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Stefan_z2
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Post Number: 45
Registered: 12-2014
| | Posted on Saturday, September 12, 2015 - 09:22 am: | 
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Hi Fellows,
On sugar and sweeteners you want to read the CR 223 (starting after para 42) from 1988 that is available in English…
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_223
And here comes some bad news about brown sugar. You get it in CR 447 from 2007, with the following remarks by Ptaah:
Brauner Zucker oder Süssstoffe sollten vermieden werden, denn diese sind gesundheitlich bezogen sehr viel bedenklicher als weisser Zucker. Brauner Zucker und Süssstoffe haben auch die Eigenschaft, dass sie eine Stressanfälligkeit auslösen können, wobei Stress wiederum eine Schrumpfung des Gehirns hervorruft, deren weitere Folge Angstzustände sind, die schnell chronisch werden, wodurch sich ergibt, dass die Psyche geschädigt wird und auch Depressionen letztendliche Folgen sind. Das soll nun aber nicht bedeuten, dass weisser Zucker speziell gesund sein soll, denn dieser ist dauernd in grösseren Mengen genossen ebenfalls gesundheitsschädlich und führt zur Fettleibigkeit.
Brown sugar or sweeteners should be avoided, because their negative health impact is much greater than white sugar. Brown sugar and sweeteners have further on the capability to cause a susceptibility to stress, with stress in turn evoking a shrinkage of the brain, which adds anxiety as additional result that might easily become chronic, leading to damage of the psyche and ultimately depressions as consequences. That does not mean that white sugar would be especially healthy, because it is also unhealthy and leading to obesity when steadily enjoyed in larger quantities.
Salome,
Stefan |
Andrew_hua
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Post Number: 44
Registered: 12-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, September 12, 2015 - 12:13 pm: |
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What you say about the conversion of sugar into citric acid seems incorrect to me. I've certainly never noticed a change from a sweet taste to a sour one, even when taking sugar straight on the tongue, where it is mixed with the liquid called saliva.
Perhaps you should brush up on your chemistry, Votan.
Be reminded that citric acid is found naturally in citrus fruits such as orange and grapefruit, which are healthy for you. |
Votan
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Post Number: 424
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, September 12, 2015 - 02:04 pm: |
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Andrew_hua
My apologies you are right.Sugar mixed with any liquid does become acidic and cause tooth decay and liver damage. It also upsets the insulin level.
Everything in moderation is fine.If you consume all this pre-packed foods you will certainly increase your daily sugar and salt level.
joe
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Hugo
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Post Number: 77
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Saturday, September 12, 2015 - 08:49 pm: |
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Thanks Stefan_z2,
I been using brown sugar thinking it was more healthy when now I know it is not. And come to think of it, the last 6 months I been using it, I have notice myself being in more stress.
The CR didn't mention raw sugar. I wonder if that is better then white sugar? |
Andrew_hua
Member
Post Number: 45
Registered: 12-2013
| | Posted on Monday, September 14, 2015 - 02:36 pm: |
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Thanks, Stefan, for the reference. My assumption about brown sugar shows that my brain has become somewhat clean from washing.
Quetzal states in CR 223, that:
"There are completely natural and healthy sweeteners of plants, berries, fruits, and vegetables, which are safe for diabetics, but it must be ensured that they actually are harmless because some herbal sweeteners are also more or less harmful to health and the general well-being as well as to the immune system."
But he makes no specific revelations, so it would seem we are encouraged to do our own homework about which natural sweeteners are fine for consumption.
Then again, Ptaah has advised against consuming brown sugar and sweeteners in general.
I feel like I know more and less at the same time. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1470
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 15, 2015 - 01:23 am: |
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Andrew don't consume artificial sweetners.
Aspartame is bad period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Andrew_hua
Member
Post Number: 46
Registered: 12-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 15, 2015 - 10:45 pm: |
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Haha, don't worry, Matt - I have paid attention to the warnings regarding aspartame.
I only have a soft spot for some sugar with coffee. |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 1472
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2015 - 02:49 pm: |
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Oh wow you have got to be the first person I've ever come across where the emphasis on sugar came before the coffee much like a person who was so enthralled by his cart that he forgot about the horse.
;-) |
Markcampbell
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Post Number: 928
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, September 20, 2015 - 06:46 pm: |
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There are new sweeteners from natural sources . Monk Fruit , Stevia , Agave , Erthyritol among others . |
Votan
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Post Number: 437
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, September 20, 2015 - 11:43 pm: |
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Markcampbell
Apparently one health food store owner got rid of Stevia because it sits in your stomach and hard to digest. Who knows the truth.
joe
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Andrew_hua
Member
Post Number: 47
Registered: 12-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2015 - 09:09 pm: |
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> Matt, a better analogy would be a cake with icing. The cake is nice, but the icing is... well, the icing on the cake, so to speak !
> Mark C, looking through the archives, I noticed that you enquired about Stevia and its suitability as a substitute for sugar, but it seems there was no response or clarification upon this. Have you come across more information, especially in light of what Votan suggests about its indigestibility?
Meanwhile, it has been said that fruits should not be mixed with meat, however, tomato, botanically speaking, is a fruit, as well as pumpkin, zucchini, eggplant, etc.
What is Meier referring to specifically when it comes to the fruits that should not be mixed with meat at a meal? |
Jaygun
New member
Post Number: 4
Registered: 11-2012
| | Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2015 - 10:29 pm: |
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Hi Everybody, i am asking a question about black magic. In my country people use black magic to make other people sick or even die. Black magic is performed in cemeteries. My question is if ghosts or spirits does not exist,what type of energy is being used to perform black magic. |
Patm
Member
Post Number: 326
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Friday, September 25, 2015 - 07:57 am: |
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From contact 223:
Billy:
Aha. And what about saccharin, which was widely used during World War II as a sugar substitute? And what about the sweeteners that are used nowadays, like also the cyclamate, or whatever that stuff is called? Can I use this to reduce my increased weight – and even take such sweeteners instead of sugar?
Quetzal:
43. You should avoid that because sweeteners of various natural and chemical kinds, especially in the form of cyclamate, are partially very detrimental to health and usually cause exactly the opposite, namely that they promote weight gain through increased appetite.
44. Moreover, they are extremely unhealthy, as I already said.
45. The body actually takes in many different sweetening substances, and particularly cyclamate, and thereby damages, as I said, one’s well-being of health and one’s immune system, and indeed, especially in those people whose intestinal functions are such that they even convert the sweetener in the form of cyclamate into cyclohexylamine.
46. A poison that, in greater quantities, leads to high blood pressure and, thus, can become life-threatening.
47. And in fact, many people also die from it, without the physicians being able to recognize the actual reason for the cause of death – due to the lack of knowledge of the harmfulness of cyclamate.
48. Furthermore, cyclamate also causes damage to the sperm cells as well as to the testicles of men, by what means impotence can arise.
49. Even in women, damage can occur through sweeteners, and especially through cyclamate, through which infertility results.
50. Moreover, sweeteners of the form cyclamate can produce a carcinogenic effect in men and women as well as in animals.
Billy:
And what, then, should those people do, who suffer from diabetes, who can no longer eat anything sweet, if that is so?
Quetzal:
51. There are completely natural and healthy sweeteners of plants, berries, fruits, and vegetables, which are safe for diabetics, but it must be ensured that they actually are harmless because some herbal sweeteners are also more or less harmful to health and the general well-being as well as to the immune system.
Salome
PatM |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 660
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Friday, September 25, 2015 - 09:13 am: |
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Andrew_hua
I remember Ptaah explaining not to mix fruits and meat for very young children because it interferes with their developing taste buds. It's ok to eat meat with fruit.
Jaygun,
Nothing 'magical' about black magic. There are several logical explanations. People with these deeply rooted beliefs can harm themselves simply because they think someone has put a spell on them. They find out someone put a spell and they harm themselves. It can also be pure coincidence that they became ill or died for natural or viral reasons.
Swinging waves can also be sensed and the person believes that it is a spell and their deep belief causes them to harm themselves.
It is all in the thinking of the person. The mind is very powerful and the thinking can harm or heal the psyche and the body.
Salome,
Eddie |
Votan
Member
Post Number: 443
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Friday, September 25, 2015 - 02:29 pm: |
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Jaygun
I am not sure but it could be a belief of self harm.
The aborigines in Australia use a bone pointing or singing to death system.
Have you looked it up in search engine.
joe
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Rebirth
New member
Post Number: 2
Registered: 09-2015
| | Posted on Friday, September 25, 2015 - 03:39 pm: |
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Jaygun,
There's no such thing as "black magic". |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1123
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Friday, September 25, 2015 - 07:35 pm: |
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> I think there is more info advising against mixing fruit and meat in the spiritual teaching. It's also very much regarded as very bad food combining in most nutritional information. |
Votan
Member
Post Number: 444
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Friday, September 25, 2015 - 07:43 pm: |
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Eddiamartin
How strange that people dismissed Jose Silva and yet we were not brainwashed when we actually used healing techniques.
Also we can actually do harm to people with our brains that scientists cannot comprehend.
We were taught not to do damage to any human being .There are many things that I have done that all the sceptics do not believe.
It is like Billy, you either believe by what he says or you do not. The choice is yours.
Also there are 3 things that you must have Desire, Belief and Expectancy . If you truly have all these fully you can achieve anything in life.
joe
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Piyali
Member
Post Number: 127
Registered: 08-2012
| | Posted on Friday, September 25, 2015 - 08:19 pm: |
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Salome friends, here is a link, in which information seems to be well researched. I take pure stevia, a little with tea and coffee and have been having stevia for a few years now and I have none of the side effects mentioned and no digestive issue...everybodys body is different...well here it is:
http://regevelya.com/stevia-sweetener/
Salome
Piyali
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Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 388
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Friday, September 25, 2015 - 11:15 pm: |
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Eddie Fruit needs certain enzymes to be digested properly and also needs to pass through the system faster than meat
Andrew I think if it has seeds it's a fruit so would need to pass through system fast, pumpkin would need to be digested fast as it would rot quickly
Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 661
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2015 - 09:24 am: |
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The allegory from the prophets and the Jshwjsh is for a template if you will, that is based on wisdom which is derived from the Laws of Formation.
I will quote a few excerpts; I would encourage reading the full texts.
Goblet of the Truth chapter 2 verses 224-226
224) Eat of everything that serves you as food on Earth, fruits, vegetables and meat .....because nothing is banned (forbidden), rather everything is allowed to you that tastes good to you and is not poisonous....
225) And all those amongst you who are knowing in real truth, eat of all good things that are given to you through the laws of formation....
226) You shall only be prohibited from nourishing yourselves with things that have themselves perished and are rotten and therefore are inedible; ......but always in a tolerable and healthy quantity without gorging or gluttony .....therefore the measure shall not be exceeded in any things and obedience shall be practised in all things so that all nourishment serves the bodily good and health.
Billy: "It is not the question but the answer that leads to the evolution of the consciousness."
Never the less, careful consideration (analysis) must be given to the question because the question causes the effect (answer) and the answer is always limited to the limits of the question put forth to the Prophet or the Jshwjsh.
Salome,
Eddie |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 662
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2015 - 09:36 am: |
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Votan,
I would never want to ever cause any vexation with or towards the Spiritual Teaching.
I would like to encourage you to really ponder and search-through (fathom) your thoughts and seek more clarity regarding the creative laws of the existence and see what they reveal to you in truthfulness and eventually attaining truliness ...for only through the obtainment of the truliness can the powers of the consciousness be activated and used for the benefit of oneself and others.
Salome my friend,
Eddie |
Davidmg
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Post Number: 193
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2015 - 07:56 am: |
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Eddieamartin;
And this can also be said that this is where the falsification by religions stands.
"Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
Many religious believers fail to see that it is through consciousness development that we will evolve, NOT through a Deity, God, Priest and so on.
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Exerpt from Billy's portal portal.
Posted Sept 23 2015
My very rough translation
1) Der vorausschauende Mensch plant sein Heute, Morgen, Übermorgen und seine Zukunft.
1) The foresighted man plans today, morning, day after tomorrow and the future.
Davidmg
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