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Behzad
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Post Number: 32
Registered: 04-2008
Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you Dave ,

Rarena - Scott, I got a little confused , at first time somebody made a video, and that picture used on it?!, again is it real? or not?

sorry to ask
Salome Friends
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Rarena
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Post Number: 330
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 08:36 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The event supposedly happened... whether that is an actual photo of the event I don't know... because the Plejaren do not allow photographs then it was my inference it would not be prudent to plaster them all over the internet if it is indeed an actual photo...

Perhaps it was allowed because the face shield protects the visitor from this, as yet, unknown security risk.
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Jamesm
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Post Number: 89
Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Behzad,

Regarding the photo you mentioned at http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Image:Billy_and_a_Plejaren_person.jpg: Thats an interesting photo I think.

The person on the right looks male but unlike Billy to me so it could be a Plejaren. The Plejaren looks almost as if he is smiling...I would be too if I was walking on another planet, wouldn't you? :-)
James G. T. Moore
Webmaster www.futureofmankind.co.uk
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Marksmanr
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Post Number: 28
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 - 01:10 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

James, I think that is Ptaah on the right.
Reece Stiller
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Behzad
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Post Number: 37
Registered: 04-2008
Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 - 07:42 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks James ,

Indeed I would too ;)

But I wanted to know if we have any confirmation from Billy about this Photo? any body know what Billy exactly has said about that?
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Jpm
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Post Number: 48
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I really enjoyed reading this...

about the plejaren and some other races

http://www.semjase.net/semjeng12.html

in my opinion this is the best billy meier site

despite it's unknown credibility.
"if central truth was a reality at lowly levels of the human-psyche, evolution would not be possible." - JPM
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Scott
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Post Number: 1516
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Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

JPM,

You may have enjoyed reading information from that website, but there are errors and information that has since been updated...

Scott
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Sitkaa
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Post Number: 16
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Monday, September 08, 2008 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don't know where else to post this question, so here it is.

Where could I find a thorough explanation of Plejaren sexual difference (not as in copulation, but rather as in battle of the)?

I have read that each male has several mates. From a biological perspective, I am curious how this works out. Does this mean that the Plejarans are a different species (in the genetic sense) from Earthlings? Or is this sexual differentiation man-made (Plejaran-made?).

Usually among species where the ratio of one sex to another is some multiple, usually you will find a rather stratified society. Is this the case with Plejarans? If so, how do they justify the inequities from a spiritual perspective?

Thanks,
m
Love is always the way
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Rarena
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Post Number: 337
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Posted on Monday, September 08, 2008 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi m,

Somewhere, maybe it was the OM... I read after having it pointed out by my late friend Wolfgang Froese... living with one woman causes some problems... living with two allows the predisposition they might gang up on you... and three, the possiblity of two females ganging up on the other lone female can occur but four females to one male has a balancing effect.

Each person in the family has their own spherical home and a certain amount of land and in the example of Quetzel on his planet... Erra... he spends time with each of them each week, but goes home and lives alone when he's not visiting.

Living with four women, myself... I can vouch for this balance Billy speaks of... My wife, her mother, and my two daughters... who act each in their own way... as sort of branch wives... eh eh...

The Plejaren are human beings, like ourselves... only very much more highly evolved... both physicaly and consciously, coarse matter and fine matter... consciousness and or spiritual energies are far more greatly employed...

Whether the increase of consciousness denotes a different species or not I do not know...

Salome,
Rarena τΏτ
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Aletha
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 07-2008
Posted on Tuesday, September 09, 2008 - 01:12 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Rarena,

I hope you don't take offence to me disagreeing with your opinion.

You seem to indicate that women are generally at a lower spiritually evolved level than men.

I'm not saying that every human is equal in a spiritual sense, it's just that to my current understanding, every human evolves/grows mentally or spiritually at different rates.

Your scenario sounds very controlling. Where is the human free will?
Women are not cattle, but are growing spiritually, incarnation after incarnation, just like men.

I may be a man in my next incarnation just like how you may become a woman in your next incarnation.... you never know what our spirit or Gamut would want to learn further!

Besides, didn't Quetzal (or Billy or Ptaah or Semjase... I don't remember who) say that there are also many plejaren men who prefer being single, and there are also many plejaren men who prefer having just one wife. There are also many plejaren women who are more comfortable in marriage with a number of other wives just as there are many plejaren women who prefer to be single (like Semjase), and many plejaren women who prefer being in a monogamous marriage..... in other words, every plejaren man & every plejaren woman is different and exercise their free will just like how every earth man and & earth woman exercise their free will.

The bottom line here is that communication is essential in a family/marriage setting.... and I don't mean the verbal kind, I mean the psychic/fluidal forces/sixth sense kind.... the kind of communication done subconsciously whether we know it or not. kids pick up on it, animals pick up on it and certainly us humans pick up on what the other human is "vibing".

I guess this is why billy Meier says that meditation and concentration as well as watching your thoughts are extremely important!

Sorry to rant on here guys, but this pologamy stuff had always captured my interest.... and I'm a woman! LOL!

I personally see polygamy working out, but only if the husband and wives are highly spiritually evolved as well as great in wisdom and have emotional control. To me this applies in equal standing to the wives as well as the husband.

Too often I read the posts on this forum from men who say that a polygamous marriage is indicative to having "control" of your women, mainly through physcial, mental and emotional means.
However, I've read a number of the contact notes and bulletins that show how Quetzal & Ptaah don't seem to impose ANY sort of control OVER their wives, physically, mentally, emotionally or spiritually!

Again, I'm sorry for ranting on! I will definately stop now. I guess I can't help it... I am a woman after all!

More comments about this are more than welcome!

Blessings,

Maxine
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Scott
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Post Number: 1518
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Posted on Tuesday, September 09, 2008 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Aletha,

While not trying to stray off topic here, I would have to say the following regarding polygamy. Of course the Plejarens are more spiritually evolved than most current earth humans, but also possibly they are more natural. Polygamy used to be practiced on earth much more than it is currently. But with the invention of various religious and social mores, these practices have been outlawed. Certain Muslim countries still allow this practice as well as various regions in Africa also support polygamy. The practice of multiple wives was natures way of insuring the continuation of the species. Which I think is also supported in the sense that generally there are more woman then men within a given population.

Regards
Scott
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Rarena
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Post Number: 338
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Posted on Tuesday, September 09, 2008 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Maxine,

No offense taken.

It is my understanding the Plejaren consider themselves equal as to the sexes... which is a good lesson for those here on Earth...
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Adysor
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Post Number: 99
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Tuesday, September 09, 2008 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Aletha,

I think you are certainly correct.

"Where is the human free will?
Women are not cattle, but are growing spiritually, incarnation after incarnation, just like men."

I think what Rarena was trying to say is that polygamy is practiced by the Plejaren but certainly not enforced or the only option to live...men can live singles or with one woman if he likes. He can also have four wives as long as the 4 women don't fight each other and curse each other for the same man....but it is only possible if the women accept this polygamy....

And in Islam nations it is still practiced...but I asked an Arab friend of mine how is it with polygamy....and he said....having more than one wife is nice but only if you have money to take care of them :D

So it's a question of does that person want polygamy because he thinks he can sustain those women and the children or just have one wife and be happy with her :D
Adrian.
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Aletha
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Post Number: 11
Registered: 07-2008
Posted on Tuesday, September 09, 2008 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's interesting Scott,

So before religion came into force, polygamy was the norm. Interesting.

Rarena, I didn't know that the Plejaren believe in equal rights. The Plejaren culture is so fascinating!

I would love to know which other galactic cultures are members of this "galactic federation" (sorry to go a little off topic here... my mind is full of questions and wonders!)

Love & Blessings to All,

Maxine
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Scott
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Post Number: 1519
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Posted on Tuesday, September 09, 2008 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Maxine,

I didn't say polygamy was the "norm" before religion (Christianity), but certain institutions have made it more difficult to practice in these current times. If you want to continue reading on this subject, I would suggest doing a search on this forum because this issue has been talked about for years.

Regards
Scott
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Aletha
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Post Number: 12
Registered: 07-2008
Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2008 - 02:04 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My apologies Scott,

I misunderstood your comments.

I will do a search through this forum. Thanks!

Blessings,

Maxine
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Edward
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Post Number: 1181
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 02:30 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Scott and All...


Very excellent summoned up, Scott!

I have known some Muslim friends in the past whom had more than one wife!

2 or 3 wives. Which was of course...something that is even not permitted in
the country, I live in. Just as many other Western countries.

So, I was always wondering WHY....there were so many women in his/their
homes, and I know it now, after asking.


And there were indeed, BEFORE any type of Dogmatic (Cult) Religion, Already
tribes on Earth whom practiced Polygamy; many Indian tribes, as well as Asian
tribes did, and African....to name a few. [Plejarans even mentioned this of
early existence of man here, on Earth; but alas.... Religion came along!]

Just following their Natural Creational Intuition; and as Billy once said, in
the sense: that the Natural Libido of a man must not be inhibited. That is
why, he is the Inseminator and should have the possibility to fulfill his
Natural Creational needs. [Even in sexual practice with 2 of his wives is
permitted; the women must focus on him, and not eachother.]

Creation will 'regulate' this processing through all Spirit-forms, in their
variation of being processed as male as well as female, in their Material
lives/existence. [So that NO Jealousy will be generated, but: only Equilibrium
of the sexes.]

Christianity, with their Megalomaniac Overbearing (Distorted) Cult Religion
Non Sense: made sure that this CREATIONAL Natural Way Of Life....was banned
from their societies, alas to say!


Edward.
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Sitkaa
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Post Number: 17
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Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I enjoy reading this discussion, but it seems to be earthling-centric, instead of pleaidian-centric. Anyway, the question is this: are approximately equal numbers of plejaren men and women born, or do an inequal number of men to women get borne? If there are approximately equal numbers of each sex (or even slightly skewed towards the feminine version, as on earth), then do most men simply choose to live alone? Do they compete for women?

I mean, how does this work? The sex game has enormous bearing upon how societies of any species are set up.
Love is always the way
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Edward
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Post Number: 1188
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Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Sitkaa.....


I see your question has not ben giving an answer.

Well, first of all, the - Blocked - strings can still be accessed and read;
so, best for you to do some reading on the concerning, on those strings;
certain aspects to your question has ben mentioned.

Second - Read further Guido's - And Yet...They Fly - (purchase it, if you have
not yet done so: very relevant and book of value!) and read regarding
'Marriage' and related.


Pleasant Studying....


Edward.
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Earthling
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Post Number: 78
Registered: 05-2008
Posted on Friday, November 07, 2008 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone know anything of the Plejarens diet? Do they eat animals?
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 370
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Posted on Friday, November 07, 2008 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Hello Earthling,

The Plejarens are mostly Vegetarians. Because of the complete lack of Pollution where their Food is grown, the Fruits and Vegetables have a high Value of Nutrient Density. Most Families on Erra also do have their own Gardens. However, the eating of Meat is not Forbidden among Them.

Salome
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Awaken to Your true Essential Being
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Hector
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Post Number: 441
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Posted on Friday, November 07, 2008 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Earthling no the plejaren do not need to slaughter animals to obtain a balanced diet. You know genetic engineering can be used to introduce criminal agressive genes into human beings and it can also be used for growing animal tissues and proteins in high tech farms. You can use genetic engineering for good o bad purposes, it depends on each civilization's ethics and spiritual level. The plejaren use it for good purposes only, like producing artificial animal flesh/proteins in laboratories or farms. They can grow animal organs, in the process there is no animal spirit present so you don't harm any creature.

They consider slaughtering animals for human consumption, like we do here on Earth, a very primitive, rude and barbaric behaviour. But seems this is part of evolution, and in a few centuries we will be able to copy their food producing methods. Such prediction is written somewhere in contact 251.

Regards,
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 371
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Posted on Friday, November 07, 2008 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Hello All,

While considering the Question Posted by Earthling, my Thoughts spiraled off into Speculation:

I wonder if the Plejarens would accept a Colony from Earth to live on Erra? This is not so far-fetched.

Consider, Men and Women in equal numbers, selected on a basis of Intelligence, of High Moral Character, from EVERY 'walk-of-Life, Volunteers.

A Colony established as a Diplomatic Exchange. A Colony for Educational Exchange, more for the Education of Earth, where the Future Leaders of Earth would grow in Knowledge of Truth. A University Colony, as it were. Every four or five years, some number return to Earth, and are replaced with new Volunteers for Exchange. Within a few Years, there would be a Cadre of Capable People on Earth able to provide true Direction for Humanity on the Evolution of Governance.

Such a Colony would have to be established in a Land Area to provide some Isolation, so as not to Disturb the Spiritual Equilibrium of the Plejaren Inhabitants of Erra. More than likely, too, is that all Those involved in such an Exchange Program would have to re-locate once back on Earth, and keep Silence of their Involvement and Experiences.

Well, of course, there is the NEED for the Plejarens to be OPEN to this Idea. How to Begin?

Salome
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From One Eternal Spiritual Being to All Others,
Awaken to Your true Essential Being
J_rod7

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