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Joe
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Post Number: 322
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2014 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Excerpt from Contact Report 452

Billy: Good, then, I have this article here, that you necessarily should read. It is from B. in..., whereby I don't want to give his name officially, in fact for security-reasons for him. You know, there in Arabia, where he lives, it could become very dangerous for him, if somebody found out that he is the originator of the discovery and the writer of the article, because the whole thing could create enormous disorder in the Islamic world.

Ptaah: 25. You make me surprised, therefore I will immediately read the article.

26. Thanks

(Ptaah reads, whereat his facial expression changes in astonishment.

annotation Billy: B. speaks both Arabian and English and also German)

27. That really is very interesting, because it should be encountered only in about three years.

28. I did not know either that it would be B.

29. But since he has now found out the facts, it is also urgently necessary that his discovered knowledge is spread as fast as possible worldwide.

30. As you know, finding the truth regarding this point in time, means that this must be spread fast.

Billy: That B. has discovered it, I myself can only explain in such a way, that the mission has already further thrived in its consequences, as we assumed until now, whereby the corresponding divine providence emerged.

Ptaah: 31. That must be so, because otherwise the whole thing can not be explained.

32. If the right point in time were not reached, then he would not have found the truth.

33. This only would have to have been the case in little more than three years in accordance with our knowledge.

End of excerpt.

Source: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_452

Does anyone know what both Billy and Ptaah are referring to? The divine providence?
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Jose_barreto_silva
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Post Number: 17
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Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2014 - 05:57 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Votan,

Have you, along your entire life, ever heard or have read anything about a person whose name is "Billy Meier"??

Votan,

Buch OM 32:1979. “Um die Wahrheit zu begraben, dazu gibt es nicht genug Schaufeln.”
...und jene, die versuchen, schliesslich ihre eigenen Gräber graben...

- Billy Meier Der wahrliche Prophet der Neuzeit.


Book OM 32:1979. “There are no shovels enough to bury the Truth.”
”… and those who try, eventually just end up digging their own graves.”
-
True Prophet of the New Times Billy Meier

“ALL TRUTH PASSES THROUGH THREE STAGES.
FIRST, IT IS RIDICULED.
SECOND, IT IS VIOLENTLY OPPOSED. THIRD, IT IS ACCEPTED AS BEING SELF-EVIDENT.”
- ARTHUR SCHOPENHAUER



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Buch OM 32:1979. “Um die Wahrheit zu begraben, dazu gibt es nicht genug Schaufeln.”
...und jene, die versuchen, schliesslich ihre eigenen Gräber graben...
- Billy Meier Der wahrliche Prophet der Neuzeit
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Patm
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Post Number: 277
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Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2014 - 04:30 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In Block 11 of the Pleiadian-Plejaren Contact Reports pages 208 - 210 is the original article in English written by B. a. M., Arabia.

He talks about the original sayings of the Prophet Mohammed and the reference to the future coming "Mahdi/Mehdi" or 'The Guided/Directed One'.

This 'one' will be of the same lineage as the Prophet Mohammed and would also be known as Mohammed Abdullah, the same Muslim name 'Billy' was given June 26, 1967 in Karachi, West Pakistan. (A photocopy of this certificate is also included in the article).

Hope this helps,

Salome
PatM
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Jose_barreto_silva
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Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2014 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joe,

You've asked above, your post on Thursday, October 02, 2014 - 12:49 pm:

"Does anyone know what both Billy and Ptaah are referring to? The divine providence?"

Please read my explanation below.

The original text reads exactly like this:

Billy
Dass B. darauf gestossen ist, kann ich mir nur so erklären, dass die Mission in ihren Auswirkungen bereits weiter gediehen ist, als wir bisher angenommen haben, wodurch sich die entsprechende Fügung ergeben hat.


The word in original German language is "Fügung" and it does not mean "divine providence" no way.

The translation of this word "Fügung" from the Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte, Gespräche, Block 11)
Page number 214 is wrong.

In German language the word Fügung means:

Fügung [f] -, -en = Bestimmung) chance, stroke of fate; eine glückliche Fügung a stroke of good fortune, a happy chance, coincidence.

This explanation above is the correct and true meaning of the word Fügung which the translator of the texts found at the futureofmankind website has translated it wrongly.

The word "Fügung" in German language means only this: Walten des Schicksals,schicksalhaftes Geschehen, Verknüpfung von Ereignissen.

This word "Fügung" HAS NOTHING DO TO with "divine providence", which is a complete delusional word used by die Gläubige irregeführt Gottgläubigen und Götzengläubigen.


This Translator: Charles Page, Masterton, New Zealand TRANSLATED THE word Fügung WRONGLY.

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_452

It is better to make contact with James Moore and inform him regarding this serious mistake of translation, because Herrn Billy Meier would never use such wrong words like this "divine providence" used only by misguided persons who are completely unaware about the true teaching of the truth, teaching of the spirit, teaching of the life in none of his texts and dialogues.
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Buch OM 32:1979. “Um die Wahrheit zu begraben, dazu gibt es nicht genug Schaufeln.”
...und jene, die versuchen, schliesslich ihre eigenen Gräber graben...

- Billy Meier Der wahrliche Prophet der Neuzeit
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Eddieamartin
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Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2014 - 05:57 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Could it simply be another way of saying; "Good fortune"?
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Patm
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Post Number: 278
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Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2014 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The term Fügung = causal foreordination
https://figu.org/dict/node/12591

Salome
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Corey
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Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2014 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The FIGU dictionary lists Fügung to be translated to English as "casual foreordination" as a pretty recent addition (09/04/2014). It should have never been translated as divine providence.

https://figu.org/dict/node/12592
Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche
Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124
Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216
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Joe
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Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Friday, October 03, 2014 - 01:16 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Patm and Jose_barreto_silva, thank you both for your replies.
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Earthling
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Posted on Friday, October 03, 2014 - 02:21 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Fügung is translated as "foreordination" in the Goblet of the Truth.

Foreordination is determined through cause & effect, therefore is set in motion through the human beings might of their thoughts as described in the book of the same name - "The root and the fruits of all human phenomena are one's own consciousness and its thoughts, the might of which translates everything into reality"
http://beam2eng.blogspot.com/

Bruce
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Jose_barreto_silva
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Posted on Friday, October 03, 2014 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you Patm and Corey,

The term Fügung = causal foreordination is even more correct and better explained then, exactly as it translated in the Goblet of the Truth. Thank you very much Patm and Corey. I only looked to the meaning of the word Fügung in one of my dictionaries.

The term Fügung really has absolutely nothing to do with a delusional and non-existent "divine providence", which is a term used only by those who bow down and pray before their invented and non-being divinity and gods,saints, deities and tin gods gods of all kinds to whom they pay homage instead of being in the knowledge about the real and true Creational Truth.

Billy Meier would never use such an erroneous Vaticanish dogmatic christite delusional terminology "divine providence".
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Buch OM 32:1979. “Um die Wahrheit zu begraben, dazu gibt es nicht genug Schaufeln.”
...und jene, die versuchen, schliesslich ihre eigenen Gräber graben...

- Billy Meier Der wahrliche Prophet der Neuzeit
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Redbeard
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Post Number: 271
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Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2014 - 05:17 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"it could become very dangerous for him, if somebody found out that he is the originator of the discovery and the writer of the article."

What article is referred to! Is it obtainable and what are the circumstances of it's publishing....?
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Ramirez
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Posted on Monday, October 06, 2014 - 06:41 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Speaking of Mohammed Abdullah and one of his former personalities this mention in Luke 8.9 - 8.10 is interesting.

Luke 8.9: And his disciples asked him , saying . "What might this parable be ?"

Luke 8.10: And he said, "Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God, but to others in parables: that seeing they might not see and hearing they might not understand.

If the contents of the 26,000+ pages is understood from the perspective that those contain the information referred to as the mysteries (some at least) of the kingdom of the sky powers then ...... it's hidden in plain sight but only to those who abandon their restrictive religious interpretations.

By doing so they will indeed discover the mysteries ..... well, those published so far.
Cheers.
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Vincent
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Post Number: 162
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Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi,

Anyone know if the German contact notes mention what type of anti gravity propulsion technology our secret military craft use? I found an interesting short clip that may explain why our ufo craft have lights in the sky.


Evidence of military antigravity technology

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qljY-YfFaPc
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Vincent
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Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In Contact Report 544 it talks about the many crimes of banks such as printing money out of thin air.

A few days ago on November 16 the G20 (meeting here in Australia) brought in a new law to change banking as we know it. We no longer own our money we deposit in a bank. Another crime I think.


WARNING Bank Deposits Will Soon No Longer Be Considered Money But Paper Investments

"On Nov. 16, the G20 will implement a new policy that makes bank deposits on par with paper investments, subjecting account holders to declines that one might experience from holding a stock or other security when the next financial banking crisis occurs. Additionally, all member nations of the G20 will immediately submit and pass legislation that will fulfill this program, creating a new paradigm where banks no longer recognize your deposits as money, but as liabilities and securitized capital owned and controlled by the bank or institution."

http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2014/11/warning-bank-deposits-will-soon-no.html?m=1


So effectively from November the banking system as we know it ceased to exist. The age old concept of a bank being a place to safely store savings ends.

They lie that the system is sound and that the name "Savings account" is really a lie is being acknowledged openly.
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Azaka
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Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2014 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nothing new unfortunately, didn't this already happen in Cyprus? But anyway my guess would be that the Banks are just getting more frightened about the upcoming global economy hardships or possibly a meltdown as Billy said, and are taking measures to save themself. This will also play nicely along with decreasing amount of paper money in circulation, all money getting digital -> more money for banks to control.
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Vincent
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Posted on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 12:44 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If the banks are doing this to prepare for the coming financial meltdown it maybe best for people to withdraw moneys stored in banks and buy "physical" Gold and Silver and bury it or something. In past financial meltdowns people always ran to precious metals for safety which raised PM's price. Just about everything else goes down in price.

This is interesting -

Contact Report 251

"People from Earth will continue to be caught up with their thoughts of using money in the near and more distant future; and many hundreds of years will be marked by its use, although two attempts to completely eliminate money will be initiated. These endeavors are doomed, however, because Man simply does not wish to detach himself in the near future from money and wealth. For this reason, all related efforts will be undermined because gold, silver, platinum, palladium, and other valuable, still undiscovered metals, precious stones, jewelry and other items sold illicitly, which will ultimately lead to the collapse of the attempts to abolish money."

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_251
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 09:17 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Vincent,

Thank you for your articles ( re antigravity technology and savings in banks).

There is a good documentary explaining why greediness prevents many a scientist’s research.
It mentions Tesla’s ideas of harmony with nature, his research of free energy, his idea that all machinery in our world should be driven by free, cosmic energy (free electricity to all our world).
Telsa’s ideas conflicted with the financial interests of J. P. Morgan.
JPM rejected Tesla’s ideas because he could not put “a meter on T’s free energy devices” (JPM wanted to make money - he knew that his many fin. interests (esp. in mining) would all come to an end if he would help Tesla)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTjYHnpJjEE

There are many more to mention like Galileo or e.g. Henry Moray:
"Energy can be obtained by oscillatory means in harmony with the vibrations of the universe ."…... (the Moray Radiant Energy Device is a high-speed electron oscillating device)

Last not least: Billy’s many truths and the many attempts to kill him.
Because his discussions re. religions and global issues (overpopulation etc.) stirred up the masses and disturbed political, religious and economical leaders..

Why is it that not much has changed since Socrates was punished for promoting the idea to question traditions some 2500 years ago?

Because humanity’s mind is polluted by untruth.
By the thought that mankind is put on earth to subdue and dominate.
(“Fill the earth and subdue it..” – Genesis 1:28)
So is the mind, and so is environment.
The toxic gray shroud in major cities and earth’s overpopulation are testimonies to it.

The world we witness is a reflection of our mind.
And our mind is a reflection of our highest ideal.
“For the Lord your God is a consuming fire, a jealous God” (Deuteronomy 4:23-24)

-
“Change the self image and you change the personality and the behaviour.”
Maxwell Maltz

Humanity needs to educate a new self image.
A self that is not “jealously seeking superiority”
But lives in oneness with his highest ideal.
Is part of the universal consciousness.

This self image should be educated in our world.
The behaviour that unites mankind will then follow like a shadow.

Salome,

Bill
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Vincent
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Posted on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Tat_tvam_asi,

Thanks, that was a good video on Tesla!

I think it is strange how Billy regards Tesla as an average scientist.

I like how you regularly quote from Plato and Socrates! I like learning about them!
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Vincent
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Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2014 - 02:49 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

While we are on the topic of banking and the likely coming financial meltdown, here is something to consider and which has gone under the radar.

Something is surely brewing in the banking industry. In the past year there has been 48 top level bankers dying under suspicious circumstances. This page shows the list of dead banker names, their position they held and how they (suspiciously) died. Very alarming I think.



48 suspicious banking deaths

"Our advice is if JP Morgan offers you a job: politley decline. The list of top level bankers dying under suspicious circumstances has been growing rapidly in recent months.

Whether these are genuine deaths or something more sinister one thing is for certain, banking is becoming one of the most dangerous industries to be involved in right now with an extremely high death per employee ratio.

The causes of death given for some of the bankers seems quite odd to say the least including one banker shooting himself 8 times with a nail gun and another being crushed to death by their own SUV.

With the global financial system heading towards a major crash in the near future are these people buckling under the pressure of what they see coming or are they being silenced because of what they know?

We can only assume it’s a little of both.

Here’s the list of top level bankers who have died recently:"


http://www.hangthebankers.com/48-suspicious-banking-deaths/
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Vincent
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Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2014 - 03:02 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The latest top level banker to die suspiciously is not on that list. It happened four days ago. They are dying on a weekly basis.


Citigroup Banker Found Dead With Throat Slit

"Shawn D. Miller, the managing director of environmental and social risk management for Citigroup, was found dead in his apartment on Tuesday around 3 p.m.

Miller, who resided in an upscale downtown apartment in New York City near Ground Zero, was discovered in his bathtub by a doorman who worked in the building. The Citigroup banker was found with his throat slashed.

No knife or weapon was recovered at the scene which prompted NYPD to rule out the possibility of suicide."


http://theantimedia.org/citigroup-banker-found-dead-with-throat-slit/
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Ilovebilly
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Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2014 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Re: or are they being silenced because of what they know?

No I think it's repurcutions from the last melt down
Many of the affected where organised crime figures or people who know how to seek revenge for losses

The banksters live in society
Society gets revenge

Not that I agree with revenge
Just saying it how I see it

Banksters rip of clients
Some clients eventually see nothing is done about it
But they can figure out howto seek revenge

I think killing someone is never the answer as they are born again without learning not to do same

They are just children again, your doing them a favour ATM

Salome
Ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Vincent
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Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2014 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ilovebilly, I don't think it was a case of "society gets revenge" for things that happened in the past financial meltdown. I think the give away that it is NOT society paying them back is - 49 (top level banker) deaths, NO arrests and little to none media coverage.
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Vincent
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Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2014 - 11:20 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ilovebilly, look what just happened in the latest banker death where the police first reported it as murder.

A day later... oops, it was suicide!


Citigroup Executive Probably Killed Himself, Police Say

"Shawn D. Miller, a Citigroup Inc. (C) executive who helped create an international standard for responsible lending, died from what police now suspect was a self-inflicted wound.

Miller, 42, global head of environmental and social risk management for New York-based Citigroup, was found at his home at 120 Greenwich Street in lower Manhattan on Nov. 18 with neck and wrist lacerations, the New York City Police Department said. He was pronounced dead at the scene.

The building's doorman had gone to the apartment to check on Miller after his boyfriend was unable to reach him, police said. While a determination of the cause of death is pending toxicology reports, investigators suspect that Miller, who was found in his bathtub, killed himself, Detective Martin Speechley, a police spokesman, said today in a phone interview.

A weapon was found in the apartment, Speechley said. He said he couldn't confirm a report in the New York Daily News, citing unidentified people, that a knife was found under Miller's body after it was moved.

Miller may have committed suicide after a bout of alcohol and drug use with a stranger he met through the classified-advertising website Backpage.com, the Daily News reported, citing the people. Police found evidence of the use of alcohol and drugs, including crystal methamphetamine, the newspaper said."


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-11-19/citigroup-s-risk-management-executive-shawn-miller-found-dead.html



Let me see if I can pick out the common story elements when someone is suicided:

(a) A police spokesman quickly appears to state a conclusion completely opposite to that of the detectives who were originally on the scene. Check.
(b) A means suddenly appears. Check. The NYPD overlooked a knife which fortunately appeared later.
(c) Maintain plausible deniability. Check. The police spokesman/detective can't "confirm" the new reports.
(d) Unidentified sources cited. Check.
(e) The victim was under the influence of drugs. Check. Meth "evidence" was found at the scene.
(f) Hint that the victim was involved in certain debased activities. Check. The doorman checked the apartment after the victim's boyfriend couldn't reach him, and speculation of a bout of alcohol and drug use with an anonymous stranger met online.

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