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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1937
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Monday, May 30, 2022 - 12:37 am: | 
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Thank you, Joe.
Salome, Bill |
Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 188
Registered: 04-2020
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2022 - 02:01 pm: |
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There's a lot that can be gleaned from Billy's in depth explanations concerning the term "neutrality" appearing in the recent Contact Reports. So much so that I began wondering if there is not more to it than is openly being stated. By his definition of neutrality, those countries that are participating in the various sanctions against Russia have relinquished neutrality and are de facto at war with Russia. Taking that reasoning logically forward, considering all of the countries that are participating in the economic sanctions, we are in World War III (IV) even now.
Also, it seems to explain another reason why the Plejaren must maintain their neutrality with regards to world conflicts in the eyes of certain entities and powers which we yet to fully know about. They do not want themselves to get embroidered in war with certain earth foreigners by crossing a perception line of assistance. In the past, where they have interceded they had the approval and backing of the Federation behind them.
Bob |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1475
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2022 - 10:05 pm: |
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As outlined on Contact Report 801 by Ex-NATO Advisor and Swiss intelligence officer Jacques Baud, “USA and EU are sacrificing Ukraine to weaken Russia”…//… its growing dangers.
AARON MATÉ: …//… Rand is a Pentagon-type think tank, and they did a study in 2019 where they looked at all the different ways the US could overextend itself and upset Russia, and the top option was to send weapons into Ukraine to fuel a conflict there that could drag Russia in, which is exactly what happened.
JACQUES BAUD: Absolutely. And I think that this is a complete plan to weaken Russia, … Putin foresaw this… days before the decision on the offensive, he understood that he could not do nothing. He had to do something. The Russian public would never have understood why Russia should just stand by and watch the Donbass republics being invaded or destroyed by Ukraine. So, he was forced to launch... no matter what he did, the amount of sanctions would be the same... he chose the bigger option, which is to destroy the forces that threaten the Donbass.
… suppression of the military threat in the Donbass; that is the main objective. Denazification had nothing to do with killing Selensky or destroying the leadership in Kiev. That was definitely not the idea, and in fact, as I said, the main way they conceive of war is a combination of physical action and diplomatic action. So that means that in that kind of approach you have to keep the leadership in order to be able to negotiate, and that's why there was no possibility of killing or destroying the leadership in Kiev…
In my opinion, Putin/Russia is trying to prevent World War-3 aka (4)
Kenneth |
Norms
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Post Number: 112
Registered: 12-2019
| | Posted on Friday, June 03, 2022 - 03:12 am: |
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CR721 vs.237:
237. If one has a close look at the life history of Mohammad, then it must also be said concerning this, that there is hardly a true word in all that which is supposedly 'handed down' about him, for just as with Jmmanuel, all around no one was knowledgeable in writing and written language, except his first wife, the widow Chadidscha.
But in Bulletin #22 (https://www.figu.org/ch/files/downloads/bulletin/figu_sonder_bulletin_22.pdf),
Muhammad actually taught the 'teaching of the spirit' in every respect - but never war, hatred, lovelessness or terror, etc. Because Muhammad did not personally write down his teaching, statements and explanations, as is claimed, the actual writer-originator unfortunately falsified a great deal from the ground up, as was also the case after Muhammad's death, and therefore a great deal was handed down incorrectly. In fact, Muhammad never gave any negative or even evil parts of the teaching, consequently everything that is evil, negative and erroneous as well as aggressive that is ascribed to him and his teaching is based on very crass and evil falsifications made by writers and beneficiaries of the falsifications. This also applies to the alleged statements and teachings as well as provisions relating to the pursuit of religious, political and military goals and thus also to warfare and terror. So what is also written and claimed that Muhammad called for the persecution of those of other faiths and that Islam is to be championed and spread with terror and murder did not come from Muhammad's pen, but from fanatical and racist writers and murderous Islamists who followed Muhammad's teachings at will twist and bend, as fundamentally happened in earlier times. Muhammad was well able to read and write, but like Jmmanuel and all true prophets before him, he had his chronicler who had to write everything down - as was the case with Jmmanuel Judas Ischarioth, who recorded everything faithfully and unadulterated -, falsifications have already arisen, as also later by the scribblers, who falsified both the statements of the prophet and those of the disciples, when they passed on their story and Jmmanuel's teaching. In the case of Muhammad, the doctrinally distorting chronicler was a man named Omar, who was a very distant literate eighth-line relative, and whose name has never been mentioned in this regard in the whole history of Muhammad to this day, as per the annals of the Plejaren emerges.
Question 1.
Why is CR721 not saying anything about Muhammad having scribes and literate himself and at the same time saying only Chadidscha was knowledgeable in writing and written language?
Question 2:
Why is Omar being called literate in Bulletin 22 ? |
Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 189
Registered: 04-2020
| | Posted on Friday, June 03, 2022 - 06:36 am: |
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It seems to me that his first wife, Chadidscha is the name of that chronicler/scribe (singular, not plural) that is being referred to in Bulletin #22.
Omar was not a contemporary of Mohammad but came eight generations later.
That's how I interpret it anyway.
Bob |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1491
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Friday, June 03, 2022 - 09:55 am: |
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Hello Norms
Omar was a "very distant literate eighth-line relative"... so Omar did not exist during the time of Mohammad's life.
Even before Jmmanuel, there were people who were literate, the issue is that a high percentage of the population was illiterate... this continued even into the 19th century.
I did read a letter written by Mohammad which clearly stated how foreigners, including Jews and so forth, were to be treated... this document reads more like someone well versed in the Teaching Of The Prophets (Goblet Of The Truth).
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Norms
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Post Number: 113
Registered: 12-2019
| | Posted on Friday, June 03, 2022 - 08:14 pm: |
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The Shia refer to Umar who after Ghadir Khumm rejected Ali's Quran saying "We have our own".
So there is claim that Ali and Umar were literate during the time of Muhammad. Of course, these could have been under the influence of the Giza Intelligences...
But the Omar in Bulletin 22 seems to be different from the Umar during the time of Muhammad... ?
At Ghadir Khumm,
Prophet Muhammad is supposed to have said:
"I left among you two treasures which, if you cling to them, you shall not be led into error after me. One of them is greater than the other: The book of God, which is a rope stretched from Heaven to Earth, and my progeny, my ahl al-bayt. These two shall not be parted until they return to the pool [of paradise, kawthar]."
and
"He whose mawla I am, Ali is his mawla."
Is there anything in the CR's / Bulletins that mention these claims? |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1476
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Friday, June 03, 2022 - 09:23 pm: |
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An article titled: “Microplastics From Masks Found Deep in Lungs of the Living”. June 1, 2022.
Contact Report 760, Ptaah was very clear on the wearing of appropriate respirators as urgent and necessity. The Plejaren only recommend the FFP2 and FFP3 for a reason.
The article states, ”Once inhaled or consumed, microplastics can be found in your bloodstream in particles small enough to cross membrane barriers.
This article is rather vague about the type of masks. But a Single Use Disposable Blue Face Mask is shown.
The article continues to state:
“The mask mandates themselves have increased the CFR (case fatality rate) by 1.85 / 1.58 or by 85% / 58% in counties with mask mandates. It was also found that almost all of these additional deaths were attributed solely to COVID-19. This study revealed that wearing facemasks might impose a great risk on individuals, which would not be mitigated by a reduction in the infection rate.
Expert Says COVID Face Covers Are Not Masks. A study published in 2021 looked at the risks of wearing BLUE SURGICAL FACE MASKS and inhaling microplastics. The researchers found that reusing masks could increase the risk of inhaling microplastic particles…
…N95 respirators had the lowest number of microplastics released when compared to not wearing a mask. However, FFP2 and FFP3 respirators are not mentioned. FFP simply stands for “Filtering FacePiece.
The article also said: “Surgical, cotton, fashion, and activated carbon masks wearing pose higher fiber-like microplastic inhalation risk …”19 and yet, according to Chris Schaefer, a respirator specialist and training expert, the masks used by millions of people throughout the world are not really masks at all.
Fabric masks should be made of three layers of fabric:
-Inner layer of absorbent material, such as cotton.
-Middle layer of non-woven non-absorbent material, such as polypropylene.
-Outer layer of non-absorbent material, such as polyester or polyester blend.
Kind Regards
Kenneth |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 3644
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2022 - 10:54 am: |
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In the Contact Reports it has been mentioned that some of the current UFO Visitations are coming from our future....If that is true does that mean the earth does indeed survive this period and we go on to further development/evolution? or could it mean we eventually destroy ourselves but at some point in our future, we had reached a stage of development, where we start to migrate to other planets, because there is nothing left here and then develop time travel to travel back in time to visit ourselves before we self destructed?....In other words are the current UFO Visitations coming from this planet in the future or from our descendants living on "other worlds" ? |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1477
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2022 - 11:56 am: |
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HI Scott,
Interesting set of questions. You described two possible scenarios, there would appear to be a third scenario as well.
FIRST: “… does that mean the earth does indeed survive this period and we go on to further development/evolution?”
-ANSWER: IMO, Earth itself as a planet does indeed survive, as far as the current future generations of the population surviving is questionable, based on current events.
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SECOND: “…we eventually destroy ourselves…//… then develop time travel to travel back in time to visit ourselves before we self-destructed…”
-ANSWER: If we Earthlings destroy ourselves, we know that the past cannot be changed through time-travel. So, destruction through wars, pollution, overpopulation, destruction of the Fauna and Flora, (basic foundation of life), the collapse of the atmosphere, Apophis Asteroid, etc., etc., to mention a few consequences. What is the point in coming back in the future to give warnings?
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THIRD: A blend of the first two scenarios. Humanity travels to Mars and over time establishes a civilization, generations later will be called Martians. And the cycle repeats itself again. Now the Marians terraform Earth again, much in the same way the Earthlings had ultimately terraformed Mars again.
Salome
Kenneth |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 3645
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2022 - 12:40 pm: |
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Hi Kenneth,
From "Jeremiah's Predictions" CR 229, verse 355 and onward it does appear that we do survive this period. Also I mentioned this to Christian Frehner and he assumed these future visitors do indeed come from this planet in the future. 
Salome
Scott
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_229 |
Reen71b
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Post Number: 104
Registered: 09-2020
| | Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2022 - 12:48 pm: |
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I do think there's a good possibility that we do survive. I also have this feeling that certain possible events have been currently being thwarted. For how long, I do not know because it could pick up where it has left off at some point. Only change (time) will tell. What I have noticed has only given me more reason to continue to participate in the Salome Peace Meditation.
Maureen
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1478
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2022 - 01:37 pm: |
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HI Scott,
Good to know, thanks for the fast reply. CR 229, verse 355 and what Christian Frehner said. But he only assumed that these future visitors do indeed come from this planet, which does not really close the loop so to say.
So, could these future visitors that came from Earths time ahead, have actually settled on Mars?
It is interesting that Elon Musk has stated that based on current world event, “Population collapse is potentially the greatest risk to the future of civilization…” He do not mention overpopulation to my knowledge as one of the causes of the collapse. He has touched on many of the other issues that FIGU is aware of that can cause a collapse in the populace.
The word Overpopulation seems to be a social or religious practice prohibiting or forbidding association with a particular person, place, or thing that promotes the Overpopulation issue. Maybe he is just being careful? Or he may just be ignorant on the issue of Overpopulation?
Regards
Kenneth |
Stefan_z2
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Post Number: 186
Registered: 12-2014
| | Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2022 - 03:23 pm: |
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Hello Scott,
Hilak’s foresight, not prophecy, shared in contact report 692 has besides very troublesome details about current times and nearer future the wonderful information that “… the Earth will one day become a blessed planet, …”.
Salome,
Stefan |
Scott
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Post Number: 3646
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2022 - 03:52 pm: |
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Thank you Stefan,
I don't think I read that CR, but I will now ...
Salome
Scott |
Jokubas_stalmokas
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Post Number: 133
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2022 - 09:14 pm: |
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So there is a scenario where only people living underground survive? 🤨 |
Joe
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Post Number: 698
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Monday, June 06, 2022 - 03:34 am: |
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DeepL preliminary English translation of Contact Report 806
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_806 |
Norm
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Post Number: 316
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Monday, June 06, 2022 - 09:27 am: |
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After contacting Christian about this I see the date has been corrected to 1787.
Did Billy get his dates wrong on the creation of the Dark Order?
“ I also wanted to write something about the USA shadow government, that it has already existed since 1767 and controls American politics without the great ones in government noticing or knowing anything about it, consequently they are influenced unknowingly, decide wrongly and also act accordingly and do what is in the sense of the shadow rulers.”
- CR 795
Moreover, behind everything is the 'Dark Government of America', which has existed since 1787 and whose ambition is absolute world domination, so the USA can already realise its military presence in many states of the Earth for this purpose.
- CR 801
Norm
If 1787 is the correct date. Then did the dark government form when they signed the United States Constitution?
Sep 17 , 1787 The US Constitution is signed by delegates at the Philadelphia Convention. |
Melvyn
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 07-2018
| | Posted on Monday, June 06, 2022 - 02:07 pm: |
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...billy....tj.....trying to cope...bit overwhelmed but it's calming down....World xxx toall of u...from tj research |
Hendrikus1970
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Post Number: 153
Registered: 04-2009
| | Posted on Monday, June 06, 2022 - 10:05 pm: |
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to say the ,Dark Government of America is very wrong statement
Better said would be the Dark Government of the western nations,or old european moneymakers and royal families.
We the Europeans control the west and also the satelite state they call the U.S and its puppet states.
So the Dark Government created the US and did this by killing millions of indians.
The Dark forces Boss of the satelite state U.S is called Henry Kissinger.
Thats why Henry together with queen Beatrix of the netherlans are hosting the bilderberg conventions.
The US is being used to serve its purpose and when the Russian wil destroy the US then the old european moneymakers wil play innocence and say that they did not know what the hillbilies where doing and that they where so wrong to trust them.
Please forgive us and lets make sure this never hapens again.
Wich ofcourse will hapen because the true rullers are always there in the background controling and manipulating
Maybe the best word for them is not dark forces but simply the the new Khazarian empire |
Daniel_ratajczak
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Post Number: 16
Registered: 06-2016
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2022 - 05:29 pm: |
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Hello FIGU Forum Posters,
I have been waiting a long time to make this post. Note to Scott: I will only be referring strictly to the contact reports in this post and absolutely no pseudoscientific articles or unreliable mainstream media news sources.
Here we go. Since the beginning of the pandemic, I have been reading posts regarding the coronavirus pandemic, first when it was discussed under the Environment tab, then under the newly created Coronavirus pandemic tab, and then further on other corners of the FIGU Forum once that discussion was shut down. During all this time, more than 2 years to be exact, I have hesitated from posting anything related to the coronavirus since I wanted to wait for the right time. Well, I think that the right time has arrived. From the contact reports, we have been given so much information regarding the pandemic from the Plejaren and Billy. For that I am thankful. Furthermore, debate regarding the coronavirus will continue well into the future. This is without a doubt the biggest global disaster since World War II, and perhaps in all of human history so far.
I think that there seem to be a few inconsistencies in the contact reports regarding the coronavirus that need to be clarified. There are too many to mention, but among them, Billy and the Plejaren first stated at the beginning that masks were useless, before quickly recommending mask wearing as a precaution. Particularly at the beginning, from March 2020 to July 2020, Billy and the Plejaren were slow to release information about the full dangers of the coronavirus. Not all of the information was released at once, perhaps not to create excessive panic from the onset. Reading the information about the coronavirus I can only imagine might be frightening to many, particularly the lines that mention that even mild cases can lead to “life-long suffering”. Ptaah talks about how the coronavirus can run riot throughout the entire body. This description can easily be deemed one of the most disturbing passages in all of the contact reports. This is the stuff of intense philosophical and ethical debate. Although there are many righteous people who study the Billy Meier material, there are also many crazy people who might have suicidal thoughts from reading the information that the coronavirus causes permanent damage to the lungs, the brain, and other body organs. While others may walk away with the attitude that “we will all die someday and our bodies will slowly and miserably decay anyway”, I can see how this information can be distressing to many who haven’t quite studied enough the spiritual teachings. All of the above also applies to the vaccines. Many who are studying the contact reports might be wondering if they will randomly drop dead in 10 years because of their two Pfizer shots a year ago. Perhaps in a few years, others will be bragging about how they survived the pandemic with no vaccine and no infection.
There is too much to discuss here, a book could be written analyzing the contact reports from the pandemic thus far. However, the reason that I write this post now is because of these words from Ptaah from Contact Report 750:
41. The health of the human beings will therefore continue to be threatened by the rampantly spreading disease, whereby under certain circumstances in this regard the whole thing can drag on for the next 18 to 24 months and will continue to claim many deaths.
42. Thereby already the danger exists that, due to disregarding all the necessary measures to end the worldwide raging, rampantly spreading disease, a global permanent pandemic can develop out of the whole and continue for years.
This conversation took place on August 22, 2020. 24 months later would be August 22, 2022, which is coming up pretty soon. In another contact report, Ptaah mentions that the virus could wreck havoc for 2-3 years, which would match this 18-24 month timeframe. Billy also mentions this during Contact Repot 737:
The Spanish flu also claimed many millions of human lives between 1918 and 1920, just as the Corona epidemic is also costing hundreds of thousands of human lives today.
Is Billy suggesting here that the Coronavirus pandemic will end similarly to the Spanish Flu?
Contact Report 732 also mentions:
According to the assessment of the strength-intensity of the coronavirus, which will remain for a long time in this form, it can be assumed that the virus will survive for a long time and may even survive for up to two or three years and wreak havoc.
Please see this TheyFly Blog post:
https://theyflyblog.com/2020/05/breaking-covid-19-pandemic-may-last-two-to-three-years/
In yet another contact report, I can’t quite remember the number, Ptaah says that this coronavirus is a very strange virus. Basically, the virus can undergo a transformation within a few weeks to months and seemingly disappear so that everything just seems like a bad nightmare.
The key question is: Will the coronavirus “withdraw” in August, 2022? The clues are there. I think that we are all looking forward to having some relief from this pandemic finally. Even Christian Frehner mentioned that the Plejaren will give us “the green light” once it is safe to resume FIGU operations as were normal before 2020.
Right now is the time I have been waiting for all these past two and a half years. Will we see a withdrawal of the coronavirus? Even in a recent contact report, the Plejaren use the phrase, “even if it withdraws”.
I will end with the following. We should be aware if something sounds “too good to be true”. Likewise, we should also be aware if something sounds “too bad to be true”.
Peace to all human beings. |
Hugo
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Post Number: 1114
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2022 - 06:54 pm: |
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Daniel_ratajczak,
I enjoyed reading and agreed with much you written there except for the bit about -
"Even Christian Frehner mentioned that the Plejaren will give us “the green light” once it is safe to resume FIGU operations as were normal before 2020."
The Plejaren said the virus is going to be with us for a long time. And Billy's health is not good and I get the feeling he will leave us soon. And with him leaving the Plejaren cannot let us know it is safe to resume FIGU operations. |
Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 731
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2022 - 11:49 pm: |
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In the last cnote didnt our mates say it will be more aggressive in a few weeks?
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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