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    Littlefawn New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 08-2014 |
You evade answering my questions and insist on attacking me. It does not surprise me. WHy use another prophet with the message of creation when the first one didn't work? Whether the U.S. government time traveled or not doesn't matter. My questions are still valid about the Plejarans which you deliberately do not address because you can't. You just believe them blindly. Attacking me on whether my research reveals the truth or not does not invalidate my questions about the prophet idea and that especially in today's social climate, why on earth would anyone come up with an idea of using a prophet to deliver a message when you direct us to stay away from cults and religions? The more I ask questions I feel like i am pulling layers of the onion away and revealing the flaw in this plan of which none of you seem to see. Who cares if the US government time traveled, if that is all it takes to seduce someone into thinking they have all the answers for humanity then go for it. Be seduced, And blindly follow until your hearts desire. I am asking for validation of the Plejerans mission and all you can tell me is because they told you so. What is empirical about that? If the Plejerans want to reach our hearts and minds then that is how they should approach us, not through blind belief in a prophet aka cult/ religion. We are passed that. Here we have again an unseen entity that holds all the truth to creation. We must have 'faith', isn't that what they are expecting us to do, have faith that this is the case. Lots of people have 'faith' that Jesus-Jmmanuel will return and save them. What is the difference? I am sorry if you do not see it. It is very difficult for one to see the forest for the trees. One can not see the mountain when on the mountain, you must come down and walk a distance from it, to see it. That is where I am, at a distance, and from here I have a different perspective, which begs for further inquiry. I realize these questions are at the heart of your mission and I would have thought by now you would have a better answer prepared. I am not saying your mission is untrue, I do not know that. I am asking why we should believe the plejarans and no one can give me an answer without attacking me. That is not an evolved spiritual person. Its a gimmick that doesn't want to be exposed as such. Your mishandling of simple questions has exposed you as such. I am sure you all believe in what you do, but can you say with certainty why use another prophet with a message when the first one didn't work? The Plejerans, if they exist ( I have seen no evidence that they do nor has anyone else you are trying to give the 'message 'to, need to answer this for themselves. I realize their answer is Billy is the chosen one but that method doesn't work, and I think we can all agree it didn't go well for Jmmanuel-Jesus, nor did it get the message across. So maybe someone should go back to the Plejerans and find out why they would do it again, when it failed the first time, and other times? People, its a simple question. | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 267 Registered: 07-2006 |
Littlefawn and other recently new FIGU English forum contributors, First of all, The quickest way to understand what FIGU and its mission is (and isn't), would be to read "FIGU in a Nutshell". https://www.creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=zVYAOLBXVHM%3d&tabid=235&portalid=0&mid=1314 Regarding your questions and comments: - You start out by presenting information that has been updated since publication of your source information. The "Pleiadians" do not really exist. This is explained in FIGU Bulletin No. 1, in an article titled: 'Withdrawal by the Pleiadians/Plejaren' (April 1995). The Plejaren made it known that "... they do not refer to themselves as Pleiadians, but as Plejaren..." ---- RE: Why would the Pleaidians rely on a prophet with very special teachings when they already did that with Jmmanuel/Jesus and it was adulterated throughout history for the past two thousand years. This method didn't work and caused more problems then they intended. This does not seem to be an efficient method of communicating and executing "their mission" or agenda. There is a prophetic spirit-form lineage which includes Jmmanuel, Mohammed and BEAM ('Billy' Eduard Albert Meier). All prophets prior to BEAM made use of scribes to document the 'Spiritual Teaching' or 'Teaching of the Prophets'. Part of BEAM's fulfillment (mission) is to himself document in a way as to prevent further 'falsifications' being made and spawning their own cults or religions. The spirit-form lineage also reaches back into the history of the Plejaren in which their ancestors are also our ancestors in both spirit-form lineage and in physical human being genealogy. When the spirit-form of original universal prophet and herald, Nokodemion, first incarnated into an Earth human being, we began our very slow process of consciousness evolution of all humankind on Earth. This prophetic spirit-form lineage of prophets on Earth each taught the same 'Teaching of the Prophets' (Spiritual Teaching) also know as the "Teaching of the Truth, Teaching of the Spirit, Teaching of the Life" , including Jmmanuel. In each instance of the incarnation of this spirit-form into an Earth human being the Plejaren have been present to stimulate the consciousness development of the prophet in order to more fully utilize the advanced spirit-form level that had also enlived this human being's material body. This particular spirit-form lineage (Nokodemion) has the ability to receive impulses from the planetary storage banks but also the storage banks of the Arahat Athersata pure-spirit-level from which the Nokodemion spirit-form returned. The Plejaren and the High Council both have sought BEAM's council with this unique ability. All adulterations/ "falsifications" of the spiritual teaching throughout history has been for acquisition of power over others. Each prophet's dissemination of the Spiritual Teaching began with the truthly truth but deteriorated into sects and religions with the falsifications of the Spiritual Teaching by the power-hungry. One final note on this the Spiritual Teaching is the teaching of the creational natural laws and recommendations which were originated by the Creation and were perceived, learned, processed, understood, experienced, taught and disseminated by the prophets and finally in BEAM's case - accurately documenting the Spiritual Teaching in writing to be disseminated by the FIGU. This is the FIGU's primary "mission". ---- RE: I believe Billy had all the experiences he said, but quite frankly just because someone comes by in the galaxy with a space ship and time travels and does not mean I should believe them or trust them blindly. The U.S. and many other governments have spaceships from captured crafts and reverse engineered them. I know the U.S government has time traveled via the Philadelphia experiment and the Montauk Experiment and their technology is pretty impressive. However, I would never trust them. SO my biggest problem is with the Pleaidians themselves. Until they find another approach to reach humanity, I hold my reservations regarding their 'mission'/agenda. I need more evidence that they are correct, first hand. If I can't see it and observe it, I can't embrace it and evaluate it myself. Otherwise I would be just blindly following someone hoping they are correct. This approach is flawed and it will not work to help humanity. Please pass this along to them. The FIGU explains that each human being, in his/her 'Fulfillment of the Responsibility', must accomplish this process for him/herself. This process does not involve any type of "BELIEF" system. Just because someone else claims to have experienced something only means it is true for them. For one to blindly accept another persons experience/explanation as true is taking part in a belief system that truly disregards the "Fulfillment of Responsibility" and in fact relinquishes their human responsibility to process the information for him/herself and as a result of this, his/her attempts to pass off the responsibility for all resulting thoughts, feelings and actions onto someone or something else. The Casual laws of "cause and effect" explain that all initiated thoughts, feelings and actions (cause), and the impulse energy generated by them, are the responsibility of the individual consciousness processing (or not processing) them, this includes as well all resulting thoughts, feelings and actions (effect) and the impulse energy generated by them (in the form of swinging-waves).This does not include the energy impulses generated by others as a result (effect) of an energy-impulse received from someone else since at this point it becomes their own perception (a new cause) that they need to process for themselves which includes accepting the responsibility for their thoughts, feelings and actions and the energy-impulses created by them as well as all resulting thoughts, feelings and actions (effect) and the impulse energy generated by them This responsibility for self-processing cannot be relegated to anyone or anything else which is what a "belief system" entails. The creational laws and recommendations, which are taught in the Spiritual Teaching, are meant to provide all human beings with the recommended tools (since each human being is free to choose) needed in the "Fulfillment of Responsibility" that each human being must learn to understand and utilize the recommended process of perception for him/herself in order to truly "fulfill their responsibility". The need for "proof", which most human beings limit to experiences that can perceived through the five physical senses and that through these senses can be passed between human beings will never be more than a participation of a belief system until the human being learns to actively process these perceptions correctly for him/herself. The same holds true for all knowledge, one cannot pass on knowledge, only the thought impulses required for someone else to process it for him/herself can be passed to another. It does not become knowledge until the human being processes the information for him/herself and still does not become effective wisdom until that knowledge is incorporated into the processing of each experience as they occur in everyday life. Thus "passing this along" serves no purpose as a "belief" process will truly serve no purpose for anyone else. They, just as you, will have to fully process any potential knowledge for themselves and not accept any "passed on" experiences as their own (belief system). ---- Re: Since they are so "far advanced" then perhaps they really don't know how to 'connect' with present society. If they truly want to help humanity, they should be open to comments and dialogue. If their present approach isn't having their desired effect, perhaps its time to consider revising their approach. We are a very dynamic species and much smarter then they give us credit for being according to all the critical judgement of our conduct. Most people on this planet are good, peace loving people and not greed mongering monsters. Its the greed and power mongering monsters, i.e., the shadow governments who are responsible for the ills of present day society. Who said the Pleaidians know every detail about life on earth. Do they live here? Where is the evidence that they know everything? I would like to see it and I am sure most of humanity would want to as well. They underestimated us. The Plejaren are "far advanced" in their abilities both spiritually and technologically as a society (federation) as they have learned as a community of independent individuals to each incorporate into their daily lives the creational-natural laws and recommendations (Spiritual Teaching). We as an Earth-bound community of human beings still segregate ourselves (as a majority) based on "belief systems" governed by ideologies, sects and religions not based on the creational-natural laws and recommendations. Since each "society" will always be made up of the individual consciousness and personalities of each human being in that "society" , the Earth-bound human society has a long way to go. The Plejaren, as a society, have freely accepted a responsibility to assist BEAM in disseminating the Spiritual Teaching, originated by the Creation and passed down by the prophets which were their (and our) ancestors (Billy being the last of the prophetic spirit-form lineage - ON EARTH). It is up to each individual human being, in each incarnated life, to develop their individual consciousness for themselves. This includes each human being of the Plejaren society (federation). When the majority of human beings of the Earth each perceives, learns, accepts and incorporates the creational-natural laws and recommendations as part of their daily processing of life experiences then we can also be considered "more advanced", but we must do it for ourselves as individuals, a process that will take about 800 more years and there is really nothing we can do as individuals to speed up this process for a "society" as each of us as individual personalities with a conscious-consciousness can only do this processing for ourselves. The Plejaren, as also the human beings of Earth, are human beings (the same "species") and as such make mistakes. These mistakes are a necessary part of the learning (consciousness-development) process that will only bring each of us individually to a "relative" stage of development (evolution as a whole "society"). No human being nor the society/community/federation they are a part of will ever know everything, to expect this is irrational and totally without logic. Each human being (Plejaren or Earth-bound) during each incarnated life-time has the sole responsibility for developing their own consciousness. This responsibility cannot be demanded from nor relinquished to anyone or anything else to do it for them. This is ONLY my understanding based on what I have learned and continue learning. Now it is up to you to process these thought impulses for yourself...(and only if you choose to) and from that point on they become part of your understanding and responsibility for the further thoughts, feelings and actions and all energy-impulses you generate as a result of your own processing (or ignoring).  Hope this helps - Salome PatM | ||
Billwilson12 Member Post Number: 56 Registered: 07-2013 |
Littlefawn, I like to just you to ponder a thought on earths past. How many book burning can you find in the short written history of mankind? During the time of roman Julius Caesar had 750,000 books from the library of alexander burnt, the remaining 250,000 where used to heat the muslim baths for 18 months. Next came the the church of rome with much more in europe and the americas. And still more under the Nazi book burns. And in this day and time books are controlled by victors of empires until they fall. With all of this know wonder we have so many questions in our common psyche. But if you are willing to try to just read the Goblet of Truth, The might of thoughts and the book The Psyche most of the points you searching for will become self evident as you ponder the words written by just this one man. Only you can lift your veil from a lifetime of material only education system. The answers you seem to seek are all around the world, but if you can not walk the same path by studying the basic material. You will not be able find the type of insight you are looking for here if it is from a clinical point of view. Truly I wish you peace and harmony. Bill 123OM | ||
Markcampbell Member Post Number: 906 Registered: 10-2008 |
Hello Littlefawn ; To answer why the Plejaren would try to re-establish the mission after it failed before is actually a good question . The answer is a simple one . If at first you don't succeed , try and try again . You're welcome . Mark | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 754 Registered: 08-2004 |
Hello Littlefawn, You are quite right; we shouldn't believe Meier or the Plejaren. We have to each ascertain the truth for ourselves. It can never come through belief. Interviewer: What was the mission? Billy Meier: The mission was precisely to trigger a great UFO controversy on the whole planet. This was one of the components of the mission. And this part has been fulfilled since then. And the other part of the mission was to once again bring the spiritual teaching to mankind. The teaching of nature, the teaching of the Creative laws and recommendations (around the 1:06:08 mark.) Meier, Billy Eduard Albert. The Lost Interviews of Billy Meier 2012 Jamie Maussan Video. Interview made in 1999. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bozhLVsJwkY. Jamie Maussan. 13 July 2012. A person, any person, has to present their truth. The one who bears the title of prophet -- which has nothing to do with religion -- is no different. Meier does not try to convince anyone or ask anyone to believe anything, and you are quite right to mention the fault of believing in Meier or the Plejaren, Littlefawn, if you are still around. Meier IMO merely presents his truth. It is up to the world and every individual to make of it what they will. The reason it has been tried many times is because each time it was needed, and it will eventually -- this time -- succeed, in as much as the record will not be distorted beyond recognition this time due to our advanced communication and recording technologies utilized. Even so, it will take time to be absorbed and realized by the people (about 800 years to be comprehensively absorbed according to the Plejaren and Meier) because each has to go at their own pace. This is so, precisely because the path to an individual's truth cannot be hurried by belief, faith, or coercive influences from others. We do not have the luxury of a technology advanced enough to prove what reality and Creation are. Empirical knowledge will never be there for us in our lifetime, which means we have to decide on the preponderance of evidence; and that makes it very difficult to discuss and decide because each person's tipping point to recognition, cognition, wisdom, and the expression of true human love, are different. We are, in a sense, a people in a planetary jury. Endeavouring, as best we can, on the evidence available, what is truth and what is not regarding life, Creation, and many other issues. This jury will remain out for 800 years approximately, if Meier and the Plejaren are right; but we as individual jury members may make up our minds at any point in time, or die unable to. There is no rush. Each will arrive at their own truth in their own appointed time which only they can decide. If you watch the above YouTube video, Littlefawn, I think you will find Meier himself answers many of your questions in it. Whether it can help you find any truth is for you alone to decide for yourself. After watching it, feel free to follow up with any questions you may have, or repeat any remaining ones you think or feel have not been adequately addressed. Chris Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either. | ||
Barbatruco Member Post Number: 10 Registered: 08-2015 |
The mission is to save the planet, to save the maiden and to live together happy forever ever.  | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 18 Registered: 12-2016 |
I'm still having trouble with the timing of the Mission. All this time and effort spend only to let the Dark Order wipe it all out with their World War. I understand the internet was designed to withstand a Nuclear War but wouldn't it have been better to start the Mission after the war? Since there's been a lot of new info translated does anyone know of any new info on the timing of the Mission? | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 869 Registered: 08-2004 |
As I see it, the mission is giving us a chance to avoid the war. It appears to have helped avoid it many times already, given the many past possible timings for the war. Chris Use to the full both the heart and head and never lose either. | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 23 Registered: 12-2016 |
Cpl, "As I see it, the mission is giving us a chance to avoid the war." Very true. | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 443 Registered: 07-2006 |
The following is only my person recommendation for: Introducing a young adult to their purpose in life … FIGU recommends that a young adult be at least 13 years of age WITH their parent's permission before introducing them to the FIGU material. My recommended place to start would be for them to read a FIGU Open Letter written especially for them. This can be found at: https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=2a_BOQs5Ga4%3d&tabid=1178&portalid=0&mid=4213 Allow them to read this on their own and at their own pace. Once they are done reading the Open Letter and have had time to think about it, let them make the decision to learn more on their own (DO NOT make that decision for them). They will let you know if and when they are ready. Introducing a new student to the FIGU Material (Where to start) … Many questions will come up and from those many more will arise. ALWAYS answer with the reality and its truth as you know-it-to-be and only enough to truthfully answer the question submitted to you. Do NOT share more than has been asked for/about because when they are ready they alone will know their own level of current understanding and the question to ask. Do not attempt to explain something with your assumptions, this could cause much unnecessary confusion. If you don't know, just answer, "I need to do further research so I can answer that question for myself. Then I will point you to where you can find the information in order to learn your answer for yourself.". Afterwards more questions will come and as the questions transition into discussions ... then you both learn from each other. What the student asks is their right to know the truth about ....... whatever ... their honest inquiry needs a direction for them to find out for themselves. You cannot and never will be able to give them their answers. These have to be worked out by them for themselves just as you have to work out your own answers for yourself! One of our groups primary FIGU-based mission fulfillments is to provide, for all those who follow us, a place to study on their own ... A student's progress should not ever be limited by another person's understanding in how they worked out a situation (in thought, feeling or action or even as a "What if ...?" ). At best you can give them a pointer to where to find their own answers to questions they have when they are ready to ask the questions you cannot answer. Only when they let you know they are ready, start first with who/what your source of information is ... "FIGU in a Nutshell" is just what its title suggests ... https://www.creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=zVYAOLBXVHM%3d&tabid=235&portalid=0&mid=1314 Once the student reads about what FIGU is and isn't, then time must be taken for the individual to begin the process of working out of the thought impulse generated for themselves. FIGU Switzerland setup their Swiss-German website to provide a seeker-of-truth, the core information about FIGU Their entire website has been translated to US-English by our group and is available at: https://www.creationaltruth.org/FIGU.aspx The fundamental information on the following major topics is explained by FIGU on their website, correspondingly it has also been translated on our website into US-English: FIGU Society - see: https://creationaltruth.org/FIGU/FIGUSociety.aspx#FIGU-Society-Topics-30 Spiritual Teaching - see: https://creationaltruth.org/FIGU/SpiritualTeaching.aspx#Spiritual-Teaching-Topics-28 Ufology - see: https://creationaltruth.org/FIGU/UFOlogy.aspx#UFOlogy-Topics-69 Overpopulation - see: https://creationaltruth.org/FIGU/Overpopulation.aspx#Overpopulation-Topics-71 The Reference Library contains a listing-breakdown of FIGU's entire catalog of articles, BEAM Portal entries, books, booklets, periodicals and general reference material. See: https://creationaltruth.org/Library.aspx#Library-Contents-6 There is also a powerful search engine on our website which you can search both for German and/or English words or phrases. The purpose of this website (https://creationaltruth.org) is to provide a place for an individual to search on their own for information on how to work out for themselves their own answer and/or resulting next question. It should be left up to the individual to set their own pace of study, when they are ready only they will know, and what they are seeking. Only they will be able work out the knowledge themselves for themselves. Only in this wise will they actually be able to use this knowledge in their everyday life as they then acquire the essence of wisdom for use in their thinking-feeling-acting processing of impulses. This will in-turn ... be as only they decide for themselves, because it is their own free will which enables them. Beyond that always, as said before, ALWAYS answer the new student's questions with the reality and its Truth as you know-it-to-be and only enough to truthfully answer the question presented. Do NOT share more than has been asked for/about as when they are ready they alone will know their own level of current understanding and the next question to ask. In other words don't attempt to give them the answers to questions they are not currently capable of processing. This is only my personal recommendation. Hope this helps. Salome, Patrick McKnight | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 291 Registered: 02-2010 |
Pat...Ooops....I guess I'm blind sometimes, sorry Pat....for some reasons, I saw Pam for all these years....and I was calling you Ms Pam..  MsMichelle | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 131 Registered: 10-2016 |
Thanks Patm for the lengthy (industrious) translation effort. I actually passed a copy of this translation to my 18 year old daughter today, along with the "photo inventory", and a couple of MH movies. She was very receptive, and open to this, and she was open to receiving Meier gifts (it was her choice), and she seemed the most excited to receive the photo book, and the translation once I explained it was translated by a friend of mine who translated it, so young people like her could read it. I told her after she looks through everything she can come to me with questions, and if she decides she is not interested, I won't bring it up again (respect her freedom of choice). She seemed to think it was all cool stuff, she asked me a few questions, such as "what is the FIGU?", I kept my short replies short & sweet. We spent a good part of the day together, but we only talked about the Meier case for 10 minutes. Thanks once again that you were willing to translate this Patm. Salome! :-) Salome/Corey Müske | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 445 Registered: 07-2006 |
Msmichelle > Actually my initials are P.A.M. Corey > I want to thank you for making the translation effort worthwhile for me by using the Open Letter exactly as it was originally intended by the author. I wish you and your daughter many years of learning from each other. She is very lucky to have a truly real adult to go to when she has questions. Salome PatM (Patrick Alan McKnight) | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 596 Registered: 04-2013 |
PatM, Thank you very much for this, "Introducing a young adult to their purpose in life …", I forwarded this to a few friends that are interested in Billy's material. Sincerely Salome Kenneth | ||
Mind_guerrilla New member Post Number: 2 Registered: 04-2019 |
Hello, Folks interested in Billy Meier have sooner or later encountered the idea, of a "fall" or the fall of mankind as the reason for the Mission. Some folks think that a fall has yet to come and refers to the fulfillment of the prophecies like another world war. But rather my opinion is that a fall refers to the term Ausartung or a very bad getting-out-of-the control of the good human nature that is already a problem for the Earth human. But we learn that this Ausartungen is not just limited to the planet Earth but is a problem of our universe! From Figu Bulletin 104: "Thereby it must be clear, that out there in the expanses of the universe are also still other humankinds and life forms, which are equally 'ill in the head' and unpeacefully and unrighteously live with Ausartungen (things that have very badly got out of the control of the good human nature) of all kinds and therefore likewise through their one's own doing, in similar to or same wise as the earth-lings, make a hell of their life-presence (existence). And as Sfath already said, what thereby can be said about it, that the absolute majority of all human and human-like created creations in our entire DERN universe have thus through one's own early Ausartungen (things that have very badly got out of the control of the good human nature) fallen into a converging state with that of the ausgearteten (very badly gotten out of control of the good human nature) Earth's human-kind." I assume when he says "the entire DERN universe" he means not only our space-time configuration, but the infinite expanse of configurations that make up our universe. As we know the Plejaren come from a space-time configuration of our DERN universe that is a fraction of a second off from ours. I get the impression that their space-time is not easy for even advanced technological civilizations to penetrate, and may even offer a certain amount of protection from "the majority of all human and human-like created creations in our entire DERN universe" who are very badly out of control of the good human nature." But this is just my opinion. Now that I learn that an "absolute majority" of DERN humanoids have gotten away from nature and are essentially sick, means that humanity has fallen for now in the DERN universe. This makes our silly little problems on Earth seem small compared to the destruction against nature and humanity that is occurring on innumerable worlds throughout our entire universe! Obviously the Mission is universal. Because even the Plejaren needed Billy Meier to learn, discover, study, etc, the truth to write down the spiritual teaching or the cure for a fall of humanity in the DERN universe! Figu Bulletin 104: "...which we also after 52,000 years of peace must follow and always furthermore learn. And we can do this today through the teaching of life from Nokodemion, the 'Teaching of the Truth, Teaching of the Spirit, Teaching of the Life', which unspeakably much helps us with our further consciousness-evolution, which was known to us how-ever only in small parts until the beginning of your mission, which you now however in frequently extended explanations not only bring and teach the earth-human beings, but rather also us." And the rest of the DERN! And probably beyond! We learn from the spiritual teaching that in the great expanse of the Creation or the Universe, there exists equalisation. So it makes sense that there may be a certain number of physical universes in the Creation where humanity is doing well, or in other words in line with nature, and certain universes were mankind would be falling, or the majority of humanoids going against nature. The book Arahat Athersata talks about the hyper-oneness of the inner and the outer; and although both the human being and the outside environment, for example, can be viewed as individual concepts they actually create a hyper-oneness of the positive and the negative. We learn from Figu that our solid-state matter universe is the fourth belt of the Universe, right between the third belt which is the positive and the fifth belt which is the negative. So it makes sense that reality or the material realm, sits between or is an equalisation of, the positive and the negative. Interestingly, the positive or the third belt is an inner belt to the material universe belt, and the negative is the outer belt to this material belt. So there is always an inner and an outer, as we learn from Arahat Athersata. A good example would be that although a human being stands powerful, he/she needs air, water and food from the outside to survive. The inside also represents the spirit or the positive, and the outside is the negative. We can observe this in nature by looking at the atom for example. An atom is composed of two regions, the nucleus, which is the center (the inner) and contains protons and neutrons (the neutral-positive) and the outer region of the atom, which hold its electrons (the negative). The atom always has an equal number of protons and electrons, so we can see the law of equalisation in nature. We can also see the term neutral-positive in nature because the number of protons and neutrons are usually the same and reside together in the inner nucleus. Now getting back to the inner and the outer creating a hyper-oneness, we learn from Figu that the human being is 100% responsible for his or her evolution. Again, the human being or the spirit-form which is the inner or the positive. So what role does the outside play in a human being's evolution since there must be equalisation? Well we learn from Figu Bulletin 104 "Therewith however also the cognition was connected, that due to the currently life-long learning process of every new personality also was given the connected danger and possibility and timelessly over all new incarnations and new personalities, again - despite every achieved higher development - to fall back into old behaviors of previous personalities. However it was recognized, that entirely especially suggestive verbal, thought and feeling-conditioned influences, as also consciousness- and psyche-disturbances as well as manifold action-conditioned outside influences of fellow human beings can bring about and cause very negative relapses in regard to behaviors of every kind." So "despite every achieved higher development" of the inside or the spirit-form, a human being can "fall back" as a result of "outside influences" of fellow human beings and get very much out of control of the good human nature. Again from Figu Bulletin 104, " It was however also recognized, that despite all cognitions and strivings concerning the life-conduct in the good things, right things, humanly things and in re-gard to the righteousness, as also concerning the following of the natural positive creational law-principles, the human beings always re-mains susceptible and can again fall back into old ungood, negative, evil and bad behaviors, if he/she does not make an effort around the necessary controls for the prevention. And it was recognized, that this can always then again occur, when regarding this in any verbal, physical or consciousness-burdening, thought-burdening, feeling-burdening and psyche-burdening forms influence long enough on the human beings from the outside." So just like a human being needs good air from the outside to breath in order to live, the human also needs good influences (creational laws and directives) from fellow human beings on the outside to survive. Because we learn from Arahat Athersata that the result of getting very badly out of control of the good human nature for the human being is that he destroys himself. So although mankind of the DERN are experiencing a falling back or a fall, there is NO danger of the physical universe falling as a result of the insanity, just humanity if she does not clean herself up. I wonder if the DAL universe, our twin sister, is also experiencing "the absolute majority of all human and human-like created creations...have thus through one's own early Ausartungen (things that have very badly got out of the control of the good human nature) fallen?" If I had to guess I would say that the DAL universe may be positive and the DERN the negative, creating a hyper-oneness. So they may not be falling like us. But I do not know for sure. Best regards, AA | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2894 Registered: 12-1999 |
Lets not forget about the mysterious spherical object which appeared 52,000 years ago which aided in the transformation of the Plejaren people to a more peaceful co-existence: "Ptaah Thus in fact was my father, because he always only explained so much, as was necessary. We is should not talk about that now, but rather about that, which concerns us Plejaren. I must begin therewith, while I address that, which itself had come about around 52,000 years ago on Erra and our other Plejaren planets. At that time swinging-waves were exuded from out of the spherical-flying-object, that circled around Erra and also around the other Plejaren planets every 32 days, which with all planetary-inhabitants, took under control a distinct brain region and a precisely defined realm, against which there was no possible defense, as could be fathomed by our what-was-then scientists. For which itself with the processes, and around whatever brain areas and precise realm of the brain it acted itself, our directives do not allow me to explain, because through more precise disclosures for the earth-human beings, i.e.,..." | ||
Mind_guerrilla New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 04-2019 |
Hi Scott, Yes the mysterious spherical object which appeared 52,000 years ago has also peaked my interest like many here. Of course the big question for myself and I am sure for many folks is will Earth get such a sphere? Do all planets with humans who have gotten very badly out of control of the good human nature receive such spheres? I think a few clues lie with Arahat Athersata. Of course it remains a mystery as to the origin of the spherical object, but Christian Frehner shared with me that he thinks that the origin lies with "Hoher Rat" or "Arahat Athersata" perhaps. This makes sense when you consider that the Arahat Athersata hasn't contacted anyone in around 2000 years, up until Billy in 1975 when he wrote the book. And as I understand it, since Billy is the last prophet there will likely never again in our universe be a human being contacted by such a higher plane, immaterial being(s). The fall of the DERN has somehow created an emergency in which these higher immaterial beings have had to step in and help. I am beginning to think that the spherical object which appeared 52,000 years ago and helped transform the Plejaren will only happen that one time and never again. Another way of looking at it is, apparently this is all our universe needed! And the chain reaction from this has set into motion the Plejaren Federation who have aided our world; and been involved with the universal prophet and have now obtained in written and lesson form the much need spiritual teaching to save man from himself. As I understand it the Plejaren are withdrawing from Earth around 2029 and turning their attention to other duties. I would imagine a great deal of these duties involve taking Billy's works to other worlds in need of the spiritual teaching. As I understand it, Billy or rather more specifically Nokodemion spirit form has now completed this duty for our universe with Billy being the final prophet. It seems fantastical that this will be enough to spread out and cover this universe, let alone our little world we call Earth. But this is testament to how POWERFUL THE TRUTH IS. The TRUTH PREVAILS! It is like a tinny drop goes a LONG, LONG, LONG way. As I understand it, Billy was able to take in Arahat Athersata unlike any other Earth human ever. And now that the teachings have been put down in writing and can be distributed there is hope for our universe. And it is my thinking that the reason this all happened here on Earth was not only because of Nokodemion being present in our incarnational cycle, but also because we have a lot of advanced ET spirit forms that form a melting pot of great minds when incarnate. So there may be GREAT hope and potential for the planet Earth compared to other worlds. I think a good way of thinking of it is that since Earth is the epicenter of the spiritual teaching in this universe, and we have been so close to this that our world, once equalised with nature, will be a powerful force in the universe helping OTHER WORLDS THAT WE ENCOUNTER! And this chain reaction will strengthen world after world, with new civilizations rising up in spiritual greatness and becoming helpers in the great expanses of the DERN. Eventually this "absolute majority" of fallen will turn around so that the outside will become equalised for the humanoids of this universe with a majority of civilizations inline with nature or the Creation. Cheers! | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1973 Registered: 07-2005 |
Good on ya Anthony It appears that you have made much progress in your studies and on working on yourself as more and more the process of the internalization of the spiritual teachings is reflected in your writing hence the maturation. The inevitable question that always seem to surface for me when dealing with these types information is why earth and why this universe out of millions or even billions of others out there at this particular era and why these specific set of information and not others. And naturally you get the inevitable conclusion. The earthlings or the human beings of earth and the conditions that we've created for ourselves must be the most degenerate and the most desperate out of all the so called intelligent life in not just this universe but countless others for which we only know the existence of three that is inhabited. So naturally the 7 series of prophet had to be here on this earth to do their work and not anywhere else with the help of the more advance races of people and even the higher spiritual planes. It's mind boggling if you actually think about it Now you inevitably face another sets of questions in that what makes this earth and the human beings of earth so special that even the higher spiritual plane got involved when simply they could've left us to our own devices even to the extent of wiping ourselves off from the face of the planet like it was the case for the ETs who annihilated themselves due to oxygen collapse from overpopulation. Why wasn't the prophet assigned to that planet to try and save that race of people instead of this one. Obviously we don't need to get into the history of it all as most forum members here would know by now from all the contact reports about the historical significance of the various reasons and origins of why the events played out the way it did to where it is today. So having said that there must be so much more to the story than what we are aware of or made to be aware of beyond contact report 251, Asket's Aquaintenship, Sfath explanation and other CRs as to the significance of this planet and its people for the Nokodemjon/7 prophets/plejaren and federation/higher spiritual planes to have gotten involved and not anywhere else as they have done on earth and for earthlings. We may slowly find out as time goes by. Matt lee | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 966 Registered: 04-2013 |
Newinitiation. Interesting thoughts. Yes, "We may slowly find out as time goes by." Nonetheless, we really do not know if similar situations happened on other planets and or universes that involved prophets for the Spiritual Teaching, etc.? As what happened to the planet Akart in the star system Proxima-Centauri, 5 light years distant from Earth, there could have been prophets there as well; but did they listen... Nope!  Likewise with the planet KUDRA Lasan in the Lyra systems for that matter? Unless we hear it from Billy, we just do not know? As you said, "...there must be so much more to the story than what we are aware of or made to be aware of beyond contact report 251." Yes, I have also wondered, could it be only Earth? The AA or other higher beings may be recommending similar Spiritual Teaching elsewhere that we have no knowledge of? Kenneth | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 989 Registered: 08-2010 |
From the book Arahat Athersata from Page 144 554. Therefore, the truth is only intended for those who recognise all harshness and bitterness of the truth and the words that announce it, and who are able to process and evaluate it. 555. All others are not yet ripe enough for it and must become developed in lengthy clarification-work for the understanding of the truth. 562. And because this is so, it is the highest obligation of all those even only the half-way knowing ones, wherever willing ears are, to scatter the seeds of the teaching of the spirit and to support the work of those who announce harsh and bitter words of the truth. Here the AA-spiritform recommends we "scatter the seeds of the teaching of the spirit". Even the strongly religious, I have found to be very receptive and in agreement with the teaching of the spirit and the teaching of the life. Everyone who desires to be effective and helpful to the Mission, in this New Time, should study the Goblet of the Truth and the book Arahat Athersata. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Mind_guerrilla Member Post Number: 5 Registered: 04-2019 |
Hello Matt, You said, "...why earth and why this universe out of millions or even billions of others out there at this particular era and why these specific set of information and not others." As far as why this universe and not others? My ideas are in my posts above...? First of all you have the law of equalisation. So there are an equal number of universes where man is falling and an equal number where man is in line with nature. So then you have the possibility that the DERN universe is a negative while the DAL is the positive in a hyper-oneness. If we are the negative it just so happens that we are one of those universe out of an infinite number in the Creation where humanity is falling. So face it, compared to universes where there is a MAJORITY of humanoids in line with the Creation/nature, we are not doing as good. We are slower than the universes that are not "falling" and need a prophet and a plan. I am sure there are universes that do not need a prophet and this info written down... it just comes natural. And why this information? Are you kidding? My suggestion is to start with the Arahat Athersata + Decalogue/Dodecalogue package deal that MH is offering. Forget about giving books away and take care of yourself you shouldn't regret it. The short answer is because this info is in line with nature; and nature is what the human has strayed from. Ausartung (to get very badly out of control of the good human nature) is the word of the day for you my good man. So this info is the way for man to get back in line with nature because he has gotten very badly out of control of nature. Cheers, Anthony | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1386 Registered: 07-2009 |
Anthony is echoing one of the things that I've often said about us Earthlings. After all that our species will have been through, beginning with the Sirian genetic manipulations, etc., and through all the interference, religious delusion, insanity of wars and politics, etc., one day we will be the most...qualified and remarkable beings to venture out into the universe to help bring the truth and the spiritual teaching to those developing races most in need. | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 1069 Registered: 08-2004 |
Me too, Michael. Without letting it go to our heads, when feeling present day Earthlings might be getting us down, we should always remember that we are headed for a truly magnificent future, and keep ourselves on course by keeping the Creational laws and recommendations, and casting the seeds of the spiritual teaching wherever they can take some root. Chris Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either. |
