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    Skyrim Member Post Number: 66 Registered: 06-2012 |
Does that Plejaren ray gun shoot only in straight line or does it shoot around corners? phil | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2653 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Abdiel and Bob... Not to forget, that the Plejarans...are NOT of ONE type of species race, but, ALSO...consists of a variety of races!! From other parts of their Lyrian/ Vegan Cluster; and, all (together) migrated to the Pleiades. So, they are just as Intermixed (to some point) as we humans on Earth. Not always of the same Spiritual level, but they have ways of coping with this. [In Guido's book - AY...TF, it is explained in details...] But, their difference in Spiritual level...is still far beyond that of us Earthlings. Edward. | ||
Abdiel Member Post Number: 70 Registered: 11-2010 |
Should we all end up looking and acting the same, so much wonderful variety would be lost. Instead of pointing out how wonderful the Plejaren model is because they have only one race, lets find a way to respect our differences without all having to become the same. MY RESPONSE The plejaran model not work here. They are one race we have a lot of different races living here. We are condemned to auto destruction. This is our destiny. I only hope that they (the plejarans) learn from us, so than they don't have to pass through the same experience. To put different races to live together in one planet is to guarantee the destruction of that planet and the involution of those unfortunate races. One planet must have only one intelligent race. If there are more than one intelligent race, future wars will break out and the possible destruction of the planet. Is against the natural laws that a planet have more than 1 intelligent race. Is a natural occurrence against the nature. | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2656 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Phil.... Yes, good question! Logically, it would just be in a Straight Line. Do not think it could act as a 'Smart' Ray/Beam. It was mention in the Contact Notes, that there is a ray/beam which could destroy any given planet...so-many Light Years away! And, still hit....Bulls Eye. So, I guess, the ray/bean should be in the correct alignment to execute this processing procedure to hit...Bulls Eye. Unless, the ray/beam can 'worm' its way past those obstacles? Edward. | ||
Sauroman11 Member Post Number: 41 Registered: 12-2010 |
I heard that Kaner group is pionering new ecological graphene capacitor based batteries that can charge instantly and are light weight. Are you talking about this type of energy source? Does this device require high voltage supply? Why can't be used terrestrial batteries? What spectrum of light does laser utilise? Billy Meier told that gun works in two modes - lethal laser that can make holes in tree and non-lethal that only paralyses enemy. Are these shooting modes based on same laser? | ||
Abdiel Member Post Number: 71 Registered: 11-2010 |
To edward: For to advanced and evolved that the people that compose a society are, that society cannot survive under a diversity mode. I don't know in the "fine matter" but here in the gross matter universe not exist such thing as a diverse society where it's inhabitant from different races live in peace. That is against the most fundamental laws of creation and the principles to preserve the peace and the survival of the life form. As long as a life form is in the material world, that life form must observe that primeval and very basic natural law if want to reach a high level of evolution. | ||
Abdiel Member Post Number: 72 Registered: 11-2010 |
I have understood that the star tayget have 4 inhabited planets. If there are different races, those different races are in their respective planets. So, for this reason exist the peace in that region To have more than 1 intelligent race into a planet is against the nature because always the resultant is wars spiritual stagnation and the destruction of the planet. | ||
Skyrim Member Post Number: 67 Registered: 06-2012 |
Hi Edward, If I recall correctly they said that Ray Gun has a small screen on it to aim with and it can shoot around 18 kilometers long. This to me doesn't seem like technology that is thousands of years ahead of us because we have lasers that can do that now, only not in a small gun package. So thats why I thought it's possible their ray gun can shoot around corners. phil | ||
Michaelhelfert Member Post Number: 244 Registered: 09-2011 |
I appreciate that we are thinking about and working through this social justice problem. Let's not give up yet! So many people have simply made up their minds, and are not giving it any further thought. They tend to fall into one of two camps: 1. any recognition of the differences between people is an evil bigotry, or 2. one type of person or another is the best, and everyone should be that type of person. Such people are not progressing along the wisest path, but only along the brand of righteousness that they see before them. Perhaps the best way to approach a grounded and wise path between the two extremes is to keep in mind that as spiritual forms we are all of equal righteousness, but in the personalities that we manifest and live through, we are not. Our task is to build/evolve the best personalities that we can, lifetime after lifetime. I daresay many of us (myself included) have a long way to go before we attain an ideal self. As Bob pointed out, the shape and color of the vehicle is of less concern than its vibe. The problem is that these two concepts are intertwined. These are the politically incorrect but universal truths that we are trying to deny: that genetics do play a role in determining what sort of personality develops in a person, and that equal rights for all people rightfully should have limits. Knowing that we are equal in spirit, should we have sympathy for the devil? Genetics does play a role in determining what opportunities and righteousness we have in life. However, this is only the surface of a much deeper equation. As spirits we may all be equal, but in any given lifetime we each choose to live through the personalities that best suit us/serve us. We ourselves work towards building better personalities, lifetime after lifetime after lifetime after lifetime, in a long succession of stories. Both individually and collectively, we work to build wiser personalities, deeper knowledge and awareness, and better vibes. In the course of this, the vehicles we choose to live through have significant impact on our development. How then should more modern peoples and societies relate to less developed ones? Not by opening themselves to the races of people whose collective will has not yet manifested a modern society. Not by allowing open immigration for people who grow up in a conflict-ridden or less-developed country and then illegally insert themselves into a more modern country seeking a better life however they can. (Such people are gonna be knocking on this door for awhile yet, and our leaders are currently promoting a sense of social justice which conveniently brings in more low-wage earning immigrants, giving them voting rights in exchange. This is causing alot of problems, some of which are admittedly insurmountable without resorting to a remedial dictatorial governance for all the society's citizens.) Instead, might we suggest a wiser leadership by the modern societies? Mightent the more advanced societies of Earth set examples for other civilizations by helping to raise the development of societies only where they are asked to help? This is would exemplify how the Plejaren progress their society sanctified by both individual and collective vibe. Social justice is one of the major themes which our Earth is grappling with, and will continue to be so for perhaps the next millennium. Don't deny our world the opportunity to develop great formulaes which address this equation. (IMHO) Life | ||
Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 629 Registered: 03-2007 |
Abdiel: “One planet must have only one intelligent race. If there are more than one intelligent race, future wars will break out and the possible destruction of the planet.<snip> To put different races to live together in one planet is to guarantee the destruction of that planet and the involution of those unfortunate races.” That’s just not what the facts bear out. Take a look and see what history tell us. There has been far more conflict and wars fought amongst nations of the same race than interracial, through myriad regional and civil wars. Lets’ start with the so-called Three World Wars. The First World War (Seven Years War of 1756-1763): a conflict beginning between European nations over dominance in North America, fought predominantly by Caucasians (white race) The Second World War (formerly WW1): a European conflict, fought predominantly by Caucasians (white race). The conflict spread to the Middle East when Britain and France encouraged the Arabs to rebel against the Turks so they could exploit the newly discovered oil reserves there (read T. E. Lawrence's, The seven Pillars of Wisdom). The Third World War (formerly WW2): a European conflict, fought predominantly by Caucasians (white race). The Japanese became allies with Germany only after a long and brutal war against China – fellow Asians (yellow race). And furthermore, more Americans died in the American Civil War, a war amongst itself, than from any other of its’ other wars. (See bar graph half way down this link). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_casualties_of_war Abdiel: “We are condemned to auto destruction. This is our destiny.’ No. We choose our destiny. We must take responsibility for our own evolution and survival. Yes, bad things happen along that way but that is where we learn problem solving. Abdiel: “Is against the natural laws that a planet have more than 1 intelligent race. Is a natural occurrence against the nature.” Wrong. It is natural for each planet to have several races evolve together, naturally. You can find this explained in several places within the Meier material. That’s just the way it is. Race is nothing more than genetic adaptation to its’ geological and natural environment. For example, the pigment of the skin over time adapts to the amount of exposure to the sun. Every naturally evolving planet capable of developing humanoids will typically also have enough geological and meteorological variation to explain why multiple races naturally evolve on them. You are free to have your own opinion, Abdiel, but ask yourself if you have not allowed racial rhetoric to influence your thinking. Or perhaps you feel like you have been wronged by someone and blame it on their race. No one is saying the Plejaren model is for us – clearly there are vast differences. And no one is being asked to surrender their individuality. But they do present a shining example of what can be achieved if everyone works together. And I remain confident that we will eventually get there. Regards Bob | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 189 Registered: 07-2006 |
The Plejaren "model" is the same as what ours should be as defined by Billy in his 14-Mar-2012 BEAM Portal Entry for THE Human Race (which includes every race of human on our, and any other, planet): Creational-natural Laws and RecommendationsCreational-natural Laws and Recommendations https://www.creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=bQpnl6wDxeQ%3d&tabid=313&portalid=0&mid=1911 This article completely voids the false statement"Is against the natural laws that a planet have more than 1 intelligent race. Is a natural occurrence against the nature." the comment "We are condemned to auto destruction. This is our destiny." is a totally inaccurate statement and should be corrected with: "I am"-instead of "We are" and "my" -instead "our" if this is how one truly feels but don't include the rest of us that have chosen to follow the Creational-natural Laws and Recommendations, our consciousness development has only begun but we are headed in the correct direction. The only ONE intelligent RACE is the Human Race, which includes ALL of us as equivalent humans coexisting with the same goal of consciousness development through learning and incorporating the creational-natural laws and recommendations into our everyday lives. This is what the Plejaren are learning and have been for a lot longer than we have. We are just getting started, those that choose to anyway. And we can learn a lot from them. The "Plejaren' are not from one planet they are a federation of many planets in many star system systems and also in two different universes. They are NOT ONE race of humans but many. The following Plejaren are documented due to their contacts with Billy and do not include the vast number of Plejaren that have not had contact with him but gives you an idea of the different homeworlds of Plejaren federation members. (only 10 of the great number of planets that are members of the Plejaren federation are included in this list from Contact 453 which also identifies only the spirit guides for Erra which all planets in the Plejaren federation have to aid them in their planet's human consciousness development. planet - system/universe (contact individuals) Timar - DAL Universe (Asket, Nera) Erra -Plejaren system (Sfath, Semjase Quetzal, Ptaah, Pleija, Rala, Isados, Elektra, Florena, Tauron, Zafenatpaneach, Enjana, Fetanika, Taneta, Tanissa, Gaudon, Queda, Inobea, Najdescha, Cladena-Aikarina, Susanka, Xeruala, Xeruel, Xauala) Spirit Guides from Erra - Plejaren system (Melchora, UrlanaJaspan) Askal - Plejaren system (Sudor) Luseta - Plejaren system (Nefratisa) Derron - Wega system (Menara, Solar) Sater - Lyra system (Alena) Njsan - Lyra system (Taljda, Samjang) Deneb - Cygnus system (Asina) Druan - Nol system (Sana, Ektol, Lumia, Ters, Zeltan) Bardan - Coma Galaxy (Sugam) ----------- Hope this helps clear up any misconceptions. Salome PatM | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2660 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Phil... Of course, if we speak of a Mirror being involved, it would be 'a piece of cake'. I would agree, it is not that high advanced with such Mirror. It is indeed done today, in such manner... I thought, you may be preferring to the Ray/Beam...being 'bent' in such manner. Without, any type of Mirror being utilized. Edward. | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2661 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Abdiel... Bob...summons it: as it is! I have nothing...to add... Edward. | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2662 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi PatM.... Concerning Bob's: "We are condemned to auto destruction. This is our destiny." I think Bob...is more referring to: the Genetically Manipulation(the Genetically Manipulated human refugees created by the Creator-overlords intermixing with Earth humans...) in MAN, of Earth, which does direct US...in that direction. 'WE' and 'OUR', s(/c)hould be utilized in (t)his context of speech, I would think. If, WE of Earth, did not have that Genetic Pool...Alteration, your statement would be wise. But, on Earth, today, it is the contrary, alas. Billy bringing the Spirit(ual) Teaching(s), anew, is also to 'remedy' this aspect of degeneration, which should help us all to some point; even, if it only helps just a 'tiny bit', Billy's goal is still achieved... OUR situation/circumstances are just not optimum to achieve greater heights, alas; but, WE are not that 'lost' as WE may think....WE are. Thanks to Billy. Edward. | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 350 Registered: 12-2009 |
Besides the two fine postings by Bob and PatM, remember somewhere in the notes it states that a natural evolving planet capable of developing humanoids will typically develop three different races for each planet. This must be a universal truth and space travelling races probably respect that fact because of all the various planets and universes they have visited. Consider contact 236 which states that the first human arrivals on this planet 22,000,000 years ago were the three red, white, and brown races and Billys recent answer to my question which indicates the Old Lyrian (Plejaren forefathers) visitors 389,000 years ago comprised three races: "You are referring to PP KB Block 6, page 261: The people who came to Earth (or rather were exiled/deported to our planet) 22 million years ago got extinct in the meantime. The three races of 389,000 years ago were different people." Also consider contact 532 which indicates that the three different races of ET's that are stationed here and observe us form a unity (no contacts) have a common origin. OM mentions three races in a few places as well. The Earth has more then three naturally developed races mainly due to the influx of various races that migrated and emigrated here in ancient history, but that doesn't have to be a source of conflict, only if we choose it to be. Just because the sketched Plejaren contactors for Billy are all appear to be white doesn't mean they are a single race. As large as the Plejaren federation is and as far reaching as it is (billions of light years) they are a varied peoples and many differences some of them in the federation do not resemble us at all, and others seep acid out of their pores (one of them touched a car @ the Center and left a hand imprint) naturally as a result of their home planets environmental condition, others are different colors, yet there is unity amongst them. The difference between us and them is they typically do not intermix interracially to preserve their genetics, which is logical if you think about it. Because of overpopulation and other factors such as religion, unpeace, war, consciousness degradation, etc we are already in for a difficult time in our future, the many different Earth races are going to have to learn some form of unity and solidarity to survive the various impending catastrophes. I know this much though, in the intro to GOT it plainly states it will take us 800 years to form a planetary language, so unity could be slow going for us on the other hand... Salome Corey OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom. | ||
Stephen_moore Member Post Number: 347 Registered: 01-2009 |
The Plejaren are not racist. High possibility other planets which sustain human life which have mixed skin colours are not racist. The earth human is racist. www.ufofacts.me.uk - www.thecircleforhumanity.net | ||
Skyrim Member Post Number: 68 Registered: 06-2012 |
"I thought, you may be preferring to the Ray/Beam...being 'bent' in such manner. Without, any type of Mirror being utilized." Yes, that's what I meant. They may have the technology to change the angle of the lazer beam, in effect being able to shoot that Ray Gun around corners. phil | ||
Blake_p Member Post Number: 76 Registered: 07-2012 |
If i remember correctly, Billy once said that everything in the universe can be broken down by the numbers 3,7,and 12. Which may have some relevance to there being three different races in those instances about planets and so forth,like there are 7 prophets,7 material belts and so forth or it could just be a coincidence,i guess,not sure. Besides, life always favors diversity through evolution over time. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 761 Registered: 07-2005 |
Hi All http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yNoUTPRbl0 David Sereda has made a very remarkable documentary which oozes Billy's information and corroborates many. At around 2:15:00ish you can hear the sound of the earth among others but what piqued my interest was how uncannily similar the sound of earth was to Semjase's beamship sound. This was amazing as now that I think about it there had to have been a reason why Semjase swirled her beamship to make this particular sound. I mean talk about coincidence this revelation may just end up more meaningful than I could imagine. What can accurately duplicate the sound of earth in its frequencies and tonalities other than a very highly evolved technology and birds and not the fake ones you get from made on earth synthesizers. David Sereda must be going out of his way to corroborate what he has learnt from Billy's information with his scientific knowhow and good on this guy for being a closet BEAM supporter. Matt Lee | ||
Ilovebilly Member Post Number: 310 Registered: 04-2011 |
G'day Newinitiation and sounds like a whale too? re: Semjase's beamship sound she was doing what we call in oz a burnout handbrake on while reving the engine hard eh eh ilovebilly Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 764 Registered: 07-2005 |
Hi Ilovebilly ha ha Matt Lee | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 708 Registered: 07-2009 |
I had a very short notice interview on C2C, which starts around 12:20 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKbq-V4Fm9c#at=753 | ||
Lemontree Member Post Number: 70 Registered: 08-2012 |
From Billy I understand you can go back in time and change things since he did it in France. You're not just an observer. And the changes effect this same universe (not a parallel or whatever) However I think it's impossible to go back in time and kill yourself else you can't be alive to do it. Only someone else can kill you. So is there a Creation law to prevent you killing yourself and if so can someone describe how it works? |
