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Phenix
Member
Post Number: 44
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Monday, September 22, 2008 - 03:08 am: | 
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Jamesm,
I won't be involved in any kind of discussions about the Materials of 'Futureofmankind' auf 'Project Avalon'; for it is up to everyone to freely draw their own conclusions and, besides, i also just began to learn - this would eventually be my answer.
The link would just appear next to my username(RaKaR), whenever i place a post on that Forum.
I would only, if asked, help to navigate and find certain items/topics on your site, for i am meanwhile quite familiar with 'Futureofmankind'.
Salome. |
Phenix
Member
Post Number: 45
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Monday, September 22, 2008 - 01:53 am: |
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Ich empfehle mich Ihnen,
J-rod7,
Danke schoen für die Ermutigung; ich werde hart arbeiten und weiter lernen.
Jamesm,
I truly appreciate.
Salome. |
Zohan
Member
Post Number: 5
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 02:25 am: |
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Hi to All,
It's always a pleasure to help in spreading the word of truth for the mission.
I do agree with Phenix about not being involved in direct discussion about. He is right everyone has the right to come about thier own conclusion. As i have said before in another forum page the truth could only be heard by people who have an open mind. "As Jmmanuel always says... Those who have ears let them hear"
For us who have already accepted the cognition of thruth. I have created an account in a website that could help people like us to have a small group that could expand the avalance of truth. In there we could see our friends and comrades for the mission, we could also see how much people we have reached. I do believe that this will help a lot.
And we could also do our own discussion on how we can spread the TRUTH. If any of you are interested click this link http://profiles.friendster.com/84279952 to see my profile. You have to create a profile of your own and send me an invitation so we can link, from there you will know what to do. As i have said before the truth could only be heard by people who have an open mind. "As Jmmanuel always says... Those who have ears let them hear"
SAALOME
ZOHAN |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 1200
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 07:07 am: |
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Hi Zohan....
Very True!
"An Open Mind, is One with Open Eyes."
And of course, every individual has their own Free Will and Self Determination
to decide, WHAT is True/Truth, for him/her-self. And this we should Respect
and always take into account. And Corrections, would only be in its place, I
would say. Which would be Constructive and Beneficial for Both sides/
individuals, or whom it may concern.
Very interesting option, you have there. Very positive...and a practical
manner to share details, concerning The Mission, and all related.
Interesting manner to share One's thoughts.....
Edward. |
Zohan
Member
Post Number: 7
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 08:58 pm: |
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Thanks for the flowers Edward.
I forgot to edit my post it's repeating, but repetion in one hand is a good way to make a point.... 
Zohan |
Zohan
Member
Post Number: 8
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 09:26 pm: |
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Hi All,
I have not yet come into possesion of any book that billy has written (i'm remotely located in this small country called singapore), but i did have some references that you guys may want to consider.
If you read the TJ you will notice that everything is written in PARABLES and it is what i believe is the direct translation word for word (which is why we could not use any existing bible anymore). There is a Gospel of Thomas that has been discovered a few years back. i'll attached some important phrases for you to read it is very interesting.
But as we already know the people who have this writings are using greed to interpret the words. The good thing is they did not altered anything in their translations. The true meaning is still in it's original form. I have replaced Jesus as Jmmanuel (that is the only thing they have changed)
GOSPEL OF THOMAS – The Secret Sayings
1) And He said, "Whoever finds the interpretation of these sayings will not experience death."
2) Jmmanuel said, "Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the All."
3) Jmmanuel said, "If those who lead you say, 'See, the Kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the Kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living Father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."
8) And He said, "The Kingdom is like a wise fisherman who cast his net into the sea and drew it up from the sea full of small fish. Among them the wise fisherman found a fine large fish. He threw all the small fish back into the sea and chose the large fish without difficulty. Whoever has ears to hear, let him hear."
Saalome,
ZOHAN |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 1201
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 02:15 am: |
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Hi Zohan....
Yes, most of us whom are familiar with the TJ and the Teachings materials, are
well aware of what you are referring to.
There has indeed, throughout history been many Misinterpretations produced, by
those whom were not directly associated with Jmmanuel, and as result produce a
'distorted' version(s), of his Teachings.
Example would be, the number of names in the Bible...of so-called scribes,
which did not and were not, in any shape or form....an apostle of Jmmanuel;
bear in mind. Only, names were the same; some 150 years after Jmmanuel death,
if my memory serves me well: much of his Teachings were indeed Altered and
Distorted, by the mentioned(, with Similar Names). And from hereon: it all had
a domino effect....up till today, and so: Many Corrupted versions exist.
So, we/I can understand your purpose of exhibiting the Gospel Of Thomas, from
your mentioned book; which is still not from the Original Source, as taught by
Jmmanuel.
Edward. |
Zohan
Member
Post Number: 9
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Friday, October 10, 2008 - 07:17 pm: |
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Edward,
Thank you very much. Your thought is wise. I know what you mean. As long as it is not from billy's reference it is not the truth.
ZOHAN. |
Phenix
Member
Post Number: 111
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 01:53 am: |
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Kameraden,
It will soon be (the traditional) Christmas and New Year; a Period of gathering together, of Confirmation of Ties within Families, Circles of Friends and other Acquaintances, Work Environments, Study Groups, but also One of Exchanges of Good Wishes and Gifts.
It would then be a good and useful to the Mission Idea - if this Initiative has not yet been taken - to send the Works of Herr and other Figu Books to Family Members, Friends, Kameraden and Colleagues - for it is for many People a Time of new Beginnings and other personal Decisions, Resolutions and firm Intentions.
Books are quite common and popular Gifts and People do usually read Books they receive in such a Way, because of the emotional Value and Symbolism they attach to them - they would at least handle them with a certain Care and, every now and then, even read Something from them.
(it could be in the Languages the Recipients understand or simply in German, for One could then be motivated to learn the Language.)
Figu could eventually release/publish some 'Gift Versions' of their Books, although, as i far as i can judge, the Works of Herr Meier, in their current Form, are also suitable - they are beautiful and very impressive; i can state that with Certainty about 'Dekalog' and 'Omfalon Murado'(with a nice Drawing of a Symbol and the Print of a Thumb of Billy in it!).
So, Kameraden, let's make good Use of Christmas, New Year, Birthdays and other Occasions to give the Words of Love forward.
Salome. |
Kingman
Member
Post Number: 516
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 12:08 am: |
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Hi All,
For those who are Americans, I hope you had a chance to spend time with friends and family over this holiday period, and for those who live elsewhere, Salome.
I haven't responded to this latest barrage of Matthew Deagle controversy because I was away visiting family and I think a new formula for correspondence on 'Hot Topics' is possibly needed. Does this sound like I'm automatically inclined to disagree with Mr. MD? I'm not. I have found that he intermixes enough reality with his questionable material, that one needs to pick apart each piece to find the 'wheat'. This takes time. I personally don't always have such time available. I have no problem using my spare time to delve deep into Billy's materials(Spiritual Gold!), but using that time to end up with a bag of fools gold is disheartening(maybe that's the whole intent!).
Apparently I am under mind control so be careful not to take me to serious. While I obviously must be totally unaware of this I am fortunate enough to have a fellow forum member point this out for all to see. I guess I should be thankful, since I now know this, I too can see the Queen of England shape shift into a miniature T-rex. And my computer screen isn't even cracked.
I'm positive we need to update something here. I was informed awhile back in a private email that any conversation with Mr. MD entails much wasted time with near tangents, excessive excessiveness of meaningless trite, whimsically flavored verbiage, attempts at trying to sound absolute( and thus you are an idiot ), as well as long winded passages we could easily truncate out the fluff. These are done to tire the opposition to some extent.
I propose that in certain category's/topics of this forum, we apply a limit to the number of letters/numbers that can be posted. Anything long worded will be denied. Not for all topics of course.
I've heard the word consensus thrown around. The idea of consensus is already a condition of this forum to some extent. If your don't agree with this, then you probably should only post in the 'Skeptics Corner'. Lately we seem to be experiencing some unPLUR-like(Peace Love Unity Respect, note: it's now-Peace Love Ur Retarded) activities.
Shortening the amount of pile on anyone person can do in a post will allow more focus on the subject. Sure, some topics are complicated and take up much more space than others, but were dealing with knowledge that requires REAL clarity and in my opinion Mr. MD is not always on target and I respond to these certain posts out of concern to the Mission.
Ganging up on anyone is not consensus. Flooding a post with an avalanche of dubious info, is not superior to evidence with resources.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Phenix
Member
Post Number: 158
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 09:42 am: |
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Liebe Kameraden,
The last call of Herr Meier, 'Eine Voraussage'( A Prediction), which reached us thanks to, first the Kameraden Dyson and Vivienne(Post 778; Okt. 12/2008: http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/discus.cgi?pg=next&topic=12&page=9359), then through Mister Horn (http://theyfly.com/PDF/A_PREDICTION.pdf ) and what i felt and still feel thereby, that is a caring Sadness, a deep Concern and Urgency from Herr Meier, a venerable Teacher, a Comrade, a Friend, a Brother, a Father or Grandfather for some of us and just a Fellow Human Being, lead me to the following Conclusion and Statement of Intentions:
WE NEED TO PHYSICALLY SAVE OUR PLANET FROM OVERPOPULATION.
It is a PRIORITY; it must come before all other Things and Affairs.
But how?
Here is an Idea:
A/ Let' s create an Action Group, an Activist Cell.
This Group would be active at all Levels of our Societies and would operate independently from FIGU.
We shall, unless necessary, avoid any direct Reference to FIGU and that, in Order to have a clear Definition and Delimitation of the Task at Hand and by so doing, we would - not less important - also give no Chance to the Detractors and other 'Enemies' of Herr Meier and FIGU. We would not allow them to distract us.
[NOTE: some Kameraden might argue that such an Approach does not reflect the Spirit and Philosophy of FIGU.
It should be said that, sometimes, the End does indeed justify the Means, specially when the End is imperative and the Means morally acceptable.
Our noble Plejaren Friends do send every now and then some 'anonymous' Impulses...]
B/ We need a powerful Pamphlet on Overpopulation.
A short Paper, where the Issue and the Correlation Overpopulation-environmental Catastrophe are clearly defined and substantiated with Numbers, Data and scientific Information, would be ideal.
[NOTE: I have understood from Post 1895 of Herr Moderator Hans, following Post 3 of Kamerad Marcela at the German Forum(http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/de/show.cgi?17/2867 ), that Herr Christian Frehner is the one in Charge of this Forum; i shall see whether he could provide us with such a Tool.
Otherwise, the highly scientific, impressive and very convincing Chapter 'Überbevölkerungs-Bombe' from the Brochure ''Überbevölkerungs-Bombe, Erdezerstörung, Frauendiskriminerung" would do. And maybe the Team Dyson-Vivienne could help with the Translation. I could, if needed, take Care of the 'rough' Translation, which they - or other Kameraden - could then purify.
As soon as i have a good German Text ready, i would submit this Idea to the German Forum.]
C/ That Pamphlet-Chapter 'Überbevölkerungs-Bombe' must be translated into some mean Earth Languages and approved by FIGU: French, Spanish, Portuguese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, Swahili, Dutch...
[NOTE: i could do the Russian, French and Dutch Translations. I have a Kamerad who could provide us with Spanish, Portuguese, Italian and Romanian Translations. I could find someone for the Translation into Swahili - the first language in Africa together with Arabic.]
D/ We spread that Pamphlet Worldwide, making Use of all available Means(Emails, Posts...), grabbing any given Opportunity to bring about the Topic of Overpopulation.
[NOTE: a Week ago i handed over this Brochure 'Überbevölkerungs-Bombe' plus "Warning to all Governments of Europe 1958"(http://www.theyfly.com/lost/meier.prophecies.1958.htm : thanks once again, Mister Michael Horn) and "FIGU Sonder-Bulletin" of December (which contains a major Article on Overpopulation) to a prominent Member of the Board for Social Studies of the Dutch Socialist Party in Rotterdam - which Party i am a Member of.
That Official, himself a Teacher of Social Sciences, has a very open Mind and there is hence some reasonable Hope that those Documents would be rationally and objectively studied and applied.
I have access to the Website of the Team Obama(http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/pesurvpage1) to which i have already sent "Warning to all Governments of Europe 1958" and the Link to "Kelch der Wahrheit" and i also registered at CNNreporter(www.CNNreporter.com), where one has the Opportunity to submit News Ideas, Topics for eventual Reportages, Documentaries... to CNN.
I will be make full Use of those Opportunities and i would urge you, Kameraden, to do the same here or elsewhere - generally you only need to register.]
E/ ACTIVISM
Kameraden, let' s massively send that would-be Pamphlet to:
- Scientific Institutes, Think Thanks; to the Departments of Human Sciences of Universities, High Schools...
I shall submit it to my University.
- local, national, international Instances dealing with Population, Diseases, Environment, Food, Education... - Ministries in our respective Countries; regional intergovernmental Organizations; Humanitarian Organizations(independent or operating within the UN);
- TV, Radio Stations; Newspapers at their Websites, per Post...
- to 'left', socialist or green Political Parties and Movements( for Instance, Project Venus-Zeitgeist:http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/; the Democratic World Federalists: www.dwfed.org (Courtesy of Herr J_rod7)...)
[NOTE: 'Left', socialists Groups are preferable, for the Suggestion of Member Thiagoc in his Post 2 and further clearly showed to which Misunderstandings and deplorable Confusions any Association with the so-called 'right' Groups could lead.]
Other Possibilities:
- Are there Politicians, Athletes, Artists, Performers, Entertainers, public Figures... among us, who deal with the Media?
They should use any Interview to drop the Word 'Overpopulation' - be it in a controversial but useful Context and Way.
- Are there Teachers, Journalists, Webmasters, Post Workers, Bus Drivers, Nurses...?
They should use their Interactions and Contacts with Others to touch that Topic.
Kameraden,
This Plan is certainly no Recipe for Success; it might well be worth the Try.
And then again, who knows? Maybe the Information would resonate with a few and the Idea would gradually take Shape and grow.
REQUEST.
Kameraden,
Please, let me know what you think of this Proposal.
You may just send me a 'Salome Greeting' to my Email Address(aepsilonm@hotmail.com) to let me know that you are at least open to some further Discussion and/or Elaboration of this Idea - this is in order to avoid overloading the Forum unnecessary.
Your concrete, practical Suggestions, Insights, on the other hand, could be discussed at the Section 'Overpopulation' of the Forum.
Looking forward to your Neutral-Positive Vibrations at the Peace Meditation, tomorrow and Sunday.
Salome,
Adam. |
Phi_spiral
Member
Post Number: 367
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 05:28 pm: |
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Hello Adam
I share your concern about the future of our planet. And your sincerity is certainly not in question. But I am curious about one thing, though. What does the expression, "The Silent Revolution of Truth," actually mean to you? It is not a rhetorical question, I would very much like to hear your thoughts.
The Plejarens thought so highly of the expression that they brought the young Erran girl that came up with it to Earth to meet Billy. But Che Guevara would not have approved.
You are working yourself up in a frenzy, my friend, and you are getting out of balance. Slow and steady wins the race. Remember the tortoise and the hare.
Regards
Bob |
Phenix
Member
Post Number: 166
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 01:32 am: |
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Guten Tag, Kameraden,
Dear Bob,
I answer to your rather rhetorical Question out of Politeness and because you asked.
"The Silent Revolution of Truth" applied, in my View, to all the Work, the Teachings, the personal Mission, the cosmic Value and Extent of Herr Meier himself.
All this is deeper, bigger, wider than we, all of us put together, could barely comprehend.
It is certainly more than Overpopulation alone.
I would argue that from all the colossal Tasks of Herr Meier, Overpopulation is technically the most difficult to tackle for him, personally, for it is about what happens in the intimacy of People; it is highly emotional and irrational. That is on one Hand.
On the other Hand - and that is where the necessary Dialectics of the Complementary of Opposites comes into Play - of all the Knowledge, Directives and Commandments we, Earth Humans, receive from Herr Meier and the Tasks to fulfill to be again in Line with Creation, tackling Overpopulation is far off the easiest for us to realize and to apply.
All we need to do here is to refrain from doing a certain physical Act or to take pure technical, physical Precautions, while accomplishing that Act.
Compare it with:
- feeling pure, Genuine, endless Love for all and everything;
- Controlling your Thoughts and Desires;
- Understanding the Oneness of Consciousness and emanating therefrom your Unicity with all other People - including your impossible Neighbor!
- Rationally Understanding and Accepting the Idea of your own Death;
- To fathom Incarnation;
- Free yourself from Attachment to material Things and other Temptations of the same Kind;
- Master the needed Concentration to properly fulfill the Peace Meditation - only 20 Minutes!
..etc...
Furthermore, i would argue that the Title "The Silent Revolution of Truth" was thought of and adopted in a different Context and Change and Evolution are the Essence self of Creation Itself.
Thanks for your genuine Concern about me 'working myself up in a frency', but i can assure you that i have never been so lucid, so focused, so innerly calm and well- balanced as i am now.
And then again, as far as i remember, from 'Desiderata', for Instance, each of us has her/his own Speed.
Is mine too fast for you? - well, follow then your own!
There is no personal Race for me to win and i am neither the Tortoise nor the Hare.
I am a Student of the Spiritual Teachings of Herr Meier, who understood and tried to apply the Principle - regarding the specific, urgent Question of Overpopulation - that Action is as valuable as Theory.
I also know that i, that we, could do something about Overpopulation.
And frankly, instead of your Compliment and Judgement of the current State of my Innermost, i would have rather seen your critical and objective Reading of the Idea i submitted; which Reading i would have, in my Turn, critically and objectively studied and eventually agreed with.
Salome,
Adam. |
Phi_spiral
Member
Post Number: 368
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 02:42 pm: |
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Hello again, Adam
I am presently involved with two other group organizations; one dealing with raising public awareness to climate change, i.e. understanding its’ cause/effect; and the other is an environmental sustainability group related to healthy building and living practices and minimizing carbon footprints.
One of the main lessons instilled in me having worked in both groups over the years, is that you can only have so much of an influence on other people. And this is determined by whatever state a certain person is in their consciousness and by how much that person is willing to move beyond that. Some might refer to that as a comfort zone.
So in my use of the rabbit and hare analogy earlier, the “two paces” would not be yours and mine; but yours and the rest of the world in general. You will naturally want it to go at a faster pace than the mass consciousness of the general population is ready for. And no matter how much you would like for it to be otherwise, the individual people have to be allowed to progress at their own individual pace and respectfully so.
Both groups I mentioned earlier that I am involved with started out with healthy enthusiastic memberships that slowly dwindled over time. The reason was the frustrations that not enough was being done fast enough. These people could not see a discernable difference that was measurable and gave validity to all their efforts. What was initially enthusiasm gave way to angst. An overabundance of any emotion in a sustained fashion, including enthusiasm, can cause an imbalance in the psyche.
If we discuss The Mission by all its aspects and how to improve upon it, be it the Geisteslehre or raising public awareness to overpopulation, it really is no different because they are both linked to the spiritual evolution of the population en masse – it can only move so fast. At some point you will have to temper your expectations and show up wearing hiking boots instead of sprinters shoes (tortoise and hare).
Thanks again for listening,
Bob |
Markcampbell
Member
Post Number: 59
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 09:30 pm: |
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Hi Phenix
Your idea to create an "Activist Cell" , at least in modern english language terms , translates into something that sounds like a terrorist group , kamerade . Whatever the word is in your native language , it's particularly mis-representative in this context , and seems to me , to indicate an agenda , once again , someone posting things out of the blue that stink of "Tag Words" for search engines to pick up and direct undue attention to this group .
I suggest another term , if I may , try " passive member group " . I think that would be a great idea to follow , however there is one already .
Thanks so much for frequenting the english language site . It has been absolutely no problem whatsoever to assist in helping you to learn our language .
Mark |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 1256
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 12:14 am: |
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Hi All....
Yes, would agree with you, Mark. 'Cell' does sound a bit extreme; same would
apply to 'Action'.
Perhaps something like:' Conscious Global Overpopulation Passive(-member)
Group'?
Edward. |
Pathfinder
Member
Post Number: 206
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 03:34 am: |
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IMO,
I agree with Mark that great caution needs to be applied in any effort to avoid drawing attention to the FIGU group directly, in any way that makes it appear extremist or cultist.
FIGU is the core of the Plejaren effort, and is the most vulnerable part of the anatomy and it is there that the shield should be held in a battle. Over the vital organs.
We all know what the challenge is, and where the battle will take place. But we should not just waltz out into the battlefield without knowing how to protect ourselves, or how to attack the enemy in a way that will enhance victory. An attack needs to be well planned and our vitals need to be well protected.
FIGU should remain as the generals do in battle; in a protected position to the rear, able to lead and observe.
Individually we can tackle these issues of course, as long as we do so with this battle plan in mind, so as not to lead the enemy to the general's location.
Having said that, I do believe that FIGU could also take a stand in some way that does not present a vulnerability.
Let's look at the need and the possible cures.
The main things we would like to tackle are the affects of overpopulation and religious persuasion on humanity.
So when we draw someone to FIGU these two factors should be prominent from the home page and any pamphlets, media and writing that is available.
I note that the various sites all seem to have various home page styles. I can only read English so I am unsure of exactly how they all present themselves.
But if you ask my advice, a start to attacking the main issues would be to encourage all the site builders to act in accordance with the theme of designing their homepages in a similar way, and in a way that visitors can immediately see links to the main issues of overpopulation and religious practices.
What I see on the english site is a sidebar which is a promotion of the new book. And I see some details that relate to some of the more intricate topics of FIGU, which could lead visitors to draw cultist conclusions before doing any further exploration.
IMO, we should be optimizing the opportunity when we attract a visitor and potential member, by getting across our main concerns with more presentation than the promotion of the book. We should have home pages that instantly reveal what we profess, and not what we are selling so we do not come across either as merchants or extremists. In order to accomplish this we should not have any advertisement or promotion on the home page, and we should not have anything that exposes our intricasies either. These things should be found as one enters further into the site and actually becomes interested, and should be lead through a process of designed revelation which would best describe who we are and what we would like to accomplish.
I think this would not only be beneficial to FIGU, but it would also assist any of its members who choose to make their own efforts as Adam is wanting to do.
In this way FIGU will also protect itself from the wanton efforts of its members, who will undoubtedly want to lead interest toward the FIGU site.
In this way any efforts by members that may not be quite 'adequately representative' will be instantly addressed and remedied when the visitor comes to the site. In other words, if we have people who are going to be out there crusading for our causes and using the FIGU name, than we should have a site that not only immediately addresses the main issues, but also assists the crusading efforts, and remedies any inaccuracies, which will most certainly happen.
If FIGU is going to build a membership in search of supporters to address their cause, than they need to be able to assist their supporters, and they also need to be aware that their supporters will create problems that will need to be diffused immediately when attention is drawn in their direction.
The sitebuilders should be coordinated in this effort and have the homepages reflect clearly a concern for overpopulation and a disuasion from religion. Let visitors use the links from there to become more familiar with other aspects of the teachings.
The internet is really our only connection to reach out worldwide. We should use it as efficiently as possible. We should wield it as our main weapon of both offense and defense.
"Therefore nothing may mislead him to un-truth and falseness, because his entire BEING is in the creational cognition of infinite truth."
Contact 18:62
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Kingman
Member
Post Number: 543
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 06:57 am: |
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Hi all,
Follow Billy's lead when wording things I always say(doesn't mean I always follow). How about, 'Nice People Who Want You to Stop Making Babies.' No? Maybe this, 'Simply Look, Over Population People is Yuccy!) with 'SLOPPY' for an acronym. Joking aside, Mark has now involved himself as a consultant so we got that going for us. The advertising agency idea is not a bad idea at all. Maybe if an NGO non-profit identity could be created donations of free advice from such firms could become cultivated.
Late for work, hope I'm not a distraction.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Markcampbell
Member
Post Number: 61
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 10:32 am: |
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Regarding the person known as Phenix , who is only a registered member of the forum , and not a passive member .
This person is not a passive member or any kind of member of FIGU .
Oh , I said that already . |
Phenix
Member
Post Number: 174
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 03:52 pm: |
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Honorable Member Markcampbell,
alles zu seiner Zeit.
Being a Member or carrying whatever Title you might think of, is presently the very last of my Concerns.
Salome,
Adam. |
Kingman
Member
Post Number: 545
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 01:15 am: |
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Adam,
There are somethings that are extremely important to many people who know we need to guard the last time the truth of the Creational Laws will be disseminated on Earth. Any attempts by NEWER energies to intercede into the Mission that Billy, and the Plejaren, has worked at a long time to create, will be heavily scrutinized for potential contamination to their effort, due to indirect associations they have no control over.
Mark has a unique twisted humor that gets to the point, which I'd have to say your missing. He's clarifying an important fact for future reference. And he's not pulling any punches, as they say.
I have one other thing I would like to point out. This is the ENGLISH forum. We read ENGLISH. There is a GERMAN forum, where they read GERMAN. If I wanted all these GERMAN words in posts, I would read the GERMAN forum. You may feel you are teaching use GERMAN, and I don't have to read your posts, but seeing how I'm at the ENGLISH forum I only expect to see GERMAN when it's in the TRANSLATION section. Just saying!
Salome,
a friend in america
Shawn
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Phenix
Member
Post Number: 185
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 09:37 am: |
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Kameraden,
The importance of becoming a FIGU passive member and of attending the work gatherings of passive members, as underlined by mister Michael Horn(Post 706) and supported by member Earthling(Post 115) and the answer of Kamerad Pathfinder to that, namely that he would like to, but that - due to financial restraints - it is not likely to happen, brought me to the following proposal:
What do you think of opening our own founds of passive members?
Each passive member could monthly contribute, let's say 5 Euros/Dollars, to that safe - i proposed this amount, for it is currently the price of one box of cigarettes here and i supposed that most of us could afford that. The forum could decide of another amount.
Each passive member could then have the trip to the SSSC paid from that safe - one member, two or three...at a time, depending on the available financial means.
The order of those trips could be established upon alphabetical order ; i shall apply for passive membership at the end of this month and would figure on that list by the letter 'S' from my family name, Sunna, for fairness - and Pathfinder is actually Edward, 'E', amazing, isn't ?:-)
And if it won't be wise to burden the already busy Core Group with this, i would suggest to trust this safe to... Creation-nal self, provided of course the noble comrade Zhila feels the calling and can technically fulfill it.
Looking forward to your views.
Salome,
Adam.
PS: dear Pathfinder, i am not really confused; i am just reaching out for help. |
Kingman
Member
Post Number: 560
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 12:23 pm: |
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Adam,
"Each passive member could then have the trip to the SSSC paid from that safe - one member, two or three...at a time, depending on the available financial means."
A lovely thought, an unrealistic thought. It's also a personal goal that is best created through ones own hard work and desire. If something is truly worthwhile in our lives, we will do all we can to reach that goal, if we are conscious of our true feelings and desires.
While times are changing financially all around us, there are many ways to help ones goals become reality. Being helped by another human being is always a wonderful thought, but not always a wonderful thing. Our own personal goals will sort themselves out if we are clear in our thinking and act upon them in logical ways.
For years I lived with never always knowing if I was going to have all the rent money each month. I was able to create a thought form that it would always be taken care of if I did my best each month in securing the needed funds. It always worked. Then I got smarter and created a thought form that made me always have 6 months worth of rent money always available, and this worked.
I'm up to a years worth now and am forming a thought on owning the roof over my head. How will I do this? This is simple, 'I Will'. No one can do this for me.
If someone truly wishes to visit the SSSC in Switzerland, they will need to create the thought form themselves and reach the goal that way.
Creating an additional Passive Group is not my idea of a needed aspect of this forum.
Salome,
p.s. don't you have enough on your plate as it is
a friend in america
Shawn
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