness in how I go about spreading the information.

So now there exists this massive self censure within and the tight grip on the unbridled enthusiasm and to not give way to them but merely to go about things very subtlety, quietly and unnoticed but honestly.

So the best ways to help the mission in the end was to fix my own backyard, to work on improving my own weakness and any hypocritical elements within, to make the effort to discard the degenerate and negative aspect of myself and to try to find out what the heck the Creational laws are, how they apply to each given moment and to muster some wisdom to know when and how to apply them, especially when dealing with people.

So that is my thoughts on how to help improve the mission.


Cheers
Matt Lee
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Edward
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Post Number: 2727
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Monday, April 22, 2013 - 12:28 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Matt...


Thank you...for being Truthfully Honest!

We all, at one time...: will get to KNOW ourselves.

Enthusiasm...is ok, but when One becomes a 'fanatic'...than, there is 'lost
of Control'. So, we must distinct the both from each other.

"Force Feeding" has its disadvantages, and which the Plejarans and Billy,
etc., would not implement. Only time, that Billy mentioned something about
Force Feeding was when it comes down to the/our Global Overpopulation
probelmatique. That would be about the only instance.

Indeed, we should handle very Subtle, and with our Common Sense, Logic and
Reason.


Edward.
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 658
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Monday, April 22, 2013 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Edward

Thanks for reminding me about chicken feed tossed and undigested.

When you wrote the words 'force feed' it reminded me of one of Billy's written passages.


Cheers
Matt Lee
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Ferbon
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Post Number: 271
Registered: 05-2012
Posted on Friday, April 26, 2013 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Everyone

I was thinking about the possibility of providing English and maybe also other Figu forums with voting application. Through voting we could sense the sentiment of out thoughts and ideas with others, shear data with all Figu forums and try to socialize ,unify and learn with them by voting on common matters. What are your thoughts on this?

Salome
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Mark92111
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 04-2013
Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2013 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Billy and friends of the mission
I am very greatful for my new eyes (so to speak) for all of the work you have
done with the assistance from the Plejarens. Thank You! :-)

2 or so months ago I stumbled upon the Meier case on the internet.
Since then I have discovered that this is the truth that I have been
searching for since early childhood.
So with that I give you my perspective on what I have found so far. If these
subjects have been covered already then I apologize. I did try finding similar
posts but it does take many hours to read all of the posts.

The Talmud of Jmmanuel is slowly being disseminated.
In order for us earth humans to "believe" what is written we must first
believe that highly evolved off planet beings exist and that Humans are among
them. Then we have to believe that Billy is a Prophet. I can't speak for other
countries but the majority of Americans will not see the way to comprehension
let alone truth. I suck at math but even I can see that the process to truth
will take an extremely long time and I would not wish this current reality on
anyone. 30,000 years from now 'I' do not want to look back and see that there
was suffering and blindness throughout the majority of those years.
Earth humans have had to endure off planet visitors meddling with our natural
growth (for better or worse) since the beginning. Seeing how our Bible or 'instruction
manual' has been completly altered and the back-up copy burned while in the
hands of a religious human who was picked as the person to assist in the
mission. (this fact has me wondering what was going through the mind of the
designer of this plan). Someone took responsibility to have the scrolls
un-earthed. This person or entity (In my opinion) should continue to take
responsibility (if they are not already) for having ALL of it disseminated to all of the people of earth.
I would imagine a highly evolved race could find a way to do this without
breaking the rules. Or even see past some rules in order
to prevent a longer term suffrage.

Prime Directives

I can understand why the Plejarens and You can not reveal
certain technologies and information. Earth humans are not ready. I get it. What
I am so far unable to understand is the limits that have been set to prevent
their existence to be KNOWN by the people of earth in a faster manner.
The Plejarens are allready eaking out their true existence to the earth humans.
What difference would it really make if they made them selves KNOWN to everyone
within say a month? Like a massive ongoing beem ship presence that cannot be
ignored or reasoned away. I could imagine occasional interviews and updates
being broadcast on television radio and the internet featuring Billy and the
Plejarens talking truth. :-)
Otherwise, in My view we (Earth humans) must wait an even longer period of
time before real positive change can occur. This means many life times will have
massive suffering. Why sit by idle and allow so much suffering?

We have people in power in the United States that seem to look at the book or
movie "1984" as an instruction manual. With all the "warnings" they got from
FIGU who's to say they did not take them as instructions on which path to take
towards domination of the planet and to keep people zoned out in
religiosity.
Salome , Mark
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Mark92111
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 04-2013
Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2013 - 06:19 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I like the idea Ferbon. (says the newb) lol
Or at least something like FB or U-tube where you can "Like" or dislike"
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Ferbon
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Post Number: 274
Registered: 05-2012
Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2013 - 01:22 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mark92111

I was thinking about really simple voting application which would show collective sentiment about particular subject inside one or many landesgruppen. Sample questions: how many hours per day do you use for learning German?; when did you first stumbled on Meier's material? etc.
Subjects to be voted on could be suggested by members and submitted by moderators and give clear form of bonding with others as well as casually inviting those who generally mostly read the forum.

Likes or dislikes to particular matters could be made available under summary posts, again - as way of approval or disapproval of the summary to signal further need for discussion on this.

Voting could be option for:
- inviting "silent" members to take part
- creating common bond among landesgruppen
- offer another choice of communication
- stress reliever if people don't accept summary and want it to be discussed further, etc.

Salome
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Matthew
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Post Number: 73
Registered: 03-2011
Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2013 - 02:43 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Mark,

Welcome to the FIGU forum. Glad you made it!!!!

With regards to your point about why the Plejaren don't make a big show of it, I had to smile as I asked the same question when I first joined the forum and back then I was referred to this link which really helped me to see the bigger picture.

http://www.tjresearch.info/denial.htm

Hopes this helps you as it helped me.

Peace,

Matthew
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Mark92111
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Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2013 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you Ferbon, I like your plan better than mine. Having something like youtubes likes and dislikes to each article or post is rather unnecessary and could be quite vague. I see someone posting a long comment and getting dislikes for one portion and likes for another portion of the article. No accomplishment could come from that.
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Mark92111
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Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2013 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you Matthew. (my middle name btw) Thanks for providing that helpful link.

I have more questions surrounding the intentions and actions of Plejaren. Scot was courteous enough to allow me access here in the forums so I will honor his previous wishes to other members here and move this topic to another discussion. I hope to see ya there.
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Edward
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Post Number: 2738
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Sunday, May 05, 2013 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Guys....


Mark92111, has a point.

Years back, we had here on this board, an icon or 2...with "likes and/or
dislikes"; One could just click on one of the icons.

After a while, a majority of boardees, saw no real purpose in it and it was
taken down. I, myself, found it quite useless! So, we do not have to repeat
such a feature, again.

We should just manifest Neutrally. [Neutral-Positive....]


Edward.
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Johnboy
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Post Number: 113
Registered: 07-2008
Posted on Sunday, May 19, 2013 - 08:23 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had an idea that could help with translations. Does anyone have the computer savvy to use software like Google Translation and replace the words in the software with the words from the FIGU dictionary? To me, it would seem that the translations would become more accurate. I do not have the computer skills to make it happen. But, I feel it would help all translators. In other words, with 'FIGU translation' using the FIGU dictionary...we could simply copy and paste a contact report into it and the results should be a translation at the speed of light.... Thoughts?

Johnboy

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Johnboy, it is possible to do this with various programs. I have done it with the Promt program and it works very well. It took me quite a while and a lot of effort to make it happen though, but now I update it as I go as the FIGU dictionary is updated.

However, all this does is insert the FIGU dictionary words into the mechanical program, and does not guarantee any better translation overall from the program.


(Message edited by indi on May 19, 2013)
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Johnboy
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Post Number: 115
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Posted on Tuesday, May 28, 2013 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you, Indi. I had hopes that the FIGU dictionary insert would speed things up from the point of being more accurate.

Johnboy
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Abdiel
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Post Number: 77
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Posted on Saturday, July 06, 2013 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have an idea to improve the forum...

Why don't you open a forum for guests...

You know, a part of the forum created specifically for those guests that don't agree or that agree in part with you?
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Badr
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Post Number: 549
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Sunday, July 07, 2013 - 01:20 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Abdiel,

There is no need for a guest section. The forum is for everyone to use, you have voiced disagreements before on the forum and everyone is entitled to their own views about anything. So there is no need for a special section. In my opinion it is always good to have or discuss healthy criticism.

And naturally every human is bound to agree with somethings and disagree with other things, otherwise we would be having a another religion with blind faith in our hands, since we are not really all able to prove a lot of what is being taught, yet. But many elements of the teaching can be understood with logic and experience.

Peace,
Badr

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