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    Vestri Member Post Number: 185 Registered: 02-2006 |
Edward if you get the chance to watch Gattaca, do it. I'm sure you'll love it! IMO it is nearly every bit as good as Blade Runner. It is a thinker. Genes are really no supstitute for the Human Spirit. We will go from discrimination of colour of people's skin ect to discrimination of Genes. Hopefully that all ends when we get to the Spirit. I've seen Gattaca at least half dozen times and will still end up watching it more. The same goes for Blade Runner. Your right about Rutger Hauer. He was superb in Blade Runner. I never forget the cinema audience's response (and mine) with what his character did/said at the end of the film. Everyone, guys and girls were shedding tears. A brilliant ending for a brilliant film. | ||
Vestri Member Post Number: 186 Registered: 02-2006 |
Oh I forgot to mention that Blade Runner was the basis of why I asked this question to billy early last year. In the film man 'created' replicants to help out to do their work. The same situation as what the P's did with the androids. Replicants in film and P's Androids, are same thing. Hello Billy, the plejarens created androids on Erra to work for them, like as in how Quetzal has his own android working specifically for him at his house. In this type of situation on Erra, does a relationship of friendship then starts to form between a Plejaren and an android, and if so, in what way does that type of friendship differ from the friendship between a Plejaren and another Plejaren on Erra? Would a Plejaren ever bother to waste any of his time in going out to pay a friendly visit to an android he used to previously know? If this type of friendship does not exist, then I would like to know how the Plejarens view the lifesworth of an android on Erra. Many Thanks Answer The androids are capable to think by themselves and they are treated respectfully by the P’s. And yes, it is possible that “friendship” can develop. But Billy does not know details about such relationships. (Note by CF: Even on Earth there are people who have some kind of friendly relationship with their car, ship or engine, etc., they even talk with them, or kick them if they do not function as they should [something a P. certainly would not do]) http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/6175.html#POST20428 | ||
Vestri Member Post Number: 187 Registered: 02-2006 |
Apart from Replicants being in human form, they were identical to being the same thing to the Androids in that they were made from bio-organic material, and not human - hence why they could submerse their hands in boiling water. The other thing (to me) that made them the same thing to the P's Androids was that they clearly had no spirit form inside them. Their brains were given childhood "memory implants" from other peoples children. Thats where the similarity to contact 251 ends because they had no spirit forms and we do. This is why I saw the replicants in the film as being an identical situation to the P's androids working for them, and why I asked Billy that particular question, because in the film these replicants were seen/treated as being nothing more important then some sort of expendable material object/thing, and why no concern was given to the feelings of these replicants (independently thinking beings) to put them down when they ran away from their job. | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 283 Registered: 10-2005 |
Hi Vestri, Some of the core group members of FIGU cautioned me about the usefulness of media films. Their rational, was this: since films were created for entertainment purposes... rather than for knowledge, people would be correct in seeing them for that reason alone. A whole troupe of Phd psychologists are often used to create certain realities out of nonesense, and finding the truth in a media presentation is sort of like gleaning a Phd from a magazine. Am in agreement with you, some movies do make you think... | ||
Badr Moderator Post Number: 233 Registered: 12-2004 |
Hello Everyone, Not finished my vacation but only a few more days left, so I have some time to check on the forum, can I remind everyone that this section is related to "The Mission", so any other videos or movies should be discussed in Miscellaneous section. Plus while I am at it, can you all please remember this is the FIGU forum and FIGU related issues should be discussed and not “Blade Runner” and or “Freemasons” for example. Everyone can do his own search to find more about these things without having to discuss it on this forum which is dedicated to FIGU and paid by FIGU members, so kindly get back to discussing FIGU related issues. PS: My vacation (visiting Switzerland) is nice, not to think that I am coming back stressed ;-). But I am just disappointed that there are more unrelated issues being discussed then FIGU related. Salome, Badr | ||
Hector Member Post Number: 328 Registered: 04-2006 |
It has been said many times that the Baavi have been influencing sci-fi writers and moviemakers, to prepare mankind for a new picture of the future, and some of us clearly see in movies like Blade Runner, Star Wars, Star Trek the influence of Baawi "artists". The Baawi have to do with Figu and The Mission, sending impulses to scientists and writers.So what's wrong with posting here. One of the goals of the Mission is to slowly prepare mankind and the consciousness of the earth man for the coming changes of the Aquarian Age, which will produce immense changes in our civilization and poor spirituality.(my interpretation after reading Arahat Athersata). Blade Runner, Star Trek do this in an extraordinary and subtle way. | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 284 Registered: 10-2005 |
During my visit to SSSC last May... Billy told Mike Hooten: "It's not like Star Trek." | ||
Badr Moderator Post Number: 234 Registered: 12-2004 |
Hello Hector, I do not disagree with you on the point of the impulses that were sent to various people, but this discussion has ended up discussing what “Replicants” are or the actors, reviews and plots of the various movies for example and talking about details which will not further our evolution which is the point of the mission (helping our evolution). Briefly mentioning something could be let through like recommending a movie by just giving the name, and people interested would read and search further, but analyzing and posting details about movies is a bit off topic. Analyzing one of the documentaries done about FIGU or by FIGU is more appropriate for example. Salome, Badr | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 920 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Rarena and All.... Concerning: Star Trek... I would agree, Rarena. If I remember it correctly, Billy mentioned that Star Trek: Comes The Closest (To). Which is of course, totally something different than: 'Like'; which is, being as. Edward. | ||
The_original_dave Member Post Number: 107 Registered: 05-2007 |
Since the androids the P's make have a mind of there own don't they ever quit or think why are they being used as servants. i know that's what there for but since they can think for themselves wouldn't they want to live normal lives or something. are they programmed to not think this way and to accept that there androids and there there to help. | ||
Vestri Member Post Number: 188 Registered: 02-2006 |
I agree with Hector. I don't see anything wrong with discussing movies which could have been helped brought about by ET Impulse Induced or discussing movies that have story lines associated with topics/things in the Meier case. I don't see what the harm is. Also those two films were raised/recommended because some here considered them masterpieces/good films. | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 318 Registered: 08-2004 |
Hello o_dave, Androids are an interesting question. The same could be asked of the Grey androids Billy has said have visited us. I wrote a paper on these back in 1999-2000 calling them BRBs or Biologically Robotic Beings. The character of these can be read through scientific principles of hand analysis. This confirmed their "android" (if you prefer that word) nature. In the Grey BRBs or android's case it is not that they are "programmed to not think this way"; they are created without the brain function to think that way in the first place. With the Greys this is evinced by their lack of a thumb which shows they have no will power and merely follow orders or programs given by others. Without will power even humans can initiate nothing on their own. The thumb evinces the will, logic and emotional/familiar sections of the character and brain. There are nerve connections between the thumb and these sections of the brain. When just the will phalanx of the thumb is extremely short or deficient the individual will always need guiding and encouragement to do anything in life and it is said they will at most become good servants -- but will need constant watching and encouragement. Of course the Ps androids are a little different, but it is how the android is created or developed from start that I think you will find is the key. They do not start with a fully functional human and program backwards. That would be a violation of human rights. Perhaps you could ask the equally fascinating question, "Shouldn't androids (Grey, P, or what/whoever) be given the ability to be creative, think for themselves, and have will power like human beings." Maybe that's part of the Enki story/mythology. A key point seems to be the spirit/soul. The android not having one, my guess is they do not have the human right to the former qualities. Perhaps they'd run amok without the evolutionary progress to handle such qualities with wisdom and love? Or perhaps it is the presence of a spirit/soul that enables the will and creative aspects to find their expression -- providing there is no brain damage preventing such. Best, Chris | ||
Badr Moderator Post Number: 236 Registered: 12-2004 |
Hello Vestri, As a moderator I try to see things through various view points, whether a post should be accepted or not, which is the most difficult part of being a moderator. Guess what sometimes it might fit your views and sometimes not. One cannot satisfy everyone. Although I didn’t disagree that the movies are good, I mentioned that the posts should be more in line with the topic of FIGU mission, in relation to movies and videos. It is a matter of interpretation, my interpretation of The Mission is in relation to the goals of FIGU. As in you can always request to create a topic about Sci-Fi movies, but it will not be under The Mission. And I will repeat again talking about the details and comparing the movies with the teachings is your choice, but that doesn’t mean it relates to the mission of FIGU, which in other words is also the spreading of the spiritual teachings and other related issues which affect our evolution. So I can’t help it if you can’t agree with me that analyzing and reviewing those movies will not help our (“our” I mean the people on the forum) evolution. The least you can do is continue analyzing those movies or discuss it in the Non-FIGU Miscellaneous section, if you really need to, or think it is very valuable to other forum members. PS: If you want to know what this section or topic initially was for, how about go back to the archive and see the issues discussed 1999 and onwards, and compare it to the current discussion… …noticed anything? ;-) that is what I mean. Salome, Badr | ||
Vestri Member Post Number: 189 Registered: 02-2006 |
Hi Badr, I see what you mean now. If I want to discuss any more (hollywood) movies in future, I will do it in a more appropriate section then this one because this isn't really the right/best place to be doing it. | ||
Sirashwin Member Post Number: 154 Registered: 05-2007 |
Here is a video clip from some FOX Special programme trying to debunk the Meier Case. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6893027018765549462&q Salome ashwin | ||
Baselineplayer Member Post Number: 9 Registered: 09-2007 |
I am not surprised by the actions taken by the FOX TV-channel. It acts more like a propaganda channel for what I regard as warmongers. Med Bästa Hälsningar / Mit Besten Grüssen / With Best Regards /Baselineplayer | ||
The_original_dave Member Post Number: 109 Registered: 05-2007 |
WOW i just started watching the documentary Sirashwin gave us the link to and damn did they just jump to conclusions and called Billy's case a hoax right off the bat. so far the 9 min i've been watching have disgusted me. there not even giving him a chance at all. hell there calling figu a cult /as usual/ and comparing us to heavens gate!!!!!!!! and the solar temple!!!!!! there also saying we might all commit mass suicide cause billy's got us all ''brain washed''!!!! NOT only are they making these outrages claims but there misinformed as well, an example of this would be they said billy says the world will come to an end. sorry for the harsh post but stuff like this really angers me. they haven't even bothered in listening to what billy or credible investigators have to say. there lead ''investigator'' is KORFF, now i know you guys are gonna say well it's korff, don't get angry he's just blind to the truth and an all out liar. yes that is true but this was boradcast to millions of homes and these ''investigators'' were presented as if they were credible!!!!. ----------------------------------- ok, i feel better now. | ||
Adityasonakia Member Post Number: 85 Registered: 07-2007 |
Dear Dave, Don't trouble yourself with these FOX people, you know what is right and true, FOLLOW IT. As I have said before, these people have a low evolution probably and hence find it difficult to understand the mission. Also "Capt" Karl Korff is leading them, so you know how he will brain wash people himself. By seeing that they have'nt even given Billy a chance to speak, they are wrong. We are a peaceful society, we are all brothers and sisters, WE ARE LIKE A FAMILY. Salome Aditya | ||
Kaare Member Post Number: 57 Registered: 03-2003 |
Dear Ashwin, I also watched the FOX clip and I did not expect them to reveal any truth about the Meier case. Regarding the scene where the beamship is flying around the tree. Too often fake ufo pictures have been presented and believed by so-called UFO specialists and even scientists when the pictures were obvious fakes. The way the Plejaran beamship flew around the tree is not how the their beamships normally move. They however deliberately made their beamship fly in this an artificial jerky pendulum-like motion around the tree in order to create controversy. As I understand it was done to bring about a certain thinking/reasoning in people. When those interested studied it closer, they would then recognize this was a artificially created maneuvering but would still be able to conclude that the ship is real. Because that evidence exist, that the ship is real (real size etc) for those looking further into it. But at the same time it would give deniers a reason to debunk the case as they would just point to the pendulum like motion and not bother to study it further. As I understand it, it is a way of sorting out those that that are able to think with logic and reason from those who blindly believe without thinking. (see contact 255 1995 block 7 page 321-322) See also Jim Deardorff website : Plausible Deniability http://www.proaxis.com/~deardorj/denial.htm Regards Kaare | ||
Sirashwin Member Post Number: 159 Registered: 05-2007 |
Greetings to All Does anyone remember of any programme aired on The History Channel to do anything with Billy? Also by chance do you know if it is there anywhere on the net? Salome ashwin | ||
Vestri Member Post Number: 197 Registered: 02-2006 |
Hi Ashwin, You can find most (Foxtel) History Channel documentary's by doing a search on Google Video or YouTube. Look for your own region. This is Australia's. http://video.google.com.au/ http://www.youtube.com/browse?s=mp | ||
Sirashwin Member Post Number: 172 Registered: 05-2007 |
New picture at theyfly.com (came to know thanks to gaiaguys.net) http://www.theyfly.com/photos/1NewPics/F_0174_rgb.tif Salome ashwin | ||
Mike Member Post Number: 45 Registered: 01-2007 |
Hi Ashwin, many thanks for the link and of course a word of thanks for all the excellent work that Gaiaguys and Michael and doing. For me personally this is perhaps the best photograph of a non-terrestrial craft or what is popularly and erroneously termed in our culture a UFO. I feel like I am almost there beside Billy when he took this wonderful photo of Semjase’s new craft. If my understanding is correct, when this photo was taken by Billy in circa 1975, it shows Semjase’s newest BeamShip capable of many improved technical feats and with capabilities to transcend time and other dimensions. Of course what is even more amazing are the people in the ships! Salome Mike |
