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Markc
Member
Post Number: 663
Registered: 06-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 10:01 pm: | 
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Hi Marcela ;
I think you are on a wonderful track of understanding and personal growth . You may want to consider thinking through the idea of telling everyone about it and speaking too freely , especially at first . I write this to you from experience , but of course , we have to do things that we have impulses to do , but care for impulsiveness . When the time is right for you , you can go forth with great power , like Michael Horn does very easily . But he lives in Los Angeles , which is very different from the southern states where I live ; however , there is always a way to accomplish that which is destined . At times you will speak of it with such natural grace that it will sprout like flowers in the minds of those who hear it . Other times , somewhat awkward , but even those incidents teach timing . In any case , always try to think these things through thoroughly twice ...... but you don't have to only use words with a T .
Kindness , MC
Mark Campbell
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Marcela
Member
Post Number: 11
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 09:32 pm: |
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Hi Mark,
Thank you for your kind encouraging words; I know I have ahead of me many years of information that Billy has been writing for us, but I will do it. Not only for myself, but for my family and friends. And ultimately, like you said, to anyone else that in a certain moment I will choose to share the good news with. For example, the other day I was tutoring a 13 year old girl, who was very interested in the Talmud Jammanuel, and she wanted to borrow my book. The thing is that a lot of people asked me to borrow my book. But I only have one copy, so what I am going to do is have a second copy to lend and on other occasions, if I have money I will buy the book as a gift. However, if I tell anybody to buy the book I will have to tell them about the contacts because they will see it on the web page anyways. The other day I was talking to my boss and his wife and , for some reason, she believes in reincarnation, so I am going to buy her the Talmud. And like that I will help with the mission. Luckily, I live in a very open community, I live in Santa Rosa, California and I am studying here. The US immigration office calls me a "legal Alien"…got to love that name, though I am from Bolivia, which is in this planet.  I like it here, like I said very welcoming community, though religious fanatics are everywhere and you got be careful about whom you talk to about Billy.
Take care,
mb
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Markc
Member
Post Number: 665
Registered: 06-2000
| | Posted on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 09:32 pm: |
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Hi Marcela ;
You live in a great city . I know that you have great sense , so I wasn't worried about you .
MC
Mark Campbell
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Humanbeing
Member
Post Number: 6
Registered: 02-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 09:31 am: |
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Hi Mark,
I am silent follower of Billy Meier and purchased his materials through michael horn theyfly.com my experiences was quiet difficult convincing my country men and family(Philippines)about billy and the spirit teachings somehow there are few who listen and read the materials specially Talmud of Jmmanuel, I know those who heared was intrigued and will dig the information we are bringing, spirit teaching will soon spread in the entire world as predicted.
standing in spirit,
Humanbeing
Philippines |
Markc
Member
Post Number: 673
Registered: 06-2000
| | Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 09:52 pm: |
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My fellow Human ;
Excellent ! Enjoy everything .
Mark
Mark Campbell
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Phenix
Member
Post Number: 13
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 07:01 am: |
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Hello there,
Going through the archives of Discussionboard(The Mission: New Ideas to help the mission improve), i came across a debate on how useful and appropriate are the ways we go about FIGU materials(April 2008; between Thomas2008, Ennui246, Jamesum, Mr Horn, Markc, the_Original_Dave, Alan, badr...)
I would like to share my experience on this topic and ask a couple of questions.
I heard about Herr Meier for the very time thanks to a video presentation of Mr Randy Winters(now that i have found more about this gentleman, i realize how ironical this was!) on Youtube(i have never been on Youtube before; a friend sent me there to view 'Achmed the dead terrorist', and i went on looking around...).
I have been of course sharing 'my discovery' with other people around me.
Here is why i proceeded:
I have been sending mails to people i know, Comrades, friends, students, classmates... with the following contents:
[Hi Comrades,
I hope you are all just doing fine.
Did you ever hear of a Swiss gentleman called Billy Meier?
If not - and if you have some time - do google this name. It is quite unusual.
Read for yourself and draw your own conclusions.
Regards,
Adam.]
Or,
[Listen Barbara, did you ever hear of a Swiss gentleman called Billy Meier(full name, Edouard Albert Meier)?
If not(and if you happen to have some time), then do google Billy Meier - of just go to: www.theyfly.com(for first hand information)
It is quite astonishing!( pay attention to his writings aus 1958).
Just read with open mind, think and draw your own conclusion.
You could also google: Billy Meier Contact Notes Chronikboy.
Additional information could be found by googling: George Green.
See first who George Green is, then Look at 'Project Camelot interviews George Green'
(Note: this is the path i followed to get to where i am now.)]
Or,
[Philippe, as-tu entendu parler de l'auteur de ce texte(Desiderata) - ton compatriote, Billy ou bien Edouard Albert Meier?
Si cela t' interesse tu pourrais en savoir plus en allant a: http://www.figu.org/ch/
A bientot alors.
Adam.]
Or,
[Mike, heb je van de heer Billy Meier gehoord?
Zo niet, google, alsjeblieft, deze naam; lees en trek je eigen conclusies - het is misschien niets, maar je weet maar nooit.
Je kunt meer (en uit de eerste hand) over Billy Meier leren op: www.theyfly.com
Daar vind je ook interessante gegevens ook over ene Kal Korff, diegene die beweerde dat de heer Meier een bedrieger is(of gewoon, google Kal Korff en zie zelf wie hij is).
Ik ben vooral geinteresseerd in de humanistische, milieubewuste en algemeen menselijke kant van de ervaringen van de heer Meier. Hier herken ik mijn eigen overtuigingen - maar je kunt ook kijken naar datgene wat de heer Meier geschreven heeft al in 1958!
Google daarna de naam George Green.
Kijk eerst wie hij is, dan volg zijn interview onder de titel: ' Project Camelot interviews George Green' - part 1 and 2.
Dat interview is te vinden op de allereerste link: NUjij.nl/Wetenschap/Project Camelot interviews George Green(video).
Eenmaal op die pagina, klik op video.google.com
Let op wat hij te zeggen heeft over herr Billy Meier - een verheldering van de verhouding tussen die twee heren is ook op de 'google results' pagina te vinden, bij de link: George Green clarifies role in Meier Case.
Als je nog energie hebt en genoeg gemotiveerd bent, is het tweede interview van de heer Green ook interessant: George Green(The Big Picture- An economic forecast for...
Weet je, Het is raar, maar mijn gevoel zegt mij dat dit serieus is en dat het lezen van die stof de moeite waard is, wat er ook gebeurt.
Beschouw dit alles gewoon als een alternatieve werkelijkheid, dat wil zeggen, bekijk dit rustig, kritisch en vooral ruimdenkend - zoals je het dagelijks doet bij iedere nieuwe informatie.
Fijne dag nog!
Adam.]
Mijn first question is: are my actions in line with the ways of Figu?
I have also been forwarding the 'Desiderata by Billy' to a number of people i personally know, without disclosing where it came from.
They all reacted very positively to it(typical reactions: Thanks, wonderful text! It gives me peace of mind! A text you should be reading everyday! Sounds like a message from allah, doesn't it?...)
and some of them asked even for more.
Second question: what is the best way to proceed?
Sending excerpts(like 'Basic Rules of Man';'Introduction to the Spiritual Teachings by Semjase at the tenth Contact'; just a Contact Note...);
or writing down all together the web address of FIGU to those asking for the same type of materials(the way i understood it) as 'Desiderata'?
Salome!
Adam. |
Jpm
Member
Post Number: 36
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 01:24 pm: |
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adam,
just don't get to disappointed (if your claimed responses are not exaggerated) if most of the people that you send the material to in the future don't respond as you expect them too. Despite whatever method you "choose" to use.
"if a central truth was a reality at lowly levels of the human-psyche, evolution would not be possible." - JPM
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Phenix
Member
Post Number: 15
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 03:32 am: |
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Hi Jpm,
I have got your point.
The responses i wrote down are just the truth and they are exclusively related to the 'Desiderata' - and as you know this text goes only onder the name ' Desiderata by Billy' and there is not hint that it might be connected to UFO and ET(unless one finds out what FIGU(indicated at the end of ' Desiderata' ) stands for by gooling it.
Phenix,
In your post you copied numerous people's e-mail addresses. Since this is an international forum, you might consider asking these people if it is permissable for their addresses to be shared and viewed by others.
Regards
Scott |
Phenix
Member
Post Number: 16
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 03:24 pm: |
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Hi Scott,
Thanks for your observation.
I indeed did not thoughtfully enough consider this aspect of the matter. Mea culpa!
Salome. |
Phenix
Member
Post Number: 21
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 10:18 am: |
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Hi Jpm,
A Comrade, to whom i wrote about Herr Meier, sent me the following mail:
"Never heard of this gentleman before. I just took a brief look at his site and found it so interesting that I definitely will spend more time with him. Thanks!
Do vstrechi"
The Teaching is winning grounds!
Cheer up and see you at the Peace Meditation!
Salome. |
Bodhran
Member
Post Number: 19
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 05:10 am: |
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Hi all,
In regards to telling people about Billy Meier my experience in Ireland has been that when told and people go to research what I tell them that they are confronted with a wall of misinformation/disinformation which stops them in their tracks.To me it seems that the plausable deniability approach to the evidence is weighed too heavily in the corner of the skeptics because of evidence being stolen, altered, subtituted etc. It is difficult to witness friends and family unable to get past this point and lose out on the most important message in humanity's history. My feeling is that I'll leave out the evidence and where the message comes from from now on and only talk about the message about creation and personal responsibility. If people find truth in that then I'll introduce them to the source.
Salome
Tony.
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Zohan
New member
Post Number: 2
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 09:56 pm: |
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Hi Tony and All,
I understand your predicament. I did tried telling some people and it so happened that they are open minded ones and they would listen. You will only know the effect when they get back to you to know more on what you know or they will proceed and learn more on their own.
Some of them will tell you what they think and you should listen to them to know more about the reactions of different kinds of people, that way you would gain more knowledge and be able prepare yourself what to expect the next time you try.
You could try to talk to your inner self before you start talking (jmmanuels prayer or the lords prayer would be a great help) your spirit will guide you even you know it or not. There is no define approach to do this for there are so many different views, beliefs and personalities you will encounter. I my self is having troubles on this.
I have some ideas that only applies to certain individuals of certain beliefs. I think it is very important to know the persons personalities and the beliefs structure that they are involved in before you try anything.
You can start by asking them about their questions in life, if you received an answer you are looking for to proceed... by all means take THAT OPPORTUNITY. Try explaining to them what you know in a way that it would not be offensive and suggestive. You must consider that you are only being heard, what the person do on the information you gave after that is still up to him/her.
Here are some things that i will always consider when speaking about the truth:
1. You should not be suggestive but always remain on the truth.
2. You should not lie about the truth to convinced someone.
3. Be clear on what you say and make sure you will not turn out to be offensive.
There are too many things to consider and the list could go on forever. But you will figure it out as you go along.
I hope this helps to some of you. I am also and will always be welcome to anyones point of view and ways to approach people.
SAALOME,
ZOHAN |
Phenix
Member
Post Number: 53
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2008 - 05:59 am: |
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Hello Kameraden,
I would like to follow up on the post of Zohan.
When i rushed to share the Materials of Herr Meier i pumped into similar reactions and obstacles, for i used to try to make a summary of those Experiences and Teachings(and of course, i directly and prominently made mention of the so-called ET's) and send the links of FIGU and Theyfly to other People.
Everything changed in a positive way, when i came across 'Desiderata by Billy' - i have yet to see any of the People i approched remaining indifferent to the depth and the Power of that particular work.
Nowadays i forward 'Desiderata' to People i know and when they wish to know more( very often the case), i then send them, either 'Being Oneself', 'Introduction to the Spiritual Teachings or the Rules of Man', or 'Contact Report volume: 1,Pages: 11-20; Sfath's Explanation( http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Sfath%27s_Explanation)' the Document 'Warning To All European Governments 1958' or one of the Prophecies or Predictions - according to the person's natural inclination, the way i undertood it.
On the next step, i suggest my New Friends to take a look at: www.futureofmankind.co.uk, or at: http://www.geocities.com/maurice_osborn/ES05.htm
So far, so good.
Salome. |
Bodhran
Member
Post Number: 20
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2008 - 09:03 am: |
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Thank you both for your replies,
I have forwarded on Desiderata and other pieces to people and that is probably how I'll approach it in the future. I originally tried to introduce friends of mine who are interested in ufology through the evidence, but they ran into the wall of disinfo. At least people can feel a truth within themselves if they read something as meaningful as Desiderata.
Thanks again.
Salome
Tony.
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Zohan
New member
Post Number: 3
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 02:01 am: |
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Tony and All,
It's always a pleasure to help in spreading the word of truth for the mission.
I have created an account in a website that could help people like us to have a small group that could expand the avalance of truth. In there we could see our friends and comrades for the mission, we could also see how much people we have reached. I do believe that this will help a lot.
And we could also do our own discussion on how we can spread the TRUTH. If any of you are interested click this link http://profiles.friendster.com/84279952 to see my profile. You have to create a profile of your own and send me an invitation so we can link, from there you will know what to do. As i have said before the truth could only be heard by people who have an open mind. "As TJ always says... Those who have ears let them hear"
SAALOME
ZOHAN |
Zohan
New member
Post Number: 4
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 03:24 am: |
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Hi Humanbeing,
We are in the same place of arena. Maybe we should have a chat sometimes. Here's my URL http://profiles.friendster.com/84279952 if you are interested.
It's very tough sharing with people in our contry. But let me tell u about what the general population's idea on this. Our countrymen knows and believed the UFO exist either the one made in brazil or from other planets. Look for this people first and learn the lesson you will get from talking to an open mind. You have to developed your oneness with the creation and whatever you thought you don't have will come so easily. And never again you will say you are a silent follower....
I am in the same situation now. But i have learned that i need to developed my oneness to my spirit first and learn how to draw my powers from the creation. I do understand that the truth is yearning to come out and it is not easy to contain. Your spirit is planning your days ahead already without you knowing it and it is laying the most logical path for you in doing your heart's desire. Take sometime to put more energy in your meditation.
I hope this helps to anyone to read this.
SAALOME,
ZOHAN |
Zohan
Member
Post Number: 6
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 10:25 pm: |
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Hi All,
***start of note***
NOTE TO: MODERATOR
Could you please check with Dear Billy if this reference would be useful for the mission before posting this Message. I am not in any desire to give a wrong guidance. My only intention is to extend a helping hand to enlightened ones and help them in spreading the truth to people who are raised in the false teachings of christianity. If there is a need for you to modify please do so.
***end of note***
I have not yet come into possesion of any book that billy has written (i'm remotely located in this small country called singapore), but i did have some references that you guys may want to consider.
If you read the TJ you will notice that everything is written in PARABLES and it is what i believe is the direct translation word for word (which is why we could not use any existing bible anymore epecially the new testament in NIV). There is a Gospel of Thomas that has been discovered a over a hundred years back. i'll attached some important phrases for you to read it is very interesting.
But as we already know the people who have this writings are using greed to interpret the words. The good thing is they did not altered anything in their translations. The true meaning is still in it's original form. I have replaced Jesus as Jmmanuel (that is the only thing they have changed)
GOSPEL OF THOMAS – The Secret Sayings
1) And He said, "Whoever finds the interpretation of these sayings will not experience death."
2) Jmmanuel said, "Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the All."
3) Jmmanuel said, "If those who lead you say, 'See, the Kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the Kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living Father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."
8) And He said, "The Kingdom is like a wise fisherman who cast his net into the sea and drew it up from the sea full of small fish. Among them the wise fisherman found a fine large fish. He threw all the small fish back into the sea and chose the large fish without difficulty. Whoever has ears to hear, let him hear."
I hope this will help to some of us who are raised in the false teachings of Christianity.
If anyone of you need the full 114 Sayings send me an email zohan.universe@gmail.com and i will send it to you, or you could download it on the internet yourselves. Or if the moderator post this message i will be another message that will include the files in PDF format. you may want to download a free Adobe Acrobat PDF reader to read this.
Just search for THE GOSPEL OF THOMAS
Translations by: Thomas O. Lambdin (Coptic version)
If you could understand this sayings it will help you a lot in spreading the truth for people who are raised in the teachings of christianity. You should strenghtened your self with meditation and your oneness with creation before using some kind of this reference, truly i say to you if you are not strong enough in CREATION's true power everything will back fire to you. When that happens it could only mean that you are not ready, i have learned my lesson. There are people who are standing thier grounds in the wrong teachings.
Saalome,
ZOHAN |
Zohan
Member
Post Number: 10
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 07:25 pm: |
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TO ALL,
MY RETRACTION: Forget about the gospel of thomas as a major rule do not use anything that is not or have no direct connection with what Billy is teaching. I do apologized if some of you pursue the information i posted i hope i did not cause any confusion on some of you. It's fun to read thou... 
Saalome,
ZOHAN |
Indi
Member
Post Number: 248
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 09:09 pm: |
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Dear Zohan
There are other sources of the truth other than Billy's teachings -- it would be unwise to think otherwise.
What is important though, is not to waste too much time, reading material year after year, that sounds good in some part but not in other parts, that comes from an unknown source, and where the agenda/purpose of it is not known or fully understood by the searcher/reader.
Many people on this forum and also some not on this forum, have studied the case of Billy Meier and come to the conclusion that his material is trustworthy -- and when this conclusion is reached, and one finds the vast amount of information available from this 'thought to be trustworthy' source, there is very little time left to pursue other sources.
However, there are many who study the material in some way, who also come to the conclusion that it is not trustworthy -- they can see problems in the material that bother them enough for them to reject most if not all of it. That also is alright.
Many people here are in their first 20 yrs or so of this incarnation and maybe have not yet had enough time to read much of the material out there, and so, I think it is important to look at it as part of your journey, however, when you reach closer to 50 yrs, and have read and studied many things, it is easier and less of a time-waster to narrow ones focus onto more trusted material.
I will dare to say, that if the only material a young person came across or had access to was Billy's, then if they chose to study it alone, I don't think they would suffer measurably, by not having access to other material. This lifetime is so short, that getting a grasp of what the Meier material has to offer in one lifetime would be a momentous achievement.
So, Zohan, let your journey take you where it does, but if you find the Meier material interesting and you are drawn to it, then I would suggest you investigate it further, maybe immerse yourself in it for a while until you know one way or another whether it is for you -- and that you feel it is trustworthy. Until you 'know' this by using your inherent powers of logic and reasoning and wisdom from other incarnations, to examine the material, then you will only be 'testing the waters', which is also a good thing to do.
Being in Singapore should not stop you from getting access to the books Michael Horn and Figu USA have for sale in English, and there is so much in English on the internet now, that will keep you busy for many many years to come. You can get Wendelle Stevens first contact notes book for free on the web if you search -- and that helps to put the contacts into perspective.
It is nice to see you are interacting on the forum.
in peace
Robjna |
Phenix
Member
Post Number: 76
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 02:48 am: |
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Beste Empfehlung, Kameraden!
Zohan,
Thanks for your initiative.
I joined in; my URL is:http://profiles.friendster.com/85175234
May The Truth Be Known, indeed!
Salome |
Zohan
Member
Post Number: 11
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 06:45 am: |
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Hi Phenix,
Send me an invite and enter my email zohan.universe@yahoo.com.sg i don't know anything about you so i won't be able to invite you.
Hi Robjna,
Thank you very much for the words of wisdom. I truly appreciate it. You know how hard it is to not have someone to understand you. You are very there are so much materials out there and it just keep on coming without even searching.
SAALOME,
ZOHAN |
Phenix
Member
Post Number: 84
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 08:15 am: |
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Hi Zohan,
I am on my way to that other site; thanks.
Salome. |
Phenix
Member
Post Number: 86
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 08:26 am: |
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Phenix,
This post is very long, and in part is a repeat of Dyson's translation which is already posted. Please use links whenever possible to save space on the server.
Thank you
Scott
Gruss, Kameraden,
So i said, so i did.
(Reference: post 83, section 'Translations'.)
Source: Project Avalon Forum.
An Urgent Call to All Mankind
Dear Friends,
This is a message i just received from a source i fully trust.
It is up to each of us to believe it or not, to make his/her own choice; but please do read the following with critical and open mind - the original German Text is on my own page:http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/member.php?u=1192
(Further information and clarification could also be found at the following links:
-'Contact Report 251',
at: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Bil...t_Report_251
-Contact Report 229: 'Predictions of The Prophet Jeremia',
at: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Bil...t_Report_229
-'Warning to all The Governments of Europe: Meier Prophecies 1958',
at: http://www.theyfly.com/lost/meier.prophecies.1958.htm
-'The Henoch Prophecies' and 'What The Plejarens Wish For Earth Humans', at: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Bil...act_Report_215,
among other Works of Herr Meier.)
Peace and Wisdom.
RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk
Discussionboard of FIGU: The Mission: Translations
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Posted by Gaiaguysnet on Sunday, October 12, 2008 - 04:51 pm:
Dear All,
Below are the new 2008 Meier Predictions translated from Special
Bulletin #45, October 2008.
They are a chilling update of his 1951, 1958 and 1964 prophesies*,
which – due to Earth humans’ collective suicidal stupidity - have now
become grim predictions set in stone. They deal this time more
specifically with our self-generated climatic catastrophe and
environmental destruction, and I reiterate, these are not prophesies,
but predictions, so this is now our own forged fate.
As Billy now writes, “The time of transition has expired, in which the
monster - which was predicted for the future of the entire terrestrial
humanity, and for the Earth and its nature - would still have been
stoppable.”
Some Natural Laws are easier to understand than others.
One of the most obvious is: if we are going to breed like flies, we
are going to die like flies.
Salome,
Dyson (& Vivienne)
*See gaiaguys’ archived Meier webpage @ www.futureofmankind.co.uk
The below is an authorised unofficial translation of FIGU material by
Vivienne Legg and Dyson Devine, completed in October 2008. It may
contain errors.
Source: www.figu.org/ch/book/export/html/2038
EINE VORAUSSAGE
A PREDICTION
What the future brings for the Earth humans in regard to the climatic
catastrophe and environmental destruction
All you humans of the Earth, you are responsible for your wellbeing
and woes, for your Earth’s climate, for your planet, and therefore you
are responsible for your own life as well as for that of all
creatures, for fauna and flora, for all of nature and everything which
grows, creeps and flies.
You are responsible as individuals, just as you are responsible as the
entire mass of humanity, for everything; responsible also for all that
you ever bring forth in the form of thoughts and feelings and what you
affect through your actions.
Your authorities and governments are standing at the very front along
with you humans comprised of all peoples who are responsible for
everything which ever occurs on the Earth in your existence; and to
you all – you individual humans of the Earth and you responsible ones
of the authorities and governments – the following words of warning
should be announced: already in 1951, 1958 and 1964 and also at other
times, authorities, governments, newspapers, organisations and radio
stations had their attention drawn worldwide, through my prophecies
and predictions, to what unpleasant things will come about in the
future on the Earth and among you humans.
At that time there was still time to be able to change, in part, the
announced threatening things while other parts, however, had to occur
unalterably, because they could no longer be changed.
In addition to that and to all that which was predicted and
prophesied, the following should now be explained: the first eight
years of the 21st Century have now passed, during which the prophecies
and predictions of the 1950s, as well as of the 1960s, have been
fulfilled as they have in all the decades since, and indeed, up to the
current time.
Nevertheless, in spite of the fulfillment of my prophecies and
predictions, my warnings were given no heed, consequently, all over
the Earth, the announced evil increasingly took the upper hand and now
still continues to climb.
There are actually only very few humans who took my earlier prophetic
and predictive warnings seriously and who also take them seriously
today, indeed the majority of you Earth humans has not concerned
itself about it and today also does not care about it, rather it
further tramples the truth under foot.
So you do not want to know or understand that you yourself carry the
blame for all evils and all catastrophes which occur in your society
and on your planet.
Indeed there have always been earthquakes, sea quakes, avalanches,
floods, storms, droughts, volcanic eruptions and other natural
catastrophes on the Earth because nature has always operated in this
way since the very beginning of time, yet it is your own fault that
now all these evils have increased to such an enormous measure that
they are no longer to be stopped.
And the primary reason for all the evil which rolls over you humans -
such as criminality, epidemics, wars, hunger, inhumanity, and climatic
destruction, and so forth - lies in the enormous overpopulation which
you do not check through rigorous birth control measures, rather you
further irresponsibly raise it.
And this mass of overpopulation is to blame for all emerging evils and
catastrophes of all kinds, whereby also all evils, injustice,
upheavals and all harm increases incessantly in relation to the
increasing mass of humanity.
So, for you Earth humans, the future brings yet many further
disagreeable circumstances, strokes of fate as well as misery, need,
disadvantage, shocks and disasters which spread out in various things
and monstrous catastrophes, because from now on, this planet’s nature
strikes back with still greater rage than it ever has before at the
insanity of your overpopulation and the connected destruction of the
climate, of nature and many kinds of lives.
Already the time has come that, in many places, your planet’s nature
forces you to flee; this having malignantly intensified in recent
decades as a result of the destruction of the environment due to your
influence, and therefore it is your fault.
Already, today, entire peoples are fleeing from the consequences of
the destroyed environment and climatic catastrophe which is still
always trivialised or even completely disputed by irresponsible
scientists and know-it-alls.
And there are many humans, and even entire peoples, fleeing from the
dangerous effects relating to industrial accidents.
Groups of humans and entire peoples also flee from the spreading
desert areas, from the climbing sea levels, the destruction of fields
and farmland and of mountains as a result of fun parks and sporting
facilities of all kinds, but also because the air necessary for life
is pregnant with poisonous exhaust fumes so that it is damaging to the
health.
Hunger also drives humans away, often because of the increasing
infertility of the ground which, because of desolation, can no longer
be farmed for the production of foods.
Often, however, as a result of the irresponsible help from aid
organisations from industrial countries, diverse peoples of Third
World countries are flooded with provisions, consequently no more
farming of foods is carried out by those receiving these foods or, if
they do still grow their own foods, they can no longer sell their
products because their own production is far more expensive than the
foods which are brought in by aid organisations from industrial
countries.
It is not only the climbing sea level, as a consequence of the melting
poles and glaciers, which again and again drives entire groups of
humans and even entire peoples to seek refuge – especially those who
live on the oceans’ islands which are increasingly, and ultimately
completely, flooded by the climbing water – but it is likewise also
the increasing demolition of the oceans’ shores, and the loss of
ground.
The mass of humans which flees as a consequence of all the evil and
catastrophes caused by climatic and industrial factors – who are truly
environmental refugees and must also be so named – climbs to over 35
million in the next few years.
Yet the calculation applies only for the next few years because
through the incessant population increase, which must be called
criminal, the number further climbs so that in only 45 to 50 more
years the Earth, all countries and humanity, will be confronted with
200 million environmental refugees.
Along with that are still very many refugees who will be persecuted on
political, racist, religious or social grounds, and so forth, and who
will also increase to a number of around 30 million in the next few
years.
In relation to the insanity of the climbing overpopulation, the
effects of environmental pollution take on forms which become
constantly worse and more devastating as well as more catastrophic.
The reserves of drinking water become ever more poisoned – as for
example, in Asia through arsenic, from which, every year, many
thousands of humans already die – while in other countries the
drinking water is always in shorter supply and is ultimately
exhausted.
In other locations the living space for many humans is endangered and
destroyed because the rainforests are being felled, and, from that,
devastating climatic changes and uninhabitable areas result, as
through desertification, respectively, the advancing of deserts, right
up to the areas inhabited by humans.
Also, more and more, the waters are being fished out, animal species
are being made extinct or the living space is taken from very many
animals as, also, much fertile ground and farming land, and meadows
and fields, are being concreted over and thereby nature is destroyed
as is especially the case in the mountains as a result of hotels,
holiday facilities, cable cars, ski slopes as well as military
practice firing ranges; all that, along with the irresponsible
building over of mountainsides as well as sea shores and river banks
for human habitation and recuperation centres, and so forth.
The atmosphere is poisoned with CO2 from exhaust fumes, principally as
a result of too many cars which are used by all those who do not use
any public transport for travel, commuting and shopping, as well as
for nonsensical pleasure trips, or who could easily go on foot.
Still to mention are all the heaters and the industrial facilities
which are powered with fossil fuels and, hourly - in spite of filters,
which are inadequate - hurl tonnes of filth, dust particles and
poisonous substances of all kind into the air.
And that which flies out into the air as filth and poison also settles
down again on the ground, in the soil as well as in the water, whereby
the entire world of plants and animals – including the human – is
contaminated by it, as are also the vegetables and fruits which are
already contaminated anyway by poisonous sprays and fertilisers in
order to increase the yield and profit.
All the world’s continents are affected by the destruction of nature
and the environment as well as by the climatic catastrophe and the
exploitation of the Earth’s resources, yet that is only the beginning
of the coming great evil, the ongoing catastrophe and terror, which
still stands before you humans of the Earth.
Truly everything becomes still much worse and indeed in every
imaginable relationship, whereby, worldwide, the streams of fleeing
environmental refugees ultimately degenerate and evoke ethnic
collisions, as already occur in the industrial countries.
And that is actually already the case even if there is still not a
will to see it: already there exists more or less damage-bringing,
undignified, racist, human-disdaining and religiously insulting
behaviours from local inhabitants in nearly all countries of the Earth
toward refugees and migrants of all kinds from foreign countries,
whereby, however, the greatest evil in relation to this occurs in the
rich industrial countries.
And for a considerable time it has already reached the point where
also freedom of belief is attacked and the faithful are restricted in
their rights to freedom, whereby also the principal religions,
respectively, their representatives of all kinds, interfere.
The believers are thus denied their own meeting places and their
peculiarities just as they are denied the wearing of certain pieces of
clothing and faith-based symbols and amulets, and so forth, whereby,
especially, in this regard, very many followers of Christianity
exercise terror and insult the faithful as well as the symbols of the
faiths of other groups and peoples.
And it is usual, quite especially in Christianity, to abuse groups
which have any religious beliefs which they want nothing to do with,
by calling them sects.
Overpopulation: a term which all those stupid and idiotic ones among
you Earth humans do not want to admit as being valid in regard to the
world being overrun by humans and how they can no longer be nourished
and borne by it.
Stupid and idiotic ones with academic titles, popular scientists,
newspaper men and know-it-alls of all kind do not want to admit to the
truth and even claim that the entire economy, and life with it, will
collapse if fewer humans are born and humanity is reduced by means of
a rigorous and rationally-steered birth stoppage.
But also many among you; you Earth humans; you who are simple citizens
without academic title, and so forth, and who are in support of the
further breeding up of Earth humanity; you are also no better and
delude yourselves that a federally regulated birth stoppage will
restrict you in your freedom.
Yet your freedom will truly not be restricted if your intelligence and
reason is appealed to so that you only still produce descendents in an
amount such that the overpopulation is reduced and thereby life is
preserved in all the environs of the Earth, which is not possible due
to the mass of overpopulation because through this, slowly but surely,
all life, nature and the climate will be irretrievably destroyed.
How stupid and silly should you be, you, among Earth Humans, who - devoided of all reason and understanding - do not recognise the Truth and continue to carry on in the same way with your rabbit-like
breeding up of your descendents!
And how stupid and dimwitted are all you who carry academic titles,
who are scientists or simply know-it-alls and who, in cowardly angst
about your disappearing profit and image, put forward false claims and
lies and take humanity for fools in that you deny the truth in regard
to the worldwide catastrophic circumstances and events, are simply not
able to see it or appraise that which is evoked by the overpopulation.
Academic or other titles are just as little use in regard to the truth
as are all great words which are just as idiotic, stupid and dimwitted
as the demonstrably insane assertion that the Earth is a flat disc.
In 1951 I wrote: “ … World War II found its inglorious end, which
lasted from 1939 to 1945 and cost the lives of approximately 62
million people.
Atomic energy itself was implemented for the murder of hundreds of
thousands of people and for the destruction of their cities - through
the irresponsible and criminal action of the USA, when the Japanese
cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were destroyed through atomic bombs.
All that would, unfortunately however, not be the end of all terrors,
mass-murder, wars and acts of terror, if the peoples of all nations do
not finally become clever enough to relieve their power-greedy
government bosses of their offices and have them turn tail and run.
Basically, it is the people in each country who choose those who
govern - normally, unfortunately, it is the insincere ones, who first
make great promises, in order then, when they come into power, to let
war and terror break out and drive the people under their command with
lies and deceit, whereby they become dependant on their superiors and
misjudge the real truth.
That however, will bring evil consequences in the future if the people
don't intervene against them - because world-wide, the executive
powers will embroil the people ever more in wars, terror and hate,
until the whole thing assumes uncontrollable forms world-wide.”
Now, what I openly pronounced at that time has since then come true
many times over, and already for a long time the threatened monstrous
things have developed to a worldwide conflagration and open fire.
The time of transition has expired, in which the monster - which was
predicted for the future of the entire terrestrial humanity, and for
the Earth and its nature - would still have been stoppable.
No decisive countermeasures can change everything for the better
anymore, rather everything can only be palliated over a long time.
A change for the better and for the best namely requires a very long
time which must be calculated in centuries.
To that end, however, it is necessary that you, humans of the Earth -
as individuals and as peoples, as responsible ones of the governments,
authorities, sciences and military, as well as all others who are
responsible for the world, its security and for life - make a strong
effort to fight, and to stop, all evils and catastrophes which have
emerged as a result of your irrationally breeding-up overpopulation,
and go in a positive direction.
If you are not ready for that and do not do it then you evoke still
further terrors which will become an evil scourge of terrestrial
humanity.
So your future will be further burdened by wars, terror, destruction
and annihilation with deaths in the thousands, and millions of
murdered and dead people, as a result of natural catastrophes, because
your monstrously growing overpopulation allows no other possibility.
Humans of the Earth, you are to blame that all laws of nature are out
of order, so that all storms and natural catastrophes, hail storms,
snow storms and deluges, monstrous floods, and so forth, are now the
order of the day.
Through your overpopulation you have converted the riverside forests,
meadow plains, mountain sides and the shores of lakes, rivers and
oceans into land for housing.
Thereby the wild water of the deluges finds its way into your houses
and brings death to many of you.
You are to blame that, worldwide, the permafrost thaws and evokes
avalanches and landslides while earthquakes, sea quakes and volcanic
eruptions, as well as mighty storms, bring death, destruction and
ruin.
And everything further increases; the gales and typhoons, the
hurricanes and tornadoes, which become more and more powerful and
destructive.
And alone your overpopulation is to blame for everything because,
through it and through its monstrous, negative outgrowths, all evil
and all natural catastrophes, as well as all human catastrophes of
every kind, are evoked.
The unnatural climate change, further wars, crimes, illnesses,
epidemics and all the worldwide terrorism and fanatical religious
delusion, and so forth, are malignant consequences of overpopulation.
And all that has an extremely disadvantageous effect on your entire
terrestrial humanity.
The monstrous mass and weight of your cities, towns and villages
torments the inner structures of the Earth in increasingly worse
measure and presses the tectonic plates so that they shift which
releases earthquakes and sea quakes which demand hundreds of
thousands, and ultimately millions, of human lives.
All quakes, however, also have influences on all terrestrial
volcanism; on the volcanoes worldwide, which are often connected with
each other at great depths and are more and more frequently and more
and more destructively active.
That also demands many human lives, especially in those areas where
dwellings are built irrationally close to the volcanoes.
Yet that is not enough because through the irresponsible, growing
overpopulation many further, new, monstrous, as well as insoluble,
problems emerge, also in relation to famines, which just increase more
and more as the overpopulation grows.
Old illnesses and those believed to have been exterminated return,
together with new illnesses and epidemics to which many humans will
fall victim.
Through mass tourism the stream of economic refugees from all over the
world also grows because the inhabitants of the poor tourist countries
also want to have that which the tourists from the rich industrial
countries show them.
Consequently they flee their homeland and, as economic refugees, more
and more seek the life of luxury in the rich countries.
Also the problem of asylum seekers – together with the stream of those
fleeing as environmental refugees, and the stream of those who are
persecuted – increases ever more to the point of insolubility.
It has come about, as was predicted in 1951, that the end of the 1980s
would see the collapse of the economic boom and a worldwide, monstrous
outbreak of unemployment, never experienced before, whereby
criminality, at the hands of the unemployed, the drug-dependent and
the work-shy people, climbed just as did criminality at the hands of
criminals who do not even shy away from murder when they pursue their
misdeeds and crimes.
Also national debt climbed beyond measure in diverse countries, as did
terrorist machinations.
Prostitution took on unbelievable forms of social acceptability and
became so carried out into the public that today children are not even
spared from it.
Prostitution became an “honourable“ profession, which became
officially recognised by the authorities and also became taxable.
In every family television became just as much a part of everyday life
as did the technology of the computer.
And both the television and the computer became the most important
information media, as they also became the significant forms of public
advertising of prostitution.
You, humans of the Earth; very many of you became cold in your
thoughts and feelings in the course of the last 60 years, whereby
today your interpersonal relationships bring to light ever stranger
effects because everything is still always only function-orientated –
even your relationship to your neighbour.
True love has become a rarity with you, and you no longer join in
marriage because of affection for each other, but only just in order
to make a profit, to maintain your image and to be able to indulge in
a certain status which is dealt with by means of reputation and money.
These marriages, so entered into, do not endure, consequently more and
more families are destroyed and even the children are sexually abused
while others become asocial and neglected because their parents do not
concern themselves about them.
Many among you humans of the Earth lead a life that is often only
orientated towards drugs, addiction, vices and pleasures and is
distinguished by destruction as well as disharmony.
Often your psyches are thereby impaired and your whole behaviour has
negatively deteriorated.
You humans of the Earth; you yourselves are the initiators of all evil
and catastrophes which are rampant on your world, whereby you have
created the real cause in that you have driven your overpopulation
into ever higher numbers and drive it higher still.
Therefore you yourselves are responsible for everything and thereby
you are, in your own person, also God, and as such you yourself
determine your monstrous problems and outgrowths; you who in your
megalomania believe yourself to be the highest and mightiest being in
the universe; far higher than Creation - from which everything has
come forth - can ever be.
Through your fault, through your overpopulation, through your
megalomania, through your irrationality and tyranny you provoke all
the powers of nature, which, together with the Earth, rebel and defend
themselves against your degenerated machinations.
Therefore, on the Earth the forces of nature overflow, together with
the Earth itself, because you, Earth human, have disturbed and
destroyed the entire natural course of the elements and of life.
I have all that to say today; the truth, as it actually is.
Now grasp all courage, you humans of the Earth, to contemplate that
which is revealed, to draw the correct conclusions from it and to act
correctly from now on.
Yet there is very little time to avoid the greatest of all
catastrophes, yet you will have to use this time because it runs
through your fingers.
Consider this truth and act in the understanding of what is right so
that you carry out a change for the better.
Make everything public that you have come to know through the given
words, teach it to all humans of the Earth, teach it in all your
media, in order to obtain an alteration and change in a positive
sense.
Only when you act rationally, just as you have been told, do you keep
yourself from yet greater injustice, from yet greater evils, from
further degenerations, many new deaths and destruction and from the
step into ultimate annihilation.
All you, humans of the Earth, who feel addressed by these words of
truth, you have a good opportunity – as was already given to you in
1951, 1958 and 1964 – to responsibly use your power and to preserve
the Earth and all of humanity from all that which is also now revealed
to you with new words.
Do not delay, rather act, and indeed quickly, because time is
pressing.
Act immediately, in order to prevent even worse things than those
which have already occurred and which currently occur.
Act without delaying because otherwise you will be just as responsible
for when the future brings still very much worse things for the Earth
and your humanity than have already been evoked and become reality
through your fault.
Semjase-Silver-Star-Center, 20. Juli 2008, 19.14 Uhr
Semjase-Silver-Star-Center, July 20th, 2008, 7:14PM
Billy
watchZEITGEISTnow
Project Avalon Member
Default Re: An urgent call to mankind
Billy never resonated very highly with me personally. No offence.
Beside the (and I'm guessing here) Pleiadians telling us in this message we are undeniably, inevertably, beyond any doubt, up the creek without a paddle (or even a creek by the sounds of this message) - WHAT THE HELL IS THE POINT?
I don't believe the Pleiadians are this way inclined. My proof? none. My reason? So you tell me Bill, these bringers of love and light, spiritually developed waaaaay beyond our futile years of existence, experiences in things we can only dream about... come here... to you... and you alone... just to tell us this? No. I don't believe it. I think you may believe it, that is your choice. I don't believe it. And to put this message out on the rather strategic (if not marketing genius) date, be it "the unofficial date gone cyber viral 14th ye holy month of October 2008 GFL TOUCHDOWN!
Micheal Horn should be ashamed of himself.
Now... the real story of the day... have 'they' arrived yet? :P
RaKaR
Project Avalon Member
Namaste, Member watchZEITGEISTnow,
Your are certainly entitled to your own taste and opinion, but please, do take into consideration that i, Member RakaR, am solely responsible for this post - neither Mr Horn, nor Mr Billy have nothing whatsoever to do with my initiative.
Besides, there is actually nothing new here - this information is from 1951, 1958, 1964; it was published for the very first time in 1951 and has been since then freely accessible to the Public - apart from the fact that, what back then was a Prophecy, is now about to become a Prediction.
Plejarens had more to tell us, they told us more and they still do - Mr Meier provides us with a huge material, going from Life on other Planets, in other Galaxies and Dimensions, to The Origin of Existence, Ancient Human History; from Astronomy and Physics to Social Sciences...
The Plejarens do tell us that they are neither Gods nor Engels, but just other Members of the Great Human Family.
They also constantly remind us that we, Earth Humans, have enormous Potential, that our Spirit is infinite and connects us to the First Source.
They share with us their Spiritual Teachings, including an Universal Peace Meditation, whereby other Humans from other places in the vastness of Space, join their Spititual Forces with us.
I think that it would be useful and more productive to focus our sharp and critical mind on the information itself, on its accuracy and importance as we move forward.
Regards,
RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk
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