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Newinitiation
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Posted on Saturday, March 05, 2016 - 05:47 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone here know or came upon more information in the contact notes as to why Arrusem and his 70,000 followers hid under the Giza pyramids I mean of all places around the world?
What significance did the Giza pyramids have and the powers contained in these pyramidal structures that of all pyramids around the world Arrusem chose the one in Egypt?
If him and his scientists and his subsequent offsprings were able to hide from Ptaah and Salem right up to their deportation back in 1977 this maybe a telltale sign that beyond his technical abilities, the pyramids might have enhanced certain capabilities as what a faraday cage would be to an electromagnetic wave/frequency/pulse.
I mean if you think about it the Orions did foresee the eventual arrival of the destroyer comet and built the pyramids all over the world with certain design elements and specification.
This could mean that back some 73,000 years ago all the pyramids around the world may have been linked similar to how the worldwide web is linked to form one cohesive internet.
This leads to one conclusion and that is there had to have been a good reason.
That reason could be that when something as powerful as the perfect form in the form of the pyramid is linked and joined by other pyramids around the world it must amplify something.
What could it be?
Anybody's guess is as good as mine although....but
My suspicion is that all the connected pyramids were amplifying earth's magnetic field like upgrading your Macdonald's burger meal to a large size double patty extra fries and super size coke.
So why?
My guess is that through the amplication of earth's magnetic field you thereby influence the gravitational effect of the sun as well as all the other planets and the moons in our solar system.
So?
To deflect the coming destroyer comet so as not to be crashed by it and to any of the other solar bodies in our solar system which if it did would definitely have caused tremendous chain reactive devastation much like what happen to Lyra planetary system where 2/3 of inhabitants were wiped out.
So my point being that its possible that the pyramids weren't just built and all the underground cubicles and cities just for people to safe house themselves upon the arrival of the destroyer but that certain other features were also included.
Its just my own assumption.

Matt lee
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Kenneth
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Posted on Saturday, March 05, 2016 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Matt,

Good question; we both think along the same lines. It's my understanding that the Giza Pyramid's were build for protection as well. The entire population of the area would not be able to fit into these pyramids; under ground, below the pyramids, maybe?

The link between the Destroyer Planet and the Earth Pyramids is brilliant.

Kenneth
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Monday, March 07, 2016 - 01:23 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks kenneth
I am also wondering why the pyramids are so prevalent in our solar system and why our ET ancestors built them all over the solar system.
Heck even Mars and our moon has them.
So extrapolating further these pyramids were all suppose to be linked in our solar system to amplify certain magnetic and gravitational effect to repel the destroyer comet when it entered our solar system or so I am assuming.
I mean there is not much information about the people from Orion.
They predate Pelegon's arrival but preceded by Pleja so I can't pinpoint exactly what race they were just from reading the contact notes but still they must have been highly developed spiritualy and technically.
Why they came here or how much of an impact they had to earth's people I don't know nor what happened to them afterwards.
For all I know they could've been the creator benefactors.

Matt lee
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Matthew
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Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2016 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The CIA’s recently disclosed real X-Files contains an independent account, from the 50's, of phenomena photographed by Meier decades ago

On the 9th July 1952, 46-year-old Oscar Linke, a former mayor of Gleimershausen, was travelling home when he blew the tyre of his motorcycle at Hasselbach, Germany. What he saw can be found in the report extracts below along with links to the corresponding photos from Billy. Source: https://www.cia.gov/news-information/blog/2016/take-a-peek-into-our-x-files.html


"Flying Saucers Reported Over East Germany, 1952" Correlations between Oscar Linke’s report and the Meier case

1. Oscar Linke: “What I had seen were two men who were now about 40 meters away from me. They seemed to be dressed in some [a] shiny metallic clothing”.

a: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/File:Alena_with_her_laser_gun.jpg

2. Oscar Linke: “Now the side of the object on which the holes had been opened began to [a] glitter. Its color seemed green but later turned to red. At the same time I began to hear a slight [b] hum. While the brightness and hum increased the [c] conical tower began to slide down into the center of the object. The whole object then began to rise slowly from the ground and rotate like a top.”

a: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/File:F_0568.jpg
b: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Beamship_Sounds
c: "The central core of the WCUFO extends upwards a little bit”: http://www.tjresearch.info/Zahi_WCUFO%20Investigation.pdf

3. Oscar Linke: “The object, surrounded by a [a] ring of flames, was now a certain number of feet above the ground”

a: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/File:Meier_in_fire_circle.jpg


The above descriptions also correspond to historical accounts of the Prophet Elijah (Elja) and Ezekial

2 Kings 2:11
After seeing a “chariot of fire” the prophet Elijah “went up by a whirlwind into heaven”. His friends searched for his body for 3 days and never found it. Additionally, in 2 Kings 2:23, a group came up to Elijah’s associate, Elisha, and mocked him saying, ““Go up, thou bald head! Go up, thou bald head!”. Source: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Kings+2&version=KJ21

Ezekial 1
Accounts of a “windstorm coming out of the north—an immense cloud with flashing lightning and surrounded by brilliant light. The center of the fire looked like glowing metal”. Source: http://biblehub.com/niv/ezekiel/1.htm

Ezekiel 1:16
“The appearance of the wheels and their workmanship was like sparkling beryl [a glossy stone], and all four of them had the same form, their appearance and workmanship being as if one wheel were within another.
17 Whenever they moved, they moved in any of their four directions without turning as they moved.”

Descriptions of “sparkling beryl” and "burnished bronze" in Ezekial 1 reminded me of the rim and undercarriage of the WCUFO: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/File:Bottom_of_the_Wedding_cake.jpg


Salome


Matthew
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Kenneth
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Posted on Friday, March 11, 2016 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Matthew,
A good friend that I refer to as "G-Man" responded to that information that I sent to him.

G-Man,
​We all knew that this information was factual; it was just a matter of time before the truth came out.
Your friend Ken​neth

- - - - - - - - - - - -

Kenneth, there’s all kinds of “stuff” in the CIA X Files. When I was still a novice agent at OSI HQ in DC I was assigned to help wrap up and seal the AF Project Blue Book records. In so doing, I noted many references to “CIA Information” which had no further information/definition (NFI) and always wondered what was in those references. As everything was sealed (including my lips) I could only surmise and did so accurately over the years. Every now and then I’d like to call a former agent who was a co-worker just to chat but I know that my signed statement of non-disclosure would be the focal point of any official inquiry which would certainly be opened. Oh well………
Signed: Name redacted. (G-Man)
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Friday, March 18, 2016 - 03:33 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Was there any discussion re. the "Human Genome Project" ?

In 2013 Prof. Chang claimed to have proof that 97 % of human genes are alien and that our cousins are definitively extraterrestrial…
http://rense.com/general74/d3af.htm

It would confirm Semjase’s statement
“….From these, present Earth mankind developed..”
meaning that the ancestors of all Earth mankind are offspring conceived by “wild and beautiful” Earth women who “were distant descendants of former human beings from cosmic space” who were “tamed and mated with" by Arus leaders and sub-leaders.

Thus Semjasa became the father of Adam and Eve - the ancestors of the white reace.

"...A further copulation with genetically manipulated influence followed through Asasel, fathered by the first father Ledon, deemed to be the forefather for the brown human race.

As forefather for the red human race, was Tet-el fathered by Sartael, where also a genetic manipulation took place. Asasel as well as Sartael likewise belonged to the clan of the custodians.

All three of the newly conceived and created human races of the Earth lived, from when they were created, on three different continents, whereby it was imposed on them not to intermingle between themselves, but to always procreate offspring from people of their own kind. But as it usually was the case with people on Earth since time immemorial they ignored all warnings as well as good advice so within a short time they intermingled between themselves and many mixed races were procreated which spread wide..."

www.meiersaken.info/terrestrial_humans.html

If the Human Genome Project was conducted by many scientists and its findings (genetic origin of Earth humans are alien) can be trusted - why was it not publicized in the media?

Salome,

Bill
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Friday, March 18, 2016 - 05:04 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry about the post re. the Human Genome Project.

First of all it should have had the hyperlink
http://ufosightingshotspot.blogspot.com.au/2013/04/scientific-proof-human-race-was-created.html

Secondly = the Wikipedia does not mention any ET connection at all in the findings of this project:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Genome_Project

Conclusion:
There is a great likelihood that some web sites publish “sensationally looking” speculations at best.

Salome,

Bill
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Kenneth
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Posted on Friday, March 18, 2016 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bill,

From another point of view or maybe a Paradigm Shift; “A fundamental change in approach or underlying assumptions”.

Isn’t it interesting that a super advanced race would purposefully and decisively create different human races?

Arus/Semjasa, the forefather of the White human race, “Adam and Eve”.

Asasel/Ledon, the forefather for the Brown human race.

Tet-al/Sartael the forefather of the red human race.

Semjase:
. . .All three of the newly conceived and created human races of the Earth lived, from when they were created, on three different continents. . .

Does this not look like a form of Terraforming? Transforming a planet so as to resemble Earth; or would it be called, another planets name/forming as from where the extraterrestrials came from?

And then, the Yellow race dropped in on another portion of Earth, 26,004 years ago as of this year! They came from the planet Nissan in the Lyra Systems. Not only that, they had an earthly vehicle named after them.
http://www.meiersaken.info/terrestrial_humans.html

As the various cultures developed, we were watched to see what would happen, and guided to a certain extent. It would have been obvious to our benefactors aka Forefathers that we would eventually find our way to the other Earth continents, finding the other races of humans, and at some point in future time, other planets.

The point is; looking at this from outside the box; this all appears to be a grand experiment of human nature and development.

Kenneth
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Kenneth
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Posted on Friday, March 18, 2016 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bill,

"why was it not publicized in the media?"

Hence the Galileo Effect:
Persecution and censorship of non-majority views in spite of non-trivial supporting data; intense peer pressure to "toe the line"; choosing the underlying paradigm for non-scientific reasons such as funding and philosophy; and the resultant dishonesty and unprofessionalism required to defend that paradigm, at the cost of scientific progress.

Here is a good one for you:
"It is in the first place constantly assumed, especially at the present day, that the opposition which Copernicanism encountered at the hands of ecclesiastical authority was prompted by hatred of science and a desire to keep the minds of men in the darkness of ignorance. To suppose that any body of men could deliberately adopt such a course is ridiculous, especially a body which, with whatever defects of method, had for so long been the only one which concerned itself with science at all."

- from The Catholic Encyclopedia

Kenneth
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Monday, March 21, 2016 - 05:21 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Kenneth,

You are right.
It was a great plan to re-create what was destroyed.
Arus may have finally come to the insight that the killing of innocent lives should be "balanced".
Not that guilt would have motivated him.
But he was a scientist and would have been quite aware about cause and effect underlying all evolution.

Parental education / love is very natural for all living beings in the universe.
This sentiment may be even stronger in those with a consciousness of universal oneness.
Though it is never mentioned anywhere like that:
The Plejaren Mission may have – to a degree - as well arisen out of a heartfelt responsibility “to look how the offspring are doing”…

The same sentiment on an even grander scale may underlie the incarnations of Nokodemion.

Salome,

Bill
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Ilovebilly
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Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2016 - 02:27 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gday Michaelhelfert

re; our convo in mars thread

If research leads to a telonin bomb results are made that give wrong data, scientists get impulsed.

The High council can also step in, also WE-Forms since the days of Henock.

Just found this snippet i had from study:
85. Besides, I don't forget that we often only reversed our decisions because you cried out to us and brought forward facts that always allowed us to continue the contacts, even though we logically would have had to end these, and to be sure, before it was able to come so far that the High Council began to endeavor itself personally around everything.

(personally around everything.) that was to find out why the mission had issues

2075 aprox was mentioned in cnotes for Billy to reincarnate and his mission details. Search cnotes 2075

Some acids are formed by the spirit, its one way it affects us in a material way, it uses acids

There is method to my madness:
i do try hard not to be diverse as u nicely put it, trust me on that eh eh, fast evolution brings out the negatives and positives internal and external,somethings i say folks will understand only when it happens to them. For long posts i will try to use a pc/keyboard ;-)

The future is always bright (at anytime) when we calm our inner storm,live in The Creations law to the best of our abilities and remember what we are

Did u see the symbol post by Billwilson12 ? in symbols and numbers thread

Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Votan
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Ilovebilly

What on earth are you talking about , your last thread makes no sense.

Please explain.
joe
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Ilovebilly
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Gday Votan, what in the thought am i thoughting about? THAT is a Good question mate, goto mars thread

Post 497

http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/show.cgi?14/880


http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_251

Prerequisite for contact


And this is exactly the case - always with the assumption everything occurs precisely and

correctly - for its prerequisite is that terrestrial Man must first remedy the damage, or

corruption, of his genetic manipulation and change his mentality, thoughts and actions into

the Creational-natural state prior to attaining open contact with alien races and peoples,

that is, to extraterrestrials.



Taking everything into account, official contacts with extraterrestrials are currently truly

not recommendable, for terrestrial human beings are incapable of bearing the reality

appropriately particularly from the secular-sectarian, the military, religious-sectarian,

economical and political position. For this reason, official contacts with extraterrestrials

would be entirely out of place should they occur at this time or in the near future.

Extraterrestrial contacts at this time are viable only with individuals or certain, very

small groups; to this end, contacts of a secret military and governmental nature would be

feasible as well.



from Askets explanation part 1

42. It is the task of each more highly developed life form to stand alongside less developed forms with help in responsible measure, to influence the evolution in the appropriate strength.

43. This obligation is incumbent on all life forms of all universes, because it is based within a creational law.

44. And when we are here now from what to you is a foreign universe, this obligation is also incumbent upon us equally with the Earth human, so for that reason, at a given time, we will enter into official contact with more of this universe's own non-terrestrial and highly developed life forms.

45. But this will first be that far along in some years to come, when I return to my universe, after which then another contact will be taken up with you.

46. As already highly developed life forms, we have recognized very many things in this your own universe which require an alteration.

47. In particular, on this world, things are done which are on a very dangerous course.

48. Earth humanity is entering into the age of technical knowledge and technical development, as well as the time of coming computer and gene technology, but through many kinds of factors, knowledge and development will be unconsciously or consciously maliciously disturbed, especially through wrong ideologies whose multiple misleading, enslaving, humiliating or exploitative consequences effect the people.

49. A boundless lust for power is characteristic of all terrestrial ideologies, and the actual goal embodiment of everything exists in the acquisition of control.

50. Ideology means the greatest and most dangerous power for the acquisition of control, which, as a rule, almost without exception, is striven for by all directions of faith, in so far as they are aligned religiously or as a secret society, scientifically, pseudo-scientifically, politically, militarily or fanatically, and so forth.


Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Stefan_z2
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Hi,

Yet another futile attempt of making the big boys and girls play with us before we are ready for it.

Salome,
Stefan

*****************************************

http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/12/24/hi-were-from-earth-heres-how-well-call-e-t/

A new messenger service for the very patient - responses in best case 8.5 years later. One can notice that, if anything, the interest in what is out there in the vast universe is steadily growing. We are living in an exciting age of explorations and discoveries. Just funny to see us earthlings still like in the dark Middle Ages assuming us and Earth for whatever reason being centre and culmination of greatness in the whole cosmos. More realistic is that we have since thousands of years been visited and very carefully monitored by much more advanced civilisations.
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Michael_horn
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Hi Stefan,

Thanks, I posted a comment there and sent Lisa a lengthy email.

Now, may I again for the zillionth time, invite the FIGU community to get proactive, to comment, email, inform and rattle the cages when articles pertaining to this or any Meier related material appears?

Extend yourselves out of the bubble of common interest and agreement and let other - interested - people in the world know just haw far...behind they are.
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Markcampbell
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Greetings Earthman Michael , Stefan , and all others .

Of anything that I might have said to further the truth , the only one that matters is the well thought and well composed message. It could be a sentence or a phrase.

Putting oneself in the other's position and thinking like them for a moment is the way to bridge opposing views .

Furthering . How did it come to you ,and how did you take it in ? Give it just like that , or sense what the other one wants or needs , and compose your message . Keep in mind that you are not roasting pidgeons .
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Kenneth
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NASA placed a message aboard Voyager 1 and 2-a kind of time capsule, intended to communicate a story of our world to extraterrestrials.

http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/spacecraft/goldenrec.html

In Contact Report 251, when Billy and Ptaah talked about Earthlings sending messages into deep space, saying that it was very dangerous:

“Throughout the past, the refugees' hide-out locations were kept secret from the "creator-overlords" in fear that once the overlords determined the refugees' location, they would send out punitive expeditions to eliminate the fugitives. This danger remains in existence even today and, consequently, the Americans were extremely careless in sending into space probes revealing data on the Earth's location and descriptions of human beings.” For location, the search word would be danger; the 1st of 34.

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_251

Stefan,
It would appear that sending these messages via radio and laser is basically the same thing, according to the Plejaren, very dangerous.

This reminds me of the 1979 Star Trek movie, VGER, which was actually Voyager 6

https://youtu.be/gxAaVqdz_Vk

Kenneth
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Joseph_emmanuel
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Do we know if the Plejarens have story books, as in literary novels, fantasy and science fiction, fairy tales, children's books, etc, or have they outgrown the need to be privately entertained in this way? And do we know anything about their arts, such as the theatre, art galleries and museums, exhibitions, music, film?

I'm interested to know what a civilised and advanced future would be like for us? Whether there are things we will not have and do, which we have and do now? I imagine celebrities, such as actors and singers may one day become a thing of the past.
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Corey
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~Some of the more compelling photographs of Plejaren beamships are the Hasenböl-Langenberg ob Fischenthal taken by Billy 29th of March 1976 (the year of my birth) of Semjase's newest beamship. These can be found on page 80-91 of the "Photo-Inventarium". Pages 58-79 are also pretty damn convincing and up there in my list, and I once bought one of the photos featured on pages 50-56 directly from Switzerland's book-shop.

-Pictures are worth 1,000 words, and can give one a new-found respect for the validity of the mission. In 100 years from the mission's inception, when the Nokodemion spirit-form will be responsible for helping to bring about a new thought-structure, people may buzz about how Plejaren came to visit Billy 100 years ago.
Salome/Corey Müske
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Michael_horn
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Thanks for the reminder, Corey. Coincidentally, FIGU has shipped me 6 more of the Photo-Inventarium, which can be found here:

http://www.theyfly.com/shop/products/index.html

..and should be arriving fairly soon.
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Joe
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Corey,

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but in the book "Photo-Inventarium" there are not only photos of Plejaren space-ships which are freely available to see on Michel Horn's theyfly.com website and also other FIGU related websites, but also there are photos which have NEVER before have been published in any other book?
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Joe
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Michael Horn,

In a recent interview you had said that George Noory from Coast to Coast AM was impressed when you were showing some photos of the Plejaren beamships, but for some reason the interview itself was never aired on television. But tell me something, the photos of the Plejaren beamships that you had showed him, were they actually from the book Photo-Inventarium?
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Michael_horn
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No, Joe, the photos were from my website, etc., and weren't of the quality of the ones in the Photo-Inventarium.

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