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Hoota_thunk
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Posted on Friday, March 09, 2018 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm going to go way out on the extremity of this limb and say that Creation has an organ that has become cancerous and is going to heal itself!
I understand that the organ has it within itself to self-heal, but this cancer came about after 6 previous attempts to prevent this from even being a possibility. If every cell in the organ is orientated and committed to what is necessary for success, happy days, if not, guess what!
Prisons are full of only those who were caught! And some innocent ones, no doubt!
Andrew Grimshaw
- The Silent Revolution Of Truth -
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Kenneth
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Corey,

“I think the projected "wall of death" that will move westward (besides Europe) could also reach North Africa. Perhaps it should be evacuated as well”

North Africa has approximately 175 million people; where are they going to go?

Kenneth
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Kenneth
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Posted on Friday, March 09, 2018 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Corey,

You asked; “What are the projected repercussions if Apophis strikes?”
Well for one thing, it appears that the Eurasian Tectonic Plate will be cracked open exposing the caldera magma underneath, causing a massive eruption. Ostensibly this could be worse than when the asteroid wiped out Atlantis over 11,500 years ago.

“What sort of outcome could we anticipate in a negative-wise?”
Everything that we can talk about will be theoretical at this point! Other than the fact that Apophis will stick Earth. So… Theoretically, this could tilt the planet even more off from its current axis? We can also expect massive changes worldwide. Other than hundreds of millions of human deaths, also most animal species will be wiped out. Maybe even another ice-age due to debris of all kinds blocking the suns warmth?

“Could it prevent casualties to fully evacuate Europe and Eastern Europe?”
As of 2016, in Europe alone there were 739 million people. Asia, 4.44 billion which includes Russia. Where are you going to put these folks? Do we really expect other governments to close up shop and live in a spare room for rent in another country?

“What makes you so sure the strike could completely ""reset" our planetary civilization??”
Apophis is ~375 meters (~1,230 Ft.) wide. Look what an asteroid evidently did to the planet when dinosaurs roamed the Earth? The destruction, ~65 million years ago, was so great it left most of the Earth a wasteland, shrouded in dust, constantly cold and effectively devoid of all life and vegetation.

According to the Plejaren/Billy; in paraphrasing, if Earthlings do nothing about Apophis or are unsuccessful in changing its course, it will strike Earth.

Billy predicted back in 1981 that Apophis would be discovered, in 2004 that happened. In 1980 Billy predicted that the correct Pi number would be discovered,(calculating correct orbits) in 2018 that happened.

“If it strikes, Europe and Eastern Europe will need one hell of a future recovery operation”
In this statement, one would think that other continents on Earth will not be effected? In my opinion, this is not realistic.

“(one can only assume they will be completely destroyed [we have to evacuate the entire area])”
Evacuation is not an option. Billy has already stated that there will be no place to run too or to hide.

Kenneth
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Kenneth
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Posted on Friday, March 09, 2018 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Corey,

"Europe/Eastern Europe/North Africa/Western Russia/etc., by a complete evacuation..."

A complete evacuation of hundreds of millions is not an option! Terrorist and refugees are not being properly controlled or dealt with now; don't see this happening in the next few years.

Kenneth
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Friday, March 09, 2018 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Corey good to see your presence here again hope everything is well with you and various challenges you are facing at the moment.

Anyway you asked...

What are the projected repercussions if Apophis strikes? What sort of outcome could we anticipate in a negative-wise? Could it prevent casualties to fully evacuate Europe and Eastern Europe? What makes you so sure the strike could completely ""reset" our planetary civilization?

If Apophis strikes it will be so epic of a disaster that what we saw in the morgan freeman starred movie 'Deep Impact' and Deenis Quaid starred 'The Day After Tomorrow' will seem like donald duck and goofy does national lampoon with cameo appearance by jim carrey saying over and over again "nothing exists, we don't exist".

Just think for a moment what the initial 66.6 minutes after the impact is going to be like and what the dark scenario would be after 77.7 weeks
We will have a nuclear winter like conditions and the sudden second ice age where hardly anything will grow, there will be volcanic tainted black snow and black ice where everything will be covered in black soot.
Countries will literally disappear because the national infrastructure vital for survival like water and sewage system, roads, bridges, railways, subways, hospitals, electrical power grid, telecommunications, logistics, agriculture, human services, government services, banking, packaging, manufacturing etc will ground to a halt

The closer the country is situated to the point of impact the greater the destruction and the human casualty they'll sustain with virtually everything coming to a standstill in that country as the necessary organs for survival is taken out hence the few remaining survivors forced to resort to desperate measures to survive including theft, robbery and murder.
So many countries of EU and Eurasia will be effected that any internationally organised emergency services will be useless as every nation on earth is too busy fending for themselves for basic survival at this point.
The initial impact blast will circles many times around the earth and EMP's from the blast will takes out so many power grids and telecommunications infrastructure that nobody will know the severity of the impact let alone the casualty numbers for a long time.

What is also worrisome is the hundreds of nuclear power stations in EU where the flow on effect of power outages and telecommunications breakdown may set off hundreds of 'Fukushima' like radiation contamination.
EU depend heavily on Russian gas
Imagine what the medium term repercussions will be let alone the immediate.
The pipelines and substations need specialist engineers and qualified trade people to maintaining them.
If they are dead, the road to access the ruptured pipes blocked, no fuel in the service van, no spare pipes and valves to replace damaged ones, no electricity to run the gantry cranes, no gas to work the forklift, no hydraulic oil, no diesel to run the generators and mobile welders to weld the pipes and no food and water to feed the workers then the vital natural gases that power the power grids and multitude of industries from Russia to EU will collapse.
And we are just talking about 1 natural resource.
What about oil, transformers, copper wires, fibre optics, fertilizers, iron ore, aluminum, gold, platnum, palladium,
The middle east won't be spared either nor the rest of the world in this hyper globalised economic system where everything vital to survival is internationaly joined at the hips.
Some members of the Deep state, dark state, shadow government, dark order, the cabal, globalists, luciferians, satanists, elite pedophiles or whatever they are labelled may see this as 'never let a crisis go to waste' moment and may suicidally want to let apophis strike because they have their state of the art DUMBs but rest assured all it takes is a few military officers with a machine gun down underground to create insurrection for power grab and civilian technicians suffering from claustrophobia to stuff everything up.
So they must understand that they too will be effected
The chinese said 'prevention is better than cure' likewise humanity is better off heeding Billy and the plejaren advise by diverting off course this giant rock headed our way through detonation of nuclear missile near it.

Matt lee
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Kenneth
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Posted on Friday, March 09, 2018 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's my understanding that NASA/JPL came up with the term, "Keyhole".

"Based on extensive optical and radar position measurements from 2004-2012, Apophis will pass the Earth in 2029 at an altitude of 31900 +/- 750 km (about 5 +/- 0.1 Earth-radii above the surface of the Earth). That altitude is close enough that the Earth’s gravity could deflect the asteroid onto a trajectory that brings it back to an Earth impact. Such impact trajectories require Apophis to pass the Earth at a precise altitude, known as a keyhole, in 2029 en route to a subsequent impact."

Billy predicted Apophis/Red Meteor and the corrected Pi number long before the word "Keyhole" became a common word in NEO's (Near Earth Object's) public terminology.

Don't hang your hat on Apophis hitting the Keyhole. It just may hit the ETP (Eurasian Tectonic Plate) first.

Kenneth
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Corey
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Posted on Friday, March 09, 2018 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kenneth,

Thank you for providing scientific details regarding what could happen if Apophis strikes. Of course it should be required to deflect it, and Quetzal said in contact #150 that this should be done in unison. And of course the Plejaren recommend deflection, not evacuations. But what if the deflection mission fails (the mission we haven't even come up with yet), should we not think for ourselves and come up with worst-case scenario resolutions? Of the serious problems facing humanity: such as Apophis, overpopulation effects, fulfilling predictions, potential prophecies, we had better learn to think for ourselves like an interstellar species would, if we want to survive the road ahead to become one (interstellar). Adaptation to revolutionary ideas such as natural law and recommendations is the need of the hour to try and prevent casualties because of cause and effect reverberations.

Of course this should be the first option, to deflect the meteor, but if this mission fails, and you say that mass evacuations are not an option, what are we supposed to do, just let these people die as the meteor strikes? Are you suggesting we go without backup worst-case scenario plans?

1. The first strike date given is 2029. We have 11 years, one month, and 5 days to put this planet's best and brightest on this Apophis problem and get some kind of mission off the ground for a deflection.

A. Can we change things until governmental, scientific, etc come together in unison for a deflection in time? Today all we have is talk of secret Russian and Chinese plans, and NASA isn't even on board. If we fail in the mission, or stupidly fail to find the will, we better move onto B.

B. We can't let these people die can we?,

If it were a big enough public emergency, there would be room for these people. I realize it is a high number, but maybe we could erect cheap domes for everyone to live, spread them out in relatively unpopulated areas of the Earth such as Montana, Wyoming, Siberian, the Chinese Turkestan? Spread some out in (already overpopulated) cities? Spread some out in the rural areas? I'm game for anything that gives these people a chance. These are just suggestions, what do you suggest we do (you're a scientist)?

I realize we are overpopulated as a species, which will lessen our food supplies. Better to think of the good ideas now to try and get out of this one before the going gets tougher.
Salome/Corey Müske. -"Goblet of the Truth" page 488 & 489 (theme of overpopulation and not following what is natural):
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27:62 "Ihr habt nur die Wahl, euch aus euren selbsterschaffenen Verstrickungen zu befreien und der Wahrheit der Schöpfung sowie ihren Gesetzen und Geboten Folge zu leisten – oder unterzugehen."

27:62 "You only have the choice to liberate yourselves out of your self-created entanglements and to follow the truth of the Creation as well as its laws and recommendations – or to go under."
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Friday, March 09, 2018 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree with you kenneth that only option we have is to divert this beast.
But what if we miss the opportunity to divert it should people living near that area just take it on their heads?
What would you do if you knew months in advance that the authorities failed to divert apophis and it was imminent that it will strike earth?
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2018 - 12:44 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Times of a Prophet ...

The scenarios humanity witnesses emerge as a response to its own thinking.
And as an opportunity to correct past mistaken thinking.

1. We live in an erratic world of bullying tactics, in which a few try, with force, to Sparta-like to rule over many.
Where terrorist attacks veil major smouldering economic conflicts, emerging conflicts that can easily spill over into major warfare:
Some may even think that a war will solve their economic problems.

2. The worldwide unrests seem to sanction a worldwide arms race (especially in nuclear weapons) -
But the way our fake media mention it, it may well be the other way around.
But in a world so craving for material wealth who wants to know ayway?

3. But the more NUCLEAR WEAPONS PILE up the more the horror of a nuclear holocaust becomes real.
As does the threat of a METEOR HITTING EARTH HARD because in a “world of i-everything” self-wealth was a much higher priority than protecting our planet.

The scenarios humanity witnesses emerge as a response to its thinking.
And as an opportunity to correct past mistaken thinking.

MISTAKEN THINKING LIKE THAT SOME 11,518 YEARS AGO.

The times of a prophet - they are not times of peace.

Salome,

Bill


"In other words, with what spirit do you declare yourself?
That in conformity with the universal consciousness, the law of love?
Or that of hate, dissension, contention - which brings or produces burdens (upon your fellow human) ...?"

Edgar Cayce
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Tat_tvam_asi
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It should read -
...MISTAKEN THINKING LIKE THAT SOME 11,516 YEARS AGO. (i.e. 9498 BCE)

Bill
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2018 - 01:14 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Times of a Prophet ...

The scenarios humanity witnesses emerge as a response to its own thinking.
And as an opportunity to correct past mistaken thinking.

1. We live in an erratic world of bullying tactics, in which a few try, with force, to Sparta-like to rule over many.
Where terrorist attacks veil major smouldering economic conflicts, emerging conflicts that can easily spill over into major warfare:
Some may even think that a war will solve their economic problems.

2. The worldwide unrests seem to sanction a worldwide arms race (especially in nuclear weapons) -
But the way our fake media mention it, it may well be the other way around.
But in a world so craving for material wealth who wants to know anyway?

3. But the more NUCLEAR WEAPONS PILE up the more the horror of a nuclear holocaust becomes real.
As does the threat of a METEOR HITTING EARTH HARD because in a “world of i-everything” self-wealth was a much higher priority than protecting our planet.

The scenarios humanity witnesses emerge as a response to its thinking.
And as an opportunity to correct past mistaken thinking.

MISTAKEN THINKING LIKE THAT SOME 11,516 YEARS AGO.

We live in a time of many changes which began "in those periods in ’58 to ’98 when … His Light (is) seen again in the clouds…” (Edgar Cayce)

We live in the times of a prophet.
And they are not times of peace.

Salome,

Bill


"In other words, with what spirit do you declare yourself?
That in conformity with the universal consciousness, the law of love?
Or that of hate, dissension, contention - which brings or produces burdens (upon your fellow human) ...?"

Edgar Cayce

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Kenneth
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Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2018 - 06:04 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Newinitiation,

Your analysis of the Apophis impact is spot on correct!

Kenneth
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Andrew_hua
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I'm quite confident that this meteor threat will be resolved, however, whether such a major undertaking will be made public is questionable.
Although carrying out a global cooperative initiative to save humanity on Earth would be a remarkable political ploy and a point of pride for those nations involved , carrying out a mission in secret to deflect the meteor would allow for keeping the Billy Meier case under wraps, thus maintaining the ignorance of the masses - not to mention allowing for NASA to claim their calculations for a mere near-miss to be correct all along.

Perhaps that errant Tesla roadster that was supposed to enter Mars orbit is secretly on task to pushing away Apophis, haha!

In all seriousness, a lot can change in ten years, let alone the 18 years between now and 2036. It could very well be that the nature of politics and international relations will allow for a global effort and cooperation to be promoted and enacted. The cooperation that we see with astronauts and scientists between JAXA (Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency), ESA (European Space Agency), Roscosmos, and NASA, is testament to the fact that we are capable of achieving something in unity.
Then again, a lot can change in ten years, let alone 18 years. It does indeed at times feel as if we are balancing on a knife's edge.
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Kenneth
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Newinitiation, Corey,

What would I do; what if I lived in the impact area:

First off; by the time various countries put together a program to divert Apophis (named after an Egyptian god of death), it will become very common knowledge among the populace. A simultaneously plan must be developed to help educate folks on various survival plans in case the diversion tactic does not work. Most government leaders have their own secret bunkers; they will not share.

Folks will know very soon of the actual impact site, regardless of the diversion method and outcome. This would also be an opportunity to educate folks of the Teaching and what the Mission is all about.

The kinetic energy impact (a rigid body of constant mass is equal to the product of half the mass times the square of the speed.) is evidently equal to 100,000 Hiroshima bombs! There will be a shockwave ~100 mi (161 km) in diameter, then a fire storm stretching out 100’s of miles beyond that; then meteorite’s will rain back down on Earth 500 to 1,000 miles (805 km to 1,609 km) from point of impact which is estimated to be ~3 miles (4.8 km) deep and ~3 miles wide!

According to our sources, it will fracture the Eurasian Tectonic Plate and create a new continent. Earth scientists declare that it will affect the rotation of the Earth as it goes around the sun. It is purported that this impact will throw up a dust and other debris cloud that will cover the entire planet. Hence, the new ice age, crop failures and contaminated water.

To answer your question directly, “what would I do”? I’d probably try to get myself and family out of Europe, but so will hundreds of millions of other people. With Earths current infrastructure, there appears to be no method to get out of harm’s way. Again, the only real and affective approach is to divert Apophis.

Kenneth
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Kenneth
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The question was asked:

"What would you do if you knew months in advance that the authorities failed to divert Apophis and it was imminent that it will strike earth?"

A better answer to this question; if you did not have confidence your government or the governments that have the capability to divert Apophis and you live in the European strike zone; I’d leave now, before the mad rush. Eventually all roads, rail and airports will be so packed, not much at all will move properly. This is of course, if Apophis is not properly diverted; you can always go back if the endeavor was successful?

If Apophis strikes as prophesized; between the North Sea and the Black Sea; this area and all countries around this region will most likely be obliterated. South Africa, Australia or North and South America could be options for longer survival, which would allow you to advance the Spiritual Teaching and the Mission as much as possible. But keep in mind, the entire planet and all life thereon will be in trouble.

Kenneth
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Corey
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Howdy Matt,

I will be officially responding to your post #1850 in a future capacity.
Salome/Corey Müske. -"Goblet of the Truth" page 488 & 489 (theme of overpopulation and not following what is natural):
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27:62 "Ihr habt nur die Wahl, euch aus euren selbsterschaffenen Verstrickungen zu befreien und der Wahrheit der Schöpfung sowie ihren Gesetzen und Geboten Folge zu leisten – oder unterzugehen."

27:62 "You only have the choice to liberate yourselves out of your self-created entanglements and to follow the truth of the Creation as well as its laws and recommendations – or to go under."
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Scott
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Please use the following link for continued discussions concerning Apophis etc. Thanks
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/3833.html?1519091516
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Newinitiation
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The truth cannot be fathomed overnight.
The truth takes time to adjust to especially when people have been lied to by the powerful agencies of communication and education from cradle to grave.
There is always an agenda behind the lies but the insidious effect of it mixed in with some truths is that often people are left confused and are unable to ascertain for certain what exactly the fact of the unblemished truth is in order to make up their minds about a particular matter hence being left on a limbo without clear course of action.
So with so much misdirections and crossroads it is a monumental task for people to wade through so much garbage just to grab at straws in order to be able to have their heads above water for a fresh start and a clear recalibrated mind on their quest for facts of truth whatever the issues are at hand.
With so much distractions in life and sources vying for people's attention they in the modern era are constantly bombarded with information overload and gratuitous sensory assault to their consciousness 24/7 so much so that the psychological fatigue and mental weariness from it leaves them desensitised and disassociated just as a way of coping and self preservation.
So with an already overburdened consciousness it is no wonder then why people detest heavy and deep subject matter as the spiritual teachings where if one's consciousness is not prepared for it nor the prerequisite capacities aren't there most would simply resort to the course of least resistance and simply just switch off.
There are many factors and causes beyond what is mentioned above but for the general masses to take on board the ultimate truth brought to us humanity by Billy and the plejaren they must go through many stepping stones and steps in order to get to the final destination.
Basically people like Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, Dr Corsi, Qanon, Corbett, Tarplay, Larouche, drudge, Luke Rudkowski, Icke, Assange, Snowden, Robert Steele, Celente, Dr Greer etc are all necessary stepping stone that appeals to the current mindset of people offering certain truths with the style that the masses can relate to much easier than what we the students of the Creational spiritual teachings deal with.
The fact of the matter is everything takes time and certain events must transpire to give the masses that context needed for them to finally obtain that missing key

Matt lee
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Newinitiation
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1) Have we reach the penultimate stage where the masses are finally ready for the Billy Meier contact case and the truth now?

2) What has held them back from fully embracing the truth?

3) Was it the lack of access to it due to mountains of disinformation about it or was it because of the narrowmindedness and shallow thinking of the masses that prevented them from penetrating through the now defuncted semi plausible deniability factor that Dr Deadorff spoke about?

4) So where are we and where does the billy meier contact case stand against the backdrop of the wider world in 2018?

5) Are the masses now finally ready to handle the ultimate final destination truth from billy seeing as the great awakening has fully kicked in thanks to all the intermediate truth tellers who, out of the force of political happenings, intrigues, machinations and conspiracy, have shattered the mountains of lies told and confirmed that indeed majority of the conspiracy theories ended up conspiracy facts and by extension forcing the masses to revise history and the past including the billy meier contact case?

6) So where does the billy meier contact case fit in against the wider world in this current times verses how it faired 10, 20, 30 or 40 years ago?

7) Have society changed drastically to be able to accomodate billy meier's information in its life now that the masses have finally learnt to think for themselves by freeing themselves from insidious propaganda and psychological imprisonment seeing as they have the instrument of independent thinking which has developed out of necessity that they can finally use to breakaway?

8) seeing as a lot of people out there are ready for the truth yet have never come across the genuine billy meier contact case due to tissues of phantasmagoric lies bubble wrapped around this case like s*** to a shoes such as pleiadian galactic federation ashter sheran OMG nonsense, how can billy meier supporters help them, guide them, ease them into and introduce them to the motherlode to give them the chance to make up their own minds free from coercion, force, manipulation, bias, missionizing and patronising?

9) truth has always become a casualty to the fickle passions, whims, sentiments, greed for might, desire for monetary wealth and the stultifying effects of ego-ism/tism yet even amidst the psychological assault by forced propaganda a lot of the citizens around the world have not succumb to life imitating art effect therefore haven't drank the coolaid not to notice what in the end is important in life not to ask themselves the relevent and important question about life that truly matters.
The consequences of this inner yearning for answers and more specifically the truth will compel them to search for it.
They will have to encounter many stepping stones to getting to the final destination but in the mean time how can billy meier contact case be presented better but true to truth form so that it is better and more easily accessible to those seeking the truth?

10) 2029 2029 2029 by this year what would have happened for the vast majority of people to conclude that billy meier contact case to be genuine and that he was telling the truth all along?
Will they have encountered Armageddon in order to finally realise it or will it be the very close shave from asteroid Apophis through that tiny key hole and the revelation that it will definitely hit earth in 2036 that they suddenly woke up to billy meier reality?

Mission to creational spiritual reality is definitely harder and time intensive than mission to Mars.

Matt lee
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Eddieamartin
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Newinitiation

Great questions.

For me, the masses may not be the actual issue.

From the Goblet of the Truth we learn that there are three aspects to the teaching of the prophets... namely the teaching of the truth, the teaching of the spirit and the teaching of the life.

Ptaah himself expressed that the teaching of the truth is very hard for terrestrials; my experience has been that it is down right unbearable for them.

But even my most devout religious friends and acquaintances find themselves in complete harmony with the teaching of the spirit and the teaching of the life.

With these two aspects I find the creational laws and recommendations of Cause & Effect rather effectively working.

Even the most religious are in agreement with the teaching of the spirit and the teaching of the life. They will even comment and engage in discussion, thoroughly in harmony.

Perhaps we need to change our approach?
Salome,
Eddie

In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Newinitiation
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Hi Eddie what would your answer and suggestion be to your own question below?

Perhaps we need to change our approach?



Matt lee
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Eddieamartin
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Matt Lee,

The answer to my own question; "Perhaps we need to change our approach?" is the creational recommendation that we each first work on ourselves.

If we made the decision and began to actually study and empower ourselves through the study of the Goblet of the Truth, we would be empowered with the effective knowledge.

We would work with, rather than against, creational laws and recommendations and thereby be highly effective.
Salome,
Eddie

In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1866
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Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2018 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Eddie what of the unawashed masses comprising the 99.999999999% though who aren't familiar with the billy meier contact case nor the spiritual teachings let alone such terms we often take for granted such as 'thinking for oneself', 'working on oneself','taking full responsibility for one's own thoughts, feelings and actions','the laws of cause and effect','peace, love, harmony and freedom' the 4 horsemen combination (my term) etc

My view is that often those seasoned veterans of the billy meier case like ourselves who've had the privilege of having had the benefit of ample time to research and study the billy meier materials must always go back to the very beginning of our journey to remember how it was like and what it was like for us back then so that we can better understand where the unwashed masses are in terms of this billy meier case.
We have crossed the border to the so called realm of the spiritual reality so much so that it is easy to forget what it took for us to get here and take the information as being second nature and can sometimes forget the difficulties the masses must confront with the billy meier case.

So I'll rephrase your question with this..

Perhaps we need to change our approach to better presenting the case for those new to the information so that misunderstanding and prejudice is minimized when they research this case so how would the supporters better cater to the masses who are new to this information?

Eddie what would your answer be to this version of my modified question of your question?

Matt lee

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