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Corey
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Post Number: 108
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 06:56 pm: | 
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One question I always had was when the criminal is banished for a life duration and then dies on the Massnahmeerfüllungsort (let's say an island for example) how do you put the criminal's spirit form back into the reincarnation cycle there would have to be a way to have babies be procreated on the island...?
Salome
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Hawaiian
Member
Post Number: 34
Registered: 05-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 03:57 pm: |
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A criminal mind is often reinforced by “positive” feedback, which equates to negative responses from their victims. For example serial killers and rapists derive extreme pleasure from the suffering of their victims, it’s a power lust adrenaline “rush”, like some drug fix these degenerates get when others suffer and die on their behalf.
The same goes to ET’s like that insane IHWH who destroyed and created the Crab Nebula or the evil Giza Intelligences banished to that prison planet millions of light years away who still harbor destructive mindsets to again attempt in assassinating Billy with the help of Brazilian former nazi group who hijacked a spaceship and created a negative discharge lightning bolt that burned part of Billy’s arm.
From what I gather, the imprisoned Gizas concentrated their evil thoughts into some crystal and used the spaceship to discharge its negative energy towards Billy. Apparently either the Plejarens did not know about this or they let it happen in order to catch those involved with the Giza plot?
What I’m concerned about is that all the Gizas passed away in the late 1990’s, so judging from their pass actions, it appears that they have not learned much and their spirits are in the ether, awaiting reincarnation, which is much more dangerous than being alive and subjected to “treatment”. Just letting these evil ones live off the remainder of their life on a desolate planet is not the right path and they should be punished severely, especially so their cohorts who planted that dooms day bomb that would have wreaked unimaginable destruction in the DERN universe.
There are still other ET’s with evil intentions who would use any means to not just control Earthly matters, but use it to control much of the universe as well as it’s inhabitants are linked to other space/time/dimensions because of their origins which theoretically can be impulsed by manipulating the subconscious to react in defensive action to the material conscious.
Sometimes one has to become a criminal to intimately know their mindset in order to find the “right” solutions, which we sometimes look in disgust because of its negative actions. Just like in war, the environment lowers humanity to act like barbarians in their quest for survival which only results in three outcomes, total destruction of both parties, logical reasoning to end the conflict or intervention from a higher intelligence |
Darren
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Post Number: 302
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 05:43 pm: |
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How could stealing food from someone else in order to feed your family be ok and not considered criminality according to the spiritual teachings? That don't make sense. What about the victim(s) who had thier food stolen (by someone trying to feed their family) and who not long after victims all starved to death???? Where are their rights?
I consider all forms of theft as criminality.
I remember Semjase saying (if ww3 happens) something along the lines that "if someone even steals a loaf of bread, they will pay for it with their life"
If WW3 happens and someone tries to steal my food that I had stored up, they will pay for it with their life if they gave me no other option. I am talking about people trying to steal food from within my house and not in my backyard garden. If fact, if WW3 happens, and if i catch someone inside my house, I immediately have to assume that they are there to steal and could be armed. I won't wait for a weapon to be drawn. I'll shoot first and ask questions later. |
Edward
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Post Number: 2334
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 01:58 am: |
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Hi Corey....
I would think, that when the criminal individuals dies, the Spirit-form would
just reincarnate into its 'compatible' incarnation environment.
Thus, in any country or continent. Not, per se reincarnating on the island.
And, if there would be a child or children born on that island, I think they
would reincarnate within the same procedure: compatibility processing.
Unless, the males and females are put separate and which no offspring can be
generated.
Edward. |
Edward
Member
Post Number: 2335
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 01:46 am: |
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Hi Darren....
I understand your point.
But, remember, that Semjase was referring to the WW3 scenario when
government issues: police, military, etc., catch you in the act of theft.
And if you have food that might be stolen: you do have to keep in mind, that you
can still....only, shoot in defense.
We must make clear distinction, here.
If there is a rioting of people/crowd trashing your home, you can defend your
family and yourself...by first 'warning' them, and than defend yourself. And
see what that results into.
And, if it is only, a couple of individuals, you may want reason with them and
share your food, I would think? [Billy does make us clear: that we treat each
other like humans....; let us not forget this (human) quality, in us.]
Thus, the situation(s) becomes circumstantial.
Edward. |
Corey
Member
Post Number: 109
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 07:23 am: |
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Hi Edward,
I thought a spirit form only reincarnates on the continent or land tract that it dies on. Thus the spirit form cannot switch continents or in this case couldn't leave the island but would have to reincarnate there...
Salome
Corey |
Davidmg
Member
Post Number: 106
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 05:23 pm: |
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Corey;
Spirit forms are bound to a planet, not to any region, island or continent and are not guaranteed to reincarnate in the same place as the last life-form was. There are very few that will reincarnate near where they now. Spirit forms may reincarnate closely to other Spirit forms that have similar evolutional/spiritual vibrations / frequencies. It is a simple matter of like attracts like. Same as when an ethnic person will search out their same ethnic people with in cities or other countries.
Davidmg
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Teesoft
Member
Post Number: 113
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 03:57 am: |
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And i think overpopulation is has disturb this law also which make ppl incarnate where they dont belong! just a thought.
Salome,
Tosin |
Stephen_moore
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Post Number: 302
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 10:25 pm: |
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If the earth humans did not fight degenerate wars and also responsibly reduced the population there would be no need to steal food.
Wouldn't that be more inline with Creational Recommendations than fighting wars and overpopulating, thus having to steal food.
Salome
Website addresses - www.ufofacts.co.cc - www.thecircleforhumanity.net
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Magdalena
New member
Post Number: 1
Registered: 03-2012
| | Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2012 - 05:27 am: |
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Hello Everyone.
I am new here, so I hope you'll excuse me, if I do something wrong and please don't hesitate to tell me what is the right way to take part in this Forum, if I seem to need it 
I'm having very difficult issue in my life right now and I hope you can give me some reasonable advice.
Here is the thing: my husband (for 5 years now, no children yet, though I'd love to have one in a year or two) wants to make relationship with another woman as his second wife. She is single. She is his friend now, not a lover. He wants us all to live together, but doesn't think it's possible because of her monogamic-and-religious-point-of-view.
I am familiar with the Law of Creation, which says, that men can have a few wives. I want to help my husband, because he really wants this woman to be a part of our family and she's in love wiht him, too. I don't want him to be forced to make the choice beetween me and her. The situacion is much more difficult for him, than for me.
Is polygamy even possible to happen in Europe? How to set fair rules beetween 2 wifes and a husband? Is there a country, where polygamy is legal, so that my husband could actually marry another women, while being married with me? |
Matt
Member
Post Number: 226
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Friday, March 09, 2012 - 02:11 am: |
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Magdalena wrote "I am familiar with the Law of Creation, which says, that men can have a few wives."
Hello Magdalena and welcome to the board!
I don't think that applies to us at our evolutionary level. It does apply for the Plejaren people but their spiritual evolution is around 30 million years ahead of ours. |
Ramirez
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Post Number: 669
Registered: 06-2008
| | Posted on Friday, March 09, 2012 - 05:16 am: |
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"I don't think that applies to us at our evolutionary level."
Some in Saudi Arabia & Utah would challenge your take on that Matt.
Anyway ask just about anyone .... isn't one life partner more than enough ?
You can only drive one car at a time though storing several in the garage can satisfy a persons desires to ..... have more.
Cheers.
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Teesoft
Member
Post Number: 125
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Friday, March 09, 2012 - 06:08 am: |
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Hi Matt i think it applies to every life form and thanks to christianity which have promoted monogany unfortunately the majority of Earthly humans are still prone to jealousy which is why polygamous has always been doom to failure but since Magdalena seem not to worry and not jealous i think its ok for her! Nevertheless i dont think it will work due to the other person being religious minded which as you know oppose polygamous strongly......As for my advice, I think if you can form a friendship her and speak to her about how polygamous can indeed work in a pure neutral way then maybe it can all work out well.......I wish you the best
Salome |
Markcampbell
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Post Number: 743
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Friday, March 09, 2012 - 09:08 am: |
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Marriages are real lessons in life . Polygamy may not work in societies where it is not prevalent . The question you've asked will be answered by the situation itself . I wish you all the best .
Salome , Mark |
Michaelhelfert
Member
Post Number: 65
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Friday, March 09, 2012 - 09:45 am: |
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If you think of your women like your cars,
you will only end up driving them crazy.
; )
Viva le difference! May the battle of the sexes be ever fought...
as long as we all know it is just a game. (It is a game when both sides are intrigued, laughing.)
Women are people, just like men,
and ideally how they choose to attach themselves to their mates should have nothing to do with being owned.
Life
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Matt
Member
Post Number: 227
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Friday, March 09, 2012 - 05:40 pm: |
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Hi Ramirez and Teesoft,
I thought what I said there about marriages at our level was correct but now I feel unsure.
Jacob, would you mind offering some clarification on this because I would like to know. Thanks. |
Jacob
Moderator
Post Number: 851
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 09, 2012 - 06:27 pm: |
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Even when polygamy is a natural-creative law, which explains that one man can have multiple wives; but a woman can have only one man.
It must be said that the Earth population, even in regions where polygamy is practiced for many years, is not ready for polygamy since there is no true understanding amongst the people, caused by cult-religious influences.
The natural creative law of polygamy is based on the following:
- The man (positive/outward factor) and as such can bind several women (negative/inward factor) and impregnate them at the same time, all the off-spring of all his wives are related to each other, and in accordance with natural-creative law, it is absolutely ill-advised for seven generations to interbreed. The off-spring has to look much further away and work much more thoroughly to find a suitable mate, this also keeps the gene-pool on healthy level.
- Every marriage a man has with a wife is a monogamous marriage, which is in itself a building block for a polygamous marriage, the marriage of a man with each of his wives is unique and based on a true effective binding love. The marriage must be based on real effective love, not an affective love based on physical attraction, social status, riches, sex, etc.
- The wife is the negative factor, and under normal/natural circumstances she forms close relationships with the other wives in a polygamous marriage, this does not mean that there must be a sexual component involved. By nature, women are much more focused on harmony, peace, evolution, etc. then men, they work better together and provide for a home. It would not work in the reverse, when one woman would have several men, since only one man could impregnate her and the others could not at the same time, the inherent aggressiveness of the male would cause for disharmony and destruction, because its an male instinct to procreate and spread his genes, he would have to fight to get the favor of the female.
In the current setting on this planet, with its massive overpopulation polygamy would not work because the overpopulation would increase manifold when polygamy would be allowed.
Another factor is that for thousands of years this natural-creative law has been ignored and falsified by cult-religion and has made both the male and the female unfit to follow this law, because of this, for many thousands of years the unbalanced impulses have stored in the storage-banks about polygamy being immoral according to most cult-religions, which cause much misunderstanding, abuse and jealousy about polygamy.
This will need hundreds, if not thousands of years to neutralize and normalize after the human has accepted the truth of the Creation and its laws and recommendations.
Monogamy is a normal and natural form of marriage, here on this Earth and on Erra, its all about personal choice, polygamy is optional and should only be pursued when both parties truly understand this law, both the man and the woman should be accepting and wanting it fully out of their own free will.
The natural-creative law of polygamy is one of the laws that lays the foundation of a family, society, humanity, a WE-form, a humanity based on natural-creative laws and recommendations is totally different then anything known on Earth at present day, it will be a society where the form of government is based on oneness principle, a higher form of government then democracy.
Salome,
Jacob
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Jacob
Moderator
Post Number: 852
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 09, 2012 - 06:32 pm: |
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Magdalena, it would be very ill advised if your husband will pursue another relationship with another woman, there is no logical basis, and you gave the answer yourself "She is his friend now, not a lover. He wants us all to live together, but doesn't think it's possible because of her monogamic-and-religious-point-of-view."
Can he provide for both of you, ALL your needs? I doubt if he can logical prove and say yes.
I don't like to say it, but your husband is acting out of egotistical motivations, the motivation of most men, of course not all, to have a polygamous relationship is based on sexual benefits, physical benefits and has nothing to do with fulfillment of natural-creative laws and recommendations.
Salome,
Jacob
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Jacob
Moderator
Post Number: 853
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 09, 2012 - 06:35 pm: |
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Matt, it doesn't take the Earth humanity 30 million years, it would be realistic to think in the several thousands.
Salome,
Jacob
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Sanjin
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Post Number: 177
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Friday, March 09, 2012 - 09:15 pm: |
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Magdalena,
The spiritual teaching says that a man can have several women if he becomes able to be fair to his women in all things and practices equality with all of them and is as able to provide for them. This is quite unlikely to be the case, unless you husband studies the spiritual teaching, is a highly motivated man and works hard.
Even if these requirements are met, you still have to be cautious about the laws in your country. Having multiple wives is illegal in many countries and your husband could be accused of bigotry. You could check on wikipedia on this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygamy
By the way, if a man marries several women according to the laws and recommendations of Creation, it is still considered monogamy and not polygamy. The difference is that the other women would become part of your marriage and family, instead of it being a separate marriage. So one marriage, one family, one love. But it is quite likely that the general public would not be able to understand this difference, and may not accept it.
If you are interested in knowing more about this and many other Creational laws and recommendations of relationships, I would highly recommend the book "Law of Love" or "Gesetz der Liebe" from Mr. Meier.
That reminds me that I should go back and read it again...
Love makes the world go round.
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Matt
Member
Post Number: 228
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2012 - 12:00 am: |
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Jacob, thanks for that informative clarification on the matter. You explained it well!
Basically we (Earth Humans) aren't ready yet for polygamy (according to the Law of Creation), not for thousands of years to come from now. |
Jacob
Moderator
Post Number: 854
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2012 - 01:43 am: |
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Sanjin,
Your not correct about your words concerning monogamy/polygamy.
I recommend reading pages 91 - 96 of Gesetz der Liebe, which explains it in detail.
A polygamous marriage of a man and several wives is composed out of out several monogamous marriages. Each of the marriages between a man and a woman is a unity and is an independent building block of a polygamous marriage which is a WE-form (Hyperunit)
At present time none of the requirements for a true polygamous marriage are fulfilled, not in understanding of the natural-creative law and recommendations and by human law it is still illegal to this day.
Basically at this time and age all this is an academic exercise which can't find practical implementation yet.
(Message edited by jacob on March 10, 2012)
Salome,
Jacob
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Sanjin
Member
Post Number: 178
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2012 - 12:37 pm: |
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Jacob,
I'm sure that I'm correct, and the 5th recommendation from the "Gesetz der Bestimmung" that is "Law of Determination" on page 95 explains that. Einehe means monogamy (one marriage).
Love makes the world go round.
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