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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1111
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Monday, December 16, 2019 - 05:30 am: | 
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Welcome to our forum, Chinalien.
Re. your request for info about China …
Billy does not answer any questions from Forum members anymore.
But I gathered some info for you.
(1) Chinese Language
The Plejaren are in possession of all Earth languages (CR 04:14) so as to speak to all Earth people.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_004
But I could not find any info re. the origin of the Chinese language:
CR 159:76 *) only mentions that the oldest Earth languages developed out of the Lyran language
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_159
(2) Origin of ‘Yellow Races’
- CR 236:
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_236 scroll down to 236:197-200
See as well:
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Attacking_questions_from_Japan
(3) Mixing With Other Races
- CR 231
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_231 scroll down to CR 231:260 - 279
(4) Some Predictions and Prophecies**)
- Billy’s prophecy from October 2017 - which the Plejaren Ptaah leader confirmed
China will now as well, in addition to the US and Russia, assume a position in world politics, it will leave its status of being only a passive, observing looker-on since the Korean War and changes into a self-confident major and world power and a resurgent Chinese nation with an impressively prosperous economy and the Socialist Republic of China will make no secret of its ambitions as a leading and major power on the global political stage and it will massively upgrade its military strength.
- In a different publication Billy foresees a bright future for China indicating that it will develop strongly and peacefully (I could not find this source, sorry.)
- In CR 251 ***)
In some future time Japan and China are to discover that there exists yet a higher level of physics which extends into the fine-matter realm. Due to this discovery science will be discredited for some time.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_251
- In CR 115
The Chinese attack on Vietnam in 1978/79 seems similar, to a future (but much more ominous) event (Billy to Semjase on October 19, 1978):
“It’s about China and Vietnam…Will this only be a pro forma attack (China attacking Vietnam Feb 1979) which represents a very first predecessor of that which in later time will be repeated, and then shall form the essential starting point of the Third World War, at least for the part that will be started by China?”
71. Semjase:
“You are well informed about these things and you also know this to be unavoidable, in consequence of which all of it really occurs…"
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_115 CR 115:71-72
(5) "Nocturnal Dawning" ?
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_251
The 1995 predictions/prophecies of CR 251 mention that "an artificial sun in the sky will herald the conquering of space on a large scale".
In Feb 2016 the Hindustan Times and in Nov. 2018 the Australian ABC reported that the China created an artificial sun.
Similarly in October 2018 "The Time" had reported that the Chinese will create an artificial Moon 8 times brighter than our moon to illuminate city streets at night:
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*) CR 159:77 only mentions that all languages on our planet have a Lyran origin.
From this Lyran origin ancient languages originated – out of these the Sumerian, Aramaic, Hebrew, Minoan, Celtic etc. arose.
The German and other languages developed from the Celtic, from the Minoan the ancient Greek etc.
(… But there is no information about the Chinese language)
**) A “prediction” refers to an event that will definitely happen - a “prophecy” is 'what should happen if nothing changes the given scenario':
One of the major laws of nature tells us that “as one sows, so he will reap”. A prophet is a person that aligns his thinking with this law . A 'prophecy' is given to save mankind from suffering. Naturally, prophecies may change if new, unforeseen events take place.
"Prophecy": from (Greek 'phanai' =) “to speak” and (Greek 'pro' =) “ahead”.
Sample (my try):
China never attacked, robbed or enslaved a foreign country – consequently it, too, should not be attacked, robbed or enslaved.
(We should except the times of the “Golden Horde” as this was a time when a minority of Mongolian invaders ruled over the Chinese with brutal force)
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Billy tells us that some of the CR 251 events are predictions while others are only prophecies. He does not tell which is which so as not to frighten mankind. |
Tat_tvam_asi
Member
Post Number: 1112
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Monday, December 16, 2019 - 06:32 am: |
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Add-on to the above:
Billy's explanation why he choose not tell which events relate to prophecies and which relate to predictions:
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/16244.html#POST85659 |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 2100
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2019 - 08:25 pm: |
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Fantastic compilation Bill and good effort.
Matt lee |
Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 1066
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2019 - 05:33 pm: |
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Hi Tat_tvam_asi,
It’s my understanding that the Chinese & Japanese languages came with them as they are the newest or last races to arrive on Earth, ~ 25,978 years ago.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Attacking_questions_from_Japan
Kenneth |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 2102
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2019 - 05:59 pm: |
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I am of the opinion that although the Plejaren have left earth for good and their official mission over as far as I know with the final departure slated to be around 2029 with the passing of Billy I think that with plethora of UFO sightings beyond the earthling's ARVs, future earth humans and the 3 other groups there are still many ET components to some of the sights all around the world.
This means that although the Plejaren left some of the Federation members haven't and are still somewhat busy with the ongoing mission in their own capacity hence the incredible sighting in outer space for all earthlings space launches.
Matt lee |
Tjg
New member
Post Number: 2
Registered: 03-2018
| | Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2019 - 06:53 am: |
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Hello everyone, I'm from China; there is a question that has been bothering me, which is about the modified photo of Asket. The photo was tampered with by MIB based on the appearance of "Michelle DellaFave". But my question is that the woman in the photo seems to be wearing eye shadow and her lips are reflective, like lipstick. It's written in the report that they never seem to wear makeup, so why didn't Billy notice this obvious problem when he got this picture? I think this is quite obvious. |
Hugo
Member
Post Number: 765
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2019 - 12:38 pm: |
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Tjg, only the Plejaren women don't wear makeup. Asket's people (the Timor's) do. Also, the Plejaren women (and men) always wear spacesuits whereas Timors don't. It is mentioned in the Meier material that Asket wears a tight fitting dress much like our women do. |
Tjg
New member
Post Number: 2
Registered: 03-2018
| | Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2019 - 09:28 pm: |
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Hugo, thank you very much for your explanation |
Tjg
New member
Post Number: 3
Registered: 03-2018
| | Posted on Saturday, December 21, 2019 - 06:14 am: |
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Hugo,I can't find the original article about Asket makeup. Could you tell me where you saw it?Thank you. |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 2109
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, December 21, 2019 - 01:05 pm: |
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Hugo as far as I can recall Ptaah mentioned that certain vanity do exist in the Plejaren women namely when Semjase dyed her hair and applied light lip gloss or something similar I think.
It is also mentioned somewhere that earth women were whores or something to that effect.
The context behind this was to do with earth women applying makeup.
Matt lee |
Msmichelle
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Post Number: 577
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, December 21, 2019 - 03:50 pm: |
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Accordingly, what I remember, Semjase did not dye her hair, the hair color change with due to her space equipment or uniform.
Matt, personally, your words strike a tone of respectfulness towards women by calling them "whores". I know BEAM has used "whoring" which is a difference. Not to mention, your words strike a hatefulness towards women in general.
MsMichelle
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Hugo
Member
Post Number: 767
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Saturday, December 21, 2019 - 09:51 pm: |
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Tjg,
I don't remember where I read that in the contact notes, nor do I have the time to find it for you. If your that interested in it you can search it for yourself in the contact notes at FOM website. - http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Reports
Newinitiation, yes I vaguely recall reading something like that in the notes as you said there in your first paragraph. |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 2111
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, December 22, 2019 - 03:38 am: |
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Msmichelle I will preemptively say that you don't need to apologise as misunderstanding can and alway do happen between people especially in cyberspace.
Just check out OM pg 45 and you will get the idea and just incase you are baffled by my response here I suggest you reread my post 2109.
Matt lee |
Msmichelle
Member
Post Number: 578
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, December 22, 2019 - 06:50 am: |
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Matt, you are disrespectful in general when you post about women. I do not have to look anywhere but at you and your writings(post). Not sure where you're from, but just because some women do "whoring activities" just as some men do "horrific activities towards women" does not justify calling all women on earth as "whores". I respect men as well as women, and you'll never see post from me calling all men as "degenerate" however, the behaviors of some men are beyond words.
MsMichelle
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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 2970
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Sunday, December 22, 2019 - 08:14 am: |
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Matt,
Can you cite the Canon and Verse in the OM you are referring to? I don't seem to be able to find exactly what it is your trying to state.
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Felinity
Member
Post Number: 16
Registered: 09-2019
| | Posted on Sunday, December 22, 2019 - 12:26 pm: |
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Welcome Tjg! Your question was valid. I think it was the CR3 where Semjase told Billy that women on Erra don't wear make-up. Billy said to her that he doesn't pay too much attention to details (hair, make-up) so he guessed incorrectly on her age. In 1975, she was 330 y/0 and he said 33. Minor detail with that pesky zero 
Salome, Belinda
Belinda |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 2115
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, December 22, 2019 - 04:25 pm: |
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Hi Scott that source is something I got wrong.
My mistakes and thanks for checking.
I don't want to make the same error by bringing this up again and causing inconvenience to Robjn and Dyson but it was from an old discussion way back in 2007 involving the word 'whore'.
Matt lee |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 2116
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, December 22, 2019 - 07:24 pm: |
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Msmichelle I am afraid I cannot help you out on this one.
You will have to resolve for yourself whatever issues that you are having at the moment as it appears that your response to me is just a symptom of something deeper that I am afraid you've been running away from and wouldn't want to admit.
I am all ears if you want to discuss privately.
Newinitiation@yahoo.com
Matt lee |
Msmichelle
Member
Post Number: 582
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Monday, December 23, 2019 - 08:54 am: |
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Matt Lee, first of all, look within yourself and resolve your own issues with women. I'm completely developed and once again, you consider yourself superior and better than others whether you'll admit this consciously or unconsciously. Why would I speak privately with you? I've had experiences (good and bad) in my life which have prepared me to handle people like yourself. So save your attempts to hide your own insecurities and undiagnosed psychosis about women
MsMichelle
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Piyali
Member
Post Number: 154
Registered: 08-2012
| | Posted on Monday, December 23, 2019 - 09:03 am: |
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Salome Scott, I think this is the part of OM being referred to, the comments of which I had issues with in the past. But there is a lot of clarity now. It is a sensitive subject matter. Here is the source I think:
Kanon 32:
211. Schönheit erlangt das Weib nicht durch die Bemalung ihres Anlitzes, denn gleichsam ein Frevler das Leben schändet, macht sich das Weib durch die Angesichtsbemalung zur Hure, denn sie spottet dadurch dem Natürlichen.
212. Natürlichkeit ist die Schönheit des Weibes, Bemalung des Angesichts aber zerstört die Natürlichkeit, gleichsam einer Taube, die im Pfuhle wühlt und sich wie eine Sau beschmiert.
Salome
Piyali
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Piyali
Member
Post Number: 155
Registered: 08-2012
| | Posted on Monday, December 23, 2019 - 06:51 pm: |
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Salome. Here is my rough translation of the two selected verses from Canon 32:
Kanon 32:
211. Schönheit erlangt das Weib nicht durch die Bemalung ihres Antlitzes, denn gleichsam ein Frevler das Leben schändet, macht sich das Weib durch die Angesichtsbemalung zur Hure, denn sie spottet dadurch dem Natürlichen.
211. The woman does not achieve beauty by painting her face, because a malefactor defiles the life as well, if the woman makes herself as a whore through the face-painting, because therethrough she mocks the natural.
212. Natürlichkeit ist die Schönheit des Weibes, Bemalung des Angesichts aber zerstört die Natürlichkeit, gleichsam einer Taube, die im Pfuhle wühlt und sich wie eine Sau beschmiert.
212. Naturalness is the beauty of woman, but painting the face destroys the naturalness, the same as a dove, that rummage in the murky pool and smear itself like a sow.
It is my understanding that OM is not easy to fathom and many of its verses offends people. It is ancient teaching that I think is meant for all human beings of our Universe, not just for the Earth human being, but I could be wrong, so please correct both my translation and my perception where I am wrong.
In the past, I was very offended by the interpretation of these two rather sensitive verses by some members here and people did not like that I questioned it and accusations were thrown around with each of us defending our accusatory behaviour. Anyhow, all of that is in the past. The good thing was, that my conversations with those who have really understood in depth the meaning of these verses or have more clarity, clarified the meaning a lot for me.
I also remember being informed that a woman is allowed a certain vanity. There is nothing wrong with light and tasteful makeup, however when it is overdone, there could be cause for concern. I do not feel so shocked when reading the OM anyore, but each verse, not just these two verses in question, give me pause and makes me think. That is all for now from me.
Salome
Piyali
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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 2971
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Monday, December 23, 2019 - 08:22 pm: |
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Hi Piyali,
Perhaps you struck the meaning "give me pause and makes me think".....thank you for translating these, I have seen these verses before....Salome |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 2117
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Monday, December 23, 2019 - 08:34 pm: |
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MsMichelle this gives us both a great opportunity to reflect on what the lesson entailed from the discussions were if we can avail ourselves to see it.
An error not recognised is lesson not learnt therefore no knowledge and wisdom gained.
If facts and truth is important to you as it is for me give me some concrete evidence where what I've said gave you the impression that I had issues with women and consider myself superior?
Let's deal with the facts and not the emotion.
Agreed?
Matt lee |
