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    Votan Member Post Number: 282 Registered: 12-2011 |
Hi Scott The attachment video did not come thru , please re-send. I just tried it and it worked fine? You can also go to the Canadian FIGU Website and find the video under Multi-Media. (Message edited by scott on February 18, 2015) joe | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 287 Registered: 07-2006 |
from what I have experienced: If you are getting email notices for new forum entries, the email notice drops the actual links within the forum entry emailed version. You have to go to the web forum page to see the active link in the original forum entry.(just click on the link at the bottom of the email notice to go directly back to the web forum entry.) -PatM | ||
Davidmg Member Post Number: 165 Registered: 03-2008 |
Voltan: If you are reading it from with-in an e-mail program it will not show that it is a link. This blog program sends email in text mode. Unless two things happen. 1. At the bottom of each email from the FIGU Blog program there is "Use this link to go directly to the discussion:" Use that link to goto the FIGU Topic page and see the link there. 2. OR when a poster/blogger has a link they want others to follow and to have an email program recognize it as a link then, it must be formatted with "http://www." } Here is a good example of what will happen. Goto FIGU here Goto FIGU http://www.figu.org/ Davidmg | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 283 Registered: 12-2011 |
Hi Patm and Davidmg Thank you for that. That is what I did to find out that the attachment or video was not there. joe | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2520 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi Michael, and other forum members. Upon discussion with Christian and the other Forum Moderators the photo comparisons topic has been terminated. People who are eager to discuss this topic may do so in other forums. Billy never falsified photos, so there's no need to follow such useless discussions any longer. What is written in this link is still valid. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_486 Thank you | ||
Str0323 Member Post Number: 31 Registered: 02-2012 |
Hello Everyone. I just wanted to say thank you to Scott and all the forum moderators for their dedication to the truth. Salome, Scott Reed. | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 1095 Registered: 06-2008 |
Speaking about speaking about the mission on Saturday 2nd May 2015 Vivienne Legg will host a presentation about the Meier case including details and information from a newly translated book. Sydney Mechanics School Of Arts 280 Pitt Street Sydney starting 2.30pm. The formal meeting will run for two hours followed by an informal get together including supplied light food such as salads, cold meats, cheeses, cracker biscuits, tea, coffee sort of things. Here is a link to the event description: http://au.figu.org/talk.html Cheers. | ||
Matthew Member Post Number: 122 Registered: 03-2011 |
Billy's "Red Meteor" warning shows up in 1994! 1981 Meier reports that he meets with an ET named Quetzal in Contact Report 150. Billy discusses the "rote Meteor" (Red Meteor) with Quetzal. (1) [Note: Meteors are asteroids (rocks without comas/tails) and comets (rocks with comas/tails) that burn within the Earth's atmosphere; extending 483 kilometres from the Earth's surface. That's about one hundred times closer than current 2015 scientific estimates for Apophis's pass. ] 1991-1994 '...und sie fliegen doch!' is published in several different language versions and printings, including a Polish version from 1994 which you can view online (2) where it states that the Red Meteor will make a hole in the surface stretching from the Baltic to the Black Sea. (3) 1997 The 'Torino Scale' is created to predict hazard levels (O - 10) of near-Earth objects and has five colour codes; from white, level 0, "NO HAZARD" near-Earth objects, to, red, level 10, "CERTAIN COLLISIONS" meteors. A "red Meteor", as described by Meier in 1991, would be a Torino level 9, "CERTAIN COLLISIONS", code red, object. (4)(5) 2001 Guido Moosbrugger's, '...und sie fliegen doch!', 1991 book is translated into English in, 'And Yet...They Fly'. When translated, the "rote Meteor" is changed to proper noun capitonym, "the Red Meteor", gaining the status of a national adjective. The warnings about "land between the Baltic Sea and the Black Sea" being devastated by the meteor appear on page 265. (6) 2004 Kitt Peak Observatory discover Apophis (99942) on Dec. 21st. Arecibo Observatory researchers say that there is 2.2% - 2.7% chance of Apophis hitting Earth. Torino level 2 to 4. Size estimates drop from 450 to 390 metres, (7) to "the size of two football fields", or, 210-330 metre diameters. Torino drops to level 1, "NORMAL", code green. (8). No "Red Meteor" associated with Apophis. Apophis will fly by Earth on 13th April 2029 and reappear in 2036. 2005 NASA's Infrared Telescope Facility in Hawaii estimates the size of Apophis as 350 metres in diameter. Torino drops to level 0, "NO HAZARD", code white. (7) 2006 1-in-45,000 chance of Apophis hitting Earth in 2036. Torino Scale 0, "NO HAZARD", code white, asteroid. (7) 2008-2009 Contact Report 471 establishes that Apophis is the Red Meteor by the date. The Red Meteor "prophecy" becomes a prediction meaning it will definitely happen. Billy says, "...the Red Meteor... is not a prophecy, but a prediction and, therefore, a cosmic event. If I remember correctly... the great danger by the meteor would threaten Earth on the 13th April, 2029, while at the same time he also named a date for the year 2036." Ptaah "And what to say about Quetzal's prediction regarding the meteor; I can only confirm his information." (9) 2009-2011 NASA: Apophis is 330-350 metres in size. (Hawaii's Institute for Astronomy). The Arecibo Observatory recalculate the chance of Apophis hitting Earth in 2036 as dropping from 1-in-45,000 to 1-in-250,000. Apophis estimated to pass 18,300 miles away from Earth in 2029. Apophis is a Torino Scale 0, "NO HAZARD", code white, object. (7) 2013 NASA: Goldstone single-pixel observations of Apophis rule out potential of 2036 Earth impact; Torino Scale 0, "NO HAZARD", code white. The Herschel Space Observatory observations increased the diameter estimate by 20% from 270 to 325 meters, which translates into a 75% increase in the estimates of the asteroid's volume or mass (7) which is closer to Ptaah's 350 metres as stated in CR 475, part 2, published online before 2013. (10) 2014 China, France & US estimate that Apophis is due to pass within 35,000 kilometres of Earth (21,748 miles) away from Earth in 2029. (The moon is about 363,000 km away from Earth). No collision is expected. US scientists research Japanese data of observations in 2005 of another asteroid similar in size and calculate that Apophis "is likely" to experience "minor landslides" as it passes the Earth. Apophis could be a "...mass of rocks of varying sizes clinging together" and "some of the rocks would be moved by Earth's gravitational pull", whereby, "a thin layer of the surface would be removed". (11) In 2036, Apophis is expected to get no closer than 36 million miles (57 million kilometers) away. (12). The "Icarus" Journal, vol. 242, publishes an article about how tidal effects are likely to cause small avalanches on the surface of Apophis which bring it closer to Earth than estimated. (13) 2015 NASA states there is NO HAZARD associated with Apophis. Size is about 330 metres in diameter. NASA collaborate with the ESA on the AIDA mission to impact a low-threat asteroid Didymos (800 metres in diameter) in 2022 and throw it off course with a probe travelling at 13,000 miles per hour. (12)(14) Summary The prediction is explicit: Apophis will create "a new continent, due to an enormous crack of the Earth, from the North Sea to the Black Sea, from which will spew forth red hot lava" on, either, the 13th April 2029, or, 2036 - if nothing is done against it. (5) Quetzal: Saturday, the 10th of October 1981, 3:15 AM: "Earth humanity should listen to your words and warnings, but that especially they do not do." (1) ------------------------------------------------------------------ Sources: (1) http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_report_150 (2) https://www.myflare.com/0/io/hotlink/S7wEjhi_EeOH-xICOQ75wQ/GUIDO%20MOOSBRUGGER%20-%20UFO%20Z%20PLEJAD.pdf (3)'UFO Z PLEJAD' Guido Moosbrugger AGENCJA NOLPRESS, Białystok 1994, ISBN 83-85212-11-6 (4) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torino_scale#/media/File:Torino_scale.svg (5) http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1749-6632.1997.tb48366.x/full (6) 'And Yet... They Fly' by Guido Moosbrugger Publisher: Steelmark; 1 edition (Sept. 2001). Language: English ISBN-10: 0971152306 ISBN-13: 978-0971152304 (7) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99942_Apophis (8) http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/apophis/ (9) http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_471 (10) http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_475 (11) http://phys.org/news/2014-10-asteroid-apophis-landslides-earth.html#jCp (12) http://www.vox.com/2015/4/3/8340123/asteroid-impact-mission (13) http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0019103514004126 (14) http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space_Engineering_Technology/ESA_s_planetary_defence_test_set_for_2020 Matthew} | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 830 Registered: 12-2009 |
Matthew, That was an awesome, and very well-researched, and well-presented post!  Salome Corey Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 223 Registered: 04-2011 |
Thank you, Matthew, well done! Salome, Bill | ||
Matthew Member Post Number: 123 Registered: 03-2011 |
Red Meteor update.... There have been many updates since my last post. The earliest known publication date for Contact Report 150, part 7, about the "rote Meteor" (English: Red Meteor), is in Guido Moosbrugger's 1991 German book, "...und sie fleigen doch!". This book describes the red Meteor as splitting the earth's crust "from today's Baltic to the Black sea", and this description also appeared in subsequent translations, for example, in the following books; 1991 German - 'Und Sie Fleigen Doch' - "...von der Ostsee bis zum Schwarzen Meer", 1993 Czech - 'A prece létají' - "...dnešního Baltu až po Cerné more", 1994 Polish - 'UFO Z PLEJAD' - "...siegajaca od Baltyku po Morze Czarne", 2004 English - 'And Still They Fly' - "...from today's Baltic Sea to the Black Sea". Later revisions of Contact Report 150, part 7, in the 2004, "Plejadisch-plejarische Kontaktberichte Block 4", state that the earth's crust will be split from the "North Sea to the Black Sea. I emailed Christian Frehner to clarify why the Baltic Sea became the North Sea in later publications and here is his response; "Hi Matthew, The new PP Blocks were corrected by Ptaah and Billy based on the Plejaren's recordings of the discussions because they (the P's) noticed that there were errors in the earlier contact reports due to the huge speed of the transmissions. Especially the tiny difference between the spirit-symbols of millions, milliards and billions was not easy to grasp for Billy, and quite a number of mistakes were published in the earlier versions (and, consequently, in the books as well, as e.g. in Guido Moosbrugger's first edition of "... und sie fliegen doch!"). And if the Red Meteor should crash down on Earth, it will devastate... from the North Sea to the Black Sea. Salome, Christian" Summary Quetzal: “Earth humanity should listen to your words and warnings, but that especially they do not do.” ~ http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_report_150 In CR 150, Billy and Quetzal state, as facts, that "humanity" will, not only, learn the identity of red meteor in the future (or what is the point of the warning?), but, they will receive further "words and warnings" (plural). One "red meteor" warning from this 1981 conversation would not constitute adequate warning that "humanity" "should" or could do anything about - even if they ultimately decide to "do not do" anything. So far, all the predictions, both, implied and stated, in that 1981 contact report, have come true! Meier had an impossibly small window of time for scientists to identify a suitable NEO from 1981, that will pass close enough to Earth to be recognised as any kind of threat. Again, the identification of a suitable NEO would have to come before Meier's death. After then, Billy would not be able to confirm any findings from astronomers, or, put flesh on the bones of Quetzal's original warning so that it makes sense and becomes a set of "warnings" that mankind can "listen to". Also, this NEO would have to be passing earth before the time that we are able to defend against all NEOs with future space technologies, say, in the year 2050 (according to timeframes of current NEO space projects). Therefore, in 1981, Meier's window for this prediction to come true was 1981 - circa 2050. In 1991, the earliest known publication date, no known NEOs were expected to come close to Earth. Even though Apophis was spotted 13 years later and was initially a high-risk threat, no NEOs since are expected to threaten earth before 2050. Everything Billy and Quetzal discussed in 1981 about the "future" time - where mankind knows about this meteor and can do something about it - has been proven to be true. Why, then, doubt Billy's accuracy about the remainder of that prediction if impossible odds were involved? Meier's warning has been explicit and consistent since 1981 whilst astronomers have disagreed about the size of the object, even following Ptaah's estimate of 350 metres in CR 475. Scientists have also been unable to agree how close Apophis will pass to the Earth and the changing calculations continue whilst the Plejaren have said the same thing since 1981. Matthew | ||
Zzz Member Post Number: 5 Registered: 10-2014 |
MH, Toronto is too far for me. When are you coming back to Vancouver? | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2554 Registered: 12-1999 |
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Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1064 Registered: 07-2009 |
Beep…beep. | ||
Darcy_carlile Member Post Number: 11 Registered: 08-2010 |
Hi Michael Horn, were you interested in doing a presentation in Alberta Canada or maybe a visit if not. Airfare in August 2015 is believed to plummet in ticket prices by 80%. It could cost maybe only $200 to travel here. Julia and Sheila and Maria and I are discussing it. | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 987 Registered: 12-2009 |
Hello all, It is my pleasure to offer these glowing statement of the paperback "Nyxe" by fellow forum poster Jedaiah Ramnarine, (I obtained mine from Amazon). I'm not advertising here for JR, but just putting the word out, that a science-fiction novel exists, that has roots, and concepts, of the spiritual teaching, to other students of the forums. This book, has made it to some of Amazon's best-selling lists, without JR having to downgrade the content of the book, to suit the masses. There are many parallels between the spiritual teaching, offered by Billy & FIGU, and the elements of this science-fiction novel. I was really impressed by JR's ability to relay important concepts such as logic, cause and effect, rebirth & the law of becoming and passing, the danger of power-hungriness & the negativity of religion & war, self-defense (and the downfall of former Earth civilizations that were way too quick to go on the "offensive"), unity of polar opposites (equalisedness), turning negatives into positives & learning from your mistakes, gaining, and utilizing knowledge and wisdom, as well as love, peace, freedom, and harmony, etc, it was a real treat to read! I have been studying the spiritual teaching for some time now, and I can tell you JR has also been studying, which is very obvious to the reader of this sci-fi novel, and I got to say it took a lot of courage to write about consciousness-related concepts that Billy teaches, so boldly, and to put it out to the masses. This book even mentions Billy Meier by name, as an old philosopher (this book takes place into the future, over 400 years after WWIII/IV ended). It took a lot of balls, and JR has earned my respect as an author. Salome Corey Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Piyali Member Post Number: 130 Registered: 08-2012 |
Thank you for sharing with us Corey. I have found it on Amazon, but it is for Kindle. Are hard copies available anywhere? It sounds like a novel, I would love to read. Salome Piyali | ||
Piyali Member Post Number: 131 Registered: 08-2012 |
I found it in paperback on Amazon! No worries. Thank you again Corey. Have ordered the book. Salome.Salome Piyali | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 111 Registered: 04-2015 |
Well done Jedaiah! | ||
Markcampbell Member Post Number: 930 Registered: 10-2008 |
It looks like a good creative work by Jedaiah influenced by the Geisteslehre . | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 988 Registered: 12-2009 |
Piyali, Yeah, the paperback is the way to go! I'm sure you will enjoy it, as I did! I was halfway through the book before I knew it! It was hard to put down, the way he writes, you just want to keep reading. Salome.Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 711 Registered: 06-2009 |
Recently I visited New Delhi and so the Qutub Minar complex and Asoka Ashram as well (to meet one person). To the North and West of the mission lies Mehrauli Archaeological Park, a derelict area littered with historical artifacts and tombs belonging to pre-Mughal, and up to British Indian era. Only now Government is trying to clean and maintain the area, and have put some demarcations etc. Beyond the Archaeological park, still further to the north, lies the Qutub complex, which host the famous and tall Qutub Minar and Alauddin’s tomb and Asoka’s Iron pillar as well. Below map illustrate the position of Asoka mission with respect to these areas.  Exploring the topography of the area I realized and confirmed that the tower that is seen in Billy's photo from 1964 is nothing but the famous Qutub Minar. The angle from which Billy shot, brought both Qutub Minar and the tomb of Quli Khan into the frame. This tomb of Quli Khan, also known as Metcalfe's Dilkush, is located in the Archaeological Park beside Asoka Ashram. Find below a comparison of Billy's photo from 1964 with that of a freely available wikimedia picture of the tomb and the Minar.  This picture can be found at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehrauli_Archaeological_Park#/media/File:Ruins_of_Sir_Thomas_Metcalfe%27s_Dilkusha_with_Qutub_Minar_in_the_background_02.jpg I wanted to locate myself the exact place where from Meier shot this pictures, and take another picture from same place, but I was out of time. I could however venture to the edge of the Ashram and make an educated guess.  "Learn things today that others wouldn't learn today so that tomorrow you can learn things that others can't learn." - Somebody |
