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Author Message Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1840 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2022 - 09:55 am:        Hi Eddie, I, too, was initially of the impression that this “virus reactivation” would not mean being infectious. But there are several CR passages which made me come to a different conclusion: 1. First, in CR 737 if you replace “can” with is able to” which is another way of translating “kann”, then sentence 11 reads “because the virus continues to exist … it can unexpectedly flare up again once more [and] display its full activity, just as the danger of infection is able to continue to exist.” 2. In CR 787 Billy tells us “ Nor do they (1) even have a clue that the virus will never be eradicated, but will continue to exist impulsively for all time and will one day strike again in a completely changed mutative form, and that itself … However, I am not to say anything about this, because Sfath said … So, I say nothing more in this respect. The makes one wonder (2): What did Billy mean with the … (3 dots) about which he cannot give any further information? I may be mistaken but a deep sentiment tells me what Billy was going to say was “ … that this virus impulse may in a completely changed mutative form strike again one day and that itself will then become a new pandemic but Sfath told me not to speak about it.” If I remember it right there was as well one further text passage in one of the CRs in which Billy explains to Florena / Bermunda (?) that a person that recovered from the disease could at a later time in his life be infectious again. As for the “time of anarchism and pandemics” being close – Hugo mentioned this first and we discussed it on several occasions (4) Salome, Bill (1) This refers to "Earthly virologists, epidemiologists, researchers, scientists, doctors and other medical practitioners of all branches" (2) There is as well the question “how can a virus-impulse that is “in a slumber” within a human body (I think Ptaah told Billy it is stored in the antibodies of the human immune system) create a mutated form? I have no answer for that. (3) In this respect we should not forget what Billy told us in CR 781 “Knowing too much is usually harmful in relation to predictions because the human being wants to be cleverer and more clever than fate, which has certain determinations that cannot be circumvented or otherwise changed, so that what is unalterable will come to pass and happen.” (4) http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/18615.html#POST91374 http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/18615.html#POST91363 BTW - BG has just “warned of pandemics far worse than Covid-19”. (maybe he follows our discussions? Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1841 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2022 - 10:30 am:        Hi Hugo, I concur with Eddy. In addition, the moderators would know that I myself have withdrawn some reports about the cruel Covid 19 situation we are in. But I felt that this article (1837) is as much about Covid-19 (cause) as it is about the Henoch Prophecies (effect) . Salome, Bill Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1842 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2022 - 11:51 am:        Bob / Kenneth The HK quote may not be true. But 11 days ago, in a TV Talk Show, the Minister of Health of one major European country rejected to follow the “Letting the virus run freely” (as practiced in ... (other countries) explaining that it would be a “(planned) contagion” and “an unethical bet” which he “would never recommend”. Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1439 Registered: 08-2010 Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2022 - 04:20 pm:        Hello Bill, This is why Ptaah's comments require clarifications: The way in which they structure their thoughts and articulate themselves has some interesting, yet subtle differences from the way we speak. Billy sometimes asks them for clarification of their statement, and often, because Billy understands what they are expressing, offers the reader an explanation whereby he states; "If I understood you, then you mean to say"// to which the Plejaren says; "Yes, that was the meaning of my words." The impulse-triggers Ptaah is referring to are explained in the book Might Of The Thoughts. So the power of the consciousness, being neutral, effectuates both the negative and positive in our thoughts, therefore stimuli, and this stimuli transfers itself between human beings via the swinging waves. The psyche can be energized (affected) by internal as well as external stimuli. So the mere appearance of a formerly infected person, showing symptoms, can trigger a corresponding stimuli in the observer. So similar to the placebo effect, except in this case the material parts of the virus remaining in the body, the impulse-triggers via the psyche and swinging waves, the viral material is thereby stimulated (resonates) and the body and cells will have a reaction. This reaction then again affects the psyche which affects the thoughts, which then cycle again and a vicious trigger cycle is brought about. So Ptaah's statement requires clarification, in order that we do not negatively affect our own psyche unnecessarily, nor create any belief because of some incorrect or misguided conclusion, or because we have not yet come across all the relevant and pertinent information. Myself, lacking Ptaah's virology PhD, and other related PhD's, I cannot say conclusively, that the impulse-triggers create a transmissible viral infection via the aerosols from the lungs. In my current sense of logic, this is not possible... so I would like to have Ptaah's statement clarified so that I (we) do not burden our psyche unnecessarily and go forward in life in fear and anxiety as it is explained and addressed in the book Might Of The Thoughts. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) Kenneth Member Post Number: 1399 Registered: 04-2013 Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2022 - 05:28 pm:        Keep in mind that those that have contracted the varicella-zoster virus (VCV), commonly known as Chicken Pox can later develop shingles. MAYO Clinic: Shingles is caused by the varicella-zoster virus — the same virus that causes chickenpox. After you've had chickenpox, the virus lies inactive in nerve tissue near your spinal cord and brain. Years later, the virus may reactivate as shingles. The Corona Virus appears to mimic this course of action. Kenneth Hugo Member Post Number: 1085 Registered: 04-2015 Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2022 - 05:37 pm:        Eddieamartin, I hope you are right that no offense would taken with this part of the virus discussion. I never seem to know where the discussion limits is with this topic. I hate to see this section of the forum also get shut down. Tat_tvam_asi, Are you talking about when I put forward my opinion about the "good times being over" for everyone now that this virus has started? I think I brought that up at start of 2020. Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1843 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2022 - 09:12 pm:        Hi Eddy, You are right: To be completely sure we would need a clarification. But Billy and Ptaah might be hesitant to speak about it because if another "mutated virus infection-outbreak" may occur, it immediately triggers the next question - if the many millions of recovered people can again be infectious, will there be another pandemic or waves of pandemics? And this, Billy had to promise Sfath, he would not tell. Salome, Bill Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1844 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2022 - 09:37 pm:        Hi Kenneth, Excellent find. Thank you so much. So, there are some viruses that “mutate while being inactive in the human body”. It adds credibility and substance to Billy’s statement “that this virus impulse may in a completely changed mutative form strike again one day”. Thank you – you really found the missing puzzle piece. Salome, Bill Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1845 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2022 - 05:04 am:        Hi Hugo, Yes Hugo. It was your post on April 17, 2020 (1). I wanted to credit you for connecting the Covid-19 pandemic with the Henoch Prophecies. Salome, Bill (1) http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/18157.html#POST89187 Hugo Member Post Number: 1086 Registered: 04-2015 Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2022 - 02:14 pm:        Tat_tvam_asi, Thanks but it's not necessary to credit me for that as it was just something that most people who read the contact notes would have sooner or later realized. The good times are indeed over. I admire your good memory in not only remembering what people posted here years ago but also from the contact notes too. You often pull things out and post things I had forgotten or sometimes not noticed in my read through. Thanks! Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1440 Registered: 08-2010 Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2022 - 05:15 pm:        To Tat_tvam_asi Bill I second Hugo's statement that you do a very appreciative job of posting things which are thought stimulating and always very informative. Anyway, I too wanted to express my appreciation of your participation here. Naturally, that includes everyone like Phispiral and Kenneth and everyone. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1846 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Friday, January 21, 2022 - 03:40 am:        You are welcome, Hugo and Eddy. I, too, thank you, Kenneth and Bob for your valuable findings / contributions. Salome, Bill Kenneth Member Post Number: 1403 Registered: 04-2013 Posted on Monday, January 24, 2022 - 10:10 am:        In contact Report 770, Bermunda talks about effects on the human fetus. “…In this prenatal phase, however, many characteristics of the mother also have an effect on the foetus, which are also transferred to it in such a way that they strongly shape it and remain inherent in its development into an actual physical human being up to and after birth and remain with it for life. These influences on the foetus – which are transmitted by the mother to her foetus at an early age and are absorbed and retained by the foetus, thus exerting a great influence on it – arise equally with regard to the general physical well-being and with regard to the prenatal mental constitutional development which begins at a very early age, which after birth, in a conscious as well as unconscious way, evolves through the development in the main pubertal phase higher than character formation and character behaviour, as you have also often mentioned and explained in our conversations…” http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_770 - - - - - - - - - - - - - Years ago, before I was introduced to the Teaching, during the wife’s pregnancy and a few years after our son’s birth. I had this strong urge (impulse?) to play many of the classical classics such as Bach; Beethoven; Brahms; Mozart; Tchaikovsky, etcetera. As Christopher matured, he gravitated towards playing classical music on a violin and eventually became part of the Walking Violinist tour group in school, among other advanced talents. He was the only one in the family genealogy that I’m aware of that took to wholesome sensible music. Kenneth Joe Member Post Number: 681 Registered: 11-2008 Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2022 - 04:44 am:        DeepL preliminary English translation of Contact Report 790 http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_790 Reen71b Member Post Number: 61 Registered: 09-2020 Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2022 - 01:19 pm:        @Kenneth Very interesting. I'll have to read the full CR 770. It's also interesting you should share this when I just read CR 768, especially where it talks about the central pubertal phase. I recommend reading this as it has a lot to do with why people, especially the older generation, seems to behave like children. It's very interesting to know that even in the womb, the fetus is affected. Maureen Kenneth Member Post Number: 1404 Registered: 04-2013 Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2022 - 08:55 pm:        Hi Maureen (Reen71b), Yes, I have read Contact Report 768, however I’m in the process of re-reading this CR again, thanks for bringing this to my attention. It is like reading an advanced medical journal. If only the medical professionals could get over their cultivated blindness and read Billy’s material, they would be some much further ahead… Billy: “… those who fancy themselves as highborn and wise and think that they have eaten their wisdom with shovel diggers, precisely those who know everything better anyway and crown themselves with titles such as philosopher, doctor and scientist, and who are vigorously beguiling and convincing themselves that they are the crown of creation and must therefore deny, deny and nullify everything that they cannot grasp with their intellect, intellect and reason.” Kind regards Kenneth Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1849 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Wednesday, January 26, 2022 - 03:22 am:        Thank you, Joe. Thank you as well Kenneth and Maureen Very interesting, indeed. Salome, Bill Scott Moderator Post Number: 3560 Registered: 12-1999 Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2022 - 07:08 am:        Hello, CR 60 mentions an encounter with two people from Proxima Centauri in Trinidad by an earth person. This person at the time made a sketch of how he remembers them during his meeting. The drawings were sent to Billy, at which time Semjase commented she knew them. Recently I suggested to the person making these computer enhanced images, could he update the images as they appeared in CR 60. He did, and the updated images were shown to Billy recently who said as far as he remembers they were a good likeness to these two men Athar and Kohun. Scott Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1854 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2022 - 09:34 am:        Excellent Work - Thank you, Scott. These are really very photo-like images. If there are no copyright issues - please add them to CR 60 (FoM). Salome, Bill Matthew Member Post Number: 198 Registered: 03-2011 Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2022 - 11:37 am:        Contact report 790 is a fascinating read. Did Adam and Eve eat Cannabis fruit? From other information from FIGU [citation needed] it was clarified that the forbidden fruit of Adam and Eve was not an apple but an extra-terrestrial fruit that had hallucinogenic properties. Could this fruit have been a specialised cultivation of the Cannabis plant so that it produced a large apple-like fruit? From Wikipedia's page about 'Cannabis': Here's a drawing by German botanist and gardener Walther Otto Müller (1833 – 1887) of the cannabis plant in different stages of growth. Please note number 7. Hemp plant. 1 Male flower, enlarged detail; 5 female flower with cover petal; 6 female flower, cover petal removed; 7 female fruit cluster, longitudinal section; 8 fruit with cover petal; 9 same without cover petal; 10 same; 11 same in cross-section; 12 same in longitudinal section; 13 seed without hull. Is it possible that the non-edible dry fruit pictured in number 7 could be cultivated to be much larger and fleshier and it was this fruit that hung in the mythical garden of Eden? Think this has been postulated before. Also in regard to the mention in contact report 790 about females publishing as famous male authors, some have speculated that Shakespeare's works were written by his former partner Anne Whateley who, the story goes, was meant to marry Shakespeare, but was usurped by Anna Hathaway's family due their daughter's pregnancy. Here is the relevant info about 'Anne Whateley' from Wikipedia: Authorship speculations Main article: Shakespeare authorship question After Harris's initial argument a number of imaginative claims were made about Anne Whateley, most dramatically that she was the true author of Shakespeare's works. This argument was made by William Ross in his book The Story of Anne Whateley and William Shaxpere (1939),[13] in which he asserted that Whateley was a nun who was his "lover and consort in their spiritual union". She was born in 1561, the daughter of the well-known seafarer Anthony Jenkinson. She was living a secluded life among the nuns of the Order of St. Clare when she met Shakespeare. They fell in love, and Anne was about to leave the order to marry him when Hathaway revealed her pregnancy. Her authorship can be deduced from the sonnets, which she wrote as gifts to Shakespeare. They describe the history of her spiritual relationship with him. Hathaway is the Dark Lady of the sonnets, while Shakespeare himself is the Fair Youth. Their intimate friendship continued after his marriage to Hathaway; its deepening spirituality is explored in the later sonnets. Eventually the friendship was broken up by Hathaway's jealousy, and Shakespeare left for London. She wrote A Lover's Complaint, which was appended to the sonnets, to express Anne Hathaway's point of view. Matthew Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2719 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2022 - 11:49 am:        Fantastic Scott they do look human indeed now and not just a sketch beings. Great work to both. Matt lee Kenneth Member Post Number: 1407 Registered: 04-2013 Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2022 - 03:05 pm:        Scott, you are on a roll, while you are at it, how about a sketch of Henoch (Henok). Just kidding, this is way beyond anyone's ability, except for maybe one person... Salome Kenneth Scott Moderator Post Number: 3561 Registered: 12-1999 Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2022 - 05:29 pm:        Thanks Matt and Kenneth, I have two more images which may be available , but I don't want to say anything until everything is allowed to be shared.

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