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    Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1482 Registered: 08-2010 |
Hello Hendrikus You actually have valid points and you brought up some good questions. But from my point of view, it appears you haven't done enough due diligence. The fact that you ask some of these questions without knowing the answers makes this clear to those who know. Also, and I can't stress this enough, the one department you are not empowered in are the creational laws & recommendations. So it's no wonder you are presently limited in scope and horizon. You have the right mind and a good heart, but you haven't been empowered yet. But stay the course and when you decide to seek your empowerment, then you will see the sunrise illuminating everything. It's why I highly recommend the study of the Goblet Of The Truth. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Reen71b Member Post Number: 96 Registered: 09-2020 |
@ Hendrikus1970 You can't change people or wake up people. Everyone is responsible for their own changes. We can't stop what we can't control. The reason the Salome Peace Meditation schedule is set up is to try to counteract the negative influences. I've read many blogs over the years. There have been some comments as to why the Plejaren do not contact anyone other than Billy. It is to protect them because they are susceptible to the negative influences on this planet. Although I accepted this, I didn't quite fully understand. But, the more I became involved in my own changes towards the truth, I started to understand from my own experience. Sometimes for me, just simply driving around town to to food shopping, I notice that I am affected by the negative influences and feel my attitude shifting and suddenly feeling the urge to just get home as quickly as possible. I realized this is why they (Plejaren) don't contact us directly. This is a very difficult task to change things towards the right way to live for all of humankind. As much as you may think talking to Rand Paul having his heart in the right place, there will be no change towards peace involving politics of any kind. There have been other politicians whose heart was in the right place but did not get too far because that's not the political narrative. We shouldn't have to be 'influenced' be make change for the better. That's something we're going to have to do on our own. Earth humankind are essentially overgrown children. You can tell your child 'no' and sometimes they'll still do what you told them not to do anyway. It is through making mistakes (sometimes over and over) that we learn. Meier is not more in the forefront because he is neutral and is here as a teacher. I am going to say this each and every time to you. WE are responsible......WE. The difference between the other attempts by the prophets is the teachings can't be erased. The scientists were influenced for this very reason and is why the teachings are so easily accessible now with this age in technology. Illiteracy is not as it was back then either. It's going to get ugly in the near future. We are going to hit rock bottom before this even turns around for the better. The best thing we can do to try to prevent certain catastrophic events through the scheduled peace meditations. I think it's fair to say that politicians, especially in America are beyond reasoning at this point. Maureen | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1599 Registered: 07-2009 |
From the latest CR 802: "I have been aware since Sfath’s time that the so-called ‘free will’ of human beings is absolutely illusory and that this is therefore non-existent, for truly they must create it for themselves, for it is not naturally given to them. In addition, many external influences are pressing upon him which stifle his free will to such an extent that it is impossible for him to simply have it, consequently he has to work hard to acquire it, which is only possible if he is able to bring himself under his absolute self-control. This means, however, that he must seal himself off from the outside world in every conceivable way and must consciously and profoundly reduce all his evil, false and therefore negative ambitions that are deeply embedded in his character to such an extent that they can no longer unconsciously break through to the outside world and cause mischief." | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1483 Registered: 08-2010 |
Re; The Spiritual Teaching Peoples Long ago, Nokodemion established the Spiritual Teaching Peoples, which is what the Earth needs. Without which, referring to the efforts of the Spiritual Teaching Peoples, the Orb that circled the Plejaren planets would not be effective. The construct of this Orb is locked away in the storage banks of Billy and the Plejaren, with the help of the Sonaer, would be able to build it. But without the efforts of the Spiritual Teaching Peoples, the Orb would taste success. Excerpt from CR802 Billy: Yes, I know all this from Semjase, for she already told me everything. Sfath, your father, has also told me a lot, and so I also know that the Plejaren used to be warrior peoples and only became peaceful a little more than 52,000 years ago with the appearance of the orb, which you were then able to enforce throughout the Federation. It would be nice if this could also be or become the case on Earth, but it would be illusory to hope for that. The 10 billion human beings that will soon be on this earth alone, of whom about 14,000 die every year due to environmental pollution, as you said at the end of last year, is a huge problem, because the majority of this human being is unfortunately still deeply attuned to murder and manslaughter, which comes to the surface at every possible and impossible opportunity. No one teaches them that they must consciously change for the good, that they must bring themselves under control, consciously, with regard to their evil ambitions lurking deep in their character, in order to become truly human beings. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_802 Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Hendrikus1970 Member Post Number: 139 Registered: 04-2009 |
Hello Eddie, Quote , it appears you haven't done enough due diligence. The fact that you ask some of these questions without knowing the answers makes this clear to those who know. Also, and I can't stress this enough, the one department you are not empowered in are the creational laws & recommendations. So it's no wonder you are presently limited in scope and horizon. I did not ask questions without knowing the answer ,maybe you should reed it again. And i do have a lot of questions,but the things i talked about are illogical things ,that i did not understand untill yesterday. And about the Goblet of the Truth,i did read that almost all i can get for free i downloaded and studied. But weird as it is wile reading many things where already know to me and sound logical As for the rest of the books and info ,well i and many people cant buy books of 50, 60, 70 euro,maybe in 800 years when the books are stil avaible. Probebly the books that are left will be in the hands of that newly created religion,that they are working so hard now to rewrite beam case But the new pre translated contact report 802 of yesterday made it very clear to me ,and now i understand why they dont want to wake up the whole world. | ||
Reen71b Member Post Number: 97 Registered: 09-2020 |
Thank you for posting that, Michael. That's the part of the contact report that stuck out for me. Maureen | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1485 Registered: 08-2010 |
Hello Hendrikus I did not read anything in the contact 802 which alludes that they don't want to wake up the whole world. Billy, as a Herald, feels the duty to inform us of the facts and reality, hence the actual problems and state of affairs. In this way, those of us who feel the sense of duty and labor of love, can figure out the solution. Billy cannot do it alone; this is a creational law with the creational recommendation that others are to help who feel the sense of the responsibility and duty according to the sense of love for all of the Creation's creations. It's good that you have read the Goblet Of The Truth. That was my first baby step. After that, I got serious and determined, through my own freedom of will (free will) to become cognizant and empowered through the arduous study of the Goblet Of The Truth. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1600 Registered: 07-2009 |
Here's a new idea: Billy Meier teaches by example. You may notice that he has been extraordinarily busy publishing contacts, with great emphasis on the war in Ukraine, Zelensky, etc. I think it would be an appropriate way, for those who want to honor his tireless efforts, and help the mission improve, to send this blog: Danger to Peace Lovers in Zelensky's Inner Circle (https://theyflyblog.com/?p=22095) …and any other relevant ones you like, at any time, to every local, state, and national news organization, media outlet, commentator, journalist, radio, TV, social media contacts, etc. There are people like Aaron Mate, Joe Rogan, Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson, etc., who have huge audiences. They don’t pay attention if only one person writes them…but they do when they get a FLOOD of messages, each in the author’s own few words. Then, since we don’t post non-FIGU links, I ask that each of you post comments here…with the names of the parties to whom you’ve sent the info. We can each do some small, proactive things with the intention of helping to prevent…WW III. | ||
Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 183 Registered: 04-2020 |
Michael: "There are people like Aaron Mate, Joe Rogan, Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson, etc., who have huge audiences. They don’t pay attention if only one person writes them…but they do when they get a FLOOD of messages, each in the author’s own few words." I think that's a great idea, Michael. I am working on a draft of such a letter in my own words that I will post here when it is finished for additional suggestions from the forum. I think Tucker Carlson had made some comments in support of Russia defending itself early on in the conflict if I remember correctly. Although I disagree with Tucker on so many things I think he would at least consider the information. At the very least one would think it would be an interesting news angle to discuss on such shows. Bob | ||
Mosaki Member Post Number: 27 Registered: 01-2015 |
Hendrikus Why don't you do something proactive instead of constantly complaining about Billy and the Plejaren? Do you hear yourself? I rarely hear you complaining about all the stupid people on earth. We alone are responsible for every stupid thing on this planet, not the Plejaren nor Billy. They didn't force anyone to degenerate into stupidity. That's all on us. You don't seem to grasp what others here are trying to convey to you. And until you become serious with your study of the Creation-energy teaching, you will remain stuck in the negative swinging waves. Salome, Melissa Osaki | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 1112 Registered: 04-2015 |
Tucker Carlson interviewed Lue Elizondo 8 days ago about UFO's. I sent an email saying why they immediately jump and conclude them as being outer world UFO craft and not our own secret military craft first which would be way more likely to be true. Got no response. | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 1470 Registered: 04-2013 |
I also sent and email to Fox News, stating the following with no response. "To Tucker Carlson: Regarding the Tucker Carlson interviewed with Lue Elizondo several days ago about UFO's. It would make more sense if these so called UFOs were advance military craft, as the U.S. military is about 100-years more advanced that what the public is aware. Interesting that this question was not asked. Kind regards Ken Smith" Salome Kenneth | ||
Hendrikus1970 Member Post Number: 141 Registered: 04-2009 |
Michael_horn first about that letter you sended to ukraine what your doing is putting the lives in danger of Zelensky's Inner Circle,the ones that want to stop them but dont know how ! You ask for attention,so that the CIA or nazis read this and can put that inner circle before a firing squad ? People need help,and dont know how to fix it because of the strengt and power of the dark forces. You keep blaming stuppid humans and im tired of that. Mosaki and Michael_horn and rest For about 15 years or more i see blog post on theyfly with mostly information on what will happen if people dont change,and it all is terible news and very negative what we see in those contact reports and the worst thing is that the normal humanbeing cant do s... about it. And then you guys and girls come and say what you say all the time. We are responisble for ourselfs and they only come to help us with the teachings of the spirit. Lets do a recap For thousends of years aliens are comming to earth ,first they alter the genes and make fighting machines out of earth humans,then they pretent to be gods and create relgions and what more..... The Ps and Mr Meier give us tons of amazing information,but not all see it or belief it and thats the fault of the high council ( my opinion !) they talked with only a few people on earth and the wrong ones in my opnion.( and no, im not that person also) Also for thousends of years there have shadow governments and dark forces constantly influencing people. Now just recently we know that there are still 2 alien races on earth ( not giza 1987) the blue ones also want world domination and the others we dont know what they are doing here. Everytime they say this can happen and that wil realy happen if stuppid humans dont change the course,but change what ? what to change if they even dont know that they are being lied to ? Like i said the dark forces control the msm and politics,institutions,school learning systems,schools, you name it and they have it or control it .....example of is this coronavirus,what you expect people to do? To go look for a vengfull american and the dark forces to stop them from making the virus and starting wars? We the few that know the BEAM case tried to wake up `people,i think we all did,at least the ones that belief Mr Meier. Its like with the lockdown rules,i been in lock down for a year or more,but sadly i have to work so how to escape covid ? its almost imposible now. Here i litle example of the coronavirus talk Billy: Also regarding the secret laboratories where the virus originated, which we indeed call ‘escaped’, it should at least be made clear that the Chinese government has nothing to do with it, nor with… Ptaah: We should not talk too much about that. Billy: I don’t want to talk about it either, I just want to make it clear that the Chinese government is not involved, and that you Plejaren see a pandemic differently than the earthlings, who irresponsibly muddle around in such things, etc. Ptaah: This way we can explain something else, yes The secret laboratories, in which not only research but also experiments are carried out in three different places, are not maintained on behalf of the government. In fact, it is experimental research carried out by a secret group that…as I explained to you in detail, in which case… So again we see the reports talking about a secret group and the rest are ...... .... ,but dont say who or stop talking untill its to late and we are f.... Like knowing whos making an atomic bom but dont say who until all have one. Like Billy says now to those people that need help. We and those people now know whats going on and what do you expect us stuppid humans to do ? If you writte something in favour of Russia on facebook you get arrested,they come to your home now. You guys cant do nothing about them and are even to scared to talk about them,so yes im getting a bit angry with how this is going. High council decided not to try and talk with nobody anymore afther they tried to contact the corrupt U.S government,maybe they beter start contacting Mr Putin before the blue ones do it I will give you 1 example of what i mean with scared. Contact Report 136 Translation: Part 2 i suggest you read it all semjase 102. Thus, it will happen, that the future will bring events which, on the one hand, will have a very malicious effect on the world and Earth-humans but which, on the other hand, will only be confirmation of what has been announced prophetically for several thousand years. ...... But no worries,but ok lets wait untill we survive nuclair war and then take our last bagg of popcorn out to see the great destroyer comming our way. Maybe it will give some nice pictures. Btw im not negative im just pissed of | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1601 Registered: 07-2009 |
Hendrikus1970, You apparently haven't considered that Meier published the information first and that he's read not only obviously by people in Ukraine but by many in various higher positions in government, intelligence services, etc. I guess you could add him to your Hall of Blame. You are someone who's quite fond of expressing your victimhood and blaming others for taking the initiative to contribute what they can to creating a better course for people. As Billy Meier has said, "Each person is the smith of their own destiny." So, in a world where, for so long, so many people have succumbed to letting others forge their lives for them, it goes hand in hand that, when the consequences of that lack of self-responsibility intrude upon people's complacency, great internal discomfort starts to appear. As Meier predicted a couple of years ago, many people are becoming imbalanced, mentally, emotionally, psychically disturbed. Some go mad, some become violent; people can be affected differently. One option that should be considered is the study of the Creation-energy teaching. To begin to read it is to open oneself to a new realm of peace and possibilities, first within themselves. One's consciousness is reached and affected differently, much for the better, than with other reading. As Eddie has suggested a number of times, the Goblet of the Truth is profound and freely available: https://www.figu.org/ch/files/downloads/buecher/figu-kelch_der_wahrheit_goblet-of-the-truth_v_20150307.pdf | ||
Hendrikus1970 Member Post Number: 142 Registered: 04-2009 |
Michael_horn Yes Mr Meier should have kept his mouth shut also! Or help them or say nothing its realy dumb to put this people in danger like this. The tried to look for help because they themselfs cant do s..t about this powerfull group and controlers of Zelenski. Or you realy think hes his own Boss? or does he get his orders from George Soros,like the rest of the EU leaders? What if the CIA and Darkforces are realy reading the CRs' No its a stuppid move. As for you Mr Horn,you are what they call a repeater,unable to think logical for yourself and compleetly lost in your studies. You probably feel enlightened and super smart I might be imbalanced, mentally, emotionally, psychically disturbed but im happy to have found the Meier case. You on the other hand are blind to all other things then BEAM You work for 20 years or so on getting the word ut to the people and look after all this years how many followers you got website views theyfly blog: 30 day average: 380 So you stil think your doing it right is it? And if have the GOT,Peace i have in my mind and soul and im not afraight to die or speak up Wtf is that with you people ? Billy ,Paath,Semjase or or we all get angry about things and ask difficult questions or get upset if we see things go out of control Im not aloud to ask questions is that it? You must be a hypocritical democrat that voted Trample Trump out and is now angry he made a mistake putting Senile Joe and Hunter Biden in charge Or maybe thats the N American hypocrisy ,we al know so well Maybe you can ask the moderators to block me here also? We dont need negative thinking or text here,that we only want to read on theyflyblog or in the CRs Critical questions is not something we want and questions about the fake jews ,dark forces we also dont like very mucho | ||
Hendrikus1970 Member Post Number: 143 Registered: 04-2009 |
Last thing i wil say about this is “To ask the 'right' question is far more important than to receive the answer. The solution of a problem lies in the understanding of the problem; the answer is not outside the problem, it is in the problem.” , Jiddu Krishnamurti, And the problem of humanity is ... the dots that every time are kept from us, the dark forces,alien blue race,khazarian mobsters,sham-people of the Hebraons, the gypsies whatever You can only solve a problem by knowing and starting at the roots of the problem | ||
Jokubas_stalmokas Member Post Number: 131 Registered: 01-2011 |
Hendrikus1970, It is understandable that you are pissed off, but also you are struggling to cope with what's happening in the world. Thing is that you will have to find inner balance eventually otherwise you will suffer mentally through tough times which will only be getting worse and that anger you are holding will become a burden unless you will find a way to look at things neutrally. You can't influence things that are out of your control which is that Plejaren regardless how you feel will not help us in different ways than they already have. | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1602 Registered: 07-2009 |
Hnedrikus, FYI, our stats show that we average over 50,000 views per month on the blog. Thanks for your concern of course. It's interesting that you say that I can't think for myself. Actually, I had to learn do a lot of just that beginning a little late my adult life, as I didn't have education/training in anything useful for my making a living. In fact, it wasn't until I was 32 that I actually had to figure out how to make a living, because that's when my daughter was born and, by the time she was a 10 months old, I was raising her as a single father. Sitting around whining, complaining and blaming others wouldn't have been helpful. So everything I've accomplished in my life is because I - very quickly - started learning to think for myself and become very resourceful. https://theyflyblog.com/about-michael/ The thing about self-esteem is that no one can give it or teach it to you. It comes from setting your own goals...and accomplishing them. One must motivate themselves as well. If this stage in one's development doesn't occur, a childish, angry, envious, blameful behavior can result, accompanied by an abundance of justification for one's own self-inflicted failings. Of course, one can still decide at almost any time to finally grow up. | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1488 Registered: 08-2010 |
Hello Hendrikus and everyone These are very frustrating times. The Age of Pisces coming to an end in 2029 is causing an upheaval and people are naturally affected by this... which is why being empowered with the Teaching of the Truth and remaining neutral is critical. As to the advice requested by Ukraine, Billy gave them the logical, yet neutral "advice" they needed to hear, rather than the advice they think they needed. Quite clever I must admit; I was actually very impressed with how Billy handled that one. I'm sure they now "get it". As Savio and Ken have been working on the true Pi in the other thread, we learned from Semjase that creational laws stipulate that human beings of a planet must figure this out on their own... how else will they stumble on the need to combine physical measurements with the gemut via the fine spiritual perception? So the Creation, as always, points us to look inward through our given consciousness block, which is powerful enough to answer all questions and provide all solutions... if empowered. The creational idea of a human being is that evolution comes through struggle (wrestling with the challenge until the intuition and the impulse are triggered (accessed) and the solution is found when love and logic are in harmony). Just as the Creation imparts its knowledge and wisdom via the Teaching of the Truth, the Teaching of Creation-Energy, the Teaching of the Life... so must the human being approach problem solving from a 3 dimensional (multi perspective) view. The path to knowledge and wisdom is paved by mistakes and learning and trying again. What our planet Earth needs now is the efforts of the Spiritual Teaching Peoples who must first be empowered through the study of the Goblet Of The Truth and thereby gain access to the fine spiritual perception, which is energetical in nature, so therefore connected to everyone and everything, in which case everything is perceived and the right way is trodden. If we all remain neutral to all the things that are going on, all the upheaval, the criminalities, the mistakes, the negative thoughts and assumptions, etc., etc., then the solutions begin to become obvious. I cannot stress enough the importance of the study of the Goblet Of The Truth. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1603 Registered: 07-2009 |
P.S. Corrections: 1. Our actual total views this month are 67,391. 2. As far as it never being too late to grow, well, sometimes it actually is. | ||
Hendrikus1970 Member Post Number: 144 Registered: 04-2009 |
Michael_horn you have about 400 unqiue vistors a day so thats about 400 of the 9 billion that are following you. As for the rest im gratefull to you and te rest. But i think you guys are blind to the roots of the problem,and thats why things dont change and even are getting worse. but enough of this i wil stay silent again,because this useless. thank you all | ||
Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 186 Registered: 04-2020 |
(Not to drag up the discussion with Hendrikus again but to bring closure and understanding. And to transition back to the topic at hand: "New ideas to help the mission improve.") There is actually a name for the feeling that nothing you do matters. It is a learned behavioral trait pandemic to our society the result of years and years of non-resolution of political and social issues and it is called 'learned helplessness'. "Learned helplessness is a mental state that occurs when people find out that nothing they do matters," said Dr. Martin Seligman, director of the Penn Positive Psychology Center at the University of Pennsylvania. "Its main consequence is that people give up and stop trying. It applies quite apparently to the majority of Americans who, for years, have shown they want more checks and balances... and have found out that nothing they do works. That predicts that people would give up." We move on and a moral imperative evaporates such that what some people say they value they refuse to protect. "Learned helplessness" is a failure of humanity whose only antidote is a demonstration that change is possible. Layers and layers of trauma are built into this country that is not just going to go away without a great deal of effort, persistence and patience. Thankfully, with the information and teaching provided by Billy we have the tools to 'unlearn' the 'learned helplessness'. If we truly want to help mankind and the mission during these times, we must address this 'psychosis of helplessness' which has now become the new normal with the proper understanding of its' management provided in the Meier material. What I mean in a most pragmatic way is that people you know and interact with in the real world will make a comment to you that they feel 'helpless', or that they are looking for something to help them 'cope'. There's a lot of that going around. In an unconscious way, they are asking for help. Your response: "I have found the best information far superior than anything else out there that you may try." Their response: "Oh, really?! By all means, tell me." Your response: "It is a book(s) written by a very wise and humble man who has spent many, many years studying psychology, philosophy, spirituality, religions, metaphysics, etc. and has shown time and time again in his writings that he has a mastery of understanding the human condition; i.e., what works and what doesn't work and has distilled that wisdom in a most helpful way to share with others." Then you recommend one of Billy's books, such as The Might of Thoughts, The Way to Live, etc. and tell them where to get it or offer to get it for them. There is no question but that mankind is thirsty for this information right now. Let us not succumb to that the same 'learned helplessness' and withhold the solution from them. Bob | ||
Hendrikus1970 Member Post Number: 145 Registered: 04-2009 |
Phi_spiral ( when people find out that nothing they do matters?) bla bla bla bla i dont have any trauma my friend ,and you apperently only listen to yourself,Eduard and mr Horn. You keep assuming im in a depresion,trauma or whatever the dickelidoe you think of me. Newsflash, i dont realy care what you think of me Do you say that to al people that ask critical questions or dont agree with you or the Ps or Billy? Nobody is perfect and we all make mistakes,do you think the Ps are perfect and dont make mistakes ? what i said was ; because this useless ! Meaning of the word this This: 1. used to identify a specific person or thing close at hand or being indicated or experienced. "is this your bag?" 2. referring to a specific thing just mentioned. "the company was transformed and Ward had played a vital role in bringing this about" determiner 1. used to identify a specific person or thing close at hand or being indicated or experienced. "don't listen to this guy" 2. referring to a specific thing just mentioned. "there was a court case resulting from this incident" adverb to the degree or extent indicated. "they can't handle a job this big" But Bob thank you for the lesson on how to communicate with my friend family and people around me. i realy learned something now “If we can really understand the problem, the answer will come out of it, because the answer is not separate from the problem.” J. Krishnamurti |
