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Scott
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Hello,

Here is more updated information on the length of the evolutionary steps from FIGU Bulletin No. 077 (Jun 2012) pages 3-6. Various corrections were made to the book "Existing Life in the Universe".

50,000,000 years
Evolution as autonomous material life form human being. (50 million from an average of 40-60 million years)

56,000,000 years
Evolution in the level 'High Council' as a half-material life form.

364,000,000 years
(7 x 52 million years) Evolution in each of the seven main-pure-spirit-levels.

2,538,200,000 years
(= 343 X 7.4 million years) Evolution in the 7 x 49 sub-levels of the main pure spirit levels.

3,008,200,000 years
Evolution in average duration.

This length of time is the average duration from the Spirit (Creation-Energy)-Forms initial incarnation to the point that it merges with the Creation.
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Lauste
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Bill, yes I see what you mean by, in a nutshell, it takes one that has been there to help one that is there. Though I do not agree that it's suffering with others per se, but rather realizing that that person is solely responsible for their own suffering and we are there to guide them through our own hard earned knowledge that has been since long payed for. We can still feel with them through empathy, in order to understand, but not bear the weight for them which I think is important. I don't know if that's what you mean't but I just wanted to add those words.

Maureen, yes the traffic situation I can relate to as that's a good example of an external event that cannot be controlled, therefore, the only thing you can control is how you react. Turning a negative into a positive...or at least neutralizing it.

Kenneth, yes note taken, regardless of the specifics the Plejaren are indeed significantly more advanced spiritually than most of us on Earth. At least with the number you gave I thought we stood a chance haha. The number Scott gave in terms of a complete cycle of the spirit (3 billion years or so) is interesting, I wonder what happens after we merge with Creation. Perhaps, after we aid in the evolution of Creation itself (return to it) we either get dissolved and recycled back and do it all over again but slightly more evolved (that's depressing) or perhaps we are no longer an individual being or a collective but literally are Creation as one whole and at a certain point have to merge with something else. A question for the philosophers and best of luck to them.
Do not go Gentle into that Good Night.
Rage, Rage Against the Dying of the Light.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Lauste

"Compassion" is an assistance that "temporarily enters the world of the one that suffers" - like, IMO, Billy did/does who gave up his high state of consciousness willfully entering the material sphere of suffering.

"Empathy" is more an awareness of the other's suffering. It would explain the more detached attitude of the Plejaren. They are immensely empathetic without really participating in the everyday life on Terra.

Both attitudes compassion and empathy will be - with varying degrees - beneficial to balance our consciousness.
Naturally -
"As we declare us in our attitude towards our fellow humans, so it will be done to us."

IMO:
Compassion is more risky. Demands more strength. But it is much more powerful, In balancing, too.


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Tat_tvam_asi
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PS
I think the PLejaren are well aware about the benefits of what I call "creating a balance by active compassion":
https://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_191

CR 191:51
" ...After their rebirth, they were taken away by their former brothers and sisters on Earth, so in the course of time, they converted to the truth again and committed themselves to work on the Earth in the future, according to the strictest performance of duty, for so long until all damage and all errors were removed again, which they had caused in their incomprehensibility at the beginning of their time on Earth."
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Breeding Hybrids Between Animals and Humans - Then and Now

In August 2016 we discussed the topic “human animals” on this forum *). At that time I mistakenly took what the FoM mentioned only as a “spiel” (the Atlanteans teaching these hybrid human-animals) as a given .
But after re-reading what Semjase told Billy in 1975 **) I am not so sure whether some parts of this spiel may have actually been reality because as Semjase tells us “the Earth beings at that time were of the most diverse forms an kinds. These hybrid beings were created by space-farers arriving on our planet who “… fertilized also by genetic manipulation different animal species and produced new life forms by genetic engineering…”

Semjase tells us that many of these new life forms (in-between mutations between humans and ape) have been “discovered by earth researchers and scientists and became known as “the human beings under names such as Africanus, Peking Man, and Neanderthal ***) and so on.”

If the mentioned “space-farers” that created these hybrid humans were from the Atlantean race it would make sense that later-on Atlanteans would want to care for the unfortunate-ones that their distant ancestors created. And if this was the case then it may well be that their decision “to care for the hybrid humans” would cause divisions among Atlanteans - maybe the scientists resisted this decision and split up.
Going by the CRs this is pure speculation. The Plejaren never mention what caused the divisions among their ancestors (the split between the scientists and the common people of Atlantis some 13,500 years ago which some 2000 years later lead to the destruction of Atlantis).

But there are some passages in the readings of Edgar Cayce that could be interpreted this way. He mentions that “the divisions in Atlantis arose in relation to the question how to treat those “things” that were regarded “like humans today regard the pets in their home”. It would as well support the fact that “keeping the pure race” was what must have been the highest or one of the highest laws in the Arus regime: We know that his leaders faced heavy penalties for mixing with terrestrials.

Edgar Cayce mentions as well that some of the good Atlanteans before leaving our planet (they had realized that Atlantis was doomed) created a special hospital-like place in Egypt (“Temple of Sacrifice”) in which these “things” (human-animal hybrids) could "purify their bodies", that before leaving our planet the fleeing Atlanteans assisted these unfortunate hybrid beings to develop into “a better, purer race": We could well interpret EC’s readings that scientists from Atlantis “genetically re-engineered the hybrid humans back into pure humans.”

We know as well that genetic engineering will re-occur on our planet:
Billy: “Sfath said that in a coming time, animals such as monkeys/apes will have human brain parts or entire brains implanted into them, and also genetic manipulations are supposed to be made, from which animal-people will then emerge, whom you call cherubim. These, then, are beings that have an actual animal body yet a functioning human consciousness and, therewith, also a creative human spirit form.,, Now, the time of these genetic manipulations, as well as the transplants of brain and body parts, will soon stand at the door, according to Sfath’s information… ”
www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_202

Ptaah confirmed that chimeras will be / are being bred on our planet: CR 465:68-71
www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_465
And a recent CR (sorry I cannot find the reference) even tells us that some plants and animals are “genetically cross-bred”. Many reports as well on the net ****)?

Genetic engineering may be necessary for plant species and we know that the Plejaren and the Zeti Reticuli use androids with humanlike features. But still, one wonders, is the mixing of human consciousness and animal biology not one step too far ?? Esp. since many of these hybrids may become the soldiers of the future?

*)
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/14760.html#POST78509
**)
(CR 07:135-142)
www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_007
***)
The gene manipulation must have happened long ago: We know that the Neanderthals were on our planet for 250,000 years. www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Neanderthal
389,000 years ago? CR650:09-81
www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_650

****)
E.g.
Google for National Geographic:
"Human-Pig Hybrid Created in the Lab—Here Are the Facts"
Google for BBC
"The uneasy truth about human-animal hybrids"
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Kenneth
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Hi Bill,

Ptaah listed different kinds of human beings that the Plejaren have catalogued. If I understand the Plejaren correctly, these Cherubim beings live or lived elsewhere in the universe besides Earth.

One of many is the TEROPOIDS which are human lifeforms with human and birdlike body features, a longer neck, aerodynamic face and beaklike mouth. Exactly like the Tangata manu, see Easter Island and references to 'CHERUBIM' and 'smaller island Mot' in Contact Report 069 and Contact Report 202.

Human-birdlike features are depicted all over Earth with ancient carvings and paintings, as well as human beings with animal bodies and wings.

https://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/Humanoid_lifeforms_in_the_known_universe

The list of human like being and non-human beings reminds me of some Star Trek episodes.


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Tat_tvam_asi
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Animal Human Hybrids (Continued)

Very interesting.Thank you for the supplementary information, Kenneth.

I think the human-animal creations on our planet may have been the result of genetic engineering that happened 389,000 years ago.
Details see CR 236:15-52
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_236
As well CR650:5-11
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_650

Re. “animal-human hybrids” as per Edgar Cayce readings:

It may well be that Edgar Cayce provided more details in readings that are not mentioned in the books that I have. His sons (Hugh Lynn and Edgar Evans) who assembled all his readings wrote in “Edgar Cayce on Atlantis” about “the masses that flocked to the combination of hospital and educational institutions (Temple of Sacrifice and Temple of Beauty):
“Evidently, besides low mental development and/or lack of moral judgment and self-control, some people classed as servants or “things” or “automatons” had physical deformities, linking them to the animal world. They may have had tails, feathers or scales…”.
It would support what Semjase tells us in CR007: "... the Earth beings at that time were of the most diverse forms an kinds..." Space-farers "fertilized also by genetic manipulation different animal species and produced new life forms by genetic engineering..".

I am for a few days very busy.
But, maybe by mid-next week I may be able to look for a few more details.

Bill

PS

Like with Billy’s CRs – there is an immense number of interesting details in EC readings.
Combining them with what we know from Billy and the Plejaren information reveals some interesting facets of “prehistoric” events
E.g., EC vividly describes the journey of the Atlantean man who (in 10,300 BC “during the breaking up of Atlantis) “first established a library of knowledge in what later became the Library of Alexandria in Egypt. “He was a follower of the Law of One (one of the two major groups in Atlantis) who wanted to establish a temple activity (which may not have been religious at all but more educational) “His and his followers marks may still be seen in the chalk cliffs of Calais …” (northern France opp. Dover) (Reading 315-4 of June 13, 1934
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Kenneth
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There is much mythology mixed into the modern day Egyptian lineal descent which makes it a challenge to separate the truth from myth (fairytale or falsehood). The Contact Notes (Reports) shed factual light on the real happenings in ancient times, which many of todays scientists have a difficult time accepting, so it is classified into mythology or folklore. The fact is, those in the Teaching understand more pre-history and ancient cultures of the Egyptian and other ancient historical TRUTHS than most archaeologists, anthropologists, and historiographers of today.

An interesting note, the flat part on the top of the scepter (staff) that Ra, Ptah & Isis are holding are always facing at 63 degrees. Do not know why, but for what it is worth, the Azores (former Atlantis) falls close to this 63-degree latitude.

According to this information, it is interesting to note that Horus-1, is considered a Sky God and is the son or creation of Osiris-11 & Isis-12. Osiris appears to be depicted as a long-skull. Horus-1 is depicted as one of the TEROPOID which are human lifeforms with an aerodynamic face and beaklike mouth.



Human and semi-human forms of some of the chief Egyptian deities:
1) Horus, son of Osiris, a sky god closely connected with the king.
2) Set, enemy of Horus and Osiris, god of storms and disorder.
3) Thoth, a moon deity and god of writing, counting and wisdom.
4) Khnum, a ram god who shapes men and their kas on his potter's wheel.
5) Hathor, goddess of love birth and death.
6) Sobek, the crocodile god, Lord of the Faiyum.
7) Ra, the sun god in his many forms.
8) Amon, a creator god often linked with Ra.
9) Ptah, creator god and the patron of craftsmen.
1O) Anubis, god of mummification.
11) Osiris, god of agriculture and ruler of the dead.
12) Isis, wife of Osiris, mother of Horus and Mistress of Magic.

According to these paintings, along with the Teropoid race (human-birdlike features), there is what appears to be the brown race, white race, and the blue race.

Kenneth
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Yes, Kenneth, the ambiguity *) of Egypt makes one wonder:

http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/14199.html#POST76862
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/14199.html#POST76932

"Initiated"/well-educated priests and the common people following sometimes childlike belief systems

But you are right, many a mythology contains a grain of truth. E.g. Billy mentions that god-like adoration of cats by the Egyptian people stemmed from the fact that the cats protected their corn silos (by chasing away the mice)

And many - if not all their "gods" - may have been Atlanteans or people from Mu.
E.g. we know from Ptaah that the Egyptian god Ptah was one of his ancestors.
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“Mansion of the Spirit of Ptah”

In ancient times Egyptians called their fertile land (Nile River valley) “kmt” (kemet) which translates into "black" and the red, sandy lands on either side of it “deshret” or “dsrt” (which really translates into “red one” but may have somehow contributed to the Latin “desertum” = desert).
See as well Billy’s remarks (which inspired me) after CR 710:120 www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_710

But the name “Egypt” used today is a Greek pronunciation (“Aegyptos”) of the ancient Egyptian “Hwt-Ka-Ptah” which translates into “Mansion of the Spirit of Ptah *)” – which originally was the name of the Egyptian city of Memphis:
Maybe this is the main Egyptian location where Ptah was teaching ancient Egyptians?

Bill

*) Re. “Ptah”


In ancient Egypt Ptah was revered as the god of craftsmen and architects
An ancient hymn (22nd dynasty) tells us “Ptah crafted the world in the design of his heart”

Semjase tells us (CR 31:09) that the deity that the ancient Egyptians revered was her ancestor:
www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_031

Her father adds that it was through Ptah that Egyptians, Meso- and South-Americans and Chinese traded with each other
www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_520

Ptaah:
46. My ancestor, whose name is spelled 'Ptah', and his wife Basth came from my ancestral lineage and worked for some time on Earth in South America and Mesoamerica respectively, although no records were kept of either of them.
47. Nevertheless, they were two important persons, because they created contacts for the natives with ancient Egyptian pharaohs.
48. This led to a certain trade between the Mesoamerican and South American peoples and the Egyptians, with all kinds of goods, also special plant products, being exchanged between them.
49. Especially the Egyptian pharaohs wanted special plant products from South America, which were basically not anything else but drugs.
50. Ptah also arranged connections between the ancient Egyptians and countries in the East, even to present-day China.
...
52. The Egyptians and Chinese were already shipping to South, Central and North America thousands of years before the new discoverers you mentioned.

To complete the picture, I add some of the readings of Edgar Cayce which give us a glimpse of the time / events taking place before Atlantis was destroyed:

“When the “children of the law of one” *) realized that there was the final breaking up of Poseidon Atlantis there were the emigration of the leaders to the various lands” (Reading 1007-3, 1938) which could be interpreted that the Atlantis people could fly in the future and check what would happen to their country. It would make sense that a truly spacefaring civilization is capable to set any space time coordinates it wants to fly to. Poseidon Atlantis may have been the spaceship like main city of Atlantis.

There seems as well a selection to have been made who would be saved – and that it was those “who would be saved ” who then taught earth humans some of their skills:
“In the Atlantean land when there was the breaking up of the isles and it had been given out that those that would or were to be saved must journey to the various centers to which the leaders had been given the passports.” (Reading 633-2, 1935)
-------------------------------------------------

BTW
Billy tells us in CR 710
that some 25,000 years ago Florida was 3 times its present size: “huge parts of it have sunk into the sea”. There are many reports in Edgar Cayce’s readings dealing with a staged breaking up of lands.

^) “Children of the Law of One”: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/13401.html#POST72564
- Open hyperlink via “Paste and Go to …(hyperlink)”
- Then scroll down (on the found link) to **)
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Joe
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DeepL preliminary English translation of Contact Report 723

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_723
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Kenneth
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Billy makes it clear that the Plejaren mislead him due to incomplete sentences which caused misunderstandings about other extraterrestrials entering Earth's space, and demands clarification!

=============================

Excerpt from the 531st Contact Report of Monday, December 5, 2011 from the Pleiadian-Plejaren Contact Reports Block 12 book, pages 420-422.


Billy:
But I thought that something was not clear enough, because according to all of which you have explained in the last two years regarding this, I have assumed, as well as also other human beings, that only you Plejaren and your federation are active and fly into and out of terrestrial space. That then the unknown to you extraterrestrials and those from the future however were not mentioned, leads to an enormous misunderstanding in the way, that the Plejaren and your federation are absolutely the only extraterrestrials, who come around into terrestrial space.

Ptaah:
91. This misunderstanding is very regrettable, and it was not my intention to cause this.

...//...

Billy:
So there are no newcomers from the depths of space who fly to and from the Earth, but only the ones of whom you currently have spoken, who however in your last explanation were not mentioned. Consequently, arises that exactly is correct, that you and your federation are the only ones, who yourselves are known as Earth Foreigners and who as such, visit the Earth. Then, however, the Unknown Ones and the Future Ones to you, are not acknowledged as Earth Foreigners to you and you have only of those extraterrestrials spoken, who you recognize – by you Plejaren and your federation.

Idiotically of this misunderstanding, because this is again stuff for the know-it-alls, critics, and opponents, who are too dumb, in order to understand that simply through incomplete statements and explanations misunderstandings can appear. Perhaps it is our mistake, when we discuss many matters only in a private way, without contact reports about them being written down. Also, that many matters by you only are incompletely said and explained, leads not rarely to misunderstanding...

Excerpt from the 532nd Contact Report:

Billy:
Then my next question, which does not apply to the ones of the future, with whom you of course do not want to have contact, but my question does apply to the unknown to you, respectively, to the unknown to you Earth aliens, of whom we have spoken about in our last conversation. I have indeed no contact with them and also do not want to get in touch with them, yet I think, that you nevertheless know something about them, for I can myself imagine, that you do not put aside the matter without observation and thought.

Ptaah:
49. That’s correct, yet we do not concern ourselves too much with them, for the technology on which they operate, as well as their conduct does not correspond to prerequisites, that would be important in accordance with our directives, which would allow us to enter into contact with them.
50. Alone from their technology and from their conduct we are able to conclude upon their consciousness ability position, of which not one of them complies, who would allow us to start a contact with them.

Billy:
Their technology must however still be well developed, for they are able to come from somewhere in space to the Earth. And with their conduct …

Ptaah:
51. Admittedly, this is actually so, yet the aliens are, regarding their consciousness development and their fallible conduct patterns, contrary to the inviolableness and the dignity of all life in exactly the same way still are not sufficiently developed enough, as also not their technology, as a result we are not able to arrange them in accordance with our directives into the important security stages, which are predetermined by us as our directives.
52. And regarding their conduct [Earth Foreigners], many matters do not correspond to a consciousness development, which would allow a contact starting and association with them in accordance with our directives.
53. There, were and are, many incidents caused by them, which are not able to be reconciled with a healthy and higher consciousness ability development as well as also not with various creative-natural predetermined laws and regulations.
54. Despite the higher developed technology, through which they are able to cope with travel through space, they are on this matter not much further developed than terrestrial scientific-field, skilled workers, who as a rule, all live just according to Earth human laws and regulations, while at the same time, they however still follow little, or in general nothing, in the exercising of the creative-natural predetermined laws and regulations.
55. Such is it by them in exactly the same way not to observe also, through these laws and regulations preexisting inviolability (purity) of the body as well as the psyche of human, animal and wildlife, as this also is the case with Earth humans.

Billy:
And is this the case with all three groups unknown to you?

Ptaah:
56. Yes.
57. With these three groups is however to understand here, that it concerns a matter about them of three different factions, who however all together build a unity, thus belonging together and in accordance with our observations of only one origin, however who have different areas of responsibility on the Earth.
58. Of three groups is only generally to speak, because our realizations of these Earth aliens is that they are clearly organized for certain tasks in three different terrestrial areas, in which they become evident and are variously working.
59. So, one group moves entirely in the West continental area of Antarctica over Tierra del Fuego and all Americas with various islands up to Alaska and to the Arctic, then another group moves entirely in Europe with Africa and all islands, with Greenland, Eurasia, Arabia, Madagascar and the Arctic as well as various islands, and finally the third group moves entirely in Asia and Oceana with all islands, as also in Australia, Tasmania, New Zealand and in a part of Antarctica.

Billy:
Thus, also, here once again a misunderstanding, for we always thought, that with the three groups may have meant three different Earth alien races, which would come from different worlds.

Ptaah:
60. That was actually a misunderstanding, hence, it is good that you have again brought up this matter.

Billy:
And were you able to find out, where these Earth aliens come from, respectively, where their origin is?

Ptaah:
61. Regarding the discovering of their origin planet, we have tried, yet I cannot give any information about it, because up till now we do not know of this and also on account of the lack of their consciousness and technological development, do not want to enter into association with them, in order to find out.
62. There must arise, regarding this, an unwanted foreordination, which however is doubtful, because we in no way seek a contact with them, as I already explained.
63. Hence, we also do not watch their exact activities but only take notice of them, which arises through unintentional observations, etc.
64. And as far as the number of Earth aliens is concerned, such were we able up to now only to observe a few of them, although all of these however were clearly registered by us.

Billy:
However, you still would be able to follow the chaps secretly, in order to find their home world if they would currently leave the Earth.

Ptaah:
65. Up to now we were not able to register any excursions by them from Earth space, as a result we presume, that they are permanently stationed here, on Earth.

Billy:
Then regarding this, I will not continue to enquire about the Earth Foreigners. …

Kenneth
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Yes, Kenneth. They 'seemingly' mislead Billy...
... But Billy knew the truth all along.
It was but a smokescreen because the MIB were already in Switzerland:
Billy's life was at risk (CR 710:43-54)
www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_710
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Kenneth,

Please remember to post the source of the contact reports! You should show some respect to those who are new to the Billy Meier UFO case.
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DeepL preliminary English translation of Contact Report 724

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_724
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Kenneth
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Sorry about that folks, here is the source for my Post Number 1304 regarding "Billy makes it clear that the Plejaren mislead..."

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_531

Salome
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Kenneth
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Billy:
… the so-called “Foo Fighters” (English: Foo = name for unknown flying object in the Second World War), which were observed during the Second World War, were these secret terrestrial flying machines?

Ptaah:
59. No, we were able likewise to clarify this; all of these concerned the four groups unknown to us, …

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_556

Interesting that the subject of “Foo Fighters” came up in the Contact Notes. My Father was drafted into the Second World War. He told me that when he was stationed in Europe, Allied pilots talked to him about the Foo-Fighters and thought that they were advanced German aircraft. Later, my Father talked to a captured German pilot that spoke English, who said that they encountered the Foo-Kämpfer (Foo-Fighter) as well and thought that it was advanced American aircraft.

Photos from archives:

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Kenneth
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Regarding the four extraterrestrial groups...

Billy:
Of course. However now once finally it is clearly certain, that the four groups unknown to you are very active in various ways…

Ptaah :
...//...
68. This, if one leaves aside the vague suspicions, which perhaps or even very truly are felt by them, because your activity in regard to the spreading of the contact conversation reports probably has not remained hidden from them.

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_565

Kenneth
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Joe
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DeepL preliminary English translation of Contact Report 725

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_725
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Thank you Joe
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DeepL preliminary English translation of Contact Report 726

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_726
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Does Billy's SARS information resolve the cause of a decades old, still unexplained, mystery disease from the 70's named SUNDS / SADS?

Contact reports about the origin of SARS:

Contact Report 341
"Billy: And do you know what the origin of this disease [SARS] is and where it comes from?
Quetzal: 29. Yes, we have clarified these matters. The fact is, which will of course be vehemently denied by China, that this lung disease was caused by experiments in a secret laboratory for biological weapons in the southern Chinese province of Guangdong."

Contact Report 760
"What is further written in my father's notes, however, is that in China, in a secret laboratory in the city of Guangzhou, a virus will be created that will escape from a laboratory for the first time in 1976 as a result of carelessness. This virus would mutate several times until the new millennium and remain undetected by all research, only to cause the first recognisable outbreak of the disease in the first three years of the new century."

Contact Report 769
"4. Everything had to happen fast and quicker, which was mainly because the WHO and the sciences had been asleep and had not switched gears early enough when the first Corona cases appeared as early as the mid-1970s, which, however, were not recognised as such but were wrongly judged as flu variations, again and again over some 4.5 decades, during which the Corona virus mutated some 5,000 times."


From the above:
1. Location of SARS outbreak = city of Guangzhou, South China.
2. Year of SARS outbreak = 1976.
3. SARS will "remain undetected by all research" and the first Corona cases "were not recognised as such".

Compare with the following about SUNDS / SADS:

[History.com:] "How a Terrifying Wave of Unexplained Deaths Led to ‘A Nightmare on Elm Street’ ~ Oct 30, 2018: The story Craven described wasn’t an isolated incident: dozens of Southeast Asian refugees in America died for unknown reasons in their sleep during the 1980s. The mysterious deaths were usually among young men in their 20s and 30s from the Hmong ethnic group [Wikipedia: "The Hmong people ...are an ethnic group living mainly in southern China"], and affected a large enough segment of this population to alarm public health experts.

Headlines such as “Mysterious Fatal Malady Striking Hmong Men” and “Night Deaths of Asian Men Unexplained” ran in the L.A. Times throughout the late 1970s and early 1980s, any one of which could have sparked Wes Craven’s imagination.

Other Hmong believed they were being punished by the spirits of their ancestors for leaving their homeland. Their anxiety centered around “the inability to do right by your ancestral spirits because you’re not there, or because you don’t have the right things to perform the right rituals,” says Dr. Um. “I do think that for many of the Hmong of that generation, the traditional explanation remained salient, if not more salient, than explanations related to cardio-vascular problems.

The fatal ailment, later classified as Sudden Unexplained Nocturnal Death Syndrome (SUNDS), has been investigated by the Center for Disease Control at length. However, the wave of SUNDS deaths among Southeast Asians, particularly the Hmong group, is still unexplained."


Wikipedia: "Sudden arrhythmic death syndrome (SADS) is a sudden unexpected death of adolescents and adults, mainly during sleep. One relatively common type is known as Brugada syndrome... The syndrome is rare in most areas around the world but occurs in populations that are culturally and genetically distinct. People who leave the population carry with them the vulnerability to die suddenly during sleep. It was first noted in 1977 among southeast Asian Hmong refugees in the United States and Canada. The syndrome was again noted in Singapore when a retrospective survey of records showed that 230 otherwise healthy Thai foreign workers living in Singapore died suddenly of unexplained causes between 1982 and 1990.

Causes
Although there is no real known definite cause, extensive research showed people 18 years or older were found to have suffered from a hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, a condition in which the heart muscle becomes oddly thickened without any obvious cause."



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Joe,

When you post the Contact Reports to FOM, are you receiving the German Notes in Digital Format, because it would seem like a monumental task to scan the pages and then use an OCR program.

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I was very intrigued reading the information in CR 721 about the great spherical structure that calmed the Plejaren 52,000 ago. Surprised to read all that but I'm not sure if it means that it was connected to the Nokodemion spirit form because Billy had to give them the instructions to open it. But how could the Nokodemion spirit form be behind it if the spirit form has been reincarnating on Earth for the past 389,000 years? Am I missing something or has it nothing to with the Nokodemion SF? And why couldn't the Plejaren have gotten that info sign from the High Council?

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_721
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Hugo,

Could you post the sentence about the "instructions to open it", because I think you may be confusing two separate statements.

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Scott, I meant sign but CR sounds like it could also be instructions too? -



Ptaah:
327. It was a very clear instruction handed down to us from time immemorial that we had to keep to it, never to open the great spherical structure, because there was an evil threat associated with it, involving a planet-wide catastrophe if force was used to try to open it.

328. The directive contained a clear and precise instruction that the spherical structure was not to be opened until the correct time, when the 'Herald of Horseshoe Mountain' would come and give the 'sign to open'.

329. What we will find in the now opened and for us still immeasurably diverse library, we do not yet know and can also not yet guess, because we opened the image only a few days ago with your 'sign'.

330. But what we have found in this great spherical monument, which has always been hermetically sealed, and what records etc. will be there, we cannot yet estimate.

331. Only after we had opened this structure – which had not been permitted since time immemorial, but only through you, because you, as a personality of the direct Nokodemion lineage, were and are entitled to do so – did we become aware of the immeasurable responsibility to which we now have to submit and which we now also have to consciously bear and strive to fulfil and carry into all the future to come.........
...........

339. You must have known about it, yet you never spoke about it – but why not?


Billy:
That is actually simple, Ptaah, because I was not allowed to say anything about it because that is how it is ordered in the memory bank of Nokodemion, that is why your father Sfath was also not allowed to say anything to you when I had to explain some things to him regarding the large metal sphere formation according to a certain rule from the memory bank. And furthermore, I can and must say now, since so much has already been made clear, that I had to act in this way, also by telling you the secret of opening the image, the 'sign', as you call it. And this was necessary, for you Plejaren are to be the heirs of the entire 'Teaching of Truth, Teaching of the Energy of Creation, Teaching of Life', as Nokodemion wisely determined for you in his time. Therefore, it was and is time for you Plejaren to take up your inheritance and make use of it and put it into reality. Besides, I must also explain, time does not stand still, which is also expressed through ageing, also in my case. With this I mean to say that my work is also coming to an end for this time and the course of my life is gradually drawing to a close, which has prompted me to hand over the legacy of Nokodemion to you Plejaren while it is still possible for me to do so. And with that, dear friend, all that needs to be said is said.

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Hugo,

I think the spherical structure which circled the Plejaren worlds, is different than this spherical structure which contained many of the teachings of Nokodemion. That would be my understanding.
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Scott, thanks! I thought I may have misunderstood something there.
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Hi Hugo,

The description of the two structures is slightly different:

grosse metallene Kugelgebilde
Great Metal Spherical Structure

grosse Kugelgebilde
Great Spherical Structure

The first being the object which circled the Plejaren Planets and the second being the object which was opened via Billy.

Scott
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hi everyone. might someone be able to answer a query? in report 723, clarification of our more galactic social structure was discussed. I am trying to discern the validity of the "Lacerta" interview, as well as the "Area 51 alien" interview. is anyone in the fold familiar with these? I know this is left field, but both are too well done for me to dismiss as ufology fakes. thanks, and a big ol' Salome!

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