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Newinitiation
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Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2017 - 06:23 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gee Bill how's that for impulse contact.
Technically anyone who reads any of Billy and Plejaren material is in essence an impulse contactee and not just from the telenotic variety that they send to scientists like Michio Kaku.

Anyway some so called conspiracy theorists got it right in that the elite do have a plan to wipe out most of the people on earth.

Even Billy and Ptaah mentioned that when the overpopulation problem becomes untenable there is a possibility that the Dark Order of Darkness will implement their plan to kill off many people on earth.

Whether by fake ET invasion scenario, WW4, controlled pandemics, weather warfare, poisoning of water, foodstaff and air, silent attack with blanket of electromagnetic pulses on cities that give people cancer by cooking them slowly with microwaves etc what Joe from Michael's interview stated when he said that the military has already developed every conceivable contingency plan and even went on trial run on the general public rings true and the spurious news of an pandemic outbreak cannot all be attribute to natural causes.
No wonder so many Aussies are on drugs and have alcohol issues because unbeknownst to them secret experiments have taken place on the general public
and they are none the wiser.
So many zombified people nowadays and it can't just all be from being glued to their smartphones as I suspect even vitamin supplements are concocted with mind altering substances along with the food, water, softdrinks, fastfoods, medication, not to mention being bombarded with satellite based mind altering devices and just your usual homeware appliancrs like TV, computer monitors, as well as inaudible infrasonic sound pitches added to popular music.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Yes, Michelle, this - to analyse / discuss our daily news in view of the CRs - would be a good way to propagate the truth.
Q: How would the "powers to be" react to the "omens that our world cannot see"?

E.g. in 1945 when detonating the 1st nuclear bomb, the scientists did not know whether the nuclear reaction that followed would incinerate the atmosphere of our planet.
Billy estimates that there is a 50:50 chance that a similar posture is followed in developing HAARP *)
He quotes B. Estlund who said that the HAARP antenna installation is indeed a massive ray gun, capable of destroying not only all communication networks but also missiles, airplanes, satellites as well climatic catastrophes and unrestricted deadly radiation against which there is no protection..

Today we read about “microwaving” the digital equipment used for launching Kim’s rockets.

The dangers of living on our planet may not be seen - neither by Kim nor by many others.
But they are real.

Salome,

Bill

*)
Student of N. Tesla and HAARP inventor
Details see Billy’s report (based on data of the Plejaren Florena)
http://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_260 (CR 260:43-50)
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Friday, December 08, 2017 - 01:50 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Moderators - kindly change my previous mail to the following – Thank you.
=== Will there be a different thinking when everything is reduced to ash and rubble ? ===

You are quite right, Matt.

The basic problem we have is that not many of our leaders in religion, education, politics, science and commerce know, understand and follow the laws of our universe.

They were never taught the fundamental laws of universal life that underlie their daily work, their preaching, their teaching, their “law-making/ruling”, their researching and their trading.
And so they create excesses, they think they do good.

They create excesses for themselves, for their religion, for their country, for their faculty, for their business.
But they cannot see that each of their excesses immediately causes an exact opposite force to emerge.

They would look down on you when you tell them that we should see our life with a “synthesis in mind”, with “neutral-positive thoughts”.
Yes, they may accept that capitalism “breeds” communism and that after some time a synthesis “grows” – that e.g. communist countries become more “capitalistic” and capitalist countries become more “social”.

But they think you are trying to sell them “cheap averages” instead of “seeking excellence” when you tell them that all creation in this universe is - and all creative thoughts are - based on the meeting and balancing of opposite forces.

And so they live in their world of principles for superheroes, in religion, in politics, in money-making - educating and admiring personal, academic and national pride(s).

Yes, they, too, seek and invent.
But their thoughts and inventions “become” weapons – "good weapons", weapons for “defence purposes”...
Their prides, their “excellence” the silent guides to catastrophes *), rebellions and wars.

How many wars, how many catastrophes have happened – how many must happen – before Earth humans have the courage to think differently?

Salome,

Bill

*)
What motivated man to discover nuclear power, or H.? What effects may we then expect?

E.g. CR from Feb 1998 / see CR 260:167–168 (bottom quarter of the report)
http://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_260

"... the El Nino pattern is a naturally occurring event...but through human (H.) experiments, ...the naturally working forces “de-generated” and – “the whole thing increasingly changes more and more into a destructive/catastrophic factor whereby the naturally working forces … become surpassed and accumulated by the anti-natural (human-generated) forces..”
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Scott
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Posted on Friday, December 08, 2017 - 08:36 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Please lets get back to the topic heading.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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=== Will there be a different thinking when everything is reduced to ash and rubble ? ===

You are quite right, Matt.

The basic problem we have is that not many of our leaders in religion, education, politics, science and commerce know, understand and follow the laws of our universe.

They were never taught the fundamental laws of universal life that underlie their daily work, their preaching, their teaching, their “law-making/ruling”, their researching and their trading.
And so they create excesses, they think they do good.

They create excesses for themselves, for their religion, for their country, for their faculty, for their business.
But they cannot see that each of their excesses immediately causes an exact opposite force to emerge.

They would look down on you when you tell them that we should see our life with a “synthesis in mind”, with “neutral-positive thoughts”.
Yes, they may accept that capitalism “breeds” communism and that after some time a synthesis “grows” – that e.g. communist countries become more “capitalistic” and capitalist countries become more “social”.

But they think you are trying to sell them “cheap averages” instead of “seeking excellence” when you tell them that all creation in this universe is - and all creative thoughts are - based on the meeting and balancing of opposite forces.

And so they live in their world of principles for superheroes, in religion, in politics, in money-making - educating and admiring personal, academic and national pride(s).

Yes, they, too, seek and invent.
But their thoughts and inventions “become” weapons – "good weapons", for “defence purposes”...
Their prides, their “excellence” the silent guides to rebellions and wars.

How many wars have happened – how many must happen – before Earth humans have the courage to think differently?

Salome,

Bill

NB

This topic is about CRs.
What do they really want to tell us?
That we should read them as signposts to bring back the truth.

Though they may seem hurtful – they only want to teach us to think differently - before everything is - again - reduced to ash and rubble …
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2017 - 07:28 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From Bulletin 30

Im riesigen Intrigen-Netzwerk der CIA sitzt diese selbst als fette Spinne, wobei auch alle anderen US-Geheimdienste damit verstrickt sind, und wobei von diesen - inklusive der CIA - in erster Linie alles darauf ausgerichtet ist, nicht nur die US-amerikanischen B�rger, sondern die ganze Welt und jeden einzelnen Menschen auf der Erde auszuspionieren und auszuhorchen, und zwar nicht nur direkt sowie �ber denunzierende Nachbarn, Bekannte und Freunde, sondern auch �ber das Telephon, �ber Funk und Internet.

Like a fat spider, the CIA sits in its giant network of intrigue, whereby also all the other US secret services are thereby entangled, and whereby from this, in the first instance, everything - including the CIA - is aligned not only to spy on, and listen to, the USAmerican citizens, rather the entire world and every single human on the Earth, and indeed not only directly, as with neighbors, acquaintances and friends acting as informers, rather also over the telephone, over radio transmissions and the Internet.

Now making everything related to communication digital for commercial purposes as a natural progression of technological innovation and progress is something that I find hard to believe.

Somewhere within someone's reasoning for killing off the analogue system lies the intent to basically control the world and to make that possible you need to spy on the masses.

The WIFI technology has developed leaps and bounds and I suspect that the drive to wifi everything is one of the keys to controlling the masses thereby the CIA dominating the world.

Even if you turn off your data and wifi on your electronic devices it appears that there exists a secret wifi system that actually works behind the scene to capture all the relevent data and suck all the information up and deliver it straight to the NSA and then to langley.

Teltra air for example is everywhere and so are the obnoxious forest of wifi towers even within close proximity to schools and childcare centres.

Obviously there are positives to technology that we rely on everyday but more and more as the years progress and with it technical progress and development the more that its used for the purposes of spying on people.

CIA runs legitimate front businesses and have enormous fiancial resources icluding black money to do just about anything that they wish.
Imagine what kind of technology that they have at their disposal today and why this mass surveillance grid and internet of all things are purposefully geared towards something more than just mass spying but more importantly imbedding within RFID chips a termination or kill switch to eventually imbed them inside people for mass population reduction as one among many avenues that the Dark order of darkness will take to bring about their crazy final solution.

The legacies of project paperclip boils down to this rotten NAZI ideology of getting rid of everyone not favourable to their goals.

Matt lee
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Friday, December 15, 2017 - 12:08 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

“Independent Thinking”

The latest ZZ publishes a meeting with Ptaah in which Billy mentions his “foresights” ^) for our time.

The CR (691) starts with a review of the “maddening” state our world is in.
It describes the nature of our human society and the built-up of a class struggle - sounding very much like a prologue to the Communist Manifesto (“… the history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles …”).
But in truth Billy wants to encourage a new way of thinking - the need to educate a seeking mind, for mankind to “think independently”:

The more people populate our planet the more they procreate.
And this makes the administration and provision of services harder and harder.

Public services (public transport/doctors’ surgeries etc) are constantly reduced – those that remain charge higher and higher fees.
This does not hit the super-rich with their exorbitant increases in their (CEOs', football stars' etc) salaries – they are getting richer on a grand scale, But the increased charges do hit the working-class people and pensioners – making them an easy target for the super-rich to take advantage of.

In this way the super-rich can exploit the working-class people in a legal way.
The working-class people (WCP), being educated to receive orders and execute them end up being serfs.

It is unfortunate that the WCP have become used that others (incl. political parties ) “do the thinking” for them:
„The people of today have lost all their initiatives, they no longer defend themselves, or – in the most extreme emergency – only then when they have nothing left which would be worth defending.” *)

And should they happen to awake from their lethargy they will freak out into blind [uncontrollable] rage, become fanatic and lose all reasoning.
„In this state one could only hope that – after the unavoidable [inevitable] degenerations [Ausartungen] something remains in force and that ultimately common sense and reason will prevail.” **)

A change for the better may not only require the right reaction (reason/common sense prevails) of the working-class people but that the small group of superrich have to face a world which they no longer can control with their financial powers ***).

In such a situation it should be regulated that the people of our planet are no longer governed by capitalism but that the people determine the affairs / events in our world in a real democratic manner – with equality for everyone – as well with regards to remunerations … “…lest some must languish in poverty and misery while others can rejoice and live gloriously.” ****)

In order to bring about this change:
“... the entire human population resp. all mankind must finally learn to think independently and clearly - they must not delegate their thinking to authorities and political parties and the financially powerful but strive to think independently on their very own account [initiative].” ****)

Such independent thinking arises when a human
- seeks, collects, absorbs information from as many sources as possible
- then compares them with each other
- and draws his own conclusions
Independent thinking is not only desirable but must be the desire/duty of every human, everyone must demand it of himself and learn it from a young age on:
People that cannot think independently are generally not capable to recognize independent thinking in others. They may not question the opinions of others but simply accept them without much thought and live in the delusion these opinions are correct and/or are their own.

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I take Billy’s prologue to his predictions as an affirmation that ultimately it is the thoughts, the consciousness of our planet that creates the world we live in:
Instead of following a blind belief in superiority, man should be educated to “think independently” as this will guarantee his independence.
Ultimately it is his thoughts of balance and equality that will level the excesses and create an environment/world of peace and harmony around him.

Salome,

Bill

^) It would make this article to "lengthy" to include the “foresights” in this report.

*) German: “Die Menschen von heute sind völlig initiativelos geworden, folgedem verteidigen sie sich auch nicht mehr, oder im äussersten Notfall erst dann, wenn sie nichts mehr haben, was sich für sie zu verteidigen lohnen würde.“
**) German: “Zu hoffen ist in diesem Zustand dann nur noch, dass nach den unvermeidbaren Ausartungen wenigstens noch etwas bestehen bleibt und letztendlich Verstand und Vernunft doch wieder siegen..“
***) [This may well happen: Each excess becomes the root of an opposite excess – so that ultima-tely a balance, a synthesis forms – a balance which is in line with the objective of all universal laws ]
****) German: „ …damit nicht die einen arm und im Elend dahinsiechen müssen, während die andern steinreich und in Herrlichkeit frohlocken und leben können.“
*****) German: „Also muss die gesamte irdische Bevölkerung resp. die ganze Menschheit endlich selbständig und klar denken lernen, und nicht von den Obrigkeiten und den Politparteien sowie von den Kapitalmächtigen denken lassen, sondern sich in ureigener Regie um das selbständige Denken bemühen.“
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Dear Moderators,
Though the article is a little long, kindly publish it:
The “length” is necessary to explain Billy’s thoughts.
Thank you.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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=== Re. CR 691 - Before Reading Billy’s Foresights / CR 691 ===

Billy first assures the reader that most of those governing the countries – political leaders and civil servants – are good, righteous people and that the great majority of laws they created or follow are thoroughly justified and in order.

So he only denounces those who exercise their powers for their own benefit/profit rather than the welfare and peace of the people and he only condemns/rejects those laws and directives that are illogical, misanthropic and liberticidal. But living a peaceful life is not a given any more due to the continual rise in criminality and the steadily increasing and more and more widespread terrorism, anarchism, racial and religious hatred and family break-ups.

He mentions that according to his calculations the probability that these events will happen is between 34 and 56 %. But this percentage reflects the current status. If the current trend continues these percentages may increase.

Naturally some or all calamities can be prevented – esp if the governments introduce a birth control/stop, true democracies based on the will of all citizens and remove all corrupt/unrighteous elements within the governments.
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Newinitiation
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Bill as far as I see it calamities are par for the course necessary element in human being's development and progress and the bigger they are the better it is unfortunately.
As sadomasochistic as it sounds this is the only way that people learn as history has shown since time immemorial.
Local councils get sued by people for injuries sustained from them walking on pavements that have divots and then and only then do they erect sign posts warning people of the dangers thereby absolving them of legal responsibilities and they can save their arses from further legal actions against them.
People must die in the workplace before new safety laws are enacted and potential harzards are controlled.
Tsunamis must kill, injure and decimate an entire city and people before better barriers and wave breakers are put in place.
Earthquakes must be so devastating and scores of buildings must come down before the building codes are improved and laws are passed for new and existing buildings and skyscrapers to be built and modified to be earthquake proof.
Floods must sweep away and kill dozens of people before the authorities and citizens create better awareness and emergency evacuation plans.
Forestfires must burn down countless homes and mass casualties must ensue from it before the residents listen to authorities to get the hell out of there when they are told to evacuate.
Swimmers must drown in droves before people realise not to venture outside of the flags when on the beach for a swim.
Terrorist shootings, bombings and motor vehicle rampage must kill a lot of people before people finally realise you don't have to go to the new years eve fireworks nor the boxing day shopping fest in order to be happy and deemed a winner by not letting the terrorist win by not disrupting their so called 'way of life'
False flag operations must happen many many times and kill so many people before people understand what they are and bring those who are truly responsible to justice.
Corporations and corporate heads must squeeze the middle class and steal even more from them by depressing their wages and charging more for their servics before people finally wake up to the scam and stop buying anything from multinational corporations.
So the bottom line is it appears as if misery, pain, suffering, hunger, destitution, poverty, hurt, illness, catastrophe, accidents, death, injury and so on is the only factors that teach the human beings the undetstanding of the laws of cause and effect because it has to be directly felt, experienced and perceived in order to compel them to change their ways for the better.
This includes the psychopathic and sociopathic ruling elites.


Matt lee

Matt lee
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Kenneth
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Bill,

You said; The latest ZZ publishes a meeting with Ptaah. Maybe I've missed something? Can you clarify what "ZZ" means?

Thanks
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Corey
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Hello Bill (Tat_tvam_asi),

In reflection of your post #745 and #746 regarding your summary of the latest ZZ.

I like what was stated in the following three points:

change for the better may not only require the right reaction (reason/common sense prevails) of the working-class people but that the small group of superrich have to face a world which they no longer can control with their financial powers ***).

In such a situation it should be regulated that the people of our planet are no longer governed by capitalism but that the people determine the affairs / events in our world in a real democratic manner – with equality for everyone – as well with regards to remunerations … “…lest some must languish in poverty and misery while others can rejoice and live gloriously.” ****)

In order to bring about this change:
“... the entire human population resp. all mankind must finally learn to think independently and clearly - they must not delegate their thinking to authorities and political parties and the financially powerful but strive to think independently on their very own account [initiative].” ****)

*****) German: „Also muss die gesamte irdische Bevölkerung resp. die ganze Menschheit endlich selbständig und klar denken lernen, und nicht von den Obrigkeiten und den Politparteien sowie von den Kapitalmächtigen denken lassen, sondern sich in ureigener Regie um das selbständige Denken bemühen.“

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I also like what was stated in the following point:

Naturally some or all calamities can be prevented – esp if the governments introduce a birth control/stop, true democracies based on the will of all citizens and remove all corrupt/unrighteous elements within the governments.

In summation the calamity mentioned would be: But living a peaceful life is not a given any more due to the continual rise in criminality and the steadily increasing and more and more widespread terrorism, anarchism, racial and religious hatred and family break-ups. About all I would add is the forthcoming calamity that will be upon us from the effects of overpopulation in the form of natural disasters//death//destruction.

I think your posts show the true need for true democracies and independent thinking for all on the planet Earth, and the need for birth-stoppage.

I have always said that after studying the spiritual teaching, I realize our disobedience, disregarding, and aversion of the natural laws and recommendations of the Creation (aversion of them) will be our greatest downfall. These natural laws and recommendations are finally revealed by the works of BEAM/FIGU, and if we do not collectively change it will take nature's re-equalization measures to put us back in the natural normalcy (which equals = death from natural catastrophes for the people), and if we consider the other events that will transpire because we do not have true democracies nor independent thinking, events such as: the continual rise in criminality and the steadily increasing and more and more widespread terrorism, anarchism, racial and religious hatred and family break-ups that will occur between 34-56% in addition to all the predicted natural catastrophes [Sfath's 1948 predictions] that will occur in the future due to our overpopulation levels we could be in for a very evil time. I would just like to add to your worthy observations of the birth-control/stoppage, in addition to this action we would also need to collectively perfect our banishment practices, and collectively perfect our gewaltsame Gewaltlosigkeit to bring resolvement to these events.

I will have to read the ZZ to see all the other foresights Meier set down in writing in contact #691.~

If we do not collectively change for the better like Meier outlined in contact #691 that Bill highlighted with his summary, that I put the four points in italics in this post, then if we do not change then it will be a damn shame because we could have avoided some of the upcoming disasters//death//destruction, plus brought resolvement to all the other negatives such as potential burgeoning terrorism, family break-ups, etc.
Salome/Corey Müske. -"Goblet of the Truth" page 488 & 489 (theme of overpopulation and not following what is natural):
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27:62 "Ihr habt nur die Wahl, euch aus euren selbsterschaffenen Verstrickungen zu befreien und der Wahrheit der Schöpfung sowie ihren Gesetzen und Geboten Folge zu leisten – oder unterzugehen."

27:62 "You only have the choice to liberate yourselves out of your self-created entanglements and to follow the truth of the Creation as well as its laws and recommendations – or to go under."
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Joseph_emmanuel
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Matt

I'm not sure that I go along with your interpretation of the development and progress of the human being through pain and misery. I agree that mistakes are essential to our learning and, therefore, to our development and progress, but I don't agree that catastrophes and calamities, as you have laid it out, are necessary elements of that factor.

The thing that really bothers me about what you have said, and how you have said it, is that it is akin to the Puritanical belief that we were put on earth to suffer and not to enjoy life. If only you had made some reference to pleasure and beauty as necessary human pursuits in order to balance it all out. As it is, one is almost afraid to walk outside one's front door.

On an individual level, the mistakes we make in order to learn are not as catastrophic as you have listed, and it is as individuals that real progress is made collectively. Surely we should be looking at it from this perspective.
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Tyler
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"ZZ" means "Zeit Zeichen". It's the newsletter that the FIGU puts out on the Swiss web site.
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Kenneth
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Tyler,

The Zeit Zeichen newsletter from FIGU, of course.

Thank you
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Tat_tvam_asi
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You are right, Corey, there truly is a need for true democracies and independent thinking for all on the planet Earth, and the need for birth-stoppage.

Yes, Billy’s prologue to his foresights, in which he tells people how to think independently and not to delegate thinking – it expresses Billy’s deepest wish – that we, “N’s erring tribes” – find back to the quickest path of evolution – that we proceed with the insight that our fate is in our own hands.

Yes, our creativity should be with the thought of the brotherhood of man – we may be many, but we are one…

Yes, Billy’s foresights and CRs are signposts, they should make mankind aware of emerging dangers.
Their true objective: To consider ways that these dangers do not come true. *)

Billy’s advice will promote a positive change when It is read without any hate.
Like a friend telling us of emerging dangers, why they are, where we go wrong and what we can do that the dangers do not come true.

Salome,

Bill

*)
And we know from Ptaah that Billy’s CRs are read by many.
We know they can promote a turn towards the positive:
- E.g. the endeavours of the Gates foundation re. birth control
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Re. No. 32 of my previous post:
The dispossession mentioned here relates to the population of a “specific country and other countries”.
It has nothing to do with the expropriation of people as a consequence of the coming global financial crisis mentioned in No. 30.

(As mentioned – I left out the names of nations to prevent any thoughts of hate)
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Bill your previous post is way too long, if you could break it up into smaller sections we can then post it, please also include the German. Thank you

An Afterthought …

Atlant was said to be tall, blue-eyed, white-skinned, broad shouldered and to have blue eyes.
These physical Plejaren features could as well describe many northern Germans and Danes.
And does not the “Angeln” peninsula on the border between Germany and Denmark “tell” us that the people living there looked like the “angels” – in memoriam of the “heavenly people” i.e. ETs flying to/from Earth?

Atlant was said to be kind, generous and sharing our planet with other races.
And today’s Scandinavians are Europe’s most tolerant, friendly and peace-loving people.

But some 15000 years after Atlant a different Plejaren “arrived” who was called (Arus) the ‘Barbarian’ for a good reason.
He was cruel, cunning and his greed for power put our planet on a path of destruction.
He may have died a long time ago but his ideas lived on long after he died …

CR70:173-174:
“Among the very distant descendants of Arus” there existed – in the North - till the time of Jehav (who ruled till 1343 BCE), 160,000 “elements… who named themselves the Great Aryans” and who still advocated the ideas of Arus I. They wandered “plundering” from the NW to the East …
CR 70 says they finally went into the lands that Arus II took from the Sumerians (India, Pakistan, Persia). Maybe some stayed on in the North, the home of the Vikings as their “Great Aryans’-like” habit “to (kill, enslave and) plunder” would indicate. **)

But it was not just the Vikings - Arus’ mind-set – via the Gize Intel - left a world wide legacy - even today our planet is on a path of destruction. ***)

It is the “idealisation and self-image of superiority” that stands in the way of world peace and unity:
It prioritizes policies driven by "excessive greed", “cunning diplomacy” and "domination over others".
It prevents a united effort to masterthe great problems mankind faces (overpopulation/climate change/threat of meteors etc.).

Maybe mankind ****) unwittingly re-creates a climax similar to that on June 6, 9498 BCE.
Maybe the opportunity to respond with the wisdom to master it peacefully is a necessary step for our planetary consciousness to grow

Yes, I have written this because our world is more “on the brink" than many think.

Salome,

Bill
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*)
The rule of Nor(se)mans in England may not quite match the parricides of Jehavon, Jehav and Arussem. Yet deadly family feuds were very common (fr. the sons of William I to the War of the Roses)
**)
Norse mythology is filled w. many “Arus like” violent/hate/revenge-filled events -from start to end:
Odin (and his brothers) kill their grandfather Ymir to create the world from his body parts, malicious Loki (god of mischief), the praise of fallen warriors etc. etc. – in the end all the heroes brutally perish.
Maybe their mythological idols inspired them to be the “terror from the sea” for so many European cities.
***)
(Apart from the yellow and blue races) Earthlings are descendants of Arus subleaders.
Which may explain their inborn ambition “to subdue and dominate” – the Aztecs sacrificing 25,000 humans to their gods, our world’s many wars and persecutions – the thoughts underpinning colonialism and the slave trade - the holocaust of a Gize-Thule(Hanussen)-deluded AH:
The higher caste like phrase "superior Arian Race” – does it not point to the “Great Aryans” mentioned in CR70 - the Indo Aryans that established the Indian caste system there?).
****)
According to Edgar Cayce ca. 43 % of the people he gave a reading to, had an incarnation in Atlantis.}

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Extract of Billy's Foresights ---- Potential Financial/Economical Developments ----

NB
Billy mentions 42 potential developments (No.2 to 43) which - if they all were to come true – may lead the P.E. to the insight that they can only retain their power via a drastic reduction of overpopulation (No.1) - *)

Below are the 14 (of the 42) events that rel. to financial/economic developments which would precede the introduction of these measures. Most of these events would be felt worldwide.
(Only a few rel. to specific countries… They are blanked out so as to keep it the report a-political and to prevent any thoughts of national bias/hate.)

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We should keep in mind Billy's introductory remarks i.p. that the great majority of world's rulers are righteous people and their laws are thoroughly justified.
With this in mind there is a good propspect that the major powers will decide humanely and with the knowledge that what they do to others they do indeed to themselves.
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22.Raw materials will become so scarce that countries will wage wars – using their deadly nuclear weapons unscrupulously.
27.The unstoppable overpopulation and the variety of all the mismanaged economical systems will continuously increase the unemployment figures and reach unprecedented levels
28.In all sectors of the economy the wages of the employed will sink deeply and cause immense financial problems in all sections of the working-class world – the whole social system will be damaged and collapse and it will create criminality everywhere
29.Speculators will cause a global and financial crisis like never before.
It will disrupt the entire financial industry – resulting in a great shortage of economical goods/assets.
30. As a result of the global financial crisis the … populations are to be expropriated. This will enrage the people. Some will take up arms. The police/military will suppress them with evil force.
31. A planned ban of cash is supposed to hit/expropriate the populations but [it will not hit] the ruling/superrich elites [which] are able to enjoy a lavish life style,
To “re-organize” the sovereign debt of all countries the entire global financial system is to be overturned in order to newly order the existing national debts - this will be done in a way that it only damages [hits] the populations.
There are already secret plans for a war which will be cited as the reason for the GFC. This war - if it really comes to it - will be blamed on … .
If this war should eventuate one of its derivatives will be a martial law which will fully expropriate the outraged and – by military and police forces - suppressed populations.
32. ---- (.... countries which already are/become open spaces “teeming with criminality” …)
33. There may be [focused] efforts to expropriate … and other countries.
34. National pension bodies will run out of financial resources and will no longer be able to disburse pension payments as a consequence of the increase in life expectancies of the aging and because of the increase in the no. of payments because of overpopulation and because – as a whole – the cost of living increases and with it the demand for pension monies - the payment of which becomes more and more doubtful.
35. Many countries will experience [suffer] pecuniary distress/hardship through non-sensical [inappropriate] financial expenditures [fin. expenditures that make no sense] which overburden them and cause the unavoidable bankruptcy [ies] and the break-[melt-] down of the total structure of [their] states, banks and economies.
36. All over the world the social systems will collapse, causing more and more people to fall into poverty, receiving no sickness benefits/care and die from hunger and misery because they cannot finance any longer their livelihoods and provide for their own nourishment and health
41. [Those] ruling and financial PE which preside over the populations with a lax, elitist, greedy, selfish, power-hungry, autocratic attitude will no longer feel safe about their life – they will need to defend their life and possessions – to do so it will be necessary that they are protected by bodyguards or even mercenary troops.
42. [Th.] Ruling elites and the moneyed aristocracy together with corrupt politicians will create globally totalitarian and dictatorial surveillance states in order to uphold their rule.
43. The financial world promotes capitalism – the longer, the more [stronger] – [but] in the end the whole will degenerate into a nationalistic / Fascist fashion in order to prevent and sterilise [repel] the appearance of any emerging systems that oppose c.
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*) First part of CR 692 (Oct 29, 2017): http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/15877.html#POST84137
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NB Below the full German text. The according English texts are more a summary – not a 1:1 translation.
There may be mistakes in the translation.

German Original:
22. Die Rohstoffe werden zu derart raren Materialien werden, dass die Staaten ausartende Kriege um diese auslösen und führen werden, wobei ganz besonders gewisse grossmächtige Atommächte ihre tödlichen Waffen skrupellos einsetzen werden.
27. Die unaufhaltsam wachsende Überbevölkerung und die gesamten misswirtschaftlichen Systeme aller Art und auf allen Gebieten werden weiterhin weltweit die Arbeitslosenzahlen in die Höhe treiben und Formen erreichen, die ungeheure Probleme hervorrufen werden, wie dies bei keinen früheren Arbeitslosenzeiten der Fall gewesen war.
28. In der gesamten Wirtschaft werden die Entlohnungen für die Arbeitnehmenden sehr tief absinken und ungeheure finanzielle Probleme in allen Bevölkerungsschichten der Arbeiterwelt hervorrufen, wobei auch das ganze Sozialwesen Schaden erleiden, zusammenbrechen und rundum auch die rapid steigende Kriminalität ungeheure Probleme hervorrufen wird.
29. Durch Spekulanten wird eine globale Finanz- und Wirtschaftskrise hervorgerufen werden, wie es eine solche zuvor niemals gegeben hat, folgedem auch die gesamte Finanzwirtschaft in grosse Not geraten und auch viel Unheil und grosser Mangel in bezug auf Wirtschaftsgüter entstehen wird.
30. Auch in den USA soll die Bevölkerung als Folge der weltweiten Finanzkrise enteignet werden, was dazu führen wird, dass gegen die aufgebrachte und teils schwerbewaffnete Bevölkerung durch Militär- und Polizeikräfte mit böser Gewalt vorgegangen wird.
31. Das geplante Bargeldverbot soll die Enteignung der Bevölkerungen herbeiführen, wobei jedoch die Elite der Regierenden und des Kapitalismus ihrerseits in Freuden und Herrlichkeit ‹schwimmen› können. Und es soll das gesamte Finanzsystem auf der ganzen Welt umgestürzt werden, um damit auch alle bestehenden Staatsschulden aller Länder neu zu ordnen, und zwar in der Weise, dass allgemein allein die Bevölkerungen der Staaten zu Schaden kommen. Bereits bestehen in den USA und in der EU-Diktatur geheime Pläne, um von Deutschland aus einen Krieg gegen Russland zu starten, der als Grund für die gesamte aufkommende weltweite Krise genannt werden soll. Und dass dabei dann die Schuld für diesen Krieg den Russen zugeschoben werden soll, natürlich völlig zu Unrecht – wenn er tatsächlich zustande kommt –, das ist von vornherein klar. Und erfolgt dieser Krieg tatsächlich, dann wird daraus ein Kriegsrecht abgeleitet, das die aufgebrachte Bevölkerung – die völlig enteignet werden wird – durch starke und rücksichtslose Militär- und Polizeikräfte unterdrückt.
32. Bereits heute existieren Länder, die in Wahrheit nur noch sogenannten Nominalstaaten entsprechen und die effectiv keine selbständige Staaten mehr sind, sondern nur noch dem Namen nach als solche existieren und selbst keinerlei eigene Staatsgewalt mehr haben. Grundsätzlich handelt es sich dabei einzig um offene Gebiete, die von kriminellen Banden wimmeln und von Guerillakämpfern und Warlords beherrscht werden. Auch Europa entspricht einem Gebiet, das von Kriminalität und Verbrechertum besudelt ist, zudem aber auch von der EU-Diktatur beherrscht wird, die eine hochgefährliche Diktatur darstellt, die sehr viel zur Instabilität der internationalen Politik beiträgt und auch ein Ausgangspunkt und zugleich Spielball des internationalen Terrorismus ist, und von wo zukünftig durch militärische Gewalt Bedrohungen ausgehen werden. Doch von der EU-Diktatur gehen auch kriminelle und verbrecherische Machenschaften durch Kriminelle und Verbrecher aus – und werden in Zukunft in vermehrtem Mass ausgehen –, wie Drogen-, Menschen- und Waffenhandel, wobei je länger, je mehr keine Ordnung zustande gebracht werden kann.
33. Es werden Bemühungen in Erscheinung treten, Griechenlands Bevölkerung zu enteignen, wie dasselbe bei Gelegenheit auch mit anderen Staaten versucht werden wird.
34. Die Rentenanstalten werden keine Rentenzahlungen mehr ausschütten können, weil ihnen die finanziellen Mittel ausgehen, und zwar einerseits infolge der höheren Alterung der Rentenbezüger, anderseits weil diese durch die ansteigende Masse der Überbevölkerung immer mehr werden und gesamthaft auch die Lebens erhaltungskosten steigen und damit auch der Rentenbedarf, dessen Erhöhung und gar Auszahlung jedoch immer fraglicher werden wird.
35. Viele Staaten werden durch unsinnige finanzielle Ausgaben und Überbelastungen in pekuniäre Not geraten, wodurch die gesamten Staatsgebilde und Banken sowie die Wirtschaft infolge unvermeidbaren Bankrotts zusammenbrechen werden.
36. Weltweit werden alle Sozialsysteme kollabieren, wodurch dann immer mehr Menschen tiefster Armut verfallen, keine Krankenfürsorge mehr geniessen können und auch des Hungers und Elends sterben werden, weil sie ihren gesamten Lebensunterhalt und also auch die eigene Ernährung und Gesundheit nicht mehr finanzieren können.
41. Die Regierenden und Finanzmächtigen, die lasch und falsch sowie elitehaft, machtgierig, selbstsüchtig und selbstherrlich über die Bevölkerungen herrschen, werden ihres Lebens nicht mehr sicher und gezwungen sein, ihr Leben sowie ihr Hab und Gut zu verteidigen, was nur möglich sein wird – wenn überhaupt –, wenn sie sich durch Bodyguards oder gar eigene Söldnertrupps schützen lassen.
42. Die Eliten der Regierenden und des Geldadels werden zusammen mit korrupten Politikern weltweite totale und diktatorische Überwachungsstaaten erschaffen und damit ihre Herrschaft wahren.
43. Die Finanzwelt fördert den Kapitalismus je länger, je mehr, wobei das Ganze in nationalistischer Form resp. faschistischer Weise ausarten wird, um eventuell andere in Erscheinung tretende und wider den Kapitalismus entstehende Systeme zu verhindern und im Keim zu ersticken.
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ERRARE HUMANUM EST …

I just realized that my mails 745 and 746 refer to "CR 691" – it should have been CR 692.
Sorry for the mishap.

Bill
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Joseph as it stands most of the social progress were made on the backs of people dying whether from disease, man made and natural disasters, accidents, wars, revolutions, protests and so forth.

Matt lee
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Tat_tvam_asi, thanks!
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You are welcome, Hugo.
Salome, Bill
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Some of Billy’s Foresights from CR 692
My translation, there may be mistakes

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A. Billy’s Foresights 2 to 5
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2. Generally, there exist already [are already underway] very complicated changes in the world today – and they will widen in the near future - changes, that have political, financial (capitalist), military, economic and civic implications [consequences] provoked by the incapacity of the inept who – through wrong decisions, mismanagement , power claims on other countries and through the suppression of freedom and peace - give, in many ways, rise to riots and revolts.

3. In general, the world’s small and big nations will arm themselves militarily – in unprecedented numbers - with the most advanced weapons – and by doing so they all will – instead of protecting freedom, peace and security – conjure [increase] more and more the great danger of quarrels with neighbouring countries and armed conflicts and wars.

4. In general, all over the world anarchist groups within the population will launch more and more heavy attacks on Police HQ, demanding as well human lives along with the destruction of state property – which may eventually lead to military interventions against the resp. groupings if the security forces cannot come to terms with them.

5. China will now as well, in addition to the US and Russia, assume a position in world politics, it will leave its status of being only a passive, observing looker-on since the Korean War and changes into a self-confident major and world power and a resurgent Chinese nation with an impressively prosperous economy and the Socialist Republic of China will make no secret of its ambitions as a leading and major power on the global political stage and it will massively upgrade its military strength.

German (Full text):
2. Allgemein bestehen bereits heute in der ganzen Welt äusserst komplizierte Veränderungen und weiten sich in kommender Zeit aus, die staatliche, politische, kapitalistische, militärische, wirtschaftliche und bürgerschaftliche Tragweiten haben, hervorgerufen durch das Machtgebaren Unfähiger, die durch Falschentscheidungen, Misswirtschaft, Machtansprüche auf andere Länder, Unterdrückung der Freiheit und des Friedens in mancherlei Hinsicht in den eigenen Staaten usw. Grund zu Aufständen und Revolten geben.
3. Die kleinen und grossen Staaten in der ganzen Welt werden in bisher nie gekanntem Mass militärisch mit modernsten Waffen aufrüsten, wodurch statt Frieden, Freiheit und Sicherheit das Ganze allgemein immer mehr zur grossen Gefahr für Streiterei mit Nachbarstaaten und für Waffengänge und Kriege werden wird.
4. Allgemein werden in der ganzen Welt aus anarchistischen Gruppierungen der Bevölkerungen heraus immer mehr schwere Angriffe auf die Polizeiorgane erfolgen und auch Menschenleben fordern, nebst dem Entstehen von Zerstörungen von staatlichem Eigentum, was letztendlich unter Umständen auch zu militärischen Eingriffen gegen die entsprechenden Gruppierungen führen kann, wenn die Sicherheitsorgane dieser nicht mehr Herr werden.
5. Nebst den USA und Russland erhebt sich nun auch China in die Position der Weltpolitik und verlässt nunmehr seit dem Korea-Krieg seine bisherige traditionelle, rein beobachtende, passive und zuschauende Position und wandelt sich zur selbstbewussten Gross- und Weltmacht und zur wieder aufblühenden neuen chinesischen Nation mit einer eindrucksvoll steigenden Wirtschaft, wobei die sozialistische Volksrepublik China auf der weltpolitischen Bühne keinen Hehl mehr aus ihren Ambitionen als Führungsmacht und Gross macht usw. machen und in jeder Beziehung in grossem Umfang auch militärisch massiv aufrüsten wird.

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