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Learningtruth
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Post Number: 12
Registered: 10-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2014 - 09:58 pm: | 
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Hi Vincent,
All I know is I read something like any inequality of men and women on Erra is balanced out through reincarnation of the opposite sex in future lifetimes. This I think was referring to the multiple wives men have but may apply to your quote about their personal building which no wife may enter.
Anyway I love that Michael Horn said Billy said talking with the Plejaren is like being with a real human being. Or something like that. I bet they'd not anxious or afraid or judging others worth etc. like is so common here! Like the positive neutral thinking must be so natural to them! |
Vincent
Member
Post Number: 60
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 01:40 pm: |
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Hi Learningtruth,
I forgot men on Erra can have multiple wives and this is probably what it relates too. Thanks! |
Votan
Member
Post Number: 165
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 01:57 pm: |
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Hunray
I asked that question before and the answer was he will reveal.
joe
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Ramirez
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Post Number: 990
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 04:44 pm: |
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Hi Vincent,
The building wives are barred from entering might be an ET version of a backyard garden shed where Mr ET has his relaxa pad containing a small plantation of pot plants, collection of "artistic" videos and magazines, computer games, bar fridge, comfy couch and all up a great place to have some quiet time alone or with his buddies where it's guaranteed to be a no nagging or snooping allowed enviroment.
Not sure about all this however it sounds harmlessly logical irrespective of how advanced and developed a civilization might be.
It's human nature to occasionally want to get away from .... most things and most likely the females have a similar though not formally defined sort of girls only setup where they are able to get together away from the males.
Who knows maybe the females have an exclusive sewing or reading room. Without having visited there or being reliably informed about the details it's just speculation but again going by what's presently well known about human nature tangible benefits derived from having access to privacy are well known ..... for both genders.
Cheers.
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Redbeard
Member
Post Number: 270
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 06:47 pm: |
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Sounds like the Earth equivalent to a "Man Cave" ! |
Matt
Member
Post Number: 424
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2014 - 02:15 am: |
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Billy: Thanks. --- Do you know anything about a person called Jani King? I have received a fax recently stating that this woman in Australia's North Queensland has written at least two books about . . .
Ptaah: . . . purported contacts with me. Of course, her information is as much a foolish fantasy and nonsense (WV) as the untenable claims by Penny McLean, Barbara Hand Clow, Barbara Marciniak, Amorah Quan Yin, and the others who make obscure and stupid (WV) assertions about their having contacts with me.....
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Bulletin_008
The great all knowing Ptaah channeled through Jani King now does personal sessions with Ptaah by telephone on weekdays at a cost of $150 per session. For that, you get to speak with an extraterrestrial and ask him any questions you like. A bargain! 
"This is a great gift to give yourself. Imagine being immersed in the space of unconditional love that is the beautiful energy of P'taah.
Sessions are based on your questions for P'taah and can last up to an hour. During that time you can ask P'taah anything you want and you are welcome to tape your session. When you have finished asking questions, P'taah will say good-bye and hang up the phone."
http://www.ptaah.com/personals.html |
Matt
Member
Post Number: 425
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2014 - 02:33 am: |
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Forward to 6.40 minute mark to see/hear Ptaah come through Jani King to enlighten and speak wisdom to a large group of people. From the documentary film "P'taah - Divinity in Humanity."
I couldn't stop laughing!
P'taah - Divinity in Humanity vol.1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6RXP-CbakM |
Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 20
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2014 - 07:03 pm: |
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Yes, she is pretty far out there. Let’s put aside her fêted so called fact that she actually talked to Ptaah, for a moment. She is almost convincing if we didn’t know better.
At first, it appeared that she was maybe a pawn through someone else’s gestures or thought projections; hypnosis or the like. After watching her body language; this is very doubtful?
This person looks down to the left before a story caption or just after telling a sentence or two; she appears to be making up a lie and or fabricating an untruth, just based on her body language she knows she is lying. The sad truth is that some will believe and follow her. $150.00 a secession, incredible!
This person is obviously deceitfully delusional; this is exactly why the Plejaren have indicated that most Earthlings are not ready for direct contact.
Kenneth |
Ramirez
Member
Post Number: 991
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2014 - 05:04 am: |
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P'taah - Divinity in Humanity vol.1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6RXP-CbakM
More like Bovinity in Humanity provided courtesy of Jani King shameless fraud not to mention rather poor actress.
Welcome dear ones ..... where's the German accent ?
Velkommen leiber ..... zatz ze vey Ptaah speaks.
I think she might have picked up the routine watching Bashar and Ramtha plus a few other of the better known trance trippers with deep growling voices who greet their audience as dear ones.
This rather poor example of what passes for a human got BS in tall glowing neon splattered all over itself but ask yourself how much further from reality is that stuff compared to what you might hear in a temple Sunday morning ?
Cheers.
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Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 402
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2014 - 06:00 am: |
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Maybe we could all get a group reading by P'Taah. Does he have a group rate?
Life
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Matt
Member
Post Number: 426
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2014 - 04:07 pm: |
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Hi Kenneth,
Yes, she is pretty far out and she is also pretty convincing to the gullible.
In that Ptaah documentary at the 1.50 minute mark, she talks about her first contact with this (imaginary) Ptaah when she was 4 years old. She says that was when he first visited her and took her aboard his craft, told her various things about why she was chosen and her mission, he took her for trips aboard his space craft for hours on end and brought her back at the same time she left so her mother didn't know she was away at all. The same sort of things that happened to Billy, only hers was imaginary/lies. She obviously knows the Meier story/case.
I don't know who made that documentary but it seems like it was ok made and had some money spent on it.
Jani King also appears on many shows if one searches on YouTube. Her 2 Ptaah books were good sellers too. The sad thing is that in some ways she is more well known to people in the UFO community and New Age spiritual circles then Billy. |
Matt
Member
Post Number: 427
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2014 - 04:23 pm: |
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"Welcome dear ones ..... where's the German accent ?"
Hi Ramirez,
Jani King regularly states that her Ptaah is "great and all knowing" and that he can also read peoples minds. His greater then the real Ptaah because the real one is not all knowing. Funny thing is that in the FAQS section of her Ptaah.com website it says-
Can P'taah communicate in many languages?
Jani usually either works with English-speaking audiences or uses a translator. When P'taah was asked why he doesn't speak in other languages, he responded, "One phenomenon at a time, beloved."
http://www.ptaah.com/faq.html#73988
To be able to speak one language is a "phenomenon" for the great all knowing Ptaah! That make sense?? |
Blake_p
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Post Number: 184
Registered: 07-2012
| | Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2014 - 07:31 am: |
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I wonder if Ptaah has a cubical next to "Cleo the psychic", Call me now,( in Jamaican voice)lol.
I gotta nice visual of Ptaah wearing a headset,working the phones, good stuff. |
Thomas57
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Post Number: 132
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2014 - 11:16 am: |
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For those who think, there are instances where we ought to blindly follow the Plejaren, and that they have a "higher" (as in a sense of entitlement or advancement, or "better-off", more important, etc!) frame of reference or evolution . . .
perhaps reading of CR466 would enlighten everyone as to just how interactions between humans(Billy) and off-worlders(Plejaren)
when it comes to 'honesty' and how to respond to others who take things for personal use, and then return them in less-than-original condition.
The ways we(most Earth humans) tend to interact with each other seem very backwards indeed!
How often do we seek to understand, BEFORE pouncing upon(I AM guilty of this!) those not-as-enlightened in particular areas as we have attained?
T57 |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 21
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2014 - 11:40 am: |
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Matt,
Yes, she appears to be well funded which develops into a tool to muddy the waters so to speak by having the affect of discrediting the actual events between Billy and Ptaah. The gullible will follow her; the more intelligent and logical populace will see through this charade, only to associate this with the actual events; thereby steering folks away from the truth.
This is something like a subliminal attack on Mr. Meier’s creditability. Many truth seekers have been turned away by the contradiction or embellishment of untruths with other assorted websites that appear next to Billy’s. A couple of friends come to mind, only to be derailed by these untruthful websites. |
Matt
Member
Post Number: 430
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2014 - 05:05 pm: |
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Kenneth,
Yes, I agree with all that too! It's sad that happens.
Btw, I meant to say this before-
The sad thing is that in some ways she is more well known AND ACCEPTED by people in UFO communities and New Age spiritual circles then Billy. |
Votan
Member
Post Number: 167
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2014 - 10:32 pm: |
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Kenneth
That is not the case everybody has the right to voice their opinion. Sometime people react adversely.
On the other hand the gullible will fellow anybody. It pays to think and question.
joe
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Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 1038
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2014 - 04:24 am: |
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I wonder how effective the Plejaren's hive mind is? |
Corey
Member
Post Number: 570
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2014 - 10:36 pm: |
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From the FIGU pamphlet "those who lie about contacts" in which groups of Americans were falsely translating FIGU books and selling the translations for large sums of money and falsely claiming to have contacts with the Plejaren...
excerpt from 232 contact Nov 17 1989: "Ptaah: Therefore, we have refrained from contacts with Americans, and will do so forever, unless it should happen that this nation and its government and secret government change their ways completely and begin to live, think, feel and act according to the laws of Creation and commandments of Creation. Yet, such a prospect can only be expected in the most distant future, we know, that such a change cannot occur until nearly 140 years from now." (*A)
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So my government won't change it's ways for 140 years from 1989 (the year 2129), that's a long wait. Sure Obama helps, but the government, the secret government, and war-hungry populace who has a habit of electing inferiority complexed, cult religious, God-deluded criminals and scumbags into positions of power are still in control and people like me, who honestly seek the truth about Creation and it's laws and recommendations are still small in number to bring about any real change until the year 2129 when the US government turns to the laws and recommendations of Creation... this forum and Billy's books are my only outlet to the truth, especially since it is my duty to see all the deaf, dumb, and blind people who surround me, as equals, with equivalency for all lifeforms.
My country may not even still be a world superpower by then, even China may have come and may be gone from superpowerdom by then who knows, 140 years (from 1989) is still a long way off, but it is a relief that in the year 2129, after so much damage, my government will finally change it's ways. Such a change may come after the hard knocks of losing large amounts of populations to a world war three, losing superpower status and allies, plus impending climate disaster due to overpopulation such as desertification (US is a large exporter of grain and may lose that ability in the future) and earthquakes/rising sea levels/temperatures. Billy said in the Q & A that upcoming disaster in the US will be partly natural and partly man-made and the people affected will not know a difference... It must be going to take my country so long to know it is bound to the laws of cause and effect and that is an unchangeable truth, and any future changes will have to come from rising from the ashes of the guilt of violating the laws and recommendations of Creation in the most severe of ways.
Salome
Corey
(*A) = page 2 of FIGU pamphlet "Those who lie about contacts, cheats and deceivers in matters pertaining to the Pleiadians, Ashtar Sheran, Ptaah, Semjase, Quetzal and all their collaborators, Jmmanuel, and the Arahat Athersata and Petale levels - and questions about Mohammed." copywritten by FIGU Wassermannzeit-Verlag 1991/1993
OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Vincent
Member
Post Number: 72
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2014 - 07:22 pm: |
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Hi Corey,
I recall Billy said something about Russia doing something good for world peace one day, but he didn't say when. My guess is that it may probably be before the U.S. starts to change it's tune in the year 2129. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1043
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2014 - 09:05 pm: |
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Yeah Corey it's sickening isn't that we aren't able to as yet bring the masses together in the spirit of oneness and in likemindedness to strike the sword of knowledge in forceful forcelessness against these rabid dogs bringing chao and destruction upon humanity with their forceful might, power greed and profit lust.
The masses are so divided and their intention and will so scattered in the winds of confusion so much so that there is no way right now that we can bring them together with higher purposes to bring much needed justice and punishment against these Dark Order types who are doing most of the damage around the world.
Only when the masses are personally, directly and quite detrimentally effected will they then start to wake up as this human psychological aspect is so hardened like concrete so much so that there is no other way that they will learn.
I mean I am not perfect either but what I am saying is how stupid can stupidity of the stupid masses does it have to not get for me to not repeat this ad nauseously in exasperation wanting to wake them up so that we can start to make a better world for ourselves or am I the idiot here who is expecting something which will never happen in my lifetime.
If it wasn't for the fact that 'a man is not an island onto himself' we coulda, woulda, shoulda, needa and may have wouldn't have been words that were so irritating to the ears of conscience as things would have definitely been done but still we are relegated to the long arduous process of 'just get your own houses in order and hopefully through that self correction, rectification and development it may influence others in a positive manner'
The fact is we don't have the luxury of time as things have been forced to degenerate so much with the helping hand of mass's stupidity and the nefarious perfidy of the rulers of this earth that unless we action our intention in a dramatic fashion there will be no progress not contingent upon the dreaded hard lessons of war and catastrophes.
What will it take really |
Votan
Member
Post Number: 172
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Friday, May 09, 2014 - 01:43 am: |
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Hi Vincent
I find it hard to believe Russia doing any good.
They are after world domination.
They come from a race to dominate.
joe
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Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 1047
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, May 09, 2014 - 02:25 pm: |
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Votan Russia is doing good inadvertently
They are keeping the mad dog US secret government in check by being the counter-force.
Of course it's all out of self interest but the outcome is not nearly as bad as I would imagine without them.
We are now living in a multipolar world and that's preferable to a unipolar hegemony. |
