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Silence
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Post Number: 8
Registered: 09-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 08:25 am: | 
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Hello
I read my post from two months ago. It's amazing how things can change in such a short period. No such thoughts crowd my mind anymore. Instead of thinking about how things should be done in life, how to tackle problems, how to behave , and so on... I simply do it. After years of self- exploration and making all those annoying voices in my head disappear. I simply do what am supposed to do, the best way I can. Simple. Every single one of us has his own way to follow. I follow mine, someone else has his own and so on... I just listen to my let's say "voice" or "heart" and have absolutly no regrets.
Life is fun, no?
Adam |
Edward
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Post Number: 1532
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 02:46 am: |
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Hi Silence/Adam...
Well, you did mention the/a Keyword!
"Simple" (or Simplicity)!
Billy even did mentioned that from the Simplest things One gains the Greatest
Results/Knowledge!
We live in a time of False Spirituality, and not TRUE Creational
Spirituality...and thus, there is just too much 'lip service' than just plain
old...- Plug and Play -, so to speak.
LIFE is indeed...FUN! [Thank You Creation.....]
It is WHAT YOU....make of it.....
Edward. |
Matthew_justin_deagle
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Post Number: 159
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 10:12 pm: |
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61 Jahre Gedichte, Sprüche, Aphorismen
61 Years of Poems, Proverbs, Aphorisms
von ‘Billy’ Eduard Albert Meier
by ‘Billy’ Eduard Albert Meier
1943-2004
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p. 100
1972
Liebe ist Verstehen und Verständnis…
Love is Understanding and Understandal…
Liebe ist Verstehen und Verständnis.
Love is understanding and understandal (understanding-availability).
Liebe ist Zuneigung und Zugeneigtsein.
Love is tipping-to and being-tipped-to.
Liebe ist Erfüllen und Erfüllung.
Love is fulfilling and fulfilment.
Liebe ist Wertsein und Werterhaltung.
Love is being-worth/worthhood and worth-retaining/-upholding.
Liebe ist Gesetz und Gebot.
Love is law and bid (recommendation/offer).
Liebe ist Wissen und Weisheit.
Love is witledge/knowledge and wisdom/wiseness.
Liebe ist Harmonie und Harmoniesein.
Love is harmony and harmonyhood.
Liebe ist Einssein.
Love is onehood/being-one.
Liebe ist Leben und Vereinung.
Love is life and unitement/union.
Liebe ist Verbundenheit.
Love is linkedness/upboundness.
Liebe ist Licht in hellstem Sohar.
Love is light in brightest Zohar.
Liebe ist erfülltes Bemühen um Erkennung.
Love is fulfilled effort-making for cognition.
Liebe ist das Befolgen der Wahrheit.
Love is giving-follow to the truth.
Liebe ist die Erfüllung des Lebens.
Love is the fulfilment of life.
Liebe ist das Leben selbst.
Love is life itself.
Liebe ist Erfüllung der Wahrheit.
Love is fulfilment of the truth.
Liebe ist Erfüllung von Gesetz und Gebot.
Love is fulfilment of law and bid.
Liebe ist SEIN im SEIN.
Love is BEING in the BEING.
Liebe ist füreinander und miteinander.
Love is for eachother and with eachother.
Donnerstag, 3. Februar 1972, 09.16 Uhr
Dietlikon/ZH/Schweiz, Billy
Thursday, 3 February 1972, 09:16 o’clock
Dietlikon, Switzerland – Billy
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Salome,
- Matthew |
Matthew_justin_deagle
Member
Post Number: 160
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 10:16 pm: |
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Remark: for 'Befolgen' one might also say 'taking follow from' or 'affollowing' or 'following suit after', etc.
Salome,
- Matthew |
Matthew_justin_deagle
Member
Post Number: 161
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 07:01 am: |
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...or 'keeping follow after' might just give the most general sense here. |
Matthew_justin_deagle
Member
Post Number: 162
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 08:52 am: |
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Additionally:
Liebe ist Zuneigung und Zugeneigtsein.
Love is inclination-to and being-inclined-to.
(resp. tipping-to and being-tipped-to)
Although the noun 'incline' often becomes used as a synonym for 'slope' (tendency to fall/slip a certain way; hang), it ownfully has a different sense and connotation, namely 'in-lean' or 'in-co-/fellow-/together-lean/-line' (Neigung), thus not quite the same as a mere fallwardness.
Salome,
- Matthew |
Getknowledge
Member
Post Number: 84
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 09:03 pm: |
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How do we begin to recognise the laws and directives of Creation for ourselves?
OM tells us that the prophets have often taken their students into free nature to teach them because the works of creation themselves express the love of Creation.
[From, OM, Canon 40:] 36.The human is another person, when, surrounded by the rays of the heavenly creational sunrise, the pure delight of awakening nature streams through him.
What a beautiful line. Who thinks of stuff like that? And every line of his is like that.
The yoke of the Laws of Creation is truly light. It feels good. I have never associated the word "law" to anything like that before. Its nothing to fear.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Laws_and_Directives_of_Creation
Tien
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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 1892
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2009 - 03:49 am: |
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Tien,
The German word "Gebot" has been revised by FIGU to mean "recommendations" rather than "Directives"
Regards
Scott |
Getknowledge
Member
Post Number: 85
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2009 - 10:23 pm: |
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Scott, you know what...that feels even better, and probably more in line.
Tien
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Phi_spiral
Member
Post Number: 473
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, December 20, 2009 - 08:21 pm: |
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Hello Tien
You might also appreciate this poetic passage written by Billy taken from, Die Art zu leben, page 82:
«Wie will der Mensch die Schöpfung verstehen, wenn er noch nicht einmal sich selbst versteht! Er schaue daher nur aus nach der Schöpfung und erkenne und befolge ihre Gesetze und Gebote, die sich allüberall offenbaren. Der Mensch schaue hinauf in den Himmel, denn dort kann er sehen, wie die Kräfte der Schöpfung durch die Natur wirken; wie die Sonne im Raume steht und die Wolken dahinziehen; oder wie die Wolken sich hochtürmen und dahinjagen und grelle Blitze mit gewaltigen Donnerschlägen aus ihnen hervorschiessen und Regen oder Hagel aus ihnen herniederprasselt. Und der Mensch möge sehen, wenn nach dem Gewitter wieder die Sonne scheint und die Blumen noch regennass in ihrer ganzen Pracht leuchten und duften. Dahin möge der Mensch seinen Blick und seine Gedanken wenden und in diesbezüglicher Meditation seine Ruhe und seinen Frieden sowie Liebe, Harmonie und Ausgeglichenheit finden.»
(My unofficial rough translation):
How will man understand creation if he does not even understand himself yet! He looks therefore simply out toward creation and recognises and obeys its laws and recommendations which reveal themselves everywhere. The human being looks up into the sky, because there they can see how the forces of creation work by nature; how the sun stands in space and the clouds move along; or how the clouds pile up high and skitter and glaring lightning spurt from them with huge thunderclaps and rain or hail patter downward from them. And the human may see if after the thunderstorm the sun appears again and the flowers still shine wet from rain in their whole splendour and smell. There the human being might turn their gaze and thoughts and find rest and peace as well as love, harmony and balance in relevant meditation.
Regards
Bob |
Bianca
Member
Post Number: 45
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Monday, December 21, 2009 - 04:27 am: |
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Hi Bob,
How wonderful it is to be able to read something so soothing and positively enriching, I envy those who are lucky to be able to read German. Could you please translate some more? I am asking specifically because all we read is so heavy on the psyche that's its hard to be positive let alone neutral. But I must say that Mediation does wonders to my mind. Thank you,b |
Phi_spiral
Member
Post Number: 474
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Monday, December 21, 2009 - 05:47 pm: |
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Hello Bianca
Yes, you are quite right. Maintaining a balanced psyche is very important to our everyday spiritual life. In the contact notes, the Plejaren sometimes refer to it as “rightful thinking” and it has been a necessary and important quality for them in extending their average lifespan up to 900 plus years. For us earthlings handicapped with a limited lifespan and living on a planet with insufficient oxygen, its importance is even more so if we are to squeeze out any significant movement in our spiritual development during any given incarnation. And the importance of the application of these teachings to our daily life is why Jacob started this discussion string to begin with. I will take your suggestion/request to heart and hopefully others here on the forum will as well.
Regards
Bob |
Bianca
Member
Post Number: 47
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 05:02 am: |
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Hello Bob,
I am already counting the days... no pressure though, just an anticipation for something really wholesome to fill the mind with food for daily thought, something that has been missing from this forum for very very very long time!
Can I call on to all who have the German material but feel like what's the point here...? please re-consider! Because as time goes by, Billy's teachings are the 'bread' that we all seek! (as in the Spirit Prayer)
So thank you for your time and efforts! We all need and must move beyond the daily deluge of negativities, scare mongering and nonsense and so I would like to offer a logical suggestion: please switch off your TV boxes and other media outlets because all that we hear sinks into the un-consciousness and acts as 'reverse psychology'.
I wish you all good mental health! |
Getknowledge
Member
Post Number: 89
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 06:31 am: |
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Thank you for that Bob.
I never had really tried to associate my being with all the happenings in nature like that. Of course, the same workings of that force is working through us too.
Tien
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Getknowledge
Member
Post Number: 90
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 06:50 am: |
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Or should i say reflect my being.
Tien
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Phi_spiral
Member
Post Number: 475
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, January 02, 2010 - 09:04 pm: |
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Hello Bianca
You asked me previously in your post #45 above for more inspirational translations from the German material. And I am certainly happy to oblige. In the meantime I thought it incumbent upon me to also point out that spiritual progress is not solely nudged by the seeding of inspirational thoughts but it is also nourished in the mundane - in our daily work in fact. And why is this?
Billy explains in Introduction to Meditation that the three most important prerequisites for human progress in every respect are:
1. work
2. meditation
3. teaching and evolution
The work that the human being performs daily is not just a means for livelihood, but work is also the way to the inventive/creative and to creation itself. Work is not only the way to test inner values, but to a certain degree creates a natural balance for the human being. It serves as a solid connection-point and hold to the reality of the material world. When work is performed with an attitude for the creative then it can be as effective as meditation itself. For when humans gear their thoughts, concentration, will and action continuously towards the creative, they create love, become law - and order-filling and consequently evolutiv. And their psychic nature noticeably changes to a more balanced form.
This means in other words that any work/job should be carried out carefully as an offering in creative form without any desire or without any egoism in connection to it and in equanimity with the spirit, and with quiet calmness. The same strength, that has an effect in the person during meditation or as a result of meditation can be effective in any work, with the caveat that the human being learns to open these strengths and to use them. It should be clear then that work should not be simply done for personal profit but for the creative, the reward being the recognition of the creative strength within one’s own consciousness.
With respect to that, manual work is as valuable as any mental work, in that mental work and manual work must be done together or alternately in the same measure if a useful success is to appear in evolutiv form. No human being can be truly evolutiv without performing both forms of work, manual AND mental, alternately or together.
It is not in such a way that the person thinks during their work perpetually of the creative, of creation itself, their evolution and of their spirit, because by doing the creative work this process happens basically in the background of their mental consciousness and spiritual strength, the effect of which allows people to perform double thinking. This double thinking is based in the ability that one thinking works in the foreground while at the same time an internal thinking takes place which observes and always remembers the creative. This methodology of double thinking can bring great results for the person, even if it as a rule takes very long, often decades or nearly a whole life until it is really unfolded and can be brought to application. The absolutely ideal condition at work is for the material consciousness to concentrate casually on the certain energy of the spiritual strength from which a relaxing rest and calmness can be led over into the material consciousness. However, the anatomy of the material consciousness of the human being usually disturbs this balance of relaxing calmness and concentrated energy (intent). But if a person can achieve this ideal state of double thinking, any job they perform becomes effortless because they do this then in perfect joy and in the symmetry of balance. This then a person should always keep as a goal in mind that they may be able to work meditatively.
The above information can be found in Einführung in die Meditation and I hope you find it useful. Work and meditation are two absolutely equivalent means to realise the creative and to pursue evolution. Work and meditation belong together, just like the physical and the spiritual body. And hopefully others may be encouraged to see and carry out their everyday work in a fresh perspective.
Happy New Year!
Bob |
Bianca
Member
Post Number: 50
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 05, 2010 - 04:56 am: |
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Hi Bob,
Thank you kindly for your efforts. I printed your post above and read it a few times. Doing just that helps me focus on my own deeper thoughts that arise as I am reading the material, but if i wasnt able to do that, I would be in the dark.
I need to clarify something for myself: as I understand the Spirit is totally neutral always, it is the consciousness that creates all the effects we think and feel, so HOW can i create equanimity with the Spirit? this is a very long term project, so to speak! and our bodies are the mere vessels for the Spirit in this material life and all subsequent lives on the path to unification with Creation?
As I dig up various material, I come to the same conclusion time and again and that is, that the work we do is who we are, but its how we choose to experience the daily life is the main Objective and its a rather difficult burden when I cannot speak german, very frustrating!. I keep reminding myself that "everything begins with a single thought" then I find myself trying to correct the last negative thought I just dismissed....
BTW< would you mind dropping me an email: brecht777@gmail.com, thanks.b. |
Phi_spiral
Member
Post Number: 477
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 05, 2010 - 08:15 pm: |
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Bianca: "...as I understand the Spirit is totally neutral always, it is the consciousness that creates all the effects we think and feel, so HOW can i create equanimity with the Spirit? this is a very long term project, so to speak! and our bodies are the mere vessels for the Spirit in this material life and all subsequent lives on the path to unification with Creation?"
That’s right the spirit is totally neutral. So the objective is to emulate that neutrality through neutral positive thinking in our daily life.
Try not to be too harsh on yourself or expect too much too soon. You have already taken the first step by taking up the observant form. Relax. Even if we succeed every now and then in creating love, peace and rest in ourselves, we fall out over and over again from this state. To motivate ourselves over and over again daily, is a big challenge which we must accept as real peace work which is of benefit for ourselves and all people. If we do not succeed in smoothing the neck hairs which stand up at the mention of the word "Discipline", then we will always have big trouble in putting these aspirations into practice. We, the jealous guards of our customs, are all confronted, actually, with internal rebellious opposition or with lack of discipline. The fact that a person views a lot of things in the twilight of their own theories and prejudices creates in us a peculiar form of egoism which is hidden with a very fine toughness - hardly even discernible. A very strong, quiet striving is absolutely necessary if the person wants to develop qualities like steadfastness, patience, love, knowledge, wisdom and logic in them self. For this reason the person must create a strong and absolute aspiration to practice meditation and to recognize and to use only the logical. This also means that the person must escape their own self-centeredness and create modest self-giving in themselves and allow it to come to fruition. Real self-giving frees and expels the self-centered concentration peculiar to one’s own ego and self-centered points of view. Self-giving also releases the masquerade of our own interests and wishes which very often load the person down and hinder them from any evolutiv advancement.
It is also this egoism which allows us to hold on to our beloved personal drama, and the further we progress on the way of self-analysis, it will frighten us often how much we load and occupy selfish, unloved and complacent thought. Only absolutely clear recognition of our mistakes and weaknesses can help us evolve. The faster one admits to a mistake and does not look after some excuse the quicker one will repair. It would also be a mistake to load oneself needlessly with guilt complexes and to chew over old stuff again and again, because if a mistake was really recognized, then the thought should be only forward and constructive.
The duty imposed to us to the evolution of our spirit, to self-knowledge and self-analysis as well as also the duty to deny our over-indulgences may seem to the modern person of today, very hard to endure, and try to flee. However, at last we cannot flee, because we must position ourselves to the facts, to make the best of it and to aim to the creative-natural laws and recommendations.
Regards
Bob |
Vb28
New member
Post Number: 4
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 01:15 pm: |
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Memo00, redbeard,MC,J_rod7
thanks for your advice....
i will take all into considerations
sorry for the late reply
- The smarter you are the faster you become a Nazi.
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Vb28
Member
Post Number: 5
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 01:45 pm: |
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I had this thought in my head so I thought I’ll share it…just want to hear your thoughts on it...
...Still there is no point to our live (even if it is to become pure spiritual form) even that is our purpose
It is like looking at a hamster running in a wheel ( hence there is no point). Born learn die, reborn learn die...etc
- The smarter you are the faster you become a Nazi.
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Smukhuti
Member
Post Number: 162
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 12:53 pm: |
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Vb28,
quote:"...Still there is no point to our live (even if it is to become pure spiritual form) even that is our purpose
It is like looking at a hamster running in a wheel ( hence there is no point). Born learn die, reborn learn die...etc"
Becoming pure spiritual form is not the goal, it is just an effect of the cause, which is our spiritual progress. The goal is to contribute to the learning and (relative) perfection of the Creation.
Each life we live has its own plethora of experience, offerings for learning, opportunities for knowledge (to name a few) and that too in different circumstantial scenarios and social environment with different levels of spirit(form) evolution. So the analogy of the "hampster running in a wheel" is wrong.
Your signature phrase "The smarter you are the faster you become a Nazi." is really thought provoking. Is it a pun? Your thought? Any catchphrase I have never heard of? Anything else? Just curious about its significance.
Salome.
Suv
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Vb28
Member
Post Number: 7
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 10:20 pm: |
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Well my underlining argument is that there is no point to anything…even if there is purpose or meaning to it...
well about the signature... I stole the quote from Jacque F, basically people who are born with higher fluidal forces can understand things faster, now we know that human behaviour is defined by the environment..hence if you are born in Nazi Germany, you will understand the ideas faster
- The smarter you are the faster you become a Nazi.
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Markcampbell
Member
Post Number: 331
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, January 17, 2010 - 12:54 pm: |
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Vb ;
In any case , you are wrong ,and there is no point to your assertion . Your statement does apply to you . |
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