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Edward
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Post Number: 1587
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Friday, December 25, 2009 - 01:19 am: | 
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Hi Smukhuti.....
First of all, just a spell/word correction on my previous posting:
'Transcending', which should be - Transition -. [But, I think you may SEEN
through the error?]
Well, as far as I can make out is: that the Twilight Sleep(/Slumber) continues
till Creation Creates, anew(?); your mentioned Next Higher Level(: semi
transitional processing, perhaps?). And think, that there will always be a
portion/region of Creation that will manifest in such manner till it is time
for that concerning Slumber segment/region to Awaken...and be utilized, for
further Creational purposes/Createtivities(?).
What does come into mind is: Creation Expands and Contracts 6-7 times before
she achieves her next Evolution Level. Perhaps, this can contribute to your
question?
So, I do not know WHAT your definition is of: Next Level?
The Evolution Level?
Edward. |
J_rod7
Member
Post Number: 1136
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Friday, December 25, 2009 - 08:21 pm: |
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WhatEVER IS "The Evolution Level?"???  
Ain't no such "level" in any of the Teachings.!!! 
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TRUTH finds WISDOM finds LOVE finds PEACE
Find What You Seek ~ Rod
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Smukhuti
Member
Post Number: 145
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Friday, December 25, 2009 - 11:58 pm: |
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I was actually referring to the second level of Universe out of its 1049 levels/steps of existence till it become Absolute Absolutum.
We are in the first and lowest level/step when it exists for 3,040,000,000,00 years. When our Universe goes into sleep period, it will remain so for 3,040,000,000,00 years and then it will awake for sevenfold longer time, i.e. 21,280,000,000,000 years. And so on...
Anyway, I got the answer of my original question from Shawn.
Salome.
Suv
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Edward
Member
Post Number: 1593
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, December 26, 2009 - 02:01 am: |
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"SEEK...and you will find", as a wise man once, said!!  |
Rarena
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Post Number: 552
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, December 26, 2009 - 07:47 am: |
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Evolutionary levels are indicated in the title of this section of the forum: Petale and Arahat Athersata... |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 1594
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, December 26, 2009 - 09:37 am: |
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Hi Smukhuti....
Yes, we are in the lowest level; am familiar.
Well, yes...that does make sense. The sevenfold calculation; speaks for
itself.
And of course, good that Shawn could help out; would agree with his choice.
Was NOT 'pointless' after..all....
Edward. |
Smukhuti
Member
Post Number: 281
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 08:43 am: |
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Finally got the reference which confirms that somebody called UHK was given the 10 commandments by Petale.
In http://www.lanzendorfer.ch/Artikel_Daten/wassermann_artikel13.htm , Hans writes that in 1933 a book was published Philipp Veit (father of Karl Veit, who is considered as the father of modern ufology) whose title read
DECALOGUE
New explanations of the Holy
TEN COMMANDMENTS OF GOD
or
sacred love of our Heavenly Father's will
And in the Introduction was written "Received from the Lord through UHK, in December 1902 to Jan 1903"
In the same article, it is also mentioned by Hans:
Wie schon im alten Testament durch Moses, das elfte und zwölfte Gebot unterschlagen wurde, hat auch in der Niederschrift im Jahre 1902/03 die Empfangsperson U.H.K. diese beiden letzten Gebote nicht aufgeführt und einfach weggelassen.
As in the Old Testament through Moses, the eleventh and twelfth commandment was embezzled, also in the transcript in the year 1902/03, these last two bids did not appeared and receptionist UHK simply omitted them.
Salome.
Suv
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Mizarcubed
Member
Post Number: 8
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2010 - 03:53 pm: |
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Salutations,
Can a correlation between the petal of a flower and the petale level be made, aren't both the edge????? |
Ufoman
Member
Post Number: 16
Registered: 03-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 - 08:33 pm: |
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Once you reach Arahat Athersata? What do you do there? |
Markcampbell
Member
Post Number: 636
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Friday, April 15, 2011 - 06:48 pm: |
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further learning , mutual teaching each other in spirit collective |
Matt
Member
Post Number: 175
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2011 - 10:30 pm: |
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Hi mark,
What do you mean by "mutual teaching each other in spirit collective" |
Markcampbell
Member
Post Number: 638
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Monday, April 18, 2011 - 12:49 pm: |
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Hi Matt ;
Each spirit form in the AA is from a seperate lineage ( as in Billy's case , who started as Nokodemjon).
The individual spirit forms gather as a "We-Form" collective which is closed to outside spirit forms , either lower or higher in evolution .
Those individual spirit forms in the collective are teaching each other , exchanging information with each other .
Therefore , the individual spirit forms are "mutually teaching each other in a spirit collective" .
As clearly as can explain it . I don't understand the specific subject any more than that . |
Matt
Member
Post Number: 178
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 18, 2011 - 09:11 pm: |
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Mark, thats ok, that'll do. thx. |
Ufoman
Member
Post Number: 25
Registered: 03-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 02:42 am: |
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Say what? So what do you do when reach Arahat Athersata? |
Eddieamartin
Member
Post Number: 175
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 10:34 am: |
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Hello Ufoman
(re;Post#25)
In your personal studies, have you come across the difference between our spiritform now and when we reach the Arahat Athersata?
Excellent question my friend, but it does require a certain foundation in order to comprehend the answer fully.
Do you have the Talmud Jmmanuel in your possession yet?
Salome,
Eddie
[7:-)
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Rarena
Member
Post Number: 674
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2011 - 01:48 pm: |
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Arahat Athersata: Contemplate the times... as in the one (group) who contemplates time. |
Mahigitam
Member
Post Number: 423
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, October 08, 2011 - 10:22 pm: |
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Are the spirit-forms in AA level(upto Petale), from all different dimensions in the universe ?
If they are, then how do the OMEDAM spiritforms come together with non-OMEDAM spiritforms ? Or is that Omedam & non-Omedam spirit-forms come together in separate groups in AA level ?
Beware the fallacies into which undisciplined thinkers most easily fall--they are the real distorting prisms of human nature - Francis Bacon
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Jacob
Moderator
Post Number: 744
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, October 09, 2011 - 06:02 am: |
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All spiritforms in the pure spiritlevels, are Omedam spiritforms (law in fullfillment), regardless from which space-time dimension they originally came.
There is only a difference in AA in the evolutionary levels of spiritforms, just like in all other pure spiritlevels.
Salome,
Jacob
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Mahigitam
Member
Post Number: 429
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 09:18 pm: |
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So Jacob, all the conscious-evolutionary spirit-forms comes under OMEDAM...and there are no non-humanoids that have conscious-evolutionary spirit-forms..?
Beware the fallacies into which undisciplined thinkers most easily fall--they are the real distorting prisms of human nature - Francis Bacon
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Jacob
Moderator
Post Number: 750
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Friday, October 14, 2011 - 04:08 pm: |
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That is exactly what it is, only OMEDAM lifeforms have a conscious-evolutionary spirit-form, all life that does not conform to OMEDAM (Law in fulfillment) has an instinct-spiritform which is not capable of perfecting itself like humans can.
Salome,
Jacob
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Redhalls
Member
Post Number: 19
Registered: 03-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2011 - 11:04 am: |
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Hi,
Just curious, is it fun to be part of AA or Petale. I mean what do they do anyway? To me it seems boring.
Also creation evoloves 10 to the 49th power, yet only the first "level" it has a material universe, so there at least it can do something like watch us evolve, so what's there to do all the rest of the time (in those other 10 to 49 levels? (not to mention the Absolutum forms where too as far as I know they're just pure energy, so what does pure energy does anyway?
Sometimes I think it's better down here fishing than up there doing nothing.
Thanks,
Karl |
Jacob
Moderator
Post Number: 803
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2011 - 12:59 pm: |
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Hi, Karl,
I think you take it from a very human perspective, especially your mention about fun.
The pure spirit levels of Arahat Athersata and up spend their existence in pure knowledge, harmony, wisdom, love, truth, power and evolution, next to that, we do not have a clue what they do so to assume that its boring is absolutely off the mark.
For example Arahat Athersata is directly responsible for providing evolutionary impulses to the universal storage banks of which ALL human life benefits, usually unconsciously but when evolution permits also consciously (tapping into the storage banks, and drawing information)
Salome,
Jacob
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Mahigitam
Member
Post Number: 467
Registered: 02-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 03:55 am: |
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Hi Jacob, from where did the spirit-forms that reached the first AA level, got their evolutionary impulses when they were in material life ?
If evolutionary impulses are not a required thing, then these first spirit-forms to AA level must have faced a hard task..
Beware the fallacies into which undisciplined thinkers most easily fall--they are the real distorting prisms of human nature - Francis Bacon
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