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Michael_horn
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Posted on Monday, March 11, 2019 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

See: http://www.theyfly.com/new-questions-answers-billy-meier

5. Is there an autism/vaccine connection?

BEAM: The state of Plejaren scientific knowledge is that Autism Spectrum Disorder proceeds from a multifactorial model of origination, where the sole cause is not a vaccination – however depending on the given circumstances it can be. The Plejaren know of no clear correlation between vaccination and ASD. A common occurrence of vaccination and autistic symptoms shows no causal relation between the two, which means that a vaccination must not be the cause but can be under given circumstances. Whether a human being, be it a child, adolescent or adult, shall be vaccinated or not, possible consequential damages can occur in either case. All maladies and illnesses can have a very complicated progression, and also very serious consequences.
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Hugo
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Does anyone know if Billy ever mentioned in private if the Dark Order had anything to do with bringing about our upside down death "peace symbol"? The reason I ask is because Ptaah said by the "death rune" -

Ptaah:
2. For my part, I think it is good, and it is also urgently necessary that an enlightenment should finally take place regarding the false 'peace symbol' that is being abused worldwide by the death rune.

3. The fact is that the death rune 'symbol of peace', since it has been used in demonstrations and for all sorts of purposes, has triggered very negative and bad vibrations in earth people, according to its meaning, which are directed towards discord, intolerance, war, murder and manslaughter, xenophobia and racial hostility, as well as towards strife and lack of freedom and disharmony.

5. The false 'peace symbol', the death rune, was already designed as a 'peace sign' in 1958 by the British artist Gerald Holtom.

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_599


The term "death rune" has been used in the context of esotericist or occultists is why I ask. Am I reading into something that really isn't there?
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Hoota_thunk
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Let us let our ego's run riot and assume that we here are of ET origin and have a spirit-form that is 10 million yrs old... only 30 to 50ish million yrs to go...
Votan, search for The Dangers of Soy, overpopulation, etc... on futureofmankind.
Andrew Grimshaw
- The Quiet Revolution Of Truth -
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Tat_tvam_asi
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“Upside Down Peace Symbol”

I am not quite sure about the dark order, Hugo.
But I am quite sure that the thinking of many of today's humans - esp. the 'successful' and 'powerful' ones - is based on a thought of looking down on others.

And, borrowing an insight from Buddhism, in this life-state ("anger and envy"), a person cannot “think right”, that is, he is drawn to call that what is right wrong and that what is wrong right.*)

It is this wrong life-state, which defines the overwhelming attitude of “humans in power” on our planet which creates the unending series of catastrophes we witness. It is due to their self-glorified illusion and double-standards they are unable to respect cause and effect and, as a consequence, nature, as the custodian of the universal Laws of Seven, 'rebels' more and more violently.

Salome,

Bill

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That is why it is never right to be angry: we would lose sight of what is right.
...
Yes, outwardly this life state creates a consciousness of illusive "personal" strength.
But similar to Darwin’s Law of the fittest it feels predestined to rule over others and cannot embrace a world connected in oneness. That is -
A person in the life state of “envy and anger” does not self-reflect.
And so it would blame others for what is but a reflection of himself.

Ultimately it is, as we mentioned many times, the education of a consciousness of superiority which, under the guise of “outward benevolence and virtue”, blinds academia, religions, politics, sciences, industry etc. – none of which would educate that our universe is built upon sharing and seeking a balance and that each being, the highest and the lowest, is a part of us. Instead our world teaches and seeks excesses… and then wonders why their "inventions" create the unnatural, upside-down world in which we live.
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Hugo
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I don't know but I think it seems too much of a coincidence for the peace symbol to be an upside down version of the true peace symbol. A peace symbol could have been anything (olive leaf, ect) but that is what was chosen.
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Votan
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Hugo

Does it really matter what a symbol represents.It is the action that manifests in any conflict.

Even the swastika was stolen by the Nazis from the ancients and they turned it to evil by what they stood for.
joe
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Tat_tvam_asi
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You are right, Hugo, it certainly was not a coincidence:
That is what my post wanted to tell:
When people look down on others in anger / irony / hate (check the articles in our MSN) they lose their sense of what is right and wrong. As a result they do and call the wrong right. The upside-down peace symbol is just one of the many instances in our upside-down world.
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Hugo
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Posted on Wednesday, May 15, 2019 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Votan,

yes and no.



Tat_tvam_asi,

I am not saying that it was NOT a coincidence because I don't know. Hence why I asked if anyone here knows if Billy said something privately about about the matter. But it does seem to me like it was likely NOT a coincidence because if we asked someone/people to come up with a peace symbol what are the odds that it would be an upside down version of the true peace symbol when it could have been drawn as anything?

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