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Cpl
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Post Number: 724
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Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2014 - 08:26 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have entered the correct translation/s of Patm and Earthling citing the sources in the comments section at future of mankind at the end of the CR 452. See: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_452.

Hope it is still up there. It's my first attempt to post a comment on FoM.
Chris

Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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Ilovebilly
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Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2014 - 08:41 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

G'day Vincent

Maybe you are right, maybe we are both right and
Maybe it's also suicide like you say

The internet is abuz with many theories and we can't know for sure (as we where not there) what the truth is
I defiantly would not expect lame stream media to tell the truth though,especially about banksters

It's interesting there is 49 as 49 is THE important number

Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Vincent
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Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2014 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Ilovebilly,

I doubt it was suicide.

I think it's very suspicious how the police somehow missed the knife underneath him that he supposedly used to cut his own throat with. It mysteriously showed up next day. Also, since when do people commit suicide by cutting their own throats open?

Maybe one day the P's will say something about all these mysterious banker deaths in the Contact Reports.
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Joe
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Post Number: 354
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Monday, May 04, 2015 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Britain may be forced to ration the internet, expert warns, as web use could consume 100% of nation's power supply by 2035

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/britain-may-be-forced-to-ration-the-internet-expert-warns-as-web-use-could-consume-100-of-nations-power-supply-by-2035-10222638.html

Internet 'rationing' needed as UK cannot keep up with demand

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/11580307/Internet-rationing-needed-as-UK-cannot-keep-up-with-demand.html

I could be wrong but I think I did read it somewhere in the contact notes about internet usage putting a strain on the electrical grid or something of the sort. I would appreciate it if anyone of you can try and find that contact note where it is mentioned.
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Tetrahedron
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Posted on Saturday, June 13, 2015 - 01:32 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Im looking for contact notes 244 in either german or a translation, can anyone show me where it is at to read?
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Hugo
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Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2015 - 02:23 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think this scientist could have got his new theory of our Sun having a dark twin Sun from reading Meier's contact notes. There are a lot of similarities with what he is saying and what the P's said in Contact Report 544 about our dark twin star.


Why can't we see Nemesis? - The Sun's Evil Twin
Jan 17, 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1UE-8MkAIQ


Contact Report 544
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_544
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Joe
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Post Number: 388
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Sunday, November 22, 2015 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In contact report 256 it is mentioned that it was Lee Harvey Oswald who had assassinated the former US president John F. Kennedy.

http://www.theyfly.com/corroboration-evidence

Bur now in this November 2015 issue of the Globe magazine it mentions that the shooter was James Files. In another website it is said that his real name is actually James Sutton but for some reason his real name is not mentioned in the magazine.

http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/confession2.htm

Use the following link to download the excerpt from the Globe magazine:

http://www69.zippyshare.com/v/lH23HAUj/file.html

I don't know, but maybe it could be disinformation in order to mislead people.
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Joe
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Post Number: 397
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2016 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Excerpt from Contact Report 202

Billy:
Do you know the interests around Hitler?

Quetzal:
12. Yes, why?

Billy:
My question: as Sfath once explained to me, Adolf Hitler was syphilitic and already terminally ill in the third stage, and in consciousness, he was already no longer entirely clear in the head. His consciousness had already been partially impaired, by what means he could no longer think clearly and act, and he also became megalomaniac and unpredictable. From this disease, syphilis, he would have died sooner or later if he hadn’t shot himself, which he actually did, right? Anyhow, that’s what Sfath said.

Quetzal:
13. What you have said corresponds to the truth.
14. But why do you mention these things?

Billy:
Quite simply because there are always people who maintain that Hitler is still alive and, thus, didn’t commit suicide.

Quetzal:
15. That corresponds to erroneous, stupid, and know-it-all claims as well as wishful assertions because Adolf Hitler actually shot himself, and to be sure, in Berlin on the 30th of April, 1945.
16. At that time, he was just 56 years old.

End of excerpt.

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_202

Secret FBI files 'reveal Hitler DID fake death' after WW2 then flew to TENERIFE

http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/632677/Adolf-Hitler-Nazi-fake-death-World-War-Two-Tenerife?utm_source=traffic.outbrain&utm_medium=traffic.outbrain&utm_term=traffic.outbrain&utm_content=traffic.outbrain&utm_campaign=traffic.outbrain

I know this is obviously not a corroboration. But what would one make of it? If it's disinformation then the question is whether it's deliberate disinformation or not.
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Historeed
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Posted on Wednesday, January 13, 2016 - 04:43 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joe,

That article is referring to the TV series "Hunting Hitler" on the History Channel (which I watched). All that is proven in the series is that Nazis did flee to South America after WW2. (Which is already well-known by historians). Sightings of Hitler were reported, but no hard evidence ever proved he escaped from Berlin in April 1945.
Matthew Reed
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Earthling
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Posted on Wednesday, January 13, 2016 - 06:29 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joe, regarding your post 388 - I agree, in that James Earl Sutton, aka James Files was the grassy knoll shooter who fired the kill-shot using the Remington XP-fireball with a mercury-tipped bullet that explodes on impact, hence the back quarter of Kennedy's head was blown out, rather than a bullet hole just passing through.

That website you post is the real deal.

http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com

They did some amazing detective work and a large part of the huge conspiracy is all in there.
http://beam2eng.blogspot.com/

Bruce
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Joe
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Post Number: 399
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Wednesday, January 13, 2016 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Matthew,

You are right, there really is no real evidence that Adolf Hitler did actually flee to Argentina. It could all just be misleading information and to make one think that Hitler did probably flee to South America. It's all just another distraction from both the mainstream and alternative media.

Bruce,

Yeah right, whatever you say mate...
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Watchdog
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Posted on Thursday, January 14, 2016 - 08:36 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joe.
Contact report 202

Billy:
Quite simply because there are always people who maintain that Hitler is still alive and, thus, didn’t commit suicide.

Quetzal:
15. That corresponds to erroneous, stupid, and know-it-all claims as well as wishful assertions because Adolf Hitler actually shot himself, and to be sure, in Berlin on the 30th of April, 1945.
David AKA Watchdog. USA
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Earthling
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Post Number: 948
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Posted on Friday, January 15, 2016 - 03:48 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joe - with your dismissive 'whatever' remark, you must hold a view on the assassination that differs with mine. Since you brought it up, where do you stand on the issue,... mate?
http://beam2eng.blogspot.com/

Bruce
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Joe
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Post Number: 400
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Friday, January 15, 2016 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bruce,

I'm not sure why you even bothered posting a reply to my post number 388 in the first place because in that post I had already mentioned that it was probably disinformation.

David,

Yes, I know, I had already mentioned that in my post number 397. And yes, I had also mentioned that it's maybe disinformation.
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Earthling
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Post Number: 951
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Posted on Friday, January 15, 2016 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joe, you wrote 'maybe' it could be disinformation; maybe implies you weren't sure. But it is not disinformation and I have no doubts about it, no maybes. Neither did contact 256 say Oswald did it. There is no english translation of CR 256 but a summary says -

"Assassination of U.S. president John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963 in Dallas, Texas - CIA, FBI, Mafia, Pro-Cuba movement, oil barons and the military-industrial complex; Lee Harvey Oswald; Jack Ruby (Jack Rubinstein)"

And that is precisely who was involved. Lee Harvey Oswald was just as he said he was - a patsy. He never fired a shot.
http://beam2eng.blogspot.com/

Bruce
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Joe
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Posted on Friday, January 15, 2016 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bruce,

So you are saying that the link that I had provided makes sense to you and you think that Lee Harvey Oswald never fired a shot? I obviously do not know if that is what really happened but what I do know is that it was mentioned either somewhere in the contact notes or in maybe one of the FIGU bulletins that it was Lee Harvey Oswald himself who had shot and killed the former US president John F. Kennedy. But Lee Harvey Oswald was not acting alone. It could have been in FIGU Bulletin 5 that I may have read this.

Excerpt from FIGU Bulletin 5

"Through the use of nuclear explosions new lakes and waterways have been created in that country. In 1961, just after the erection of the Berlin Wall, the world was on the brink of a nuclear war. In 1962, barely one year later, the situation became even more dramatic when the Cuban Crisis shook the world. John Fitzgerald Kennedy, the 35th President of the United States (1961-63; assassinated on November 22, 1963, in Dallas, Texas, by Lee Harvey Oswald who was murdered himself by Jack Rubynstein called Ruby) forced Soviet ships, that were fully loaded with rockets and nuclear warheads and ready to make a run for Castro's Cuba, to turn back and return to the Soviet Union."

End of excerpt.

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Bulletin_005
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Joe
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Post Number: 402
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2016 - 12:08 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bruce,

Contact report 256 in the future of mankind website says that it is the entire contact. But how can this be the entire contact when Ptaah starts to speak at line 86? That doesn't make sense. So therefore it is obviously not the entire contact! On Michael Horn's theyfly.com website (which I had already posted) it mentions contact report 256 and information about the Kennedy assassination.

http://www.theyfly.com/corroboration-evidence

And here is the link to the corroboration:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/05/070517142528.htm
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Stefan_z2
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Post Number: 57
Registered: 12-2014
Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2016 - 04:42 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Fellows,

I have Block 7 of the Contact Notes. Here thus a quick service for you…

**********************

Billy: Danke. Diese Auskunft genügt mir. Darf man heute vielleicht offiziell fragen, wie sich eigentlich die Sache um John F. Kennedy, dem 35. Präsidenten der USA, verhalten hat, der am 22.11.1963 in Dallas/Texas ermordet wurde?

Ptaah:
30. Es war eine Verschwörung verschiedener Interessengruppen, die aus CIA, FBI, Mafia, Pro-Kubanern, Oilbaronen und dem Militär-Industrie-Komplex bestand.

31. Lee Harvey Oswald und drei Männer arbeiteten mit dem Verschwörerbund zusammen, in dessen Folge man dann heimtückisch den US-Präsidenten erschoss.

32. Wohl wurden auch von Oswald wie von anderen Beteiligten Schüsse auf John Fitzgerald Kennedy abgegeben, doch der wirklich tödliche Schuss stammte nicht aus der Waffe Oswalds.

Billy: Der ja dann wiederum von Jack Ruby erschossen wurde, der in Wahrheit Rubinstein hiess.

Ptaah:
33. Das ist richtig.

34. Er war ein jüdischer Extremist und ebenfalls ein gedungener Mörder, mit dem Auftrag, Oswald zu erschiessen, weil die Verantwortlichen der Verschwörung diesem nicht trauten und ihn als Unsicherheitsfaktor einstuften.

**********************

Billy: Thank you. This information is sufficient for me. Is it possible today to ask you officially, how things around John F. Kennedy, the 35th President of the United States, evolved, who was assassinated on November 22nd 1963 in Dallas, Texas?

Ptaah:
30. It was a conspiracy of various interest groups, which consisted of CIA, FBI, Mafia, Pro-Cubans, oil barons and the military-industrial complex.

31 Lee Harvey Oswald and three men worked with the alliance of conspirators, as a result the President got shot insidiously.

32. Shots at John Fitzgerald Kennedy were fired by Oswald as well as other involved ones, but the really deadly shot did not originate from Oswald’s weapon.

Billy: Latter was then in turn shot dead by Jack Ruby, with the true name of Rubinstein.

Ptaah:
33. That's right.

34. He was a Jewish extremist and also a professional killer, with the task to shoot Oswald, because the leaders of the conspiracy did not trust him and categorized him as element of uncertainty.

**********************

Salome,
Stefan
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Earthling
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Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2016 - 08:39 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for that Stefan.

However, I have a couple problems with what Ptaah said. Firstly, he has those groups mentioned correctly except for the label 'Pro-Cubans'. At the time, the CIA regularly did business (dirty business) with the mob. The mob was none to happy about Castro taking over their cash-cow casinos. The CIA's financial backers, aka the military-industrial complex were equally pissed about Castro nationalizing all US corporations on the island. And of course, those opposed to Castro wanted to overthrow him. It was those anti-Castro Cubans who were involved in the Kennedy conspiracy. So to call them Pro-Cuban is misleading. It is far more correct to call them anti-Castro Cubans.

All those elements worked together to get rid of Kennedy but at the last minute the CIA had second thoughts and wanted to call the whole thing off but their hired hit-men from the mob said "eff'em, we're going ahead with it." The CIA probably knew that and sent in an abort team, which needless to say, failed in their mission. http://jfkmurdersolved.com/toshfiles.htm

All the information I've researched points to the fact that Oswald never fired a shot. He was all along to be the patsy portrayed as a lone-nut killer with Russian and Cuban communist connections. His wife has said she told him to not participate and according to her, he said 'if I'm involved, that will be one less shot fired at the president.'

Also, Ptaah phrasing Jack Ruby as a Jewish extremist seems to be incorrect from everything I've read. He was always in trouble as a boy and ended up with ties to organized crime, a successful night club(strip club)in Dallas, strong connections with the Dallas police force, Texas politicians (LBJ). All these criminal elements from both sides of the law were heavily intertwined. His instructions were to shut the patsy up for good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqeWts3ZfSA

If interested, there is a ton of info in this 2003 interview with James Files, including the play by play of his fatal shot from behind the stockade fence on the grassy knoll https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr4vgHsmNEk

The essence and importance of not only the huge conspiracy to kill this US President, but the incredibly extensive cover-up, which included the murder of well over one-hundred witnesses as well as the farce of the Warren Commission, lies in the fact that all these forces staged a coup d'etat of the US government and hasn't looked back ever since. Kennedy, with his brother, wanted to ratchet back the power of the CIA/FBI, they wanted to crack down on the mob, he had documented plans to withdraw from Vietnam as well as to have a more peaceful relationship with the Russians. The dark forces would have none of this and have only grown in power to this day and are the same dark forces who have had Obama by the family jewels. The power-structure of that day viewed the so-called liberal northeastern mafia of Joseph Kennedy with his sons as a threat and competition. So the Texas oil barrons and their CIA-mob connections simply got rid of them. Think of the generations of Bushes - Prescott, George Sr & George Jr.
http://beam2eng.blogspot.com/

Bruce
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Joe
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Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2016 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stefan_z2,

Thank you for your post number 57. It is appreciated by me and many others in this forum.

Maybe I'm wrong, but in Michael Horn's website it states the following:

Scott (Forum admin): In 1996 Billy had a contact with the Plejaren Ptaah. In this contact the subject of the Kennedy assassination was bought up. From what I understand new information was bought up regarding this incident, I don't know if this is in print or not, but this information was released via a presentation by Guido Moosebrugger. It was stated during this contact that Lee Harvey Oswald and 3 others worked together in this conspiracy to kill JFK. As a result Oswald killed the American President, even though shots were fired by others upon JFK also at the same time, by this group. The fatal shot was fired by Oswald according to the contact.

Source: http://www.theyfly.com/corroboration-evidence

Which obviously would give one the impression that it was Oswald who had shot and killed the former US president John F. Kennedy.

But also when one reads FIGU Bulletin 5 from the future of mankind website it states that it was Oswald who had shot and killed the former US president John F. Kennedy.

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Bulletin_005

But in contact report 256 Ptaah mentions that Lee Harvey Oswald did shoot at John Fitzgerald Kennedy but the fatal shot did not come from Oswald's rifle which is certainly interesting. But unfortunately Ptaah does not mention who did actually shot and killed the former US president John Fitzgerald Kennedy.

There either seems to be some sort of contradiction or I'm misunderstanding the whole thing myself.
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2016 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Stefan. From what actual contact is this information?
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Stefan_z2
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Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2016 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

@Michael: it is from contact report 256. As Joe had rightly assumed, the current online version at the future of mankind website is only an extract. The print I am having is Plejadisch-plejarische Kontaktberichte Block 7, marked as copyrighted in 2005.

Salome,
Stefan
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Kenneth
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Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2016 - 08:10 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Billy also said that the assignation of President Kennedy was the work of the CIA and the Secret Services. I'll see if can find that mention?

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