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Discussions on the topic of thinking and thoughts and how to achieve a state of neutral-positive thinking.

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Jacob
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Post Number: 192
Registered: 02-2013
Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2018 - 02:40 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Kenneth,

In response to your comment to my previous post "IMO, pure logic will not work for humans."

You proved your own point by mistakingly interpreting my words this way.

I never said pure logic, no material being is capable of using pure logic, only the high council and the pure spirit levels are capable of pure logic.

A human should always strive to be as logical as possible in accordance with the natural-creative laws and recommendations, but it will be absolutely impossible to be purely logical all the time.
In fact Billy also stated that illogic (making mistakes) is needed for evolution, not only in the contact notes, but also in the Geisteslehre. (He refers to the evolutionary form of illogic / making mistakes, not deliberate faults against the natural creative laws and recommendations).
Salome,
Jacob

As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
~ Socrates
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Kenneth
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Registered: 04-2013
Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2018 - 08:02 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Jacob,

Thanks for your response. Often it’s difficult (at least for myself) to get the correct meaning across in written words verses speaking face to face; voice inflections can say a lot.

When I said, “Regarding your statement ...logical thought, needs to be used (in accordance with the natural-creative laws and recommendations.)" IMO, pure logic will not work for humans.” Yes of course I proved your point; I was essentially agreeing with you and complementing your statement with additional information.

No misunderstanding on my part; thanks for this correlation of subject matter, I find it very interesting.

Sincerely
Kenneth
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Jacob
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Post Number: 195
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Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2018 - 04:20 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi, Kenneth,

We are here to share and learn, applies to me and you.
I also find it very interesting because this topic is very applicable in real life.
While some parts of the spirit teaching can not be applied in real life for a long, long time.

Personally I prefer the parts of the spirit teaching which I can apply directly in my life, in my thinking, feeling and acting, those parts yield direct results.

One small step at a time.

I regard items about JHWH, Srut, Ban-Srut, and the past lives of the universal-prophet, etc., etc., as theoretical and not relevant to life here on planet Earth in the year 2018.

At the most it is interesting to know, nothing more.
The spirit teaching principles you can learn, make part of yourself and express in real life in the so-called present are far more important.

This is my opinion and what works for me.
Salome,
Jacob

As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
~ Socrates
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Getknowledge
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Post Number: 209
Registered: 04-2008
Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2018 - 08:30 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Mandela Effect and faulty memory is somewhat related to thinking and thoughts:

When JFK was assassinated was there 4 or 6 people in the vehicle?
Tien
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Kenneth
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Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2018 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We know that when Billy passes, the Plejaren will leave. In the book, “And still they fly” Chapter 15, page 281, by Guido Moosbrugger,

In 1995 it was stated, “Until recently, JHWH Ptaah had been in charge of three planets: Earth, Erra and Alatides in the Harkonen System.”

Ptaah: Well yes, I must turn to other tasks.
Billy: What a shame. That means Earth will now be without a JHWH.
Ptaah: This is not quite accurate, for there still exist descendants of the old gods who will make themselves known. However, I can only share this information with you in confidence, if you are interested.

“Ptaah alluded to extraterrestrials who had settled on Earth in prehistoric times and who, unlawfully, had themselves revered as creators, while the people on Earth presumed that they were gods.”

Accordingly, that was 23 years ago, “descendants of the old gods will make themselves known”. Who do we have on Earth today that is pushing the envelope on various technologies, to include transportation on Earth and space, quantum leaps in solar, advanced battery operated vehicles, displays mortalities and compassionate service to humankind and spiritually attuned?

Intriguingly, Elon Musk said in a recent interview this year that he was of extraterrestrial descendants. When the interviewers jaw hit the floor, Mr. Musk said, just kidding.

Kenneth
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Kenneth
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Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2018 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Second to the last paragraph, “displays mortalities …” ...

should read morality instead of mortalities.

Kenneth
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 893
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Posted on Monday, August 06, 2018 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bill, Chris,

Excellent information on reincarnation cycles of the spiritform regarding associated technologies of the past relating to the present, thanks for re-posting.

Salome
Kenneth
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Indi
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Post Number: 811
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2018 - 11:35 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Please get back to the topic of 'Thinking and Thoughts'. There are posts in the queue that do not belong in this section and posts in these recent pages that also do not belong here.

The topic of Pi, and reincarnation info etc.. is not for this section.

Discussion ideas could be about the processes of thinking that can lead to adopting a neutral positive stance, found in Billy's books 'The Psyche', 'Might of the Thoughts', as well as others.

Thank you
Salome
Robyn
Be encouraged to think. Don't let others tell you what to think.Challenge things you read, hear and see, and then research it, test it. Then decide if you must, what to 'think' about it.
Think for yourself!
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 861
Registered: 04-2011
Posted on Friday, August 10, 2018 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Melissa,

I refer to your post (7) here as it refers to a different topic.

You are right, it was Ptaah who told Billy in CR 476 *) that mankind has the tendency to be “pathologically autocratic”, i.e. to be domineering, imposing one’s will onto others.

This indeed does prevents mankind from being truthfully creative, because this creativity is based on an equalised consciousness and to achieve this consciousness we should never intervene in the voluntary resolve of any life form **)

You are as well right that it may need a long time until the psyche of our planet changes. Until true science recognizes that our thoughts create a force field which affects all beings in the universe. IMO, mankind has to learn not blame others, realizing that doing so is the way to grow in love. That this all-encompassing love is a powerful force that uplifts man’s consciousness, allowing him to truly perceive – and create - in oneness, with himself, his planet and the universe …

It may be a while.
But we are on our way.

Salome,

Bill

*)
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/79.html#POST85032
**)
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/16031.html#POST85041
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Corey
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Post Number: 450
Registered: 10-2016
Posted on Friday, September 14, 2018 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Overcoming obstacles is a big part of the spiritual teaching. If you tell yourself in thought that you "cannot" then you are already defeated, because you will live out those actions as deeds.~

When you encounter resistance to your path, this is the gateway to developmental progress.~


Salome, Corey Müske. -"Kelch der Wahrheit"/"Goblet of the Truth"
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22:08: " Werdet ihr Menschen vom Unglück verfolgt und könnt ihr euer Leben nicht so harmonisch gestalten, wie ihr das gerne möchtet, dann vermögt ihr dies zu ändern, wenn ihr euch dem Einklang der kosmischen Ordnung und damit den schöpferischen Gesetzen und Geboten zuwendet und sie befolgt."

22:08: "If you human beings are pursued by the unfortune and are unable to form your lives as harmoniously as you would like, then you are able to change this if you turn to the consonance of the cosmic regulation and therefore to the creational laws and recommendations, and follow them."

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