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    J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1193 Registered: 10-2007 |
Hi ED, Please provide the reference where you find this: ... ["The Spirit Levels HAVE prevented a numerous number of Spirit-forms NOT to incarnated."] Thang-oo ~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod | ||
Elreyjr Member Post Number: 141 Registered: 01-2009 |
Thomas, This is relative to your post at Creation Itself thread: Could you please help me understand that the personality/consciousness is important/necessary for the spirit so I could clearly see the difference, the way you see it, as compared from my statement that the personality is not important for the spirit because it does not have any? Jun My will be done | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 948 Registered: 03-2004 |
Jun the personality is necessary up until the point that we reach the Araha= t Athersata level because through our consciousness and physical senses is = the only way for the spiritual consciousness to gather any knowledge and wi= sdom.=A0 I recommend reading all of Jacob/Phaethonsfire's posts since he is= a spirit lesson FIGU member or at least was and his posts are in english b= ut contain a treasure of info on this subject and others.=A0 Search engine = is the way to go... patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com | ||
Elreyjr Member Post Number: 143 Registered: 01-2009 |
Thomas, When you say "we" do you mean the spirit? When you say "our consciousness and physical senses" do you mean the material consciousness (conscious and subconscious)? If your answer to both this questions is Yes, then your unverified conclusion "that the personality is important for the spirit" is questionable, IMHO? I opine you have not made it easier for me to understand your way of seeing the issue, sorry to be blunt. Re-reading the Jacob posts about the spirit is well taken. Been there and hope to do it as many times as possible for me as there is indeed a dire need to do it again and again as the previous ones are surely inadequate to completely internalize. Hope you can do it as well. But then again, there will always be unverifiable conclusion which one could draw and may indeed be different from how others would. "Trust" as oppose to "faith" and "belief"would come into full and necessary play. Peace, my Brother Thomas, Jun My will be done | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 949 Registered: 03-2004 |
Jun I have made it as clear as I can and Jacob has been clearer still.=A0 B= EAM has also stated what I have in response to you so at this point, I will= leave it to you to search further on your own.=A0 I can do no more.=A0 Goo= d searching!!! :-) patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com | ||
Elreyjr Member Post Number: 144 Registered: 01-2009 |
Thomas, I can understand and accept that you can do no more. I will be on my way. Cheers. Jun My will be done | ||
Marbar Member Post Number: 121 Registered: 12-2009 |
When saying the spirit prayer, how do some of you people perform it? | ||
Markcampbell Member Post Number: 485 Registered: 10-2008 |
Hi Marbar . In German language , with a thick accent , as if you were a native of the country , or at least an experienced traveller . MC | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1272 Registered: 10-2007 |
*** Hello Marbar All such Spirit prayers are personal with your own Spirit. This is one 'form:' "My Spirit which dwells within me," "Please hear the concerns of my consciousness," (Fill in with what is your concern. Thank your Spirit for the life you have) (your Spirit is always awake, everywhere you are, knows you better than your conscious self does) Close with an "amen" if you like, or simply say "So Be It" Peace *** ~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod | ||
Markcampbell Member Post Number: 486 Registered: 10-2008 |
I didn't mention Marbar , that it's not important what you say or what language , it's that you focus on your own spirit , rather your own material consciousness in this case . The My Spirit prayer is just the old form given by Jmmanuel . MC | ||
J_rod7 Member Post Number: 1273 Registered: 10-2007 |
*** Oh hear my Spirit Mine Rod and mine Staff shall be my comfort That I may walk in Peace the rest of my days So Be It *** ~~ TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE -- Find What You Seek ~ Rod | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 1001 Registered: 03-2004 |
The Cosmic E/M Life Energy Aura: According to BEAM in the Wissenswertes publications from FIGU, there are numerous different auras with each human being, each aura being different in nature from the others. He says that the aura which is able to be detected by the real Kirlian photography is always a bluish white and the changes in color are other factors overlaying the normal bluish white color. He says that the aura (from here on out I will just say aura instead of Cosmic e/m Life Aura) is the result of the cosmic life energy being converted from pure spiritual form to a materially usable form by the innermost consciousness, which is not the material consciousness, but rather the innermost consciousness from which the spiritual consciousness arises. The aura is the metabolized energy which, once converted, can be manipulated by the fingertips. He mentions that the physical body only acts as an antenna for the energy but that the conversion is achieved by the spiritual mass of the innermost consciousness. Later on in the paper, he says that the astral body animates the spiritual form as the spirit animates the physical body. Just as the physical body has a radiant vibration which is called fluidal forces (though they are multitudinous he says), the astral body which animates the spirit form also has its own radiant energy called the aura by us and it is that aura which can be captured, or rather detected, by the real Kirlian photography. He states that the aura is always a clear blue with a white corona but that the other colors we sometimes see in the corona are other factors overlaying the aura's true color. There is a lot of really interesting information in this document which I recommend all who are interested get and read. I read it some time ago and understood it fairly well, but recently things have clicked in my understanding that weren't obvious to me before so I thought I would "write it down" just to clarify it to myself. If you read the paper, you will see that what I wrote here seems verbatim in places but it somehow helps solidify my understanding to write things down in my own way. I think Marianne U. once mentioned the same thing in one of her lectures at the FIGU meetings... Take care everyone! | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 376 Registered: 06-2009 |
Thanks Thomas for the information on The Cosmic E/M Life Energy Aura. What about the aura that is consciousness dependant and not detected by Kirlian photography (that has lowest colour value of violet and pink)? Do you have any information on that? Salome. Suv | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 1003 Registered: 03-2004 |
> As I mentioned there are several types of aura but in Wissenswertes BEAM > mentions that the psyche affects the colors of the corona of the aura seen > with Kirlian photography. I am no expert on any of this but I will look > after work again tonight... | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 1019 Registered: 03-2004 |
Hi everyone, I have started another blog separate from my other one and it focuses on the details of the information in general from Eduard Meier. It is all about information from FIGU but it is not, for example, any of the books laid out in detail. It is more an internal discussion I am having with myself in order to explore ideas directly related to, and from, Mr Meier's information. Much of the info discussed will be specific and detailed but none of it will be in the form of long translations, etc. There may be little excerpts and things of that nature, but it is primarily a blog for my personal use as a sounding board. i would not even normally put a personal blog on the forum, but I am hoping that you guys and gals might contribute to it and make it something even better! By the way, I know there is already tons of info on the web, but much of what I will be discussing is what is widely available in english so I think it will be interesting for some. The address: creationdata.wordpress.com Thanks and please feel free to make suggestions and additions. My personal email address is listed on the other blog under Contact Me. :-) | ||
Mahigitam Member Post Number: 196 Registered: 02-2009 |
What do the plejaren say about the Non-violence movement started by Gandhi in india? i.e, if some nation/tribe occupies the other, is it good to fight back or to do fasting by torturing oneself by avoiding food & water(indirectly attacking the aggressive people's conscience) or to make peaceful protests without any violence & fasting... The real does not die, the unreal never lived - Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj | ||
Elba Member Post Number: 31 Registered: 03-2010 |
Hello everyone : I have been sending a copy of the Desideratums (translated to spanish from Figu-Spanish site to all my family in Peru. When I asked to my dad his comments about it ? He responsed to me that he has already hear the poem from Jorge Lavat (Mexican actor) Desiderata .. Intriged I went to the internet YOUTUBE and I hear Jorge Lavat -Desiderata which is the spanish translation of another Desiderata from Max Ehrmann (1920) I felt a little disturbed because I realized certains similarities with Billy's Desideratums .. I wonder if anybody knows when , or the circumstances of Billy's writing of Desideratums ??? Salome Elba | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 1376 Registered: 02-2000 |
Elba, This Max Ehrmann is already known by Billy. I forgot what Billy said about this book. It does have some truthful info in it if I remember correctly. My Website | ||
Phenix Member Post Number: 350 Registered: 07-2008 |
Salome, Elba. See: "Although this document bears the same name as the well-known DESIDERATA by Max Ehrmann (1872-1945), Billy's DESIDERATA contains a completely new and expanded text, which is not identical with the old work. [Desiderata = desirable and vital items]" Source: http://us.figu.org/portal/SpiritualTeaching/Desiderata/tabid/95/Default.aspx | ||
Elba Member Post Number: 33 Registered: 03-2010 |
Thank you for the info .. Salome Elba | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 1804 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Mahigitam.... Of course, what Gandhi conducted was an excellent manner to free his occupying country from the occupiers, but...to some point it did serve her purpose. If you studying what Billy has mentioned and related to the Spiritual Teachings, further, there is NO harm in Fighting Back!! One has The Right and within the framework of Logic, to Defend himself! Billy, even mentions, if One does not fight back...it would be similar to One not having a 'backbone'. [Which has always been my interpretation, also.] Keep in mind, that many Vegetarians(Gandhi being one) are very/too passivists due to not consuming the correct balance in their daily foods. They lack MEAT(; the needed proteins, etc), which should still be part of their daily diet, which can than bring them into the needed Equilibrium, of thinking, Logically, and 'down to Earth', as they say. Vegetarian minds, seem to 'drift' into a state 'lightness' in Mind/Psyche, due to the lack of MEAT consumption, and need to be GROUNDED(to Earth/Material matter realm/world). Thus: if there is a need....there is no shame to fight back! Consequences: Cause and Effect...will just take her role.....; still, within the framework of the Spiritual Teachings. Edward. | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 1037 Registered: 03-2004 |
Hello everyone, I have just posted an interesting bit on my blog which I gleaned from one of the contact notes. It is a short post to which I will probably add later since there is yet another contact report with the same topic mentioned: creationdata.wordpress.com Thomas | ||
Smukhuti Member Post Number: 385 Registered: 06-2009 |
Thanks Thomas. Salome. Suv |
