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Eddieamartin
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Posted on Wednesday, July 10, 2019 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Helo Manuela,

I was happy to read that you are interested in knowing more about creations laws. The laws of the Creation has other names, for example; spiritual laws, spirit teaching, the teaching of the prophets, the laws of nature. These laws are in the Goblet Of The Truth.

Billy, in his wonderful generosity, made the Goblet Of The Truth available for free.

By learning and adapting the laws & recommendations of the Creation, we are able to control our fate.

Here is the link: https://www.figu.org/ch/files/downloads/buecher/figu-kelch_der_wahrheit_goblet-of-the-truth_v_20150307.pdf
Salome,
Eddie

In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Manuela
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Posted on Wednesday, July 10, 2019 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thank you kenneth.
i always believed on the existence of a supreme being( the almighty) or the creator, and as an african,we practice our ancestral culture.we often use our ancestor like link with that "almigthy" to protect and have mercy on us. this is our way to be in contact with the" creator"
now i'm confuse about what billy says.
where do we make mistake in our way of believing?
could you please explain it to me?
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Cpl
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Hi Aristea,

The spirit never lessens or becomes less. The spirit of the individual is inviolable. It does not split -- except from Creation itself to then inhabit a human body. The spiritual teaching is quite clear about this.
Our increase in population is due to people having more and more babies, and when there are too many for a planet to properly support, a general dumbing down together with other degenerations occurs.
Chris

Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Patm
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Posted on Thursday, July 11, 2019 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The following is only my person recommendation for:
1) Introducing a young adult to their purpose in life …

FIGU recommends that a young adult be at least 13 years of age WITH their parent's permission before introducing them to the FIGU material.

My recommended place to start would be for them to read a FIGU Open Letter written especially for them. This can be found at:
https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=2a_BOQs5Ga4%3d&tabid=1178&portalid=0&mid=4213

Allow them to read this on their own and at their own pace. Once they are done reading the Open Letter and have had time to think about it, let them make the decision to learn more on their own (DO NOT make that decision for them). They will let you know if and when they are ready.

2) Introducing a new student to the FIGU Material (Where to start) …

Many questions will come up and from those many more will arise. ALWAYS answer with the reality and its truth as you know-it-to-be and only enough to truthfully answer the question submitted to you. Do NOT share more than has been asked for/about because when they are ready they alone will know their own level of current understanding and the question to ask. Do not attempt to explain something with your assumptions, this could cause much unnecessary confusion. If you don't know, just answer, "I need to do further research so I can answer that question for myself. Then I will point you to where you can find the information in order to learn your answer for yourself.". Afterwards more questions will come and as the questions transition into discussions ... then you both learn from each other.

What the student asks is their right to know the truth about ....... whatever ... their honest inquiry needs a direction for them to find out for themselves. You cannot and never will be able to give them their answers. These have to be worked out by them for themselves just as you have to work out your own answers for yourself!

One of our groups primary FIGU-based mission fulfillments is to provide, for all those who follow us, a place to study on their own ...

A student's progress should not ever be limited by another person's understanding in how they worked out a situation (in thought, feeling or action or even as a "What if ...?" ). At best you can give them a pointer to where to find their own answers to questions they have when they are ready to ask the questions you cannot answer.

Only when they let you know they are ready, start first with who/what your source of information is ...
"FIGU in a Nutshell" is just what its title suggests ...
https://www.creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=zVYAOLBXVHM%3d&tabid=235&portalid=0&mid=1314

Once the student reads about what FIGU is and isn't, then time must be taken for the individual to begin the process of working out of the thought impulse generated for themselves.

FIGU Switzerland setup their Swiss-German website to provide a seeker-of-truth, the core information about FIGU

Their entire website has been translated to US-English by our group and is available at:
https://www.creationaltruth.org/FIGU.aspx

The fundamental information on the following major topics is explained by FIGU on their website, correspondingly it has also been translated on our website into US-English:

FIGU Society - see: https://www.creationaltruth.org/FIGU.aspx#FIGU-Society-92https://www.creationaltruth.org/FIGU.aspx#FIGU-Society-92

Spiritual Teaching - see: https://www.creationaltruth.org/FIGU.aspx#Spiritual-Teaching-231

Ufology - see: https://www.creationaltruth.org/FIGU.aspx#Spiritual-Teaching-231

Overpopulation - see: https://www.creationaltruth.org/FIGU.aspx#Overpopulation-233

The Reference Library contains a listing-breakdown of FIGU's entire catalog of articles, BEAM Portal entries, books, booklets, periodicals and general reference material. See: https://creationaltruth.org/Library.aspx#Library-Contents-6

There is also a powerful search engine on our website which you can search both for German and/or English words or phrases.

The idea of this website (https://creationaltruth.org) was a place for an individual to search on their own for information on how to work out for themselves their own answer and/or resulting next question. It should be left up to the individual to set their own pace of study, when they are ready only they will know, and what they are seeking. Only they will be able work out the knowledge themselves for themselves. Only in this wise will they actually be able to use this knowledge in their everyday life as they then acquire the essence of wisdom for use in their thinking-feeling-acting processing of impulses. This will in-turn ... be as only they decide for themselves, because it is their own free will which enables them to learn.

Beyond that always, as said before, ALWAYS answer the new student's questions with the reality and its Truth as you know-it-to-be and only enough to truthfully answer the question presented. Do NOT share more than has been asked for/about as when they are ready they alone will know their own level of current understanding and the next question to ask. In other words don't attempt to give them the answers to questions they are not currently capable of processing.

Some final recommendations:
regarding the Death-Life (reincarnation/incarnation process) please review the drawing: https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=0biaVJREz9M%3d&tabid=305&portalid=0

and to understand the Nokodemion Lineage/Genealogy see: https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=oWCsxKBWnDA%3d&tabid=305&portalid=0

and finally to understand our purpose in life please read: https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=obcm1RtS0_0%3d&tabid=235&portalid=0

These are my personal recommendations. Hope these help.

Salome,
Patrick McKnight (patm)
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Kenneth
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Hi Manuela,

You are very welcome. Most in this forum were raised in one religion or another; to see beyond this can be very challenging, but once you open the door to the truth you will recognize so much more Truthfulness and Honesty.

Once a person understands that religion and politics are all about control; in other words controlling the general public, the vail will be removed, so to say. YOU must be in control of your own destiny, not someone controlling your future for you.

Here are a few sections from Billy Meier’ book Arahat Athersata, Page 20, section 46. /…/53.

46. A human beings of the truth knows no
prejudices, because a preconceived opinion
hinders the searching and finding and the
honesty.

47. The human being of truth knows very precisely
that all truth and wisdom lie in the timeless flow
of the endless duration, so no preconceived
opinion finds the entitlement in the existence.

48. Only facts of the truth can be facts of the
wisdom, but not anything else which is arranged
below it.

49. This is a low in the great course of all
occurrences, for every existence must complete
itself in the circle.

50. Cause and effect find their validity in all areas
when they are arranged according to laws and
recommendations.

51. A preconceived opinion harbors within itself all
unlogic of the doubt and untruth.

52. And as a human being therefore approaches
and takes in these transmissions, then he/she is
beyond the state of preconceived doubts and
criticism or whether prejudices are still able to
dominate him/her.

53. If he/she, however, is still befallen by
preconceived opinions, then it is better for them
if they set aside this message and leave it to
those who are able to search for the truth free of
prejudice.

You will soon get beyond the confusion, this is normal because many of us human beings were raised to believe in a god, a supreme being, the almighty, etc., etc. All of which we have never seen and never will. The truth of the matter is that gods, tin gods, idols, saints, deities, angels, etc., do not exist. This may be difficult to understand at first. This is all about control.

I totally understand when you said, “…we often use our ancestor like link with that "almigthy" to protect and have mercy on us. this is our way to be in contact with the" creator"…”. The Truth is, no dead ancestor can protect you; no Supreme Being or almighty god can protect you or HARM you; this is a myth in order to control your thoughts and your actions. You need to be in control of your own thoughts and actions.

The Truth is that once a person (ancestor) has died, their Spirit (Spiritform) leave their body and resides (stays) in the beyond for about 1.52 x (times) their age at death before their spiritform will re-embody in a newly procreated human fetus on the 21st day after conception. For instance, if a human being dies at the age of 50 years; 50 x 1.52 = 76. This means that this persons Spiritform ONLY will enter a new human fetus around 76 years after death; this will vary a little today due to overpopulation. So, when a person dies in 2019 for instance at the age of 50, their spiritform will re-incarnate around the year 2095, 76 years from now. They will have no knowledge of their past life.

To be clear, it is the same spiritform, not the personality or soul. A person’s personality and soul dissolves after death. Once a person has died, and truly dead, they absolutely cannot be brought back to life. If someone sees a person that appears to be brought back to life, they truly were not dead!

In the Christian religion, it’s said that Jesus (Jmmanuel) arose from the dead. The Truth is that he never died on the cross; he only appeared to be dead; this is a known fact! This is religions attempt to control the masses.

You said, “where do we make mistake in our way of believing?” The definition of belief: An acceptance that a statement is true or that something exists without proof.

Dear Manuela, this article is already getting too long, I’ll stop here and wait for another one of your questions.

Sincerely
Kenneth
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Kenneth
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Posted on Thursday, July 11, 2019 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Manuela,

Trust your own instinct and allow yourself to think for oneself. Also, as a recommendation, when you start studying the Spiritual Teaching and discover the Truth; you will have the urge and excitement to tell many folks about your discovery. Be very careful with this, those that still deeply believe, or those of various religions or sects could most likely attack you verbally or even physically.

From the book, “The Way to Live”, page 446, Section 493:
“Billy”, Eduard Albert Meier. Aka BEAM

When someone comes under the influence of misled and misleading human beings as well as of wrong points of view and false-cognitions, and so forth, he/she loses not only all of his/her merits, which he/she has achieved in his/her life, rather he/she also destroys his/her own decision-making capability and blocks his/her freedom. Therefore, may one never fall, either voluntarily or involuntarily, under the influence of those who are misled and misleading. Wrong viewpoints, misguidance and wrong convictions lead to dangerous manifestations of all terrible things from which the human being, once he/she has fallen into these, is barely able to free himself/herself again through his/her own power. To be heeded in association with this is that, as a rule, misled and misleading human beings are struck by unknowledgeness and are often devious, consequently, they cannot be labelled dull and simple-minded. Also passive and lack of intelligence is not characteristic of them – quite the contrary; they are as slippery as eels, supple and cunning, they know every trick in the book and are downright geniuses in the game of the deception of the fellow human beings. Therefore, caution is recommended concerning them, because their misguidings are very dangerous, because they erode the truth and impede evolution. Consequently, unknowledgeness is not harmless, rather, it is a factor of the irrational guiding, of going into the unreal and of the destruction.

Kenneth
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Kenneth
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Posted on Friday, July 12, 2019 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Patm,

Thank you for this. For whatever reason, I did not know that:

1) Introducing a young adult to their purpose in life …
2) Introducing a new student to the FIGU Material (Where to start) …

was available. This is so very helpful.

Thank you

Sincerely
Kenneth
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Manuela
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eddieamartin,
thanks for the link, i will go and read it
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Eddieamartin
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Posted on Monday, July 15, 2019 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Manuela,
You are very welcome.
Here are YouTube videos of Christian Frehner presenting on the spiritual teaching you will find in the Goblet of the Truth.
Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgp6WsIYJW0&t=397s
Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S0DktiFd-k

Here you can find other topics and video presentations.
https://www.youtube.com/user/FIGUCANADA/videos
Salome,
Eddie

In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)

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