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    Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1610 Registered: 07-2009 |
Keep in mind that despite Robin Hanson's quick deflection about being an economist, he hasn't been shy about representing himself as some kind of "expert" on the overall ET/UFO topic: https://mason.gmu.edu/~rhanson/press.html Hi Michael, FIGU Links would be preferable  (Message edited by scott on June 26, 2022) | ||
Hendrikus1970 Member Post Number: 164 Registered: 04-2009 |
what i saw is that this man already entered to talks with a very extrem sceptic mind. Why only this one armed man he said a few times. He thinks hes smarter then most,and most of what you said did not enter his braincells. A Good man that only listen to himself or maybe to a other ,of the so many scientist that is stuck in his way of thinking and beliefs. | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1500 Registered: 08-2010 |
in addition to what Hendrikus said; I noticed he had difficulty concentrating and focusing on the context of the conversation. Perhaps the efforts should focus on the Creation-Energy teaching and the Teaching of the Life as stipulated in the Goblet and the book Arahat Athersata. I feel that the main objective should be to cater to those former personalities who committed themselves to assist the Nokodemion personalities and their mission, who will/have already incarnated as new personalities but have yet to discover FIGU. The ufo community is full of people incapable of recognizing the truth. Full of people who fancy themselves smart and clever and, who are not only childish and disrespectful, but cultivate a most negative energy (swinging waves) which when triggered, ruins the taped discussions and launch destructive negative swinging waves which are amplified by all the dark & religious energy currently affecting the planet. UFO technologies and extraterrestrial existence is part of the Teaching of the Truth that is too harsh and indigestible by the majority of Earth humans. The focus should be on sharing with the world context from the Teaching of Creation-Energy and the Teaching of the Life. The Teaching of Creation-Energy and Teaching of the Life is easily recognized and stimulates thoughts and discussion by even the most religious person. Well explained by Ptaah in this FIGU article. https://beam2eng.blogspot.com/2017/03/spiritual-teaching-peoples.html?fbclid=IwAR2yBAN7PT5Zct8O2HV4S4CLuHF44pEoD7FqFlAqlIYISjSl_hBXDJa_SQQ Ptaah: // "consisted of human beings of different countries, cultures, and races, who, however, equally concerned themselves with the spiritual teaching/teaching of the Creation-energy" // Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Reen71b Member Post Number: 108 Registered: 09-2020 |
I agree, Eddie. I watched the full interview MH posted with Jonathan Jiang which was only 12 minutes long but felt like 2 hours. The man was more interested in listening to himself. After about 10 minutes of listening to the interview with Mr. Hanson, I was done. I commend MH for doing these interviews. But it seems such a waste when they want to talk more about themselves and what they supposedly know than actually listen to anything that MH has to say. A good conversation is when two people exchange information and take each other's information into consideration and be willing to hear a different point of view with curiosity. Seems the information falls on deaf ears with some of these interviewees. Maureen | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1943 Registered: 04-2011 |
My impressions from the time when I was studying economics … Economists seem to have a mathematical model (1) for every conceivable situation. I still recall my sudden realization that the (integral and) differential equations of High School Mathematics were, indeed, a useful tool to find the outcomes for these economical scenarios. But later I realized that the great problem with these models is the weighing of the input data – what is (and to what degree) the most relevant observable input (independent variable) what is considered the constant data (controlled variable)? To answer these questions economists are constantly seeking precise statistical data that describe the mood, the motivation, the desires of the people, the composition of society etc. For a man filled with all the right economic formulas it is “give me the right data and I will tell you what the outcome/future will be”. So, maybe, RH - ultimately- may have entered a conversation with Michael to find new data for his models? | ||
Ilovebilly Member Post Number: 738 Registered: 04-2011 |
Gday Michael The link you posted about Robin is interesting, the 3rd link (#28) on that page has a video on youtube, at about 15mins Robin says what he thinks about aliens. Thanks for all your efforts to bring the Truth to the world btw Gday Figu Folks. The Teaching has made me to be able to observe without fear, i know Eventually The Teaching will be universal, even if it takes more lifetimes to achieve this. I am ok with that, i hope others can be too. I dont stop trying to show The Truth, i am just saying its amazing how The Teaching has such a calming effect on you even when you can see humanity is headed for catastrophe. If anyone is starting to be aware of whats coming and finds it affecting their ability to function i think its a good idea to keep studying The Teaching, (((((making sure you are neutral when meditating.)))) i will do a post in meditation section asap. Sometimes i want to know something that i know is in The Teaching so i look into a book or cnotes and somehow i find what i want eheh. Maybe its from meditation and asking my Shopfung Energie for what i want. Reverence n Venerability with Neutral Positivity are keys to Knowledge,Wisdom, Love. My greatest posesions are The Figu Books and printed cnotes. My other posessions are just material in nature, they dont last long and i cant take them to my next life, But My Shopfung Energie/Storage Banks are getting The Best work out, and if i was on another planet would be difficult to get as Billy is here and Very Prolific eheh. Salome ilovebilly Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3657 Registered: 12-1999 |
Although this isn't a FIGU Website, I think this interview of Billy is quite interesting. | ||
Piyali Member Post Number: 215 Registered: 08-2012 |
Salome and thank you Scott for this interview with Billy. I have a question with regard to the very last bit about WW3, and that is: he speaks about WW3, which appears to be a prediction and not a prophecy, which means it is sure to happen. However, the nuclear war beginning before the year 2000, I am not sure about. Any clarification of this available anywhere at a later time by BEAM? Thank you. Salome Piyali | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3658 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hello Piyali, Your welcome ....As I understand it, that interview was given in 1982, at which time Billy mentions the War by the year 2000. In the year 1984 the peace meditation was started and according to the Booklet "49 questions" due to the introduction of the Peace Meditation the War will be delayed and the intensity of it will be reduced. So, it could be said the Peace Meditation is having a somewhat beneficial effect, but only to a point....that is how I understand the information | ||
Hendrikus1970 Member Post Number: 168 Registered: 04-2009 |
The effect of the peace meditation,What effect is that ? Do i have to name al wars tat are going on all the time or the milions dyibg in Jemen,Syria,Irak,Afg,Pakistan What peace you speak of ? THe Virus thats killing us of? what peace ? Ohh the peace on that smal nation thats called Israel you mean? BTW do those earth forgners also meditate peace? | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3659 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hendrikus1970, How do you know the Peace Meditation is not helping? How do you know how things would be with or without it? No one said it was the cure for all worldly events, but was only meant as a way to slow down or lessen their impact...It surely can't hurt... | ||
Piyali Member Post Number: 216 Registered: 08-2012 |
Salome and thank you Scott. Yes, I like too think our Salome Peace meditation is having some effect. Even though wars are going on, nuclear weapons have not been deployed yet, and perhaps, the kind of beginning that would lead to WW3, which according to Billy at the end of the interview, was to happen before 2000, has not happened yet. Salome Piyali | ||
Joe Member Post Number: 705 Registered: 11-2008 |
In my opinion, I'm not entirely sure why Billy would mention World War 3 or 4 happening for sure before the year 2000. If he had said a possible World War might break out before the year 2000 then that obviously would have made more sense. Excerpt from Contact Report 250 Billy: The Third World War is supposed to play a tremendously important role in this, which, according to certain such assertions, is supposed to take place again in 1998, after the assertions in 1992, 1991, 1990, 1988, 1986, 1982, 1980 and 1979 have not been fulfilled. It may well be that by the year 1998 the entire world political situation etc. will change in such a way that a third world fire will actually roll over Earth. But that really does not have to be the case, because in my opinion the situation has calmed down quite a bit again, which means that there are no more signs of a third world war, at least for the time being. We also hear very little about the madman, Schirinovski. Ptaah: 192. That is indeed the case. 193. At the moment everything is relatively quiet and nothing points to a new or third world war. 194. All preceding signs in manifold numbers have remained only signs that have lost their meaning and have become irrelevant. 195. The existing danger of a Third World War has finally been laid to rest for the present and the prophecy in this regard has been averted in its realization by the rapid change in many countries and in the overall political situation of the world, which can be traced back solely to the actions of Mikhail Gorbachev. End of excerpt. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_250 | ||
Piyali Member Post Number: 217 Registered: 08-2012 |
Salome and thank you Scott. Yes, I like too think our Salome Peace meditation is having some effect. Even though wars are going on, nuclear weapons have not been deployed yet, and perhaps, the kind of beginning that would lead to WW3, which according to Billy at the end of the interview, was to happen before 2000, has not happened yet. Salome Piyali | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1505 Registered: 08-2010 |
To me there are but two directions humanity travels because of the war within Ukraine. If nuclear weapons are launched, then we will either be obliterated or the Earth-Foreigners will show themselves and we will be under their form of government. If NATO attempts to continue this war with Russia, then western countries are going to pay dearly for it. My only hope is that the NATO insistence on expansion will bring about the prophecy that; "much good will come from Russia"... without the Earth-Foreigners taking over (unless that was foreseen?). Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 988 Registered: 12-2011 |
Eddleamartin The earth foreigners will never take over as there is not enough of them to do so. If the powerful people want a war there will be a war. joe | ||
Ilovebilly Member Post Number: 739 Registered: 04-2011 |
Billy says in a recent cnote, there is a 50% chance the dark side will release more virus that will reduce the pop, (i think to 10%), sometimes i wonder if for the sake of nature/earth that is a better scenario than nukes. Not that i agree to this in any way, it just looks like people wont find the Truth until well after the flora and fauna are decimated. I can see people dont like The Truth and it is alien to them, logical, clear thinking dosnt happen much. Without that a logical path is not likely. Delusion is so common. As most of the population is in a deluded state and not of sound mind Maybe the 49/Billy can ask The AA for an orb to be sent that corrects the thinking of Terrans? It cant hurt to ask. A precedent is The Plejaren had an orb sent in the past to sort them out. Maybe Billy or The Shopfung Energie Lehre leaders requested the orb. The Teaching is here now but the planet is of unsound mind. Its worth a try i reckon. I am not trying to pass the buck, nor blame anyone and dont live in fear, i think everyday is a celebration and am grateful for everything. But just thinking as the 49/Billy are The Legitimate Shopfung Energie Lehre Leaders they would have the right to request an orb for a planet that is not of sound mind and is in a deluded state? Its obvious to anyone trying to show the Truth that the people are unable to grasp Truth, besides that the DNA of many people has changed from the falsifications in the false teaching, not just by the Sirians, this makes it impossible for them to realise they are in a god delusion. Its noted by Ptaah in the latest version of The Talmud Jmmanuel page LXXII how the temporal lobe and DNA are changed by religious belief that they cant act against belief and they are no longer master of his or her senses with regard to decision making ability. Thus no thoughts based on intellect or rationality can be maintained anymore and also they find no way to free themselves. As i said a precedent is known to us and maybe the Legitimate Shopfung Energie Lehre Leaders can put in a request to AA for consideration. Salome ilovebilly Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them. | ||
Hendrikus1970 Member Post Number: 169 Registered: 04-2009 |
You al are in denial,ofcourse ww3 will happen and ofcourse nato and thos fakejewish blackforces wil continue pyshing Russia and China. This is in the making a long time and it only stopped for a wile because people like obomba and trump became unexpected presidents. Obomba is now so brainwashed that he is terible person and bringer of dead to many. Trump wel the fakejewish black government got rid of him in 4 years time,with help of friends. And look Biden ,came to power and the Ruusia China gate stories and war emerge. As for the Ps,they withhold vital info, so we the genticly manipulated earth humans cant change that. We can only change ourselfs in our way of thinking The incident wil take place in a summer. Well if the billy the kid wnkrrs send this missles to ukraine then that your incident | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1506 Registered: 08-2010 |
In all the turmoil, I see the BRICS having an impact towards peace as more and more nations join. Everyone is joining BRICS. What we know about the dark order of the U.S. is being called out and many nations are now acknowledging this publicly. Every country supporting the Ukraine (WW4?) war is suffering and the people have been removing irresponsible politicians. Russia is clearly winning the war (I think it's mentioned in a contact that Russia will win - something to do with Henoch prophecy(?) and will soon dominate and win in my opinion. Analysts have made it clear that the Russian military is well prepared for ground fighting. That the NATO military is not. Many service personnel were mistreated and discharged for refusing the vaccines... this depleted NATO armed forces. Etc., etc. ((I doubt anyone is willing to run back into service at this point)). Perhaps, a lot of good will come from Russia. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Friteeucman Member Post Number: 158 Registered: 09-2021 |
C.R.136… Semjase: “144. The possibility exists only in the form in which you conduct it. 145. Small groups are required, which will spread in snowball fashion.” Semjase goes on to say, about the P.M: “461. The procedures have been instituted and mandated by the High Council, who have found a permissible method to intervene using a particular cosmic clause that could be used to influence terrestrial affairs.” The Federation’s hands are tied; but, in addition to feeding folks these telenotic impulses; the Peace Meditations are among their most effective tools to keep this planet from destroying itself…at least until the coming of the wise-ones. It absolutely and unequivocally had; has, and is Continuing to have an impact, the likes of which will likely only be found out in many years… Lyman t Urkke; F.e. -Lynxsis-Azam z da Klebvar; iki Prymam a Und z da Zota! (All-Props to the Creation; with Wisdom and Unity to the law(s) of Seven!) | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1951 Registered: 04-2011 |
@ My only hope is that the NATO insistence on expansion will bring about the prophecy that; "much good will come from Russia"... " If this is a reference to Edgar Cayce (1) then it should be said that EC gave as well a second reading (Reading 3976-29) about the same topic which clearly states that this "Peace from Russia" period refers to a time when Russia is not ruled by Communism but a time when Russia is guided by friendly relations with the US: “What then of nations? In Russia there comes the hope of the world, not as that sometimes termed of the Communistic, of the Bolshevistic; no. But freedom, freedom! that each man will live for his fellow man! The principle has been born. It will take years for it to be crystallized, but out of Russia comes again the hope of the world. Guided by what? That friendship with the nation that hath even set on its present monetary unit "In God We Trust." Seeing it all unfold - it may be the thought of perestroika that may re-evolve after our world has suffered so much from a war that did not produce any winners. (1) "Already 'the sleeping prophet, Edgar Cayce' wrote the following words about this: "Out of Russia's development greater hope will grow for the world. Then the one and the group who have closer ties with Russia will be able to achieve step by step changes and the definitive definitions of conditions in respect of the world rule." (Details see Bulletin 1) | ||
Getknowledge Member Post Number: 249 Registered: 04-2008 |
The Aquarius energy will help activate the evolution of the planet but it will take centuries to notice real change. If all else fails, the good news is that the truth can never be destroyed even if planet earth is blown to pieces. Your next incarnation will be on the nearest inhabited planet. Nothing is lost, all is recorded in various storage banks. Planet earth can be revisted if you have the means of time travel and even check out the Alexander Library if you wish. Just make the best of it and learn what what you can while you are here. Personally, recently, the simple truth is beginning to dawn on me of what Meier, Jmmanuel, Semjase, AA, etc has been describing in so many words. Which is a miracle as they have been misunderstood for thousands if not millions of years. I am noticing the error in my thought form, which is half the battle. Tien | ||
Bronzedesk Member Post Number: 273 Registered: 01-2011 |
Hi guys, I feel that we have gotten lost in the translation! I'm well aware of what's happening in this world and others, but your personal choice is paramount in this whole kit and caboodle/thingy. "To err is human, but to edit/your life inward is to be divine." I've stated before that we are the watchers in this life. We can coax ourselves and others as much as we dare to, but when it comes down to it is our personal life with ourselves; we share this light! Keep it Simple and Sweet for all and Self, but above all, you are the light that shines bright. Allow them to see your light and be attracted to it! But above all, it must be their choice and their choice alone, not yours! For you already know the path to follow! We are not meant to be Polly Anna here, but we are, in fact, just passing through this whole thing as observers of a sort while on to bigger and better things together as one! Dearest Scott, as always, thank you for being here for us and, of course, Michael! Without these two, we were not meant to be! Mat And the end of all our exploring, will be to arrive where we started, and know the place for the first time. ~ T. S. Eliot |
