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Niko_sulonen
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Post Number: 113
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Posted on Monday, October 25, 2021 - 06:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is the Scientology sect a part of the shadow government?

From CR 779

Billy:
In that they then really 'govern' – precisely as a shadow government, but no one wants to admit that.

Ptaah:
Yes, and this also includes those people who are from the American sect … which also commits murders that are never solved because every murder is disguised as a suicide and 'judged' as a suicide out of fear of the sect in its favour – or because the police and the judges' guild themselves belong to the sect, as is the case especially in … This is because the murder victims, on the one hand, know too much and, on the other hand, suddenly represent a danger to the organisation, so these people who know too much and suddenly know too much are eliminated.


http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_779

From CR 614

Ptaah:
22. Since I have been involved with the machinations of this criminal organization since its inception, I can only confirm what you say.
23. The whole of the Scientology sect's endeavor, however, is not based solely on the establishment of a totalitarian world social order, but on the fact that a secret striving for effective world domination is prescribed, which is to encompass absolute control over all governments and authorities as well as armies, secret services and the entire economy.
24. And in order to achieve this, this sect is no means too small, too difficult or difficult, and consequently even the worst capital crimes must be taken into consideration.


http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_614
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Schantz
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Posted on Monday, October 25, 2021 - 09:54 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Niko,

I was thinking about who was the shadow government Billy and Ptaah were discussing.

I had yet to come up with your suggestion, but now that you have pointed it out, you may be right on the money.

A lot to digest in an 81 page Contact Report.

Many thanks to Joe for his very valuable quick translation.
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Schantz
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Post Number: 382
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Posted on Monday, October 25, 2021 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Asket%27s_Explanations_-_Part_1

131. At that time, and also even later, it will be America, Russia and China, that very strongly push for enslaving world domination, so it will not be at a later point in time the Jewish Zionists, as many people presume, who sharpen their blood sword through mass-murdering acts of violence and with the help of the Christian religion, to subjugate the Earth, rather smaller powers and various malignant sects, whereby one such really malignant one leads back to a certain Ron Hubbard.
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Monday, October 25, 2021 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_711:

Ptaah:
4. Our experts who, at your request, have dealt with the various cryptocurrencies and Bitcoin in terms of clarifying all possibilities etc., and have also made calculations, etc. for the future existence and value of the cryptocurrencies and Bitcoin, as well as the entire circumstances connected with them, and have investigated everything, have explained the following:
5. Cryptocurrencies and Bitcoin are speculators' machinations, through which those who are caught up in them, followers and believers are led to believe that they will make great profits in the future, whereby euphemistic self-deceptions, corresponding to wishful thinking, about a fact that is in reality not very positive, are in the foreground, as are deceptions and misconceptions.
6. Looking into the future, our experts have found out that cryptocurrencies and Bitcoin will not last and will not be successful in the long term, but on the contrary will cause a lot of damage, great losses and financial collapses and therefore also a lot of distress and misery as well as suicides for many Earth human beings who will lose their financial fortunes through these machinations.

Billy:
Then I guess the whole thing is nothing but a get-rich-quick illusion of confused crypto and bitcoin believers.

Ptaah:
7. Your term gets to the heart of the matter.
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Hugo
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Posted on Monday, October 25, 2021 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Niko_sulonen,

Yes that is what I meant. They will make us all use their new digital currencies after the planned ban on cash that Meier foretold.
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Niko_sulonen
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Post Number: 114
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Posted on Monday, October 25, 2021 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michael_horn,

That is the truth. Cryptocurrencies are also criminally used by large financial institutions for money laundering, tax evasion, hiding wealth and many other unimaginable criminal activities. Elon Musk and his Tesla company also recently used a cryptocurrency called 'dogecoin' to criminally hype and pump it up in value, only to later sell their share, and in that way criminally benefiting from naive "investors" and stealing their money.
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Niko_sulonen
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Post Number: 115
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Posted on Monday, October 25, 2021 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Schantz,

Good find! In my mind the Scientology sect has been one the main suspects along with the Mormons.
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Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 158
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Posted on Monday, October 25, 2021 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From FIGU Special Bulletin 030:

"The CIA is the actual secret USAmerican world government, whose headquarters, respectively, head office, is located in Langley, in the US state of Virginia. Not even the US President is ever notified about all that which the secret service, which has become a state-within-a-state, really undertakes and everything that is associated with that."

"So the CIA is not only the secret service that governs and controls the USA, rather the entire world."

The "sect" reference may be referring to the Christian religion which is also referenced several times in the same bulletin, "That especially by the Catholic Church, the Pope, his vassals and enslaved menials, and so forth.":
"George W. Bush also belongs in the same frame, who, as Evangelical sectarian, falsely believes himself to be "God's avenger on Earth", and is in the delusion that he must step forward as the protector of the world. And to that end, for him every evil and murderous as well as criminal and human-distaining means is just as good and right enough, as also, for him, stepping over masses of corpses is not more and not less than a means to fulfil a purpose, without mercy and without being moved to pity, as it also was with his father and other presidents, and will continue to be so."

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/CIA
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Niko_sulonen
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Posted on Tuesday, October 26, 2021 - 03:27 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Phi_spiral,

Thanks. Yes, those are the main players. Billy has been publicly railing against the CIA and the Catholic church for decades now. Which makes it odd that he wouldn't now mention them by name in the latest contact report. But the man has his reasons. Also Ptaah specifically mentioned an American sect, so I understood it as a sect that has it's origins in America or mainly operates in that country. Christianity and more precisely the Catholic church are based in the Vatican city.

Now what could the American sect be, that is anyone's guess. I thought of Scientology, because they have their own intelligence service (OSA) which they have used in the 70's to infiltrate into various government agencies and foreign embassies all around the world, and they have a history with the CIA.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Tuesday, October 26, 2021 - 04:22 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

CR779:
1 - ´And the problems - only of a different kind - will also be there when the time of the corona plague arrives in the second decade of the third millennium and those in power, as usual, are only looking for a momentary solution, but will not think into the far future. Life, or rather the companies as well as life, must 'go on', and the rouble must roll, that is what is generally said. And it will take 50 years before people realize that this view is wrong...
We are on the wrong planet, I suppose...
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Egerrt
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Posted on Wednesday, October 27, 2021 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No, it's not Scientology. Scientology is a tiny sect in reality compared to other sects.
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Egerrt
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http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_779


And there will be countless deaths through terrorism, as in New York, where more than 3,000 human beings will lose their lives in a terrorist aeroplane attack and the US population will be ruled terroristically for 4 years by an autocrat 20 years later.

In German:
Und es wird unzählige Tote geben durch Terrorismus, wie in New York, wo mehr als 3000 Menschen durch einen terroristischen Flugzeugangriff ihr Leben verlieren und die US-Bevölkerung 20 Jahre danach von einem Selbstherrlichen 4 Jahre lang terroristisch regiert werden wird.

Who are they talking about? 20 years later means 2021. Does it mean Trump has ruled 4 years, or 4 starting from 2021, which would mean Biden. Which one is it?
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Eddieamartin
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Posted on Wednesday, October 27, 2021 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Egerrt,
Here are my thoughts.

The current "autocrat" in the U.S.A. is Biden who is "terroristically ruling" with the vaccine mandates.. together with the propaganda villainizing the non-vaccinated.
Salome,
Eddie

In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Norm
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Post Number: 296
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Posted on Wednesday, October 27, 2021 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Biden is a puppet as they all are. I wish we could get an explanation from the Ps why a small shadow group gets to dictate for the Whole World. And BTW where is are Sphere?

Billy: "The hate belief that the Jews are secretly running a world conspiracy and that they have a secret and powerful conspiratorial grouping that determines events worldwide is a claim made up out of thin air – but this secret shadow government actually exists elsewhere, but without Jews as contributors, for it is anti-Jewish and does its sleazy conducting work worldwide through 'advisers' to the rulers, without their knowing that they spend millions annually on 'consultations' through which they are directed according to the shadow government." CR 779
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Schantz
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Posted on Wednesday, October 27, 2021 - 07:36 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Egerrt,

I completely agree wiith Eddie that the autocrat is Brandon.

Only a conspiracy theorist would think otherwise.
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Schantz
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This definition of the term autocrat seems to fit what Eddie has written.

"Autocratic describes a way of ruling, but not in a nice way. An autocratic leader is one who rules with an iron fist; in other words — someone with the behavior of a dictator. Autocratic rulers don't tend to be popular. They use fear and control to gain total power over their people."
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Thursday, October 28, 2021 - 01:52 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just who are the rogue factions of the CIA that runs the world through such an organisation is always in the back of people's minds.
Who are the flesh and blood human beings who comprises the Dark Order or Order of Darkness who controls the key parts of the CIA with embedded lackeys in key positions that cronyistically serve their masters in the Dark Order.
Even a monkey could see that Richard Soros, Henry Kissinger and his late friend Zibigniew Brzeiniski were agents of the Dark Order who did their bidding and was rewarded handsomely for it.
From politicians, business leaders, billionaires, titans of industry, CEOs, Hollywood bigwigs, cult religious leaders, corporate head honchos, directors of multinational companies, head of non profits, presidents of higher education institutions, key elements of the pentagon, directors of black budget secret special access projects, lobbyists, head of philanthropic organisations, key personnel of think tanks, UN, world bank, BIS, WHO, IMF, world bank and EU the list goes on who serve their masters in one form or another.
These sectarian, satanic, luciferian, group within a loose group, devil worshipping shadow cabal of very powerful devil worshipping people is what I think Billy was referring to who are just a handful of people who's immense wealth and power allows them to do anything they want.
They, the old moneyed intergenerational multi century line of descendants are the rulers of the world and they control everything except the truth, Creation, Billy, plejaren, future earth human beings, the foreigners to earth, the federation members and the earth.

Matt lee
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Niko_sulonen
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Posted on Thursday, October 28, 2021 - 03:50 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

CR 224 / http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_224

Billy:
As you may think fit. – We’ve already talked about this once, that the Earthlings, in addition to the Hubble Space Telescope, still want to send another one into the sky, which would be much larger. Can you explain something more about this?

Quetzal:
12. Always provided that the relevant earthly technology becomes further developed within the given framework and that the still forthcoming plans actually become realized, then approximately in the year 2025, an enormous and multipart laser space telescope will be brought into a stationary orbit around the Earth, which should mainly serve for the discovery of planets in foreign solar systems, which is why it will then also be named “Planet Seeker.”

13. This will be so, in addition to other projects of a similar nature, but ones that should already find their fulfillment earlier.


A group called AsteronX has recently published a paper called Planet Seeker Interferometer (PSI), where they present a "very large space-based optical interferometer that can be manufactured and launched within the next five years." They have also uploaded an introductory video of their design on their YouTube channel.

In my opinion their YouTube video is trying to pull on "the old heart-strings" a little too much, and considering that they are promoting their Patreon page, it comes off more as a Profit-Seeking Initiative (PSI), than a serious attempt. However, reading their paper it seems that they know what they are talking about, and their proposed design is closely similar to what Quetzal described as "an enormous and multipart laser space telescope".

Any thoughts on this?

Salome,
Niko
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Niko_sulonen
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Posted on Thursday, October 28, 2021 - 06:39 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Egert,

Billy also had this to say about Scientology.

From CR 614 / http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_614

Billy:
... And as the film shows, bribery, fraud, threats, blackmail, forgery and coercion are part of the everyday life of the psycho-sect, as well as the torture of delinquent cult members, which can probably be described as torture, in which the OSA or sect secret service also plays a major role. All this in addition to the fact that the cult infiltrates the authorities and organizations etc. and has established itself in the USA in their highest government as well as in the individual states in their authorities and their governments. The hammer was already in early sectarian time that Hillary Clinton, the wife of President Clinton, was worried that Scientology would not have to pay taxes, while Clinton himself wrote and published articles for the Scientology newspapers, suggesting something about Clinton membership of the Scientology psycho sect.
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Niko_sulonen
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Posted on Thursday, October 28, 2021 - 06:45 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Besides, I'm not suggesting that Scientology is the main sect that is controlling everything. Only that it is a part of the machinery that the secret world-government uses to further it's goals.

Salome,
Niko
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Niko_sulonen
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Newinitiation,

The Donilon brothers are an interesting bunch.

Mike Donilon, the current Senior Advisor to U.S. President Joe Biden.

Thomas E. Donilon, former National Security Advisor in the Obama administration. Also worked in Carter and Clinton administration, including as Chief of Staff of the U.S. State Department. Currently the Chairman of BlackRock Investment Institute, the global think tank of the world's largest asset manager.

Terrence Donilon is the secretary to Archdiocese of Boston, Cardinal Seán Patrick O'Malley, who is one of eight cardinals on the Council of Cardinal Advisers, which advises and helps the Pope to govern the Catholic Church.
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Michael_horn
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Regarding Scientology, it is no "tiny sect":

1953: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Asket%27s_Explanations_-_Part_1

131. At that time, and also even later, it will be America, Russia and China, that very strongly push for enslaving world domination, so it will not be at a later point in time the Jewish Zionists, as many people presume, who sharpen their blood sword through mass-murdering acts of violence and with the help of the Christian religion, to subjugate the Earth, rather smaller powers and various malignant sects, whereby one such really malignant one leads back to a certain Ron Hubbard.

132. In this regard they are already preparing the first decisive strikes in order to expand their power and to create dangerous country-controlling positions.

133. The Earth human should protect himself from providing any help to such power-greedy sects and rulers, because they cause the smallest help to become a deadly weapon against the helper, in order, therewith, to come closer, step by step, to the fulfillment of their addiction to world domination.

From CR 799:

"He lets someone of fellow humanity decide about him, religions and sects that can convincingly make him believe in the might and power of a god through lies of faith and make everything of life ‘clear’. Or he will become a slave to a sect that makes him a god himself (NB. 2021: e.g.: Scientology as ‘Operating Thetan’ (OT), ‘Spiritual Being’, which is supposed to be fundamentally as such a self or a being that, without having to use a body or physical means, can deal with all things), which furthermore mislead the human being through other belief lies in such a way, through which he becomes a believer to be great and strong and to stand above all others. (NB. 2021: The fact that one or the other member of the Scientology sect – as a rule an ‘Operating Thetan’ – ‘dies’ in the process, whose death cannot be cleared up, seems to be ‘normal’ for this sect)."
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Norm
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Posted on Thursday, October 28, 2021 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Matt lee, I think its safe to say Skull & Bones are a big part of this.

So Tesla was murdered. It wasn't clear if it was the Nazis or FBI that did it.

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