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Ramirez
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Post Number: 824
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 12:05 pm: | 
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Hi Blake_p,
"The dwarf race in Andromeda has already moved into last evolution stage,half spirit/half material bodies,"
I think the small ones are still occupying physical bodies .... those are the ones who visited SSSC to clean up the cellar.
Their race is in the final physical evolutionary stages so would be a close equivalent to the Sonaer from Dal universe.
They live on one of Andromeda's planets but also that same place is one of the "plug in" or contact points where the High Council can be reached for actual face to face meetings.
Who knows how it works .... maybe the small ones open a curtain behind the black door and there they are ..... that would be a great question for Billy .... what are the actual surroundings like when meeting the High Council ?
Cheers.
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Patm
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Post Number: 200
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 12:04 pm: |
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Savio,
Excerpt from Talmud Jmmanuel (2011 version) Chapter 1, page 15, Billy's explanation point #3:
with my unauthorised/unapproved translation which may contain errors:
From my understanding (which could be flawed): In the following excerpt it explains there were two Semjasas; one Semjasa's spirit-form was of the Nokodemion lineage and who's personality fathered Adam. The second Semjasa (ringleader) was the cousin of the first. This second Semjasa's (ringleader's) spirit-form is also the spirit-form of the current personality Quetzal.
The family tree of Jmmanuel is only important to that extent as from the fact perceptibly that already from the beginning his family tree-line leads back to an extraterrestrial origin, and certainly in the way that the extraterrestrial generation father of Adam, thus Semjasa, was a former personality of Jmmanuel. After Semjasa's dying occurred several reincarnations of his spirit-form, naturally also were classified different personalities. And that personality the cousin of the ringleader Semjasa, the previous Semjasa conceived Adam was then Jmmanuel which by the guardian angel/heavenly son Gabriel was conceived, in his current reincarnation of spirit-form as new personality Quetzal is resident of the Plejaren-System and the degrees of a JHWH, therefore has achieved Jschwisch.
Der Stammbaum Jmmanuels ist nur insoweit wichtig, als daraus erkenntlich ist, dass bereits der Anfang seiner Stammbaum-Linie auf einen ausserirdischen Ursprung zurückführt, und zwar in der Weise, dass der ausserirdische Zeugungsvater Adams, also Semjasa, eine frühere Persönlichkeit des Jmmanuel war. Nach Semjasas Ableben erfolgten mehrere Wiedergeburten seiner Geistform, der natürlich auch verschiedene Persönlichkeiten eingeordnet waren. Und die Persönlichkeit des Vetters des Rädelsführers Semjasa, des früheren Semjasa, der Adam zeugte, war nun Jmmanuel, der durch den Wächterengel/ Himmelssohn Gabriel gezeugt war, der in seiner heutigen Wiedergeburt der Geistform als neue Persönlichkeit Quetzal im Plejaren-System ansässig ist und den Grad eines JHWH, also eines Jschwischs, erreicht hat.
This is one of the many sources for the Lineage-Genealogy drawing. Any and all corrections are welcome as I would prefer the drawing and my understanding be correct (I do make mistakes and would like to learn from them) .
Thanks & Salome
PatM |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 654
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 01:40 pm: |
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> Ramirez, those were from a different race. |
Ferbon
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Post Number: 233
Registered: 05-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 02:41 pm: |
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Do we know what are the duties of a ringleader?
How different are they from that of a spirit leader?
Salome |
Orphelia
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Post Number: 71
Registered: 08-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 11:43 pm: |
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Hi everyone,
And WOW, so much to read up on everything that's written in regards to my questions. Thanks to patm for your lovely little family/chart history, that was really interesting reading it.
Thanks also to everyone who replied.. I have another question I'd like to ask if that's ok?
Before I found out about Billy and his contact notes we used to believe in Angels. I'm Orphodox here. So now that we know the Plajaren aren't Angels, I'd like to ask a question anyways.
So based on what we know, that Quetzel used to be Gabriel, I'm wondering if we were to put an Angel name to Semjase, Ptaah, Sfath, Asket, and all the others etc. Who would they have been in the past?
Micheal, Raphael, Uriel?
Don't be afraid to let your inner strength guide you. Live it, but don't fear it, love it, but don't lose it. Take care of it, and always keep it next to you. - Orphelia . *smiles*
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Savio
Senior Member
Post Number: 722
Registered: 07-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 08:41 pm: |
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Hi Patm
Thanks for the information on TJ 2011
According to the text, Adam’s father Semjasa was a ringleader where his cousin was not.
This agrees with the information within the 9th Contact and 49 Questions (Q30)
9th Contact
145. Semjasa, the highest leader of the sub-leaders, mated with an EVA, a female being, who was still mostly human-like and also rather beautiful (in feature and form).
146. The descendent of this act was of male sex and a human being of good form.
147. Semjasa called him "ADAM", which was a word meaning "Earth human being".
Hence, it seems Adam’s father Semjasa should have the title of “ringleader”.
On the other hand, A Demigod is not an JHWH, it is Elo-JHWH.
Salome
Savio |
Bronzedesk
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Post Number: 92
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2013 - 07:34 am: |
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Dealing with soul fragments has always been sticky wicket!
The idea of soul versus ego or even current or prior personalities have always had a hard translation threshold!
"Creation doesn't give us what we want! We give creation what it ultimately needs! And anyone who never has made a mistake in his whole entire life has never ever tried to do anything new."
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Matthew
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Post Number: 59
Registered: 03-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 11:20 am: |
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Salome,
Ancient Sumerian Gods depicted protecting a palm tree on the walls of Inshushinak's Temple in Susa, Iran in the 12th century BC. To me, that palm tree looks suspiciously like the Plejaren peace symbol.
In Contact 70, line 131, Semjase describes the Sumerians as being peace loving & risen from a race of former Sirian refugees, who had likewise settled on the Earth 133,000 years ago, as did the refugees from the Plejaren-System. Did the ancient Sumerians know about the peace symbol from Nokodemion & so carved this proudly into their temple walls or did they receive impulses? It would explain Ptaah's interest in the Sumerians.
Matt
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Blake_p
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Post Number: 100
Registered: 07-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2013 - 04:07 pm: |
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Matthew;
Nice find, looks pretty close and very plausible explanation. |
Spiritualtim
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 03-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, March 17, 2013 - 08:12 am: |
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I have a question regarding Asket. I heard she in real life she has darker hair and golden skin and she was white/asian looking. If so how come the blond asket picture was passed off as the real asket by billy himself and even ptaah even said she is a double to Michelle Dellafave. Or was that Tara Leigh? |
Edward
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Post Number: 2696
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 12:26 am: |
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Hi Matt....
Very perceptive of you!
I would think they could perhaps have been familiar with the Peace symbol
[and Spirit(ual) Teaching(s)], as is incorporated into their artwork. Very
astonishing, yes.
Would give Ptaah, reason...WHY. He, could have even had contact with them in
those times? And, just reminiscing?
Edward. |
Matthew
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Post Number: 59
Registered: 03-2011
| | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 02:13 pm: |
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Hi Edward,
Thanks for the compliment . I am also wondering if Ptaah was involved with the Sumerians in a previous incarnation but I came to the conclusion that if Ptaah was involved, he probably would not need to study the period - just look into his reincarnational memory bank.
I feel I need to credit the references I used to 'Join the dots' as it were. I was reading 'Man made God' by Barbara Walker. In that book there is a photo with the palm tree with two figures, of which, the red-framed photo of the palm in my photo collage (above) is an enlarged section. It struck me that it looked like the peace symbol & then I read the text under that photo, "Sumerian Goddess Ninhursag with the spirit of the forests next to the seven spiked cosmic tree of life"... and bingo!. I have failed to find this '...cosmic tree of life' description again in relation to the wall relief anywhere on the web so it is fortuitous that I read that book knowing the peace symbol from Billy!
In other descriptions, the palm tree is protected by two Sumerian figures, The Goddess Ninhursag and a Bull-Man (a God?) perhaps representing Sumerian knowledge of genetic human-animal hybrid experiments in the past?
"Sumerian Goddess Ninhursag with the spirit of the forests next to the seven spiked cosmic tree of life" - 'Man made God', Barbara Walker, page 84.
Matt |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 617
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2013 - 07:19 am: |
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Hi Matthew
The Sumerian didn't know about the teachings of the Spiritual Creational Teachings so how would they have known the peace symbols then?
regards
Matt Lee |
Mahigitam
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Post Number: 544
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2013 - 10:54 pm: |
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Hello Spiritualtim, If you dont get any responses here, you can contact me at mahigitam@gmail.com for answers to your questions. I often use gmail.
If you can find a path with no obstacles, it probably doesn't lead anywhere - Frank A. Clark
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Matthew
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Post Number: 59
Registered: 03-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, March 21, 2013 - 04:51 am: |
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Hi Matt,
How do you know the Sumerians didn't know about the spiritual teachings? There is really no evidence to say either way unless you can provide it?
We do know that the spiritual teachings are millions of years old as is the peace symbol which was originally described by Nokodemion & I would imagine every prophet since, so the odds are that they probably knew some of the teachings, even if in a distorted form.
Matthew |
Blake_p
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Post Number: 102
Registered: 07-2012
| | Posted on Thursday, March 21, 2013 - 07:34 pm: |
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The Sumerians didn't have to know the spirit teaching to understand what a symbol might mean, it could have been taught,it could have been passed down and been slightly altered like many other symbols in ancient times since they were ancestors of a line of Sirians etc. Plus there were many more extraterrestrials on Earth in antiquity then of the recent past. |
Markcampbell
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Post Number: 824
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, March 21, 2013 - 07:41 pm: |
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Ptaah had mentioned to Billy that one of his ancestors was the Egyptian god , Ptaah . |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 621
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 21, 2013 - 08:58 pm: |
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Hi Matthew
I don't know for 100% certain that the Sumerians didn't know about the Creational spiritual teachings and I agree with you to certain extent Matthew that in all likely case they would have known about the teachings since they were very peace loving people as the contact notes details.
cheers
matt |
Verlanis
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Post Number: 43
Registered: 10-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 09:41 pm: |
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Investigating the Photographs of Asket and Nera as shown by FIGU as Photo #110 & 111-
I have taken a road of investigation that is somewhat like beating a dead horse but is still worth a look. As a private venture of personal investigation, I have been studying the photos of the Asket & Nera mystery using the Youtube and internet evidence available to shed some light on this subject. There was posted on youtube the most probable footage for where the pictures of the two women most likely sprang from.
A simple matter of freeze framing and comparing the known photographs showed a surprising finding that the pictures did not match the video footage exactly. The head angles, lip positions and body placements did not have an exact match to the photos. This is noteworthy because the pictures should line up exactly during some portion of the segment, but that was found not to be the case. Indeed, they are similar but similarity is not exactitude which made this investigation incredibly more intriguing.
The photograph known as #109 is the only obvious doctored picture within those 3, but reveals it's own mysteries as well. Who was the girl that was pasted over Dean Martin's head? Just an example.
Video analyzed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6edQVowYLA
Sorry if I misplaced this post under the wrong topic.
Blessed be those who watch and those who turn the key.
I will contribute in the way I can. My goal is to help in all areas that I can. I will think, and I will develope. Truth is to be discovered and explored. --
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Sauroman11
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Post Number: 42
Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Friday, June 28, 2013 - 01:53 pm: |
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Hello, I wonder what mostly personality type are Plejarens - extraverts or introverts? People today are becoming more extraverted due to changes in value systems. What do they about this? |
Lemontree
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Post Number: 65
Registered: 08-2012
| | Posted on Thursday, August 15, 2013 - 01:42 am: |
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Did Jmmanuel bring any benefit to mankind or his creation by Plejos was just a mistake?
As soon as he was born he could see the future were his teachings will be falsified and endless other bad stuff (all because of him).
Or maybe bad things had to happen either way for people to learn from them?
It's very odd to me.. |
Marbar
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Post Number: 250
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2013 - 06:40 pm: |
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About the WCUFO, who actually flys it: Ptaah or Quetzal? |
Sauroman11
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Post Number: 44
Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2013 - 09:26 am: |
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Someone from FIGU please answer. |
