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chiuwang
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Hi Rick:
I remembered Semjase brought Mr. Meier to the future through Bermuda Triangle 'warm hole' and reached the earth 460 years in the future, and that was in arount 1980, so the future world timeline should be around 2440, at that time, earth human beings has similar type of interplanetery vessels like beam ship.
Hampton Chiu |
Greg
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 01:12 pm: |
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It seems to me that the works of Tesla have been surpressed since the early 1900's. As the father of AC current. Tesla had a vision of free energy for all and when the higher powers (money men)got wind of his plan they did everything they could to supress his Scalar technology. One man stands out in his quest for free energy. This man happens to be ex military. Read about Tom Bearden.
He has patients for the "MEG" Device. We can only hope this is the begining of a new age of science.
Greg
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Michael
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Post Number: 408
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2003 - 11:11 pm: |
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This may be as good a place as any to put this link:
http://www.exopolitics.org/Study-Paper-6.htm
While there appear to be some clear overlaps with the Meier material, it will be quite interesting to find out how much of this article is purely truthful and how much of it is disinformation.
Michael Horn
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Hector
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 11:47 am: |
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I`ve seen a very interesting link about antigravity and its study related to biology,and insects in particular.A russian cientist called Viktor Grebennikov managed to create a antigravitatory flying device that could reach speeds up to 25km/minute.The complete article here:
http://antigravitypower.tripod.com/Grebennikov/index.html
http://www.sinor.ru/~che/grebennikov.htm
Salome |
James
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Post Number: 17
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2006 - 08:23 am: |
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Have you guys heard of John Roy Robert Searl? Apparently he had built antigravity craft. I just finished watching a conference video from 1994 here http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8635897559220353909&q=searl&pl=true
His website is here http://www.searlsolution.com/ and another good one here http://searleffect.com/
John Searl's message
The day will come before I die, that man on Earth will not believe what they are reading. Is it possible that there could be such people on our planet?
What really worries me is that the number of followers who will follow those idiots will continue to grow. Some of the things I expect these leaders of men will be telling the world, is that they suspect the ozone hole has always been there. Their claims that if chlorofluorocarbons really destroy the ozone then there should be a hole over the factories that make it.
They no doubt will have never heard of the magnetic fields centred over the poles of this planet, not to mention the wind. And should you ask these experts about the greenhouse effect, they will simply say there is no such thing. Then when you ask them about the acid rain, they simple state that it is only one per cent of what it is claimed to be.
Surely there can be none so blind as those who do not wish to see, and when that is coupled with uninhibited greed, as no doubt it will be, then it will become a sad day for Mother Earth and her children. For we truly are, the children of Mother Earth.
Welcome to Earth!
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Rarena
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Post Number: 115
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 09:08 am: |
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Hi James,
John Searl's book was interesting but the magnets he used in his disk were not controlable and he lost most of his "projects"... they went through the roof...
Have been reading the Anti Gravity Papers (They all told the Truth) by Richard P Crandell a physicist. He explains a new atomic structure which makes very good sense and describes the way a neutron and proton can be in such close proximity and still be attracted to one another.
Without getting too technical (oops too late)
Crandell describes three levels to the proton. Three quarks to a proton sounds like a Hollywood movie from the 50's (with respects to Three coins in a Fountain). These quarks contain 12 vacuons and different groupings which spin in differential rotational directions more clockwise in the center and more counter clockwise at the poles... sounds a little bitlike the solar plasma with differential rotation of the solar sheet and all... The direction is unimportant and may be opposite to what is actually described here, but, the point is... it's the differential rotation and the relative directional vectors that are important to the developement of charge. Crandell has been able to quantify charge, never before possible with any other physicists' proof. He gets the mass better than ninety percent accurate. Creation does NOT play dice with the
Universe, we can now measure and quantify charge and depict where the particles actually ARE rather than using a probablity curve. Einstein mentioned "dice" when realizing he could get no better than probablity for finding atomic particle weight and locations. He was going against Neils Bohr and the so called Copenhagen philosophy of determinism by that comment.
This realitivly new principal eliminates the
probablity and creates real determinable accuracy!
Amazing.
The neutron contains equal differential
rotational vectors caused by the rotation of the
vacuons within the quarks so the "uplift" and
"downdraft" are equal and therefore impart no
outwardly detectable charge.
The proton rotation has a slight charge due to unequal rotatinal vectors and is attracted to the neutron via this new "magnetic" rather than
"electrical" attraction theory just slightly different than the Maxwell equations. In the magnetic field according to Maxwell's' equation which this guy Crandell proves to be slightly different in regards to magnetic energy, the like charges are attracted to each other, which is opposite to the way electrical energy performs, old, now outdated physics told us like charges repel. This web site also corroborates this new finding:
http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf112/sf112p14.htm as do many others search on Google "like charges attract". It also explains how water has surface
tension and laminar or streamline flow...
So by putting them both together in an ordered style space/time (one and the same) is curved into itself... A singularity is formed by re-Creation of the three tierd level of vacuons within the quarks... a new componet of the atom... provable mathmatically (big deal... right...). Come on... keep and open mind
here. K?
So... taking the invention of T. Townsend Brown in 1958 which I never understood until reading this book, the magnetogravitic force can be produced electrically, hence mag/lev trains and such. J.R. Searl the English gentleman who invented a disk using extremely expensive magnets has never had his experiment with total gravitomeagnetic levitation repeated... at least not very often. His book was frightfully expensive as well. Gravitomagnetic or Magnetogravitic (different than mag/lev) devices cause aluminum and copper to heat up in a large radius, all televisions and radios to screw up for hundreds of feet and normal machines like cars to fail while they are in the proximity of the singularity (black hole) produced by this toroidal inward curving of the magnetic field. So... if your going to build one... be in the country.
Also... Searle, because he used magnets lost all of his devices, which rose into the atomsphere and never came back... this new design uses electrical switching to shut off or direct the natural forces to the source of this energy.
Be like the source and gain the power of the source...
This three level tier simulating vacuons creates
unimaginable power! Energy equals mass times (the
weight or gravitational effect) times the speed of
light squared ball park around 2.9X10 m/s to the
nineteenth power, a very LARGE number... unimaginable power!
By using cones and triangles the gravitomagnetic/ magnetogravitic field is focused from the wide end of the triangular capacitor to the narrow end and explains the roughness of some of the space material found at alien crash sites. Having some experience myself, building large capacitors in the construction of large Tesla coils has taught me the extreme power capacitors can create by storing huge magnetic as well as electrical charges.
Here is more information:
http://www.gaiaguys.net/Masons.vacuons.htm
Have only read the first hundred pages of this
book, it is about three hundred pages 8½"X11" normal print and costs around $70 on Amazon.com the old ones cost $300? There are mathematical proofs explaining what is described in lay terms better than I have, being a kung fu high techie beta dweeb physics buff.
Anyway, Larry Spring... a friend that must be in his late 80's or 90's now... described magnetosphere's for years when describing atoms exactly as this guy Crandell professes. Larry backs it up with magnets, Crandell backs it up with math very well that is easily understandable.
Take care,
Much love to you and yours...
Randy ô¿ô
PS> Disinformation? Who knows... parts of it make
sense. 97.6 percent of all statistics are made up... the rest are false.
PPS> Anything incorrect here? Please let me know...
PPPS> This is an viable ENERGY SOURCE... use it.
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Kiril
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Post Number: 157
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 03:29 pm: |
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Rarena,
http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf112/sf112p14.htm :" show that two similarly charged polymer spheres suspended in water can attract each other when they are several diameters apart."
How does this prove that like charges attract?
Polymer(what type of polymers?) spheres are not electrons or protons. And the spheres are placed in water? Waters nature is on equally shaky grounds as the electron. The spheres aren't even of equal charge("similarly"). This type of science(sic) makes me sick in my stomach - much a reminder of the science of global warming.
Besides this there are some other problems with this theory(sic). First, we would never be able to move, since the electrons in the outer shells of atoms would make our shoes stick to the ground. You couldn't watch television since all you would see is an electron beam a few electrons wide - since, after being produced by the titanium cathode the electrons will attract each other. Oh and this is the best one - you couldn't exist - since it would change entirely the formation of ionic and covalent bonding - if bonding of elements is at all possible. |
Kiril
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Post Number: 158
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 03:34 pm: |
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Oh and electrons in a magnetic field do tend to converge its called the pinch effect and its totally predictable by standard theory. |
Jakes
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Post Number: 28
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 10:19 pm: |
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Hello Kiril,
I don't know what you are saying by this statement: This type of science(sic) makes me sick in my stomach - much a reminder of the science of global warming. Kiril, just wondering, are you disputing that global warming is occurring?
This comes from Contact 251:
With the melting of the polar caps there also looms for Earth in the not-too-distant future another severe economic crisis that will spread throughout the globe. And another global war, World War IV, will once again threaten this planet and its entire terrestrial population because of their own unreason. However, several reasonable individuals are able to neutralize the threat, which is again abetted by the invention of new weapons with great striking power that will be the materialization of those weapons existing now only in science fiction novels. They are deathray throwers, ray canons, ray rifles and ray guns, among others. In the midst of these developments, three scientists will generate an incredibly inexpensive energy source, although this will not be the only new form of energy, for another will be found as well, that is based on sound vibrations. And again, new and deadly weapons will be developed from this. Scientists tend to utilize everything they can get their hands on, and for this reason it is inevitable that Man will stop the Greenhouse Effect and utilize its effects in reverse, thereby preventing a further melting of the polar caps. These actions, in turn, will lower the highly elevated water levels of all oceans.
I don't dispute there is much junk science/hoaxing in many fields, and the science of global warming is not without controversy. However, many reputable scientists have been studying this phenomenon for decades and have concurred that indeed, global warming is underway. In the US, it is clear on what side of the facts the present administration stands. Have you seen the big-oil-funded commercial against global warming?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq_Bj-av3g0
Here’s the tag-line: Carbon dioxide, they call it pollution, we call it life.
That's what I call sick.
Best regards,
Jakes |
Thomas
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Post Number: 140
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Friday, December 01, 2006 - 01:25 am: |
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About gravity technology, I have just gotten Guido Moosbrugger's book (in german), Flugreisen durch Zeit und Raum, and I found some little pieces of info that I wanted to bring up to anyone who is familiar with BEAMs info in this area. (sidenote: I am just beginning to learn german and thus may have misinterpreted various things so take caution accepting what I convey when it comes from a strictly german source)
If I understood correctly, Guido states that gravity IS conveyed by gravitons (I always tended to believe that gravitons did not exist) and he says (again, if I understood correctly) that gravity DOES only travel at lightspeed. To me this is confusing since I was under the impression that gravity propelled vehicles are capable of making sharp and aggressive turns and maneuvers without affecting the crew because the gravity field of the craft pulls instantly on all matter SIMULTANEOUSLY AND WITHOUT A TIME DELAY. If this were not true, then it seems that any lag in force application between different locations within the craft would tear it apart or at least injure the crew. Also if you assume that the forcefield protection screen diverts external gravity, that still does not prevent the innate effects of the inertia of the crew and ship during sudden maneuvers. Make any sense what I am trying to get at?? Something just doesn't add up but maybe it is a misinterpretation on my part. Any help would be appreciated! By the way I think it was probably page 225 in Guido's book that had this info, but I am not certain, just in case someone who does read german has the book and can look into it...
Thanks again
Thomas |
Thomas
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Post Number: 141
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Friday, December 01, 2006 - 01:28 am: |
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Speaking of electrons, I also read in Guido's book (if I understood it correctly) that electrons come in various forms and are transformable somehow, and that they also become chronons!!! Page 279 in Guido's book if anyone has the book and wants to check my info... |
Rarena
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Post Number: 118
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, December 01, 2006 - 07:38 am: |
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Hi Kiril,
Your theories are of the "typical" academic variety.
Have you read the Antigravity Papers? This theory was created in late 2001 which means it is not in schools yet and is fully supported mathematically (big deal).
It's true... don't believe everthing you read, find out for yourself.
As to standard theory, this is not. It behaves all the rules except a slight change in Maxwells' equation.
Randy ô¿ô
PS> If you have the need to be right... then this complex theory which has only been briefly explained to you, and minutely touched upon is wrong... you're right. Feel better now? But did you learn anything? |
Kiril
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Post Number: 159
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Friday, December 01, 2006 - 04:38 pm: |
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Jakes:
I mean strictly the science that attempts to explain the changes that are occurring - if we can call it science.
Rarena:
If you have a reasonable argument against my previous post I will be happy to reply.
Kiril |
Rarena
Member
Post Number: 121
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Monday, December 04, 2006 - 09:23 am: |
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Kiril,
If you had read the Antigravity Papers or at least aware of Crandell's findings... then it would be a reasonable argument. Right?
The need to be right is a stumbling block in the quest for truth.
Much love to you...
Randy Arena ô¿ô |
Mgilbo1
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Post Number: 51
Registered: 09-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 10:11 am: |
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Heres a good link to Rense.com which seems to have photos of the craft made in Brazil. It could obviously be a fake but does look a lot like the ones out of ww2.
http://www.rense.com/general74/retr.htm
Mark Gilbo
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Hector
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Post Number: 165
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, December 23, 2006 - 09:50 am: |
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Hey guys how dare we discuss gravity-antigravity if we don't know its causes or/and its effects/manifestations.
It seems that Einsteins explanation, a curvature of space/time, is pure bogus.Seems like einstein tried to integrate gravitation into his "infallible" special relativity theory(SRT) at any personal/reputational cost, but with no conclusive/definitive scientific result.
In the contact notes semjase offers some info about what causes gravitation to appear, but i haven't read those lines.
We need to characterize Gravitation before we attempt to build antigravity devices based on erroneous presumptions.
Einsteins gravitation theory seems to be a castle in the air, a mental construct that does not describe the phenomenom correctly.In the 20th century Einstein was enthroned, canonized, and idolized, but his theories are just that, mere theories, not facts.He also tried to destroy Newton's ether concept at any cost.Ether (that could be compared to creation's fine matter) would be the ultimate energy generator, supplier and the medium in which any physical event would take place.Quantum mechanics support the existance of such an "ether" at subatomic levels.
Further reading on Einsteins critics: http://www.infinite-energy.com/iemagazine/issue38/einstein.html
Any comments are welcomed (i'm no science man).Regards, Merry Christmas without excesses... |
Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 386
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, December 23, 2006 - 06:49 pm: |
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Hi Hector,
You wrote: "Hey guys how dare we discuss gravity-antigravity if we don't know its causes or/and its effects/manifestations."
You can learn all about it, and solve many other mysteries about particle physics, in about an hour of reading a book called They All Told the Truth by Richard Crandall.
VACUONS (quark subunits) is the key. Please see www.gaiaguys.net/Masons.vacuons.htm
(Very perspicacious of you, my friend, to deduce the A-bomb tests! But history does form repeating patterns, doesn’t it?)
Cheers!
Dyson |
Flap_dragon
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 12:44 am: |
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Hello there,
I have just encountered a rather remarkable device (fascinations.com/unique-toys-gifts/top-secret.htm) called “Top Secret.” This ‘magic trick’ consists of an electromagnetic base upon which a spinning top continues perpetually (or until the 9v battery runs out which could be days!). Very cool little toy for people who are into flying saucers to say the least. But the thing that’s even more interesting is that once the spinning top reaches its equilibrium speed, it seems to behave very much like the beamship in the Meier movie from March 1975 (theyfly.com/photos/photos.htm#movie).
It seems to me, that the top circles through the center of the dish much like the beamship flies around the tree. According to Fascinations: “When the top spins past the center of the base, its changing magnetic field induces a current in the coil which momentarily opens the switch to the battery resulting in powering up the electromagnet. The electromagnet then delivers enough torque to the spinning top to allow it to speed up and spin away from the center.” This makes me wonder if the tree in the Meier movie served a similar purpose? The little top even stiffens up and appears to ‘behave’ as if it were the bottom part of a pendulum.
When I ‘fired’ up my top for the first time, I was in awe how similar it appeared to the beamship once it got going. This device has given me further evidence that the beamships in the Meier movies are actual craft; and these machines display basic anti-gravity flight dynamics (unlike the randomness of a suspended fake) that can be recreated in part by the physics of this electromagnetic model (as well as another Fascinations product: the “Levitron.”).
In this day and age of people trying to discredit the Meier beamship movies as hoaxes, UFO researchers might be interested in these little toy tops. I would encourage anyone to check this out for himself. I would be interested in any feedback.
Anthony J. Alagna
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Gicayhwh
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Post Number: 44
Registered: 06-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 01:55 pm: |
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Hello dear all,
I am very close to put 4 neo magnets shaped like a arch of a circle against 3, the same. And using a unidirectional ballbearing together with a flywheel. I am sure this will help at least some of us. The rest of population that are skepticks can pay the electric bill.
See what happens, I am not afraid.
Gica
I would say, maybe within a week I would load a small video, showing it's real |
Cpl
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Post Number: 286
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 08:21 am: |
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Hi Gica,
Not to put the dampers on your enthusiasm, but many of us have read this over twenty years ago. The problem is how to utilize this to create enough energy to use in the home (or elsewhere) on a practical basis.
Be sure to let us know if you come up with a magnetism amplifier that enables you to run some useful and costly-to-run machines, or just enough to save some on the electric bill. Not one of the people that have made these has, to my knowledge, produced anything cost effective or cost saving on the electricity bill to date.
I know other cost saving energy systems have been developed, like using the differential between the temps of air and refrigerator liquids, but that's another story--by Dennis Lee, if I remember correctly.
The topic heading here is antigravity tech., which is a little different from what you're discussing.
Anyway, wish you luck. |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 1310
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 09:31 pm: |
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Mr. Hutchison, speaks of gravitons and chronons...
http://www.hutchisoneffect.ca/Videos.html |
Rarena
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Post Number: 276
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 08:03 am: |
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Kiril,
Water... a very interesting molecule... and the hydrogen effect may be in play in your previous reference. My discussion was on sub atomic nuclei, not molecular valence. |
Jplagasse
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Post Number: 350
Registered: 09-2000
| | Posted on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 09:49 pm: |
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ha !! 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hameltech/
Dyson did a very interesting experiment a while back on the magnetic spinning magnetic motor thing... & confirmed what the above hameltech forum guys have NOT been able to figure out.
A personal feeble tekki attempt at describing the effect, is all.
http://www.gaiaguys.net/georgegreen.htm
Mind you, we still need to keep an open mind and investigate whatever might be of promise...
http://www.lutec.com.au/index.htm
Just a few rambling contributions... subject to change with any of the latest info etc.
There's LOTS of us tekki/engineering types watching all this... Perhaps some of you might be surprised at "how much".
Keep the info coming, whichever way ya'll look at this. Fascinating stuff !!
Regards,
JP |
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