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Scott
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Post Number: 2091
Registered: 12-1999
Posted on Friday, January 28, 2011 - 06:48 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Elreyjr,

There is no Akashic Records/Storage Banks available to a person once they have died. Here is a question I asked Billy a few years ago:


Hello Billy,

I am confused about something. Are the "Storage Banks" and the "Akashic Records" the same thing or are they different? If they are different, what is that difference.

Thank you

Salome
Scott

The term “Akashic Records” was used during the first years (in the seventies) because the people were able to somehow grasp its meaning. As more and more information was given, the correct term “Storage Banks” had to be used. “Akashic Records” (Akasha-Chronik) is a term that has been invented/used by Rudolf Steiner, meaning “World Conscience”. It is something entirely different from the storage banks.
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Scott
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Post Number: 2092
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Posted on Friday, January 28, 2011 - 06:52 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sauroman11

As I understand it, the "spirit" of an animal does not reincarnate into a human being and the human spirit form does not reincarnate into animals.

Scott
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Elreyjr
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Post Number: 215
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Posted on Friday, January 28, 2011 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Scott,

Thank you for your response and clarification.

May I, therefore, reiterate the idea that the description under this topic area be amended to replace the word "also" by "formerly" so as not to mis-lead.

Jun
My will be done

Jun, Your will has been done :-)

(Message edited by scott on January 29, 2011)
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Sauroman11
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Posted on Friday, January 28, 2011 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scott,
So about 7 billion people and probably me and you are extraterestrials?
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Scott
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Post Number: 2093
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Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2011 - 06:22 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sauroman11,

I could be wrong in this, but I recall the number of ET Spirit forms totals around 25 million, which includes those which are presently incarnated and those in between physical lifetimes.

(Message edited by scott on January 29, 2011)
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Elreyjr
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Post Number: 216
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Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2011 - 04:49 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scott,

Did you really mean "formally"? thanks a lot.

Jun
My will be done
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Jacob
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Post Number: 579
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Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2011 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The spiritform inside a human being will only incarnate into a human, never into an animal of any kind.
The human being is created in such a way that only a human spiritform can occupy and live inside a human.
The animal spiritform is an instinct-based spiritform, only developing in a natural way, adapting to its environment. Also the spiritform of a horse will only incarnate into its own race, never into a bird or dog, etc.

The human being is consciously developing him/herself in an self-aware manner.
When it is spoken of a human being, its always the spiritform inside a human-body during material life.

A person who has died is strictly speaking not a human, its a body, on the other side, an embryo before the spiritform settles in is not a human, its plantlike life.
After three weeks when the heart starts to beat its a human.
Salome,
Jacob

Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Bsnitkin
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Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2011 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone know if we have the same family members in our past lives that we have we us this time in the present? And, can one confirm the correctness of animal communicators message that our pets can come back to us through new body when they pass? Many thanks.
Betsy

Hi Betsy,
I have moved your post to a more appropriate topic heading.
Scott-Moderator


(Message edited by scott on January 31, 2011)
Betsy
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Earthling
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Post Number: 502
Registered: 05-2008
Posted on Monday, January 31, 2011 - 02:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jacob, can you please clarify the first part of your last sentence in post 579? I think the English punctuation is incorrect. I just don't quite get the flow.

"A person who has died is strictly speaking not a human, its a body, on the other side, .."
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Sitkaa
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Posted on Monday, January 31, 2011 - 07:12 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It kinda depends upon how close you are to your target family member, whether you are so alike in key ways that you will be born in proximity to each other or with the destiny of interaction in a following life. So, since you can't really do anything about it, and you really predict it one way or another, believe whatever makes you happy. In this case this little bit of belief won't hurt as long as you keep in mind that in the grand scheme of things we are all one family.

Howdy family member,
: )
Fur leben.
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Jacob
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Posted on Monday, January 31, 2011 - 09:26 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My apologies, English is not my native language.
I will clarify:

When a person has died, he/she is no longer considered human, its a body, a corpse, the unity of the spirit and the body makes the human is broken, if either part is missing its no longer human.

After conception, from the fertilized egg up to 3 weeks as an embryo before the heart starts to beat, the embryo is plant-like life, not human yet. From the moment the spirit enters the embryo, usually around 3 weeks, its considered human life since the unity of spirit and body exists.
Salome,
Jacob

Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Earthling
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Post Number: 504
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Posted on Monday, January 31, 2011 - 07:00 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jacob, thanks for clarifying.

One more: you said "From the moment the spirit enters the embryo, usually around 3 weeks,..."

Can the spirit enter the fetus much before or after 21 days/3 weeks? Is there a max and min after conception?
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Earthling
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Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2011 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jacob, women tend to sense they're pregnant around 3-4 weeks from conception; is there any connection between that sense/feeling and the spiritform entering the fetus?
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Indi
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Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2011 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

re sensing pregnancy:
from my own personal experience twice I have known I was pregnant, within 7 days from actual conception. I don't think it could therefore have anything to do with the spirit's entrance but more to do with the sensitivity to bodily changes of the mother!

Medical science knows that the heart begins to beat from 18-21 days after conception- so using logic and Billy's information it could be said that this is the only window for the spirit to enter -- and it requires the structure of the superior colliculus which must form at that time as well, before it can seat itself -- and the heart to be developed enough to begin to beat when animated by that spirit.

Robyn
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Jacob
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Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2011 - 01:47 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I honestly dont know Earthling, I think Indi's response is a very good one.
It's my thinking, as what Indi said about a womans sensitivity to her bodily changes is what makes her sense the pregnancy, due to hormonal changes and their effects on the nervous system, brain and psyche.
It seems very unlikely (however I cant rule it out), that a woman on this planet can sense the actual spirit entering, since that would require a very high sensitivity of the psyche and consciousness, not to forgot a neutral state.
Salome,
Jacob

Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Teesoft
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Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2011 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

doest anyone know if billy can help calculate past life or even next reincarnation?
Salome!

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Billy may have ways of doing those things, with the help of others, however, he does not encourage the discussion of these things rather to focus on what is now.

Robyn


(Message edited by indi on February 02, 2011)
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Markcampbell
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Post Number: 603
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Posted on Thursday, February 03, 2011 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

He has said before , that these days there are too many variables , so the calculation can no longer be made accurately .
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Joe
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Post Number: 142
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Friday, February 04, 2011 - 07:07 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Excerpt from Sitkaa Post Number: 429

"Karma is an overblown concept, not nearly so important as corporeal folks would like it to be. To SOME EXTENT the circumstances of one's next life can be manipulated, which is most easily reflected in the body characteristics one can strive for in the next life. Again though, this is a hit or miss thing. There are often circumstances unforeseen by corporeal folks which have to take precedence in choosing the next body type. There is no sure lunch, here - we are just striving to be the best we can be with the circumstances wherein we can fit. Anyway, concerns with karma usually center on how oneself got to be the way it is, and how to make it better in the next go-round."

End of excerpt.

Sitkaa, if I'm not mistaken, according to Billy karma doesn't exist. Billy, in a 1988 interview did however mention that it is possible to manipulate your next incarnation to be a heterosexual if in this life you are a homosexual or if you are a male in this life and want to be a male again or a female in the next incarnation.

However I'm not so sure how this programming for the next incarnation is done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdWcqGZ_dxE&feature=related
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Satorizero
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Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a question about Raelism. Rael states that there is no soul, but a storage bank of human dna/information and that upon death, the aliens can choose to bring you back based on your deeds....
whos right? I trust Billy, but this makes me think, because Rael says that the aliens told him....

EDIT by Jacob - Dear Satorizero, you would believe me telling you the sun is purple and a square because 'Goblins' told me? I recommend you buy the Talmud Jmmanuel and study the Spirit teaching, go to http://us.figu.org/portal/Products/tabid/88/CategoryID/1/Default.aspx
I am sure it will clear up a lot for you. Dont just believe everything, learn and think above all.


(Message edited by jacob on February 15, 2011)
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Hector
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Post Number: 643
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Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 06:18 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Satorerizo, Raelians are considered a dangerous sect by many people, including Billy and Figu. I recommend you to be extremely cautious and careful about that sect. And if possible, do not get involved with it.

Best regards.
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Jacob
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Post Number: 592
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Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 06:27 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Satorizero,

I agree totally with Hector, my response in your post was to make clear how dangerous some sects and illogical those sects are.
If you have questions about the spirit, the Creation, psyche, you are at the right place.
Salome,
Jacob

Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Joe
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Post Number: 145
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Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 07:40 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jacob, do you know if there is anything mentioned in the contact reports with regard to the Plejaren manipulating the spirit so that it remains in the fine matter world for a number of years before it is reincarnated again?
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Jacob
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Post Number: 593
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Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It has to do with spiritforms belonging to the Henoch-lineage some of whom are incarnated today on Earth to help with the mission.
The Plejarens are not capable of manipulating the spiritforms, that was the work of Arahat Athersata, the first pure spirit level.
Salome,
Jacob

Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!

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