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Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 990
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2015 - 07:48 am: | 
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Tetrah,
Since the core of the teaching is self-responsibility, whether one can prove that the Plejaren exist is irrelevant…and enormously premature.
We barely know ho two think on our world, to see things as they are, to understand the law of causality and its universal operation, etc.
Corey's advice is well worth considering. |
Jedaiah
Member
Post Number: 86
Registered: 09-2012
| | Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2015 - 12:34 pm: |
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Corey,
Merely solidifying what you wrote, so yes, we're on the same page ;)
Cheers |
Votan
Member
Post Number: 289
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2015 - 01:52 pm: |
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Corey
To put it in simple terms whilst human being worship the money system including the material things, he will not progress.
In fact he will get worse.Unfortunately you have to use the money system but do not worship it.
If you have accumulated extra beyond what you need ,help some body out. I bet you that you will feel good.
joe
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Corey
Member
Post Number: 766
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2015 - 09:07 pm: |
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Joe,
If you have extra money, giving to the needy is actually in line with the spiritual teaching, as it is one of the many recommendations of the Goblet of the Truth. Also what you say about money is true, Billy says we have to use it, but keep things within limits and don't let it go to your head, because the money itself is neutral, it's the humans who let it go to their heads.
Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche
Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124
Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216
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Tetrahedron
New member
Post Number: 4
Registered: 06-2014
| | Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2015 - 10:19 pm: |
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To my replies for which I got a response, thanks for it 
Im not a all fond of the money system. Im broke and no one offers me benevolence via money for instance, even though I do the same in return so many times. Apart from the money, its a symptom of humanities issues in my opinion. While most people here may be rich or have alot of cash at hand, when was the last time you actually gave it away? No one could ask here, even though I give it away quite often.
My point is this, do away with the sacred cows and give while you can. While money is god for the most part, your not immune to other things in which money would be useless.
Self responsibility, I find giving away wealth, money, information,(in good timing) to be a largely responsible thing to do. You might just buy someone out from another country from going into prostitution, or crime, which is one issue typical of talk, and no action :/
Proving plejaren existence or other e.t. existence isnt irreverent at all, its a personal reminder that life exist and thrives better than us, and forces us to be self responsible rather then assuming were alone(conscientiously, or unconsciously). You of course dont need the stereo typical baggage carried with it that is typical of media, as more personal realization lived and experienced e.t. interaction periodically would be more then enough.
As for Plejarens failing or not in there, I think its irreverent to actually living it out in contact with them for whatever spiritual teaching. In that manner there is abit more widespread success rather than the words of one man of whom one cant even speak to. However that doesnt necessarily mean its plejarens, who knows who else is out there.
So Corey, is there a place I can read all of Billy's work for free? Im a total free share information person if you understand, and im not finding anything saying billy has negatives views of the "new age", at least on Google. Otherwise im not likely to buy anything from billy's work. I bought a book called the keys of enoch years back and im regretting that because free(in my opinion)material says the author isnt seeking profit, hence legit benevolence. New age is a baggage term, and often the material is just a gateway to other things, thats how im here for instance.
So I guess I might as well ask it blunt,
How do I get in contact with plejarens, or related peoples, persons, things etc. |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 2521
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Friday, February 27, 2015 - 10:28 am: |
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Without straying too far off topic, I also believe it is good to help people, but I have found it is wise to know how they use what is given to them. Billy has mentioned you don't want to give money to those who would purchase alcohol, drugs etc...I have given money to this person I know, until I found out she was using the money for makeup etc... |
Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 992
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Friday, February 27, 2015 - 10:25 am: |
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Tetra,
It's really wonderful that you want everything for free. It's also parasitical.
However, you can read tons of free information at www.theyflyblog.com and www.theyfly.com and sites linked from it.
Yes, Billy has some "negative views" on a lot of the New Age garbage.
Perhaps when you apply the same standards of "benevolence" to everything else in your life, food, clothing, shelter, transportation - computer, internet, etc., and of course demand that it all be freely given to you because of all of your great contributions to humanity and highly evolved consciousness…you'll borrow a pencil and paper from someone (or their computer) long enough to tell its how all of this "free" life worked out for you. |
Blake_p
Member
Post Number: 302
Registered: 07-2012
| | Posted on Friday, February 27, 2015 - 11:55 am: |
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Tetrahedron,
Not quite sure what you are asking,but I do know that the Plejaren will never contact anyone other than Billy. He is the last prophet of our planet and is the medium between us and them for many many reasons. You could always go to the center and meet everyone and see for yourself.
As for free information,well no information is free...someone somewhere had to spend time writing it,producing it,spend money for the making of books,materials,etc,etc. while it may cost you nothing to access it,you may want to consider the effort that goes into that and even the Plejaren say all work is worth it's wage. As for Figu,it is a nonprofit organization...which is about the best you can hope for in being non-materialistically inclined. I'm sorry but that a real disrespectful point of view towards the people that are selfless enough to make this ALL important information available to others,which takes a lot of time and money. Just because most of the people here strive for better things doesn't mean we are exempt from the way life is on this planet...in which everything revolves around money whether we like it or not. |
Tetrahedron
Member
Post Number: 5
Registered: 06-2014
| | Posted on Friday, February 27, 2015 - 12:00 pm: |
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HI Scott,
Well you are right, I gave my nephew an ssd once, and he had been stealing from me cash. Im not sure what happened after word, but he became vegan which was something I was wishing of him. Perhaps it was the intent in harmony with universe? Yes, people often do feed there addictions and give a bad taste to the giver and that gets imprinted on others in advertently, and hence we get endless cycles of crap, etc etc...
Im really not aware of plejaren history to compare, but I would image that alot of this is the result of those in power. I would image that plejarens would under cut the issues at hand such as poverty and ignorance and hence giving aware wouldnt been something of a bad cycle as it is here.
Taking this on a larger scale, the united states recently stopped giving aid to pakistan and they are abit furious and now there are undercutting founding for the people I think. The problem was that there was no wise spending to begin with, partly because of that nations lack of general discernment(just my guess, I live in usa).
Im not sure what billy says about anything personally, so I cant quote or even give him much venerability in anything, similar in the way you dont give it to the person buying makeup. |
Verlanis
Member
Post Number: 135
Registered: 10-2012
| | Posted on Friday, June 26, 2015 - 02:21 pm: |
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This is hopefully the most appropriate section.
This is a link to what I believe is the best picture of The Destroyer.
https://www.google.com/sky/#latitude=22.61407353592708&longitude=-94.41178321838379&zoom=13&Spitzer=0.00&ChandraXO=0.00&Galex=0.00&IRAS=0.00&WMAP=0.00&Cassini=0.00&slide=1&mI=-1&oI=-1
Jack -- 250 years of peace within the last 10,000 years, and we wonder why we all have a headache.
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King20192003
Member
Post Number: 5
Registered: 08-2014
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 12:33 am: |
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Hi Guys
I have a question that confuses me.
If the Barney and Betty abduction case was untrue, then I was wondering how did the Plejaren came up with an initial thought of it was done by Zeta Reticuli.
Why Zeta Reticuli, and not other aliens?? |
Paul_wr
Member
Post Number: 24
Registered: 11-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 04:14 am: |
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Hi King,
The theory of the alleged abductors originating from Zeta Reticula was not formulated by the Plejaren. The hills drew a map of system that they had said that they were shown, and that system was a close match to Zeta Reticula. We can assume with some confidence that the description of the Extraterrestrials must have also closely matched the real form of the Zeta Retilcan peoples in order for the Plejaren to of been taken in by the whole story.
Regards,
Paul |
Verlanis
Member
Post Number: 136
Registered: 10-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 09:50 am: |
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Betty and Barney Hills case was real. The images Betty seen were from a previous Android survivor from the Roswell crash that was transmitting telenotic images which were "recieved" by Betty showing the origin star system.
Hypothesis based upon purely FIGU material which corresponds to the psionic physics they detail in adapted layman speech.
Jack -- 250 years of peace within the last 10,000 years, and we wonder why we all have a headache.
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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 2553
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 10:22 am: |
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Verlanis,
Can you reference where in the FIGU material it is stated this case is real?
Thanks |
Paul_wr
Member
Post Number: 25
Registered: 11-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 10:38 am: |
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Verlanis,
I am pretty sure that no such reference exists, at least not in the english translations of the material.
Cheers,
Paul |
King20192003
Member
Post Number: 6
Registered: 08-2014
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 10:44 am: |
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Thank you.
I also wanted to know why most of the contact reports in English are excerpt, and not many full reports. Does the full report available in German and it is still pending for translation? |
Learnmore12
Member
Post Number: 31
Registered: 05-2014
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 04:10 pm: |
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This case really took place according to Semjase. Please read CR 37. Thanks |
King20192003
Member
Post Number: 7
Registered: 08-2014
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 10:11 pm: |
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HI Learnmore12
This case did not take place. It was a mistake by Plejaren. Please read the newer contact report. Thanks |
Ajpogs
New member
Post Number: 1
Registered: 03-2014
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 12:48 am: |
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wow amazing i hope i have experience what billy experience regarding space travel |
Stefan_z2
Member
Post Number: 18
Registered: 12-2014
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 02:42 am: |
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Hi Learnmore12,
As it is sometimes the case, the information from that early CR got superseded by later better insights. See CR 424 in English
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_424
and in German over here
http://www.figu.org/ch/verein/periodika/sonder-bulletin/2006/nr-25/belange-ausserirdischer
Salome,
Stefan |
Paul_wr
Member
Post Number: 26
Registered: 11-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 05:11 am: |
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No Learnmore, the case did not take place! You need to read on further into the reports.
The Plejaren took the accounts of the Hills as they were given and probably also as it was stored in their subconscious, but as they cases of alleged abductions multiplied significantly to enormous levels, they done a complete investigation of the 19th and 20th century. New technology that they had received was also an important factor in making it now possible to investigate these matters further.
please read this report
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_424
Thanks,
Paul |
Learnmore12
Member
Post Number: 32
Registered: 05-2014
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 07:45 am: |
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Hi Stefan_z2, Paul_wr, and King20192003,
Thanks for the correction. I missed that. |
Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 258
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, February 20, 2016 - 10:06 am: |
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GIANT Alien Structure Near Jupiter
Did some Earthlings catch one of the Plejaren Federation ships on their camera?
https://youtu.be/HZrVt7J1FUs?t=11 |
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