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    Sonik_01 Member Post Number: 130 Registered: 03-2006 |
Like I said, I encourage you to ask Billy himself. I would really like to hear a response form him on your question. Just look at: The Mission: Your questions to Billy - Answered, and post your question when it opens up in a few days. It would be interesting to hear what Billy says in rfesponse to your question. | ||
Gaiaguysnet Member Post Number: 968 Registered: 03-2004 |
Eine Geistform beinhaltet immer eine viel höhere Evolutionsstufe als das Bewusstsein und dessen Persönlichkeit. A spirit form always contains a much higher evolutionary stage than the consciousness and its personality. Das Bewusstsein ist immer den Umständen der Lebensform, deren Lebensbedingungen und ihrer Umwelt angepasst. The consciousness is always fitted to the circumstances of the life form, its living conditions and its environment. Dadurch wird verhindert, dass durch zuviel Wissen usw. ein bewusstseinsmässiger Schaden in Erscheinung treten kann. The emergence of damage to that which pertains to the consciousness through too much knowledge, etc., is thereby hindered. http://www.theyfly.com/gaia/meierv5p468.htm | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 379 Registered: 05-2008 |
Dyson, in regard to your above referenced translation of Contact 228, do you know what the subject matter of the photograph was/is? ============================================== http://www.theyfly.com/gaia/meierv5p468.htm "Indeed if you remember, I gave Ptaah a photograph about ten years ago, that I received from someone anonymously. Es war wohl im Monat November oder Dezember des Jahrs 1978 oder 1979 (Spätere Anm.: 117. Kontakt vom Mittwoch, den 29. November 1978, 15.12 Uhr, ab Billy ..., bis Ptaah, Sätze 98-118). It was, to be sure, in the month of November or December in the year 1978 or 1979 (later notation: Contact 117 on Wednesday November 29th, 1978, 3:12PM, from Billy ..., until Ptaah, sentences 98-118). Wenn ihr der Sache des Photos auf den Grund geht und alles erforscht, dann werdet ihr das Geheimnis zweifellos lüften. If you get to the bottom of the matter of the photograph, and research everything, then you will undoubtedly solve the secret. Eigentlich hätte es euch ja schon damals auffallen müssen, doch aus irgendwelchen Gründen - so vermute ich - habt ihr wohl trotz der Wichtigkeit des Photos keine Nachforschungen darüber angestellt und die Wichtigkeit auch nicht erkannt. It actually must have already been conspicuous to you at that time, yet for some reason – so I suppose – you have, indeed, in spite of the importance of the photograph, made no inquiries about it, and also not recognized the importance. Mehr darf ich aber zum Erklärten nicht sagen. But I am permitted to say no more as an explanation. Die Begründung dafür habe ich genannt. I have named the basis for that." | ||
Hector Member Post Number: 558 Registered: 04-2006 |
Hi Brunols you speak of "starting from zero" and losing (call it forgetting) what you laboriously learnt in your past lives. Well we living creatures are subject to the law of reincarnation, and one of the purposes of reincarnation is to "start from scratch", to start from zero. But do not be afraid, because everything you learnt in the past, every thought, feeling, memories or experiences are not "lost", they are not dissolved, forgotten or destroyed. All your past and present learnt lessons and vital experiences have been recorded and stored forvever. All what you learn in each lifetime is processed after death and integrated in the socalled storage banks. So, remember: Not a single thought, feeling, memory or leant lesson in any of your lifetimes will be lost, missed or destroyed. Then, you will ask, why is all information/material not accessible to you and me? Well it is. Not in a conscious way, but in the form of impulses. There's no way to recall all such information at will, at least not yet. All such information is at every moment accessible to you, but filtered through the subconsciousness. The subconsciousness limits the access to the storage banks. Why? 1) If we knew too much from past lifes we would become too lazy and evolution would be hindered 2) In order to prevent consciousness damage. Knowing what you did in past lives can lead to madness, insanity. I recommend you to read the following lecture by Mariann Uehlinger: www.theyfly.com/newsflash94/Lecture_for_GA_for_MH.pdf | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1940 Registered: 12-1999 |
Earthling, This may be what you are talking about:  Scott | ||
Brunols Member Post Number: 5 Registered: 02-2010 |
Hector: Thank you for the link and info provided, Your answers and the link you provided gave me more understanding of this unknown topic for me. I will try to research and get the full understanind of this wondelful part of my life that is unknown to my consciousness. | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 380 Registered: 05-2008 |
Scott, thank you very much. Very interesting, yet I must ask if you know what is written on the burnt parchment and in what language?  | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1941 Registered: 12-1999 |
Earthling, Here is a post I made in 2002 regarding the parchment: The script which Anthea refers to was a piece of brown burned paper found in one of the underground tombs in Egypt during a time trip that Billy took with Asket. Wendelle Stevens presented a picture of this parchment on Page 15 in his book Message from the Pleiades, Volume 4. During this trip Asket was able to translate some of the characters into German, but some of the others were in other Romance languages based on Latin according to Mr. Stevens. Later on with the help of Michael Hessemann the remainder of the text was translated. Here is the translation as Mr. Stevens presented it: "THERE WAS A PROPHET WHICH WAS THE PROPHET ENOCH WHICH WAS ELIAS WHO WAS AN IMPORTANT PROPHET OF THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD MOSES, WHO WAS A LEADER OF THE EARTHHUMANS AS ELIA, ISAIA, JEREMIAH, JMMANUEL, MUHAMMED AND BILLI. THIS SPIRIT WILL REINCARNATE AS A PROPHET WHO WILL BE BORN AS A TEACHER OF COSMIC LAW AND HE WILL ENTER THE HUMAN RACE AS ONE BILLI WHO IS ONE EDUARD MEIER WHO WILL BE A TEACHER OF THE SPIRIT. HE WALKS IN THE LIGHT OF SPIRIT...." If Im not mistaken you may also purchase a photo of this document from the photo collection which FIGU offers. Here is an additional note from Chrisitian regarding the parchment: Hi all, In the "Photoverzeichnis" we find the following explanation regarding photo #1059 = the parchment: "A Mr. Jim Crowley from England secretly photographed an ancient document (that is in possession) of a noble private collector, and he sent Billy photos and negatives and asked him, whether he, Billy, or the Pleiadeans/Plejarans could decipher the letters. According to his information the noble Englishman purchased the partially burnt document -- together with other specimens -- in Egypt decades ago. Billy immediately recognized the Old-Lyrian script which he still was able to master rather well, and therefore could translate the document into German with Ptaah's help. According to Ptaah the original document is more than 8.000 years old. Btw: At the 117th contact of November 29, 1978 (Semjase Block 8, in German), Billy showed the photos to Ptaah who then analysed one of it. Regards, Christian Scott (Message edited by scott on February 21, 2010) | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 381 Registered: 05-2008 |
Scott, much appreciated. | ||
Davidmg Member Post Number: 32 Registered: 03-2008 |
Scott; It would be nice also to have the mp3. As I am learning German and it would be nice to hear it. many thanks for your time DavidmG | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1945 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hello Davidmg, Do you mean a copy of the Spirit Prayer? If so please send your request to: solsystem7@gmail.com Regards Scott | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 1946 Registered: 12-1999 |
Earthling, Your Welcome, it is quite an interesting piece of information. Regards Scott | ||
Elreyjr Member Post Number: 113 Registered: 01-2009 |
Greetings Edward, I have noted you claim familiarity on may a subject such as your post over at the Planet Earth topic area. Could you by chance be able to share some other points of interest just like on the Spirit Lesson, which come in German only. Would appreciate tiny bits and pieces about it, if you may or on any other topics of special interest to you. Jun My will be done. | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 881 Registered: 03-2004 |
I am posting here since this information is from the spirit lessons contained in the book GENESIS mixed with other FIGU sources. I have had the most simple but amazing epiphany while reading GENESIS. I often felt as if there were more to sleep than just the resting of the body and it turns out there is a VERY big purpose in addition! As I read through the book, one section talks about how the spirit substance of Creation needs rest periods although the spirit within that substance (not to be confused with material substance) doesn't ever need to rest. Anyway, to get to the point, it goes on and eventually says that, just like humans need rest, Creation needs rest for certain reasons. It further mentions that the material part of Creation is paralyzed during the rest period in order for the unconsciousness of Creation to be synchronized with the consciousness of Creation since it also has both consciousness and unconsciousness forms like humans do. At any rate, it clicked that sleep serves the same purpose in humans! We have such noisy thought processes which are usually dominant during wakefulness (except in real mediation I assume) that the only way for our unconsciousness and/or subconsciousness to really bring the consciousness back in line with them is to reduce that noisiness altogether. Sleep serves that purpose apparently since BEAM states in the book that this process is the same in general for Creation and humans. So to summarize this incoherent post of mine, it seems clear to me that sleep, in addition to giving the body rest, is for allowing the material consciousness to be brought back into line with the other material consciousness forms (unconscious and/or subconscious). This also very clearly explains why a good rest (including actual sleep) has often yielded ideas to problems that people hadn't consciously been able to solve while working in a waking form. The subconsciousness and unconsciousness forms never sleep, thus they can really solve problems and transfer the answers to our consciousness through sleep :-) If anyone sees anything in the texts to contradict this, please chime in!!! :-) Have a great day everyone! Thomas patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com | ||
Calenwath Member Post Number: 8 Registered: 04-2010 |
The truth is so much closer than we realize is it not? Semjase's first contact with Billy expressly denounces ANY one or thing else that claims contact with the Pejaren. Glory be to Creation! Saalome Shane | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 986 Registered: 03-2004 |
Hello everyone. I am posting this here because I believe it to be a spiritual (consciousness-related) lesson that everyone learns. I am just learning it now so I thought I might share my perspective on it. Some of you may or may not know that I know Robyn, one of our moderators. I have had many long conversations with her about the spiritual teachings and FIGU, as well as other topics unrelated to those. During some of our conversations, she patiently helped me to understand some of the things that I was confused about and that she had a better grasp on. She always pointed out that these were her views and that they may or may not be correct. Whether or not she succeeded it clarifying a subject for me was usually dependent on how thick my head was at the moment and not on her abilities as a teacher or communicator. I am not smooching her bottom but these things should be said in order that what follows is taken in the correct light :-) Often when Robyn and I spoke, there would be something that wasn't 100 percent clear to both of us. Sometimes she would have an idea and some of those times, I felt she was on the right track while others I felt that something was a little off. More often than not, she was correct and I was just lacking in some info or in just plain old understanding. On more rare occasions I was correct :-D To get to the point of what this post is really about, I will just say that I have learned that, even though the help of others is very necessary and valuable, it is always best and most effective that we tackle our own questions ourselves to the greatest extent possible. As with the conversations between Robyn and me, she often expertly clarified the topic at hand while other times it was only by me going over and over a topic by myself did I succeed in getting a real understanding of it. This sort of happened too in another section of this forum when I tried to begin a conversation about learning from pure logic from first principles. The postings were not at all bad, yet the fundamental ideas get lost when there isn't a clear communication between all parties involved. It seems that the best way is often to really go over a subject oneself until clarity is achieved to the highest degree possible. Only then can one speak clearly on that subject and make sense to others. Again, using Robyn as an example (I hope she will not mind too much!), I often post questions to BEAM while Robyn tends to take her own questions and work through them on her own. While asking questions is not a bad thing, I think Robyn's example is one of greater value. Anyway, just to reiterate, this post was not to put Robyn on a pedestal. I only used her as an example because I know her and the forum members know her to at least a degree. In addition, she is the only person that I have ever really been able to discuss the spirit lessons with to any real depth so she really is the only person I could have used as an example, regardless of whether she is known to anyone here! Just as an aside, I would like to say thank you to Robyn here and also to tell the forum that, along with the other moderators here, you and I are all very lucky to be in good company with them... Have a great day everyone! | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 994 Registered: 03-2004 |
Hello again everyone. I am posting this here because I believe it to be a spirit lesson as well and I think it is an important thing to learn during our evolution. On the other hand, it is very personal to me so if you do comment, please be neutral and do not judge me since no one knows all the details. Though I have never killed anyone nor have I raped anyone or anything so terrible as that, I have done some really awful things in my life. To be sure, none of them was purely out of spite or hatred but usually out of being hurt or from lashing out when I felt attacked, though this wasn't always the case. As I look back at my life and all the horrible things I have done in the distant past, I am first confronted with pain, shame, regret and embarrassment about those occurences. Then I think of the consequences of those actions and it hurts me even more. I wonder how I can ever get past those things in my life that I wish so much that I could undo, but it isn't possible to undo them. I realized that the person I am now is fully formed, partly as a result of those past events, for better or for worse, but that I am no longer that person I was. True I am responsible for those actions of my past and true I am still the same "person" in terms of being identified as Thomas, but I am no more the same person now than a person of 100 years is the same as they were as an infant. BEAM has said that we don't remember our past lives spontaneously for many reasons, one of which being that we could not bear (at this point in our evolution) all of the things we would remember if suddenly we could call up those events consciously. I realized that part of evolution involves facing the past, unpleasant parts and all, taking responsibility for our own actions in those events, and then learning from the past but letting it go since it can never be changed again. This all ties in with another spirit lesson in my estimation: letting go of people while still loving them. I posted before on this subject but it is an important lesson that we all really have to learn eventually. It is something we cannot avoid on one hand, and on the other hand, learning to properly see and handle certain events, such as the physical death of our loved ones, is one way to lessen the pain we will all feel when those events happen. Even Mr Meier with all of his knowledge, wisdom, love and evolutionary level is not immune to feelings of loss by his own words and admission. But at the same time, excessive loading of suffering on ourselves is against our better evolution and well being. Of course mourning is natural, but feelings of loss should not overshadow the fact that once a person has died, they move onward and upward in their own evolution. If one looks at the death of a loved one in an unselfish way, thinking of their benefit instead of ones own, then death becomes something to celebrate as long as it has happened in due course of life and has not happened prematurely under bad circumstances. Even when death has occurred sooner than it should, it represents another step forward because all that was learned during that person's life will be processed to completion during their stay on the other side. The other side, or the death-life, is a state of peace and love and rest, though we are not conscious of it while we are there. To be honest, death is a time that in my opinion is a break from the difficulties of material life, though those difficulties are quite necessary for us. I don't want to make this any longer than necessary so I will leave this post at that. Every day is a new one and who you are now is not who you were before today. Don't waste the lessons of the past and don't repeat your mistakes once they become known to you... | ||
Hector Member Post Number: 591 Registered: 04-2006 |
Hi Thomas there are some chapters of my life that I'd like to change too. There were some episodes in which I treated girlfriends, mates and relatives in a quite despotic an mean way. Sure I'd like to eliminate those chapters from my life, but I can't. Thanks to Billy I have an explanation for my unbalanced and erratic behaviour. I let my emotions grow wild, without restriction, and that caused lot of troubles to me. Emotions according to the Figu dictionary, are long neglected feelings and thoughts that at a certain point do "explode" without prior warning. In my case anger, rage, jealousy and distrust. I let all those degenerate values grow in my thought world, it was just a matter of time that they would become uncontrollable and cause problems. To make things worse, I really thought that those destructive emotions were an intrinsic part of my personality, something I could not reverse because I wrongly assumed the personality was something static and unchangeable. Also, I looked around and witnessed that those values (anger, jealousy, rage etc) were quite abundant in our ill-conceived society, so they were perceived by me like natural values, standard patterns of behaviour, when they really aren't. There's a very negative idea floating in the air, induced by religious thinking, and it's that the human being is an evil, mad creature, it's in its genes and nature. Way too many people are fooled by this erroneous idea, and they perpetuate their negative behaviours because they consider "it man's nature and can't be reversed". Summing it up, bad habits, bad routines, long negleced feelings and thoughts, absence of selfcontrol, absence of goals in my life, errouneous assumptions....they all prevent a human being from acting as such. | ||
Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 523 Registered: 03-2007 |
Hector: "...I really thought that those destructive emotions were an intrinsic part of my personality, something I could not reverse because I wrongly assumed the personality was something static and unchangeable." So very true, Hector. As Billy puts in on page four of Macht der Gedanken: "Jeder Mensch gestaltet durch ureigenste Denkarbeit seine Persönlichkeit selbst, die ja identisch ist mit dem Bewusstsein." Every person forms by their very own mental effort their personality themself, which is identical with the consciousness. And earlier on page 2, he explains: "Das Bewusstsein muss durch stetiges Denken geschult werden, damit die Persönlichkeit des Menschen sich weiter entwickeln kann, denn Bewusstsein und Persönlichkeit sind zwei identische Faktoren." The consciousness must be trained by steady thinking, so that the personality of the person can develop, because a consciousness and personality are two identical factors. Regards Bob | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 1005 Registered: 03-2004 |
> Yeah Hector, it seems we all have things to work on :-) | ||
Lth Member Post Number: 69 Registered: 06-2010 |
Hello Robyn, I just recently went back over some posts on the forum on a particular topic, including your responses, and I wonder if during your studies of the spirit lessons, you might have gained any new insights on this topic. I am referring to the censor between the material consciousness and material subconsciousness (not to be confused with the censor on the spiritual side nor with the barrier between the material and spiritual sides). I am still unclear as to exactly what can pass through this particular censor and what cannot. I know that the subconscious is completely logical even if it can be fed incorrect information so I thought that maybe only logical info could pass, even if it was incorrect, but then a few other things occurred to me which made me doubt this idea. Can you shed any new light on this subject if you happen to have any new insights? Any help is appreciated as always :-) Sidenote: I will probably be unable to respond to any posts between August 4 and August 23 since I will be overseas and there is no internet where I will be staying. Have a great day everyone! Thomas | ||
Bodhran Member Post Number: 103 Registered: 08-2008 |
Hi Robyn, I also have a question based on a previous response to a post of Thomas: "Thomas This is my understanding. It is the psyche and the Gemüet that play the important roles here. If the psyche is balanced, then the 6th and 7th senses are available for use by the person via the Gemüet. If the psyche is not balanced, then the barrier between the two consciousness blocks (at the central consciousness) will be blocking access to these finer perceptions and transmission of these. This will mean that all one will have available to them are those perceptions from the 5 coarse material senses. As it is the subconscious in the spirit consciousness block that contains the data from all other incarnations, that data will not be available (as impulses) for the same reasons, and the person will only have the present incarnation data for use to steer themselves through their life. So, basically, if I am correct, then the influence of the spirit power, is through access to finer perceptions and transmission of same, via impulses from the Gemüet. In order for these finer peceptions to be utilized the psyche must be in a state of balance that enables it to receive and then transmit those finer impulses." My question is: If the psyche can be somehow balanced by an individual through meditation or other type of focused thought process could this account for some peoples perception of an enlightenment experience as access to the gemut is temporarily granted? I ask this as many people report types of cosmic connectiveness experience but attribute it to indian mystic type events "kundalini" ,"chakra opening" etc. Salome Tony. | ||
Indi Moderator Post Number: 525 Registered: 06-2006 |
........an enlightenment experience as access to the gemut is temporarily granted? I can't speak for other people's experiences, however, based on my own and what Billy has to say about these blissful type states, it might be important to distinguish between experiencing the harmonious state when the psyche is balanced and blissful states that are reported by some people. I personally have had both. The latter is obviously to me now, on reflection, a fabrication of my own desire to have one of these states. The former is far less of a fanfare! What one experiences when the psyche is balanced is a 'clarity' that could be described as a feeling of oneness or as you said connectiveness. When I achieve this, it is quiet and calm and is a feeling of contentment. It is not exciting or spectacular in the sense that is often described by those claiming kundalini awakening or chakra opening. Billy mentions 'Euphoric meditation' as being one of the wrong kinds, in his first meditation book. I am not sure if that section is translated anywhere. I will have a look at it and see if there is anything of note to mention. I am sure you are aware of Billy's comments about Chakras? Robyn |
