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Friteeucman Member
Post Number: 63 Registered: 09-2021
| Posted on Sunday, December 26, 2021 - 11:47 am: |
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“Explaining the more precise molecular connections in relation to which mechanisms block the receptors would also have to be explained in detail, as would the epigenetic switch-off processes that cause the inactivation of certain genes as a result of 'traces' in the brain.” F.e. rex resa: king of laughter, wisdom XrMorphea The one who dreams and shapes things to come Harmony.Sustainability.Sovereignty... -Ziffe a thire z da Ummi!
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Newinitiation Member
Post Number: 2711 Registered: 07-2005
| Posted on Sunday, December 26, 2021 - 02:27 pm: |
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Votan/Joe can you show me the source of where the ETs could possibly attack earth? Matt lee |
Votan Member
Post Number: 979 Registered: 12-2011
| Posted on Sunday, December 26, 2021 - 09:37 pm: |
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Scott I was asking if Billy had an answer to my question of why put this intricate body on earth only to turn it into dust. There has to be a better answer just to host the spirit to learn. joe
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Getknowledge Member
Post Number: 248 Registered: 04-2008
| Posted on Monday, December 27, 2021 - 10:26 am: |
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Votan, The entire material universe is subject to the law of coming, passing and renewing. Death means new life and striving, its not the end. The fragmented awakening creational energy will eventually break free from its coarse human shell in 60 billion years. If I'm correct there will be no humans in the next wake cycle. Tien
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Tat_tvam_asi Member
Post Number: 1812 Registered: 04-2011
| Posted on Monday, December 27, 2021 - 11:10 pm: |
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Tien "...there will be no humans in the next wake cycle." As far as I know ... ... There will be humans but their consciousness will partake in the universal gain of wisdom. I think Pat would be the right man to tell us. Bill |
Patm Member
Post Number: 934 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2021 - 08:14 am: |
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During the first expansion period (155.5 million-million years) the DERN-Universe (Creation Universal Consciousness) and its 7 main universes in different space-time configurations, i.e., dimensions were first created (46.5 million-million years ago - the 'Big Bang') with no course-substantial matter, but rather only fine fluidalness (6 belts) which all continued to evolve/expand for 45 million-million years, at which point coarse-substantial matter, i.e., the matter-belt came into existence (1.5 million-million years ago) and will only exist for 2.5 (2.401) million-million years (914 thousand-million years from now), never to exist again. The remaining 6 belts, with no coarse-substantial matter, but rather only fine-fluidalness will continue to evolve/expand for 108 million-million years at which point the first Contraction period will begin. The human beings with a conscious-consciousness first came into existence 10 thousand-million years ago and along with all other coarse-susbstantial matter will cease to exist 914 thousand-million years from now, at which point all human creation-energy forms (spirit forms) will have evolved into and through the 'High-Council' and into and through the pure-spirit form levels. This is explained better in graphical form in the Creational timeline drawing at: https://creationaltruth.org/Portals/0/Documents/Reference%20Material/Spiritual/Creational%20Timeline-sec.pdf Hope this helps PatM |
Kenneth Member
Post Number: 1391 Registered: 04-2013
| Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2021 - 06:06 pm: |
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Scott & et al., Just a curiosity question regarding the Hardem extraterrestrials. We know from the Contact Notes that they had advanced technologies to penetrate our space time structure. "which may have caused the Plejaren to leave Earth to avoid conflict with them…" If the Plejaren left Earth, and presuming that the Hardem looked like some of the vast number of human being races on and off the Earth, we truly do not know if the Hardem set foot on Earth? Being that the Hardem are more intelligent and technically more advanced than Earthlings, who knows what they were involved in? Regards Kenneth |
Scott Moderator
Post Number: 3532 Registered: 12-1999
| Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2021 - 08:26 pm: |
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Hi Kenneth, Although it wasn't stated that I recall, I don't believe they were able to carry out their plans, but what those plans were exactly I don't know. Although it was mentioned they were able to penetrate our dimension it is unclear whether they actually traveled to this solar system. The threat must have been fairly serious for the Plejaren to pullout and shut down their operations, fortunately the situation took a turn for the better... |
Tat_tvam_asi Member
Post Number: 1814 Registered: 04-2011
| Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2021 - 08:50 pm: |
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Thank you, Pat. Salome, Bill |
Savio Senior Member
Post Number: 848 Registered: 07-2000
| Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2021 - 05:24 am: |
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I am not sure about the information within the timeline pdf: Coarse-substantial matter, thus the matter-belt will exist for about 2.5(2.401) million-million years Within - Step 5 of the 49 Matter-belt Renewal Phases - …: “The oldest solidly compacted matter found in the matter-universe is 40-45 million-million years old.” Hence the oldest matter found is much older than the existence of the material belt. On the other hand, within FIGU Bulletin No.5 – pages 9-12: "At any given time, therefore, only young matter can be found in the Material Universe; matter that can, at best, be a mere 40 or 45 billion years old -" Would it be a typo within the pdf? Salome Savio http://billybooks.org
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Patm Member
Post Number: 935 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2021 - 07:17 am: |
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@Savio, Thank you for the keen eye. You are correct in Step 5 it should read “The oldest solidly compacted matter found in the matter-universe is 40-45 thousand-million years old.” This has been corrected in the drawing at the same link (https://creationaltruth.org/Portals/0/Documents/Reference%20Material/Spiritual/Creational%20Timeline-sec.pdf) with the drawing dated 29-Dec-2021. RE: FIGU Bulletin No.5 – pages 9-12 it is correctly translated as 40 to 45 thousand-million see: https://creationaltruth.org/Portals/0/Documents/Periodicals/FIGU%20Bulletins/1995-Vol1/Bulletin005/What-is-the-Matter-Belt-sec.pdf Not sure where you got your translation, since "billion" should not be used in German to English translations. see: https://creationaltruth.org/Portals/0/Documents/Reference%20Material/Large%20Number%20Names%20and%20translating%20German%20to%20English-sec.pdf Thanks again PatM |
Eddieamartin Member
Post Number: 1419 Registered: 08-2010
| Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2021 - 11:21 am: |
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Re; The Hardem As I have understood my reading: The Plejaren dissolved their stations here on Earth and removed any evidence of them ever having been here. Doing so was (appeared to be) a calculated tactical move to avoid providing the Hardem with data relative to Earth and the Nokodemion efforts here. This would have avoided a terrible murder of the Hardem people who would have been no match against the technology capabilities of the Sonaer. We should be careful not to underestimate the Plejaren because of Ptaah's modesty. Clearly, as Billy pointed out, the Plejaren saw themselves in the Hardem; Keep in mind that the Plejaren themselves attempted to destroy the Sphere that circled their planets some 50,000 years ago. Had the Hardem reached Earth, they would have disrupted, not only the efforts of the Nokodemion personalities, but would have disrupted said efforts to stimulate the natural evolutionary progression of Earth human beings because a premature exposure would have occurred and which would have been devastating to so many innocent victims of religiosity here on Earth. Had the Hardem reached Earth and simply subjugated Earth, then imagine being under the watchful eye of telepathic technologies that kept data of every single human being. Said technology would utilize advanced intelligence (A.I.) to track, identify and isolate anyone breaking the rules and/or forming a resistance militia group. Very impressive to me is the truly peace-loving nature of the Plejaren and their great courage to utilize the causality factor and the virtues spoken of in the Goblet Of The Truth. To bring about reason and a self asserted change to the good and noble in the Hardem; First by example and secondly through their knowledge, wisdom and love which only comes via the cognition of our coexistence with everyone and everything (creations of the Creation). May we all learn from their example and be more effective with our assisting the FIGU efforts. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Kenneth Member
Post Number: 1393 Registered: 04-2013
| Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2021 - 03:31 pm: |
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Hi Eddie Thank you for your perceptive on the CR readings regarding the Hardem. Very well said. Salome Kenneth |
Savio Senior Member
Post Number: 849 Registered: 07-2000
| Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2021 - 08:50 pm: |
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Hi PatM Thank you so much for the update and the message to clear up the large number problems The source of my message is quoted from the English Edition of “FIGU Bulletin No. 5” published in June 1996, perhaps, during that time, the problem of large number is not yet cleared up until 2014. Thanks and Salome Savio http://billybooks.org
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Eddieamartin Member
Post Number: 1421 Registered: 08-2010
| Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2021 - 10:19 am: |
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Thank you Kenneth. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Ilovebilly Member
Post Number: 724 Registered: 04-2011
| Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2021 - 04:21 pm: |
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I reckon if the Hardem invaded we would probably be a part of The Federation by now as the Hardem where admited after changing ways, eheh ilovebilly Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Joe Member
Post Number: 679 Registered: 11-2008
| Posted on Friday, December 31, 2021 - 08:16 am: |
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DeepL preliminary English translation of Contact Report 788 http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_788 |
Tat_tvam_asi Member
Post Number: 1821 Registered: 04-2011
| Posted on Friday, December 31, 2021 - 09:53 am: |
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Insightful Logic. Thank you, Eddy. Salome, Bill |
Eddieamartin Member
Post Number: 1424 Registered: 08-2010
| Posted on Friday, December 31, 2021 - 12:09 pm: |
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Salome Bill, thank you. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Tat_tvam_asi Member
Post Number: 1823 Registered: 04-2011
| Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2022 - 01:08 am: |
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Thank you for the speedy translation, Joe. Salome, Bill |
Newinitiation Member
Post Number: 2713 Registered: 07-2005
| Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2022 - 11:25 pm: |
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Do any of you members ever come across anything from the contact reports about the longskulls having any contact with any of the members from the federation? Cheers Matt lee |
Stardustwilly Member
Post Number: 117 Registered: 01-2015
| Posted on Monday, January 03, 2022 - 06:08 pm: |
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Can anybody sometime explain in more detail, what the Hardem had planned for us, and why we would be in the federation if they had, and why would the Sonars get involved? |
Eddieamartin Member
Post Number: 1428 Registered: 08-2010
| Posted on Monday, January 03, 2022 - 11:06 pm: |
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To Stardustwilly As I so far came to understand it. According to the contact report, it appears the Hardem were executing espionage operations to try and find weaknesses or vulnerabilities within the Plejaren federation. There is a creational recommendation that says "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound in gold" (just kidding, but the principle is the same). The Sonaer are technologically very far superior to the Plejaren who have received many advanced technologies from the Sonaer. According to Ptaah, the Hardem were, in some or many cases, somewhat developed similar to the Plejaren (without the advancements provided by the Sonaer). That being the case, the Hardem would have likely met their death in an all out assault and war had they attacked the Plejaren as they would not have been a match against the Sonaer technological capabilities. It doesn't appear that the Hardem were informed about Earth, which is why the Plejaren foresaw avoiding this possibility by simply removing any evidence of their activities here. The Sonaer and the Plejaren are of one people, so therefore friends of one another. It is highly doubtful that had the Hardem conquered Earth and thereafter eventually had a change of heart, that this would have qualified them to be received into the Plejaren federation right away. After abandoning the subjugation of Earth and turning towards peace, and eventually being accepted into the Plejaren federation, this would not automatically qualify Earth. For Earth terrestrials to be accepted into the Plejaren federation, we would need to be much further evolved according to their directives and membership requirements. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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