Post Number: 5
|Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2017 - 01:20 am: ||
I have had various experiences of talking with others about it all. It can go badly which is why the FIGU recommends caution of knowing the limits, however knowing then makes it ok. I think it is possible to feel in the various lines of their questioning and answering how much can be revealed with an individual. On some occasions able to reveal everything, and on others just the neutral spectrum array of information without the stigmatic angst words which link all the subjects together, with some positive and interesting responses. Stigmatic angst words are for instance UFO, Ghost, Creation, Extraterrestrial, rebirth etc, I discovered that if these many words are tastefully exchanged for neutral terms such as 'Star trek enterprise rules', 'Star-gate SG1', 'Cloud of hot or cold gas', 'yin yang evolutionary sequence', 'Dude from another civilization', 'Gentlemen with the tech', 'Nature as it is seen and felt' etc then it is ok to reveal the full package with all the details. However to keep it real then the conversation must already be overlapping reality-studies, group learning, perhaps after you and the individual has been doing some rock-climbing together and have worked together in this reality based way. If conversing with a soft-skill-scientist then it is ok to omit various details, if conversing with a hard-skill-scientist it is ok to get granular on what they know about creativity without gloss paint-brushing them the arty terms, just talking facts, logic-gates, without revealing the full parameters.
Revealing the full parameters can only be done with individuals who have got over the Billy Meier counterfeit photos lip. So omiting FIGU and Billy Meier from the conversation is ok because else the conversation cannot ever go very far.
Have a nice day.
Post Number: 1319
|Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2017 - 09:06 am: ||
Over a good number of years, and a fair amount of travel, I've met many people. In the course of casual conversation I've actually ended up speaking to most of them about the Meier case.
This has also occurred even when the obvious introductory topics weren't being discussed. It's often come up when I'm asked, "What do you do?" I try to respond in a way that does "smooth the way", so to speak, if I think that it'll otherwise be way outside of their comfort zone.
Last year I was in the Phoenix airport waiting for a flight. It was crowded and there was only one empty seat next to me. A young Chinese woman - who'd just gotten off the plane from her long international flight - sat down next to me. As best I can recall, within two minutes I was showing her my site and the UFO photos, etc.
On the other hand, I've also had experiences where the subject didn't come up organically at all. Since I generally enjoy meeting and speaking with people when traveling, not every conversation need involve the Meier case.
Post Number: 22
|Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2017 - 01:27 am: ||
When I first found out about BEAM I did not feel the need to tell anyone about it. Mainly because the material warns against it and also because i was not really convinced myself. Those "early days" for me was more like being immersed in a very good very long novel that kept my interest and it was rather entertaining after a day at work. Then around December 2016 I found out about other internet sites where people were discussing the material and there was a rush if excitement for me because i recognised that other living folks had also discovered for themselves what I had found. So then I became more vocal about it. Not with people that I met in everyday life but mainly on the internet because there you can always put a link and let those who are interested go and explore further for themselves. I have noticed that there are one or two old friends who i never even see any more that did actually go do investigations for themselves which i am happy about (and feel good for them) But mostly my close friends and family have totally rejected anything to do with BEAM. Especially my father who is a staunch athiest. I moved back in with my parents a year ago and now I am having trouble with my father's anger and fury towards me. The way I introduced my dad to BEAMS work was a complete mistake. They came to lunch at my place once (before i moved in with them) and we got talking about the political situation... Suddenly i blurted out that it is all a big farce and that there is a better way of thinking and living. Then I showed him the they fly website stupidly thinking that he would just start reading it like I did. Following the story and actually reading for himself what I had read. A few weeks later he came back to me saying what a hoax it all is... He never even bothered to read they fly, instead he managed to find all the naysayers sites and we had an argument about it with his words to me being: If you want to know about Hitler you dont read Mein Kampf you read what others have said about him to get the full story... I have always looked up to my old man and thought he was the strongest most realistic and powerful person ever but now our whole relationship has deteriorated to a point where I have to avoid him and his fury at me. And even worse my opinion of him has lessened because I am now confronted with his anger with me and sometimes dont bother to keep my mouth shut when he attacks. We have always had robust arguments but these days I find much more strength in keeping calm and quiet rather than blowing up at him and that makes him even more angry. I have really had to weigh up my own need to be "right" versus my yearning to live in an environment where those close to me are also striving for truth. Because when ever I have tried to push "the material" onto them (close family members) it pushes them further away and these are the consequences I have to live with. I can only say that now i will be redoubling my efforts to learn and retain knowledge gained from Billys books so that I can become stronger and stronger in the truthly truth of all truth.
Post Number: 23
|Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2017 - 02:29 am: ||
Another thing regarding this subject is that I have a young child that is turning 5 years old in September and I am starting to worry how I am going to teach him about the truth in a way that is not going to put him in conflict with himself or others. He has been in a nursery school since one year old and has been religiously indoctrinated since then. Now that i changed my work to one where i can actually work from home I took him out of nursery school specifically to shield him from the religion and thinking that i would home school him. However I realised that its not going to work forever as I wont be a very good home schooling mom and he will have to go back to start his formal mandatory school career (grade RR as it is called here) in January 2018. I was just wondering if there are any other moms with young kids on this forum who are facing having to bring up young kids in a soceity that tends towards religious indoctrination at schools . I have held back from giving him any spiritual teaching ideas because I felt he was too young but am thinking of exploring the Billy for kids site with him soon... Just wondering how other moms are aproaching the subject with their young children.
Post Number: 24
|Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2017 - 02:30 am: ||
Something else i also want to get off my chest is a very bad experience I had on an internet group which is related to the Ubuntu movement which is an initiative in my country that is working towards a moneyless soceity. In that group there are rather aggressive proponents of the draco reptilian idea and I found myself being baited into trying to put right some of their wacky ideas. I eventually had to leave that group because I realised that their frustration and dedication to the idea that we are all slaves to the dracos was so strong that that there is absolutely nothing that I could say to change their minds. And I got first hand experience of being chewed up an spat out on that forum. It is a real pity because I still think that the underlying philosophy of ubuntu, which us an ancient African philosophy of community and caring for one another is very valid. Unfortunately the new age version of ubuntu that is being pushed now is based on "research" that is very flawed and misleading. Going through that experience on that site also once again led me to redoubling my efforts to learn in detail and retain the knowledge that BEAM has written down. It also reduced my need to tell others about BEAMs work because through making the mistakes I learned through cause and effect how this story will only sink into peoples consciousness through their own experiences of making their own mistakes. We have plenty lifetimes to learn this stuff and its not my responsibility to lead anyone else but myself to the truth.
Post Number: 16
|Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2017 - 09:07 am: ||
Another alert. Some of the most popular UFO talkers like David Wilcock and Corey Goode subscribe to the Law of One channeled teachings. I would like to have someone look into this and share more information. If you want Billy's books like the GOTT to reach more people, you are going to have to show that the Law of One material is not valid.
Post Number: 301
|Posted on Monday, July 16, 2018 - 06:45 pm: ||
I would have to say that probably the most difficult accomplishments would be to find another person that one can discuss this material with. Iíve been studying this for over ten years and have yet to really connect with someone that is truelly searching as I was and able to recognize the truth we have here. Iím thankful for this forum as Facebook just rubs me the wrong way. Iím never giving up looking for the kindred spirit as they say and until then I keep on reading and studying and cognizing!!!!
Post Number: 467
|Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2018 - 05:41 am: ||
Redbeard, I agree with you 100%. It's difficult to find like minded people on the Social Media platform. Yet at the same time, We are responsible for studying, learning, evolving, etc regardless. For millions of years, We've "missed opportunities". IMO, These times are the Best Opportunities, because the major of the population are Distracted in one way form or another.
Post Number: 199
|Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2018 - 04:35 am: ||
The best thing I have done personally, is to quit Facebook and stop being an 'information battery' in Mark Zuckerbergs version of the Matrix.
The best place to discuss the spirit teaching is the FIGU forum.
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
Post Number: 1
|Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2018 - 05:52 pm: ||
I agree that it's difficult to find other like-minded folks, in real life or on social media, to discuss this material with. I've tried selectively talking to friends and family and they give me that "that's nice" look. I don't even bother on most social media sites because folks are too aggressive and psychotic to have any type of meaningful discussion. In rare instances, you can find someone who is reasonable, but they are few and far between.
Billy mentioned in a recent contact report that a large portion of the people on Earth are going nuts, and he couldn't be more right. It's nice to have a few places online where we can discuss the material.
Post Number: 302
|Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2018 - 06:59 am: ||
Thank you for sharing that, especially about the Facebook issues. I have gone through a season of adjustment upon initially finding and realizing what the truth is and of course what wasn't true.... Somehow the later was even harder to grasp, considering the level of deliberate deception that was undertaken....
My attempts to connect to people face to face have been mixed...
Out of my four sons I've shared it with two and only one is able to openly discuss it.
I will continue to work on qualifying people to see if they are open enough. It seems many are believing that a certain thing is true as a means of psychological comfort and coping.
Post Number: 564
|Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2018 - 06:58 pm: ||
I have never joined any social medias and never intend too. And I often wondered why so many people did join them to tell the whole world about their private life.