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Reen71b
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Post Number: 70
Registered: 09-2020
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2022 - 04:26 pm: | 
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This may be far fetched but I wouldn't put it past the powers that be if they created a weakened and fast spreading variant (omicron) in order to push the herd immunity (which will not work).
Maureen
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1424
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2022 - 10:24 am: |
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Hi Eddie,
I hope that you are correct Eddie, “… the pandemic will come to an end, or start coming under control, before or by end of this year.”
In the Contact Report 792 on 29th of January 2022
Bermunda: 
... The fact is, however, that those responsible for the state, namely the state leaders on the whole Earth, are acting irresponsibly with regard to the Corona plague.
Their constant ups and downs, depending on how the Corona plague develops, i.e. whether it rises or subsides, are correspondingly prescribing universal behavioural strategies for the peoples. If the infections and deaths etc. rise again, then orders and decrees of restrictions are given, but these are lifted again as soon as the numbers of infections and deaths fall again. So, in this respect, it is a constant up and down, instead of finally thinking correctly and acting correctly, namely by ordering the wearing of respirators, the orderly keeping of distance from one human being to another human beings of general permanence, thus containing the pandemic and slowly but surely bringing it to a standstill. Furthermore, it would make sense for public events of all kinds to be banned for the duration of the pandemic. In such a way that the wearing of respirators and the necessary keeping of distance is strictly prescribed by the state leaders and also observed by the populations – which of course would have to be controlled by security agencies – would slowly phase out the Corona epidemic.
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Where I am located in Arizona (U.S.), orders and decrees of restrictions from those responsible, including state leaders, protocols are put in place, then lifted again as soon as the numbers of infections and deaths drop. It is a roller coaster ride, people are getting upset with the indecision, some are throwing the protocols aside. This as the Plejaren stated make the Pandemic last for a long time
Salome,
Kenneth |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1453
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2022 - 10:21 pm: |
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Hello Kenneth,
Yes, all of that contributes to the continuation of the pandemic, even making it worse.
So in the midst of that, in order to bring the pandemic under control, there would have to be a solution (factor) that does not rely on these State leaders around the world.
That's the factor that determines whether the pandemic comes under control... because it indeed is as Bermunda pointed out.
This factor (solution) is making its way to becoming widely available, and already demonstrating huge success without side effects.
This "solution", these compounds, are "antivirals" and currently being used in hospitals. These antivirals should be widely available starting within the next two months.
Logic states that if these antivirals continue to have the efficacy they continue to demonstrate without side effects, then once widely available, the pandemic should begin to come under control.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1881
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Friday, February 25, 2022 - 10:33 am: |
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Hi Eddy,
Today’s catchword is 'endemicity' (1)
That is to say: More and more countries allow (if you are vaccinated) “free travel – everything open” - no protection at all - no quarantine when you are sick etc. (e.g. COVID-19 infected people in England won’t be legally required to self-isolate) - Denmark scraps most pandemic restrictions - Many EU countries opt to reopen despite record infections
As this is just the opposite of Bermunda’s advice (see Kenneth’s post above) an end to the pandemic by the EOY may hardly be possible:
Billy in CR 792:
“Although I am no genius when it comes to medical knowledge, I know, as I have learned from Sfath about medicine and also know the matter of the Corona plague, that no actual medicine or other medicinal remedy helps, because the Corona virus, which mutates again and again, does not really respond to micronutrients – at least at present and for a long time in the future.”
(1) “Endemic” *) translates into
Step 1:
Pushing vaccination rates up to 80-90 % by telling people “everyone will be infected”
(but because of your vaccination your sickness will be mild)
Step 2: Complete opening up (no lockdowns etc.)
Step 2 may explain why many if not most countries pushed / are pushing so hard for vaccinations:
Billy: "Der Rubel muss rollen" - The r[o]uble (the money) must keep rolling (in)) = the businesses have to keep going [on]-
"And it will take 50 years before they realize that this view was wrong ..." (Billy in CR 779)
The core problem: Media / virologists et al
1- Overvalue the effect of vaccinations
2- Tabu: Vaccination side effects - Speaking about them is tabu
3– Undervalue Covid-19 – “Mild like a flu” - Long Covid hardly mentioned
Google for “Science Daily - How many people get 'long COVID'? More than half, researchers find”
Google for “Long Covid cases rise to 1.2 million and are ‘notably higher’ in teenagers and young adults”
In the schools of some countries there are no regular (daily/weekly) tests for the virus at all – only students that show “symptoms while in school” are tested and parents are told to pick up their infected child.
(Mask-wearing: o/s class: compulsory – in class: optional)
Telling the school that there may as well be infected but asymptomatic students/teachers who may infect fellow students/teachers, too – no reply.
*) Like the phrase “Covid-19” “Endemic” is a catchphrase to make a plague sound “more popular, manageable and mild”.
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Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1454
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Friday, February 25, 2022 - 02:40 pm: |
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Hello Bill
Yes, I know about the "medicines" Billy is referring to. Turns out it's just a marketing ploy devised by the vaccine manufacturers. They're absolutely useless; nor are they being pushed.
All the factors you pointed out I'm aware of and considered. As I see it, the pandemic should be coming under control within the next few months or towards the end of the year.
I'm excited to see if (how much) I'm correct (accurate). Because hit or miss, this is an opportunity to further with my personal exploration of the consciousness.
QUICK QUESTION:
What is "EOY"?
(Quote): As this is just the opposite of Bermunda’s advice (see Kenneth’s post above) an end to the pandemic by the EOY may hardly be possible:
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1884
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2022 - 01:31 pm: |
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Hi Eddie,
EOY is short for End Of Year.
Salome, Bill |
Hugo
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Post Number: 1103
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2022 - 06:20 pm: |
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During the first year of the Corona virus breakout Billy advised people not to panic and continue leaving their investments/money where they normally do.
Now we are in a time of rampant inflation. Has Billy said anything to anyone in his group about inflation? Is it going to retreat or continue on it's upwards trajectory?
I kind of feel like we are entering the prophecies Billy foretold about the financial collapse, civil wars, ect. |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1433
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2022 - 09:21 pm: |
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Hi Hugo,
Your statement, “…Billy advised people not to panic and continue leaving their investments/money where they normally do.”
Whenever anyone panics, one loses control. It is my understanding that the financial collapse started some years back. Weather one leaves their fiat money (inconvertible paper money made legal tender by a government decree) in the bank or under the mattress, the result will be the same.
People panicking and withdrawing their funds, only increases the inevitable. Don’t panic and enjoy it while you can. IMO.
Kenneth |
Eddie
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Post Number: 16
Registered: 07-2020
| | Posted on Monday, March 21, 2022 - 11:47 am: |
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Hello Hugo
I have not come across any recent statements from Billy about inflation.
But I do take issue with CR691. Billy mentions a lot about financial developments such as:
CR691: "…it must thereby be an actual fact that the small clique of might-obsessed, the super-rich and capitalistic wealthy, to which the world belongs as a consequence of their financial might, can no longer control it"
I am not sure we are there yet, but there are two very decisive factors that tell something about inflation, that is:
1) How much currency is printed
2) The turnover rate of the currency printed
Here's an official tally of how much currency the US has printed over the last 60 years:
In the last 60 years or so, about $21.8 trl has been printed, but what is particularly interesting is that about 1/3 ($7 trl.) of these have been printed in the last 2 years...
How many of these new means of payment were circulated in society (turnover of money)? Well, here's an official tally of how much the turnover rate is for the printed currency:
Over the last 20+ years, the turnover of means of payment has been declining, and the last 2 years it have NOT increased turnover (the curve is flat). Means of payment that are not translated e.g. into increased consumption or productivity, do not contribute to increased turnover in society, and lead to greater and greater challenges in improving a nations GDP, in other words: The means of payment that are produced contribute very little to increased growth in the national economy - and - the increased indebtedness that was necessary to produce the $7 trl. in two years has resulted in nothing but very weak growth in society. So for every $1 produced there is a value in society that is less than $1.
Has the FED lost control? Maybe, they stated in April 2021 that inflation would be transitory. At that time, inflation in the US was 4.2% according to the CPI. This month inflation is 7.9% according to CPI - is it transitory?
The Fed's new target is for US inflation to hover around 2%, and with last week's commitment to 0.25% rate hike now, and 7 more rate hikes later, inflation may be held in check at best, but that's a looooong way from 7.9% to 2%, IMO.
Salome
Eddie |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1578
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Monday, March 21, 2022 - 08:15 pm: |
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Meier's information regarding the fall of the dollar, goes back to 2006:
https://theyflyblog.com/2011/05/that-which-has-no-substance/ |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1435
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2022 - 06:55 am: |
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Regarding this statement from Billy, Henoch, (Enoch):
…and as Henoch (Enoch) had foretold thousands of years ago, “The military politics of the USA will likewise know no limits, as neither will their economic and other political institutions which will be focused on building and operating a world police force, as it is the case already for a long time [sic]. But that will not be enough, and, in the guise of a so-called peaceful globalisation, American politics will aspire to GAIN ABSOLUTE CONTROL OF THE WORLD concerning supremacy in economy.
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It comes to mind that when the Plejaren and Billy talked about the elimination (removal) of the Bafath from Egypt, whom had been there for a very long time working to GAIN ABSOLUTE CONTROL OF THE WORLD and its populaces, those Bafath that died on Earth must reincarnate of Earth according to Cosmic Law. Those in power today also want to GAIN ABSOLUTE CONTROL OF THE WORLD and its inhabitants…
Many have asked me if these humans in power today (USA) could be some of the reincarnated Bafath of long ago? It is a good question the makes logical sense. I could not find the answer to anywhere in the FIGU archives. Nonetheless, these answers could be in the German section as I have not mastered the German language yet?
Salome
Kenneth |
Hugo
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Post Number: 1104
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2022 - 04:26 pm: |
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Kenneth and Eddie,
It's all a worry what I'm seeing right now. A lot of people were already struggling to make ends meet before this runaway high inflation hit. Example like I've just been watching many youtube videos of (middle class) people in the U.S. stealing fuel from gas stations and even from other peoples cars at night by drilling a hole in their tanks.
But it's not just in the U.S. we are seeing high inflation but all (Western?) nations. I'm surprised how much more I'm paying for my groceries and other goods here in Australia.
If this runaway inflation continues I can imagine seeing civil riots in the streets of lots of nations. And I don't see this high rising inflation stopping even if the Ukraine situation ends. Also, is it inflation why everything is going up or is it because everyone's money is losing value? Seems like two sides of the same coin.
Billy was right in advising people not to change their investments habits when the virus hit because I remember stocks, property and practically everything else rebounded at the time he gave that advice. I'm hoping he will do the same again and give some advice/foresight with this inflation problem. But I think there is no good advice he can give here. This must be close to the start of Billy's foretold greatest depression in history, which will probably last a decade. |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1897
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2022 - 06:20 am: |
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You may be on to something, Kenneth:
This is, indeed, a very valid research question: what previous personalities had those that want to gain ABSOLUTE CONTROL OF THE WORLD - what situations did they then create? (1)
Some 40 % of Edgar Cayce readings for US Americans had a previous incarnation in Atlantis and that may not be an accident (2). But there were as well nuclear holocausts in 387,000 BCE (Asael and Semjasa(3) and in 40,000 BCE (between descendants of Pelegon’s races)
We may not call it "karma" but one would assume that, to commence their evolution, the people who died then are reborn into our world when there are similar situations developing.
Would this explain the "1767 AD to now" 'shadow' government Billy mentions in the latest CR? Hitler’s connection with the Thule Arus society (5) which as we know was inspired by the Giza Intel, it would certainly be a part.
It would help to know more about the thinking of leaders and the people then, what motivated them, their leaders' decision making, the causes of the human holocausts, It would be interesting to know more about their reincarnation (e.g., "Arus was reborn as … ") and the evolution. But even Otto Muck is only traced as far back as Plato (Could his broad chest make him a reincarnation of Atlan?  ) –
Why are some or many historic details about the Plejaren on our planet tabu? (5).
Just like knowing the effects of the Covid-sickness and -vaccination), which provided us with a better-quality decision-making, would not knowing our roots and the consequences of them give us a better chance to work towards the right outcomes?
That is to say - Our Here and Now, if it is a ripple effect of our past (6) then knowing the true (pre)historic causes will lead us to overcome our current problems and give us a better cause and effect evaluation.
Our task at hand - is it not to disseminate the truth?
To create a different consciousness?
And if so: Would the knowledge and revelation of past causes not start the 'healing process' - similar to what Edgar Cayce’s readings did to individual humans?
Bill
(1)
The piling of nuclear arms in our time - could there have been a similar arms pile-up before 9498 BCE / 40,000 BCE / 387,000 BCE?
The psychopathic Arus – the psychopathic Giza Intel - is there any relation to some of the psychopathic leaders of our time?
The pure race that Arus wanted to keep and his scheming – has it not some similarities with Nazi Germany?
(2)
“Be it true that there is the fact of reincarnation and the souls that once occupied such an environs (i.e. Atlantis) are entering the earth’s sphere and inhabiting individuals in the present, is it any wonder that - if they made such alterations in the affairs of earth in their day (i.e. previous incarnation), as to bring destruction upon themselves – if they are entering now, they might make any changes in the affairs of peoples and individuals in the present.” (Edgar Cayce, Reading 364-1)
(3)
CR 191:45 – 78 (387,000 BCE First two nuclear wars on our planet Sejasa vs. Asasel (father of the dark races on our planet))
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_191
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Black_People
(4)
CR 70:89-113
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_070
CR703:12 and thereafter (more detailed explanation but the dates make it very confusing)
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_703
(5) CR 34:104 (Thule Arus Society)
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_034
Billy:
Is it possible that perhaps some alien people have their hands in the game?
You spoke of the Thule Arus Society and of another galaxy or of the Arus allies. Arus was an alien after all.
Semjase:
104. I am not allowed to give any official information about that yet.
(6)
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/14760.html#POST78429
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1898
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2022 - 09:16 am: |
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Hugo:
I, too, think that the war in the Ukraine and the pandemic will inflate prices and affect the economies in most countries.
As for Billy’s prophecies / predictions:
Billy did not lately mention much about the economy.
But he did so in his (October 2017 =) CR 691 Probabilities Calculations.
For economic developments the passages CR 691:22-43 are a “must-read”/
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_691
Another a/c of developments in our time is Sfath’s 1948 Predictions/Prophecies in CR 670: 206 – 218
They contain as well an ominous message re. Russia which may seem– in view of what is happening in the Ukraine (missiles hitting Ukrainian apartment blocks) – the opposite of what most people would think.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_670
Bill |
Friteeucman
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Post Number: 124
Registered: 09-2021
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2022 - 12:15 pm: |
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Is it interesting that you mention Arus in connection to Hitler; as they where the same Creational-Energy-Force form, in addition to Zoroaster, Isaac Newton, and a few others I will not mention…
Also; Plato, Otto Muck, etc are not the same Creation-Energy as Altan.
He (not Altan) is a part of Figu in the Eastern U.S; however and doing good work.
F.e.
da Kjybevol
Coordinates:Reverberation
Quetzel; C.r. 150, sec. 101:
“A new people must be established.”
-Ziffe a thire z da Ummi!
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1579
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2022 - 04:05 pm: |
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Please post the links to the CR where these claims of yours are substantiated.
If you can't, please do us the favor of having your comment removed and NEVER making claims that you don't, at the same time, provide substantiation for. |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1436
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2022 - 07:17 pm: |
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Hi Bill (Tat_tvam_asi),
I have no doubt that the Plejaren know exactly who the reincarnates are that occupy our governments.
Again, we have a double-sided knife. If we knew this information, it might frighten the chitterlings out of us. It may also change the way we Earthlings would normally perceive others. For the average person, if one knew who their past incarnation were, it could have a detrimental effect on one’s evolution.
The other side of the knife; the extraordinary or advanced beings that died on Earth may have evolved enough to understand who their past incarnations were.
“Question:
Therefore, the essence of the old consciousness and the old personality is made available again in an impulse-based manner for the new consciousness-personality-block?
Answer:
The availability happens in a subconsciousness-based manner in an impulse based wise. The new personality is made out of a form of the transformation of the old consciousness-personality-block into a purified, new energy.”
About the Fluidal-Energy, page 570.
Bill, you stated, “…is it not to disseminate the truth? To create a different consciousness? And if so: Would the knowledge and revelation of past causes not start the 'healing process'…” Maybe the correct question has not been asked?
“Semjase:
104. I am not allowed to give any official information about that yet.”
About the Fluidal-Energy, page 572.
“If no detailed and specific question comes up, then also no one will come upon the fact that something still must be explained separately and more specifically as well as in more detail. And even now certainly still not everything which can be explained and must be explained, has been explained. Perhaps in five, six or seven years someone will come up with a question which then leads further, through which everything can be explained more precisely.”
Salome
Kenneth |
Friteeucman
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Post Number: 125
Registered: 09-2021
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2022 - 08:22 pm: |
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Ask Billy.
That is your substantiation. You are his representative.
F.e.
da Kjybevol
Coordinates:Reverberation
Quetzel; C.r. 150, sec. 101:
“A new people must be established.”
-Ziffe a thire z da Ummi!
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1580
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2022 - 07:51 am: |
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Billy didn't come here and make those unreferenced/unsubstantiated claims, you did.
You could save yourself and others a lot of trouble if you learned to say, "In my opinion,..."
So please either substantiate, retract or qualify your claims by stating they're your opinion. |
Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 168
Registered: 04-2020
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2022 - 10:39 am: |
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Kenneth and Bill, with regards to the discussion of America's drive for world domination and its' origin, Billy points to this -
Excerpt from Contact Report 794 -
Billy:
All of America's might is being established elsewhere and precisely in a different form, in such a way that world domination is slowly being achieved with the help of NATO. If one considers that America, as a state, was created by the immigration of foreigners, mainly from Europe, with the first immigrants coming from England and Holland – this long, long after the Vikings first settled in America, long before Columbus 'discovered' America – who, like those who followed, came from Germany, Switzerland, France and Italy, etc…, who emigrated to America for religious, criminal, political and economic reasons – or were emigrated by the authorities as 'troublesome citizens' – then it is probably no wonder that what was peculiar to them in their former homeland has survived and in many still survives today. But I am speaking only of those who were unrighteous and transmitted their dishonest motives to their descendants, especially of those who were forcibly settled as slaves.
German original and translation found here:
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_794
Bob |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1437
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2022 - 04:02 pm: |
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Regarding post 1436:
To be clear for all (newcomers) to comprehend my statement may be more accurate if stated, “reincarnate SPIRIT FORMS” that occupy our governments”.
As a side thought regarding Donald Trump. With his fascination with gold objects and gold-plated items, I always thought of him as being a reincarnated spiritform that was once in Egypt maybe a pharaoh which means the Great House and yields much power, Trump resided in the White House where he yielded much power. Both were heads of state, and both surround themselves with gold objects of various kinds.
Billy visited many government leaders in his early years of travel around the world. However, I do not recall him meeting any U.S. presidents.
Kenneth |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1581
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2022 - 04:26 pm: |
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Regarding Trump, not exactly a Pharaoh in some previous lives:
178. And one of these earlier personalities, according to my investigations, had degenerated particularly badly, namely one who had lived in the 16th century in Germany in a small town called Bedburg and had been known under the name of Peter Stump alias Stubbe-Peter.
Read more here:
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_711 |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1899
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2022 - 05:08 pm: |
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Kenneth:
My argument was based on the fact that knowing our past mistake we can, with the right consciousness (‘we live to create wisdom from past mistakes’), set quicker the right goals in life that achieve a balance. Just as Edgar Cayce was so successful through advising people by telling them the past situations that led to their present-day sickness.
You are right, not everyone would take it kindly to be known to be a reincarnation of a warlord. But this was not what I wanted to express. I wanted to know more of the history of 9498 BCE, 40,000 BCE, 387,000 BCE because it is my firm belief that history repeats until the right response, the right thinking, the right consciousness eventuates: Individually and as the ‘people of our planet’. If the knowledge of how past human-made catastrophes evolved and how those instigating them fared, if this was in everyone’s mind, it may forestall the selfishness that creates them anew in our time. This, indeed, was, with a view of present events in the Ukraine, my rationale: That there should be a ‘thinking’, ‘discussing’ rather than a 'shooting first' world.
Bill
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