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Cpl
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Post Number: 418
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Jrod,

Yes. So they will indeed all have different amounts of things. Not that they will personally place much store in the "having".

It is not merely an application of logic but also a community living from the heart.

Chris
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Edward
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Post Number: 1302
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2009 - 12:44 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Joe....


Well, your question has been discussed before.

In any case of Overpopulation the term you mentioned - ever been turned down - can come into effect.

It was mentioned in previous discussions, that the Plejarans keep Birth
Control through the utilization of herbs and plants and similar solutions, if
needed to be. [Which is even today, known and in effect to some tribes in Asia
and related peoples; from my own studies. So, this Plejaran method still
exists today. But alas, not put into Global utilization; I mentioned this
years ago, here.]

If I remember clearly, Quetzal has been one that has done studies in that
solution direction. Which also makes him more-or-less...an authority when it
concerns, the mentioned. So, he Knows....WHAT he is talking about, even, when
it comes down to our Earthly Alternative Solutions; what is effective and not.


Edward.
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Borthwey
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Post Number: 72
Registered: 09-2007
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2009 - 08:42 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chris,

What I meant is that use doesn’t always imply ownership. In the case of the car collection, the action of seeing the vehicles “live” is using them, the same could be said about all the free Nature areas of the planet, foot paths, public facilities etc. In the case of requesting a beamship for interplanetary travel, they would naturally be referring to it as “my” our “our” ship even though they would be returning it upon arrival.

In here we have a huge amount of choice among products which accomplish the same function, be it cars, shoes, TV’s, watches, clothes, furniture, etc. I will speculate that in their planet, or sun system, there is a single “corporation” for each kind of product, which will produce a certain variety of versions. How wide that variety is is something that I have no idea of. Maybe they are happy wearing all the same things and having similar “furniture” in their homes? Maybe there are many models and some people will have large collections of shoes for example? What logic tells me that doesn’t exist though, is a differentiation in the quality of products like exists here. All that is produced must be of the highest quality possible and be available to everyone. So, there is no need to differentiate what one can have according to the abilities because everyone can have the best possible living conditions.

I have posted a part of Billy’s book “Die Wahreit über die Plejaden” in the translation section which sources some of my earlier statements. The way how it is written makes me think that the person in question is not a part of the mission, or else it would have been referred to by name.

Regards
David
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Villatlf
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Post Number: 4
Registered: 02-2009
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 07:17 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Asket & Nera photos revisited:

A new look a these photographs and new evidence that I have found gave me an idea of what happened with the photos, and how Asket really looks like. You may find my investigation very interesting.

I always think the truth can be found by looking deep in the heart. In this case I have found a truth by looking deep inside the “Golddiggers heart”.

Please see this document with my investigation and my conclusions:

http://www.santuarios.com/Asket.pdf

Francisco
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Cpl
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Post Number: 420
Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 06:57 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

David,

Thank you for that posting and your efforts to procure it. It does show that there is an actual owner for the museum who basically founded and created it, that it is open to the public, and as you said, it is not owned by one of the contacts but a certain hobbyist.

It's pretty obvious that people on Erra do have different possessions: a farmer will have more land and different buildings than a writer e.g., all based on their different abilities and needs.

Kind regards,
Chris
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Michael
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Post Number: 745
Registered: 10-2000
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The following is a spelling corrected (for Ptaah) excerpt from Contact 39 Wednesday, December 3, 1975, which shows - well in advance of the controversy that erupted over the photos - that perhaps Ptaah already knew about this coming problem for Billy:

Sentences 222 - 225

Ptaah - 222/ It has already been a great exception that you are allowed to get photographs of Asket and Nera, because besides this, we have found female Earth beings who look strikingly similar to them, and who, interestingly, are also cooperating together.

Meier - Dear, that is a pity. But the women, the dopplegangers of Asket and Nera, where are they?

Ptaah - 223/ In the land of America.

Meier - Can you perhaps give me their address, and tell more details about them?

Ptaah - 224/ I don't want to for certain reasons.

Meier - You always are so secretive .

Ptaah - 225/ In certain matters this has to be so.
Michael Horn
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Norm
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Post Number: 1236
Registered: 02-2000
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michael, The question is. Were the girl cooperating with the MIB, CIA or whatever the Secret Service was that did this.

Billy needs should clear up all these definitions he uses they are confusing.
My Website
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Rarena
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Post Number: 409
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 03:48 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Norm,

Didn't the contact notes say it was Giza intelligences...? Will try to search a reference for you...

Found one reference Contact 263 KB8 Pg15 3/14/98 but I remember something around contact 105 or somewhere around that time period that mentioned this... You might try a search on this forum or David Chances' site...

If it were a specific three letter group it would not be told due to the danger of military security to Billy's and our security.
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Villatlf
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 02-2009
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 04:07 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Norm and Michael,

I do not know if the Ladies have something to do with this, but I would make a few questions to Michelle DellaFave:

- It is true that she gave to the IIG the photo shown in their page? (http://www.iigwest.com/investigations/meier/asket_nera_deconstruction.html)

- Is the blond lady on the left Michelle?

- Why she looks older and different that the photo in the Golddiggers site?
- When she started to use the same hair arrangement that the Asket pictures shows?

My personal point of view is that Michelle does not look like Asket, not a the time the pictures of Dean Martin Show were taken. She could be probably like her when she changed her hair arrangement.

I think all of this is part of the “Exit door” that is required. Some people need to find a way out from an uncomfortable truth, if it goes against theirs believes (mental programs). Otherwise we will be full of mad people on the Earth. It may sound contradictory, but the job of the skeptics is very important in this process and they have to offer the “exit door”. The truth seems to be a medicine that has to be swallowed slowly.

Francisco
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Behzad
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Post Number: 63
Registered: 04-2008
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Norm,

about the girl in the photo , I must say I think she is alive and living some where in America now, JaemsTruthseeker personally visited her and he has some her resent and newly photos (in Yahoo Group- Plajeran is real). sometime ago I sent some words to Truthseeker via yahoo messenger and requested some more explanation about the girl and the case (that Show and more) but unfortunately I didn't receive any thing.

I think maybe with the help of Truthseeker or Michel Horn it can be find more new information or even an interview of this lady for the Forum that would be interested for any body here.
Salome Friends
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 635
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2009 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

*******

Greetings in Peace Behzad

Are you fluent in the Farsi Language?

Our fellow-member, Creational Zhila, has translated the Birth-Stop Petition from English into Farsi for all those which speak this language. She has not posted this translation yet, as she would like someone to ProofRead her work for accuracy - to reflect the Intent of the Petition.

If you can spare some time to assist in this important work, it will be VERY much appreciated. Or perhaps you could suggest someone who may be of assistance here?

For your information, the English version is presented on the website of Future of Mankind, found here...:
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Special:Petition

Peace upon Your House, and with All You Love

Salome


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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 634
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2009 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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We All Come Together here in Peace

Found this Photo, which appears similar to the description of the Homes on Erra...

Erra-style Home

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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 410
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2009 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Respectfully, Rod, the domed homes on Erra are described as seamless in the book, Aus den Tiefen des Weltenraums, such that no joints at all can be seen, which is much different from the dimpled golf ball texture seen in the photo you posted.

Regards
Bob
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 637
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2009 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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OK, Bob, I did say similar - yes?.
So in your minds-eye, just imagine the whole thing sprayed over with ShotCrete - for that "nice, smooth appearance" Ja?

Perhaps Billy has an actual photo he could share with you.
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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Marcela
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Post Number: 104
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2009 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

J_rod7:

That building really looks futuristic; I know that a dome-like structure doesn’t need wood or metal to form the shape. so, it is a good way to save material. It is just a guess on why the Plejarens use that particular shape for the construction of their houses.
Salome
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Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 411
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2009 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Go ahead and make light of my correction if you need to Rod, but aside from that structure being spheroid, its' most distinguishing feature is the combination grid and circle pattern covering the whole surface. You wouldn't want to leave people with the false impression that the Plejarens live in giant replicas of gold colored golfballs now would you? ;-) I assume that if you knew of that information before hand you would not have posted that photo.

Regards
Bob
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Behzad
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Post Number: 64
Registered: 04-2008
Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2009 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Comrade J_rod7

Yes , as I,m Iranian naturally my native language is Farsi.

I dident know ever that Zhila knows Persian and she has translated the petition to Farsi.

if she/anybody needs hand for Proofreading or any thing in translation to this language , I,m ready to share for sure.
Salome Friends
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Borthwey
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Post Number: 74
Registered: 09-2007
Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2009 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://static.monolithic.com/
David
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 639
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Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2009 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Greetings in Peace Behzad,

It is an honor to all of us, for your willingness to share in this mission. I have sent an email to Zhila in this respect, and she will contact you as she is able. Thank You.

In Gratitude
Salome

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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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J_rod7
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Post Number: 640
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Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2009 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Hi David,
That monolithic website really has a LOT of good ideas for Dome and Round Buildings. Good photos, too. Thanks for sharing.

Bob,
I apologize for 'short-changing' your opinion.

Salome
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You say you want an Evolution, well you know, we're all doing what we can. -(Beatles revamped)
Rod
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Rarena
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Post Number: 410
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Monday, February 16, 2009 - 07:40 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There is a rendition of the homes on Erra in the book : Aus den Tiefen des Weltenraums 50 CHF with 10 CHF postage...

Freie Interessengemeinschaft für
Grenz- und Geisteswissenschaften
CH-8495 Schmidrüti
Switzerland

Here is an excerpt: Aus den Tiefen des Weltenraums

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Marksmanr
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Post Number: 71
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Monday, February 16, 2009 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rarena, may I please have a scan of that rendition? I do want to buy the book but I currently have almost no money. I've been learning 3D computer graphics software (3DS Max 2009) and I have the idea of making a short animation about homes on Erra.

By the way your link is broken.
Reece Stiller
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Marksmanr
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Post Number: 72
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Monday, February 16, 2009 - 05:31 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Plejaren send impulses to various people on Earth and "literary works in a futuristic form will be written, science fiction that will frequently be turned into motion pictures."

I wonder, is the storyline of the following video influenced by the Plejaren? I highly recommend you's to watch it, as it is very reminiscent:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn8ZvL8uBFE
Reece Stiller

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