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    Votan Member Post Number: 49 Registered: 12-2011 |
Flaming Pie If you do not know what you are talking about please do not respond. Commonsense tells us that someone or something is guiding us. Creation is a word used. You have to decipher what you read to be the truth. I used Votan because he was from earth, read your history. ---------- Votan, please lighten up. There was no insult intended in Flaming pie's comment, which you seem to have found. Please read my comments in the 'Spirit lesson' section re responses on this forum: http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/show.cgi?13/8846#POST63799 Thankyou Indi (Message edited by indi on January 01, 2013) joe | ||
Verlanis Member Post Number: 31 Registered: 10-2012 |
In relation to Indi's note there, and me being completely guilty of being super serious to the point of acting like Star Trek's Mr. Spock with an attitude; The point of many earth incarnations is to Lighten Up in all senses of mind, emotion, and action. Blessed be those who watch and those who turn the key. I will contribute in the way I can. My goal is to help in all areas that I can. I will think, and I will develope. Truth is to be discovered and explored. -- | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 50 Registered: 12-2011 |
Indi I did not say there was an insult. Why did you not edit her response and edit mine. She should read the Spirit lesson and not me. I ask a question and all the so called experts respond. Who really knows the truth . I suppose when we die we will find out. joe | ||
Remr Member Post Number: 13 Registered: 04-2011 |
"Who really knows the truth . I suppose when we die we will find out." We have a really great opportunity to learn/discern the truth right now during this current lifetime here on Earth. Once we die, we will not find out anything new about the truth, or learn anything new in general, I don't think. Once we die, we will not have a brain nor any senses to be able to think about/register anything new. | ||
Flaming_pie Member Post Number: 56 Registered: 11-2012 |
Joe, Please, share with me what was so incorrect. I did not respond because I'm a "so called expert." I saw a challenge and I wanted to contribute something from my perspective. I was surprised by all the other wonderful contributions. I don't think mine was so far off from the other people. And sir, I would submit that from my understanding of the Figu material, people don't learn the truth when they die. They learn the truth while they are alive. That is the point to a life. I promise not to use any more humor with you. But thanks for the history lesson. Now I think your username is a Led Zeppelin song. Cheers, Anthony Alagna | ||
Ferbon Member Post Number: 192 Registered: 05-2012 |
Votan If you wish to avoid misunderstanding regarding your intentions you can simply post a link to the excerpt from the material you want to discuss and say - "I don't get this part. Please help" which should be much easier than trying to interpret things that are often difficult. We are here to help, but please address the issue in clear and understandable way as suggested by moderators in their recent links. It is likely that short - one line questions - with no context unnecessarily attract scrutiny. Salome | ||
Michaelhelfert Member Post Number: 236 Registered: 09-2011 |
From what I understand, when we die we typically review our previous life from the perspective of the spiritual self. We emphasize the lessons learned, the elements of our previous selves that we like, to integrate them more permanently with our spiritual sense of self. And then we build a new character, to start the reincarnation cycle yet again. During this time do we learn the truth of our existence? Perhaps we each hold a personal slant on what kinda truth we are talking about. Will the truth of our existence spell out the reason for the play of life upon the screen of reality? Which understanding one has about that is dependent upon the depth of one's perspective. Taken to it's logical end, in the afterlife do we experience only what we expect to experience? Perhaps we each have a different Heaven in store for us. Will the truth of our existence affirm what beliefs we hold on to, such as a Christian's vision of Heaven or Hell, or a nihilist's sense of nothingness, or even the Plejaren's postulate of reincarnation and spiritual growth? On the other hand, objective truth is a shared experience. We will find objective truth in the afterlife, in the time between lives, only if we share information. Will the conflicts of Earth, the secret coteries and sly machinations, continue to play out in the Heavens? Is the truth of our existence a revealing of Earthly secrets, such as who really killed JFK, and where Blackbeard hid his treasure? I spose it depends upon how tightly we hold on to our respective identities. Ironically enough, what we find to be the truth of our existence may be most determined by what we can let go of. Throughout all the conjecture and mental gymnastics, love is always found when looking for the truth of our existence. Isn't that curious? And what is love anyway? Regarding whether we learn the truth of our existence when we die, this might be a good question for Herr Meier. Life | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 51 Registered: 12-2011 |
Thank you Michaelhelfert your article made more sense than any other I have read. Previous post have criticised me for short article. I have always been like that ,I get to the point and do not elaborate too much . joe | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 53 Registered: 12-2011 |
Flaming-pie I will not respond to your last entry otherwise it could go on and on. Thank you joe | ||
Flaming_pie Member Post Number: 58 Registered: 11-2012 |
Hi guys, Look what I found: Questions to Billy--Answered "Thomas Hall Posted on Saturday, August 04, 2001 - 07:06 pm Very briefly, could you describe what the average Earth human experiences between lives...Thanks. ANSWER: That's not possible because we don't remember and we don't have the words to describe it. No personality exists anymore, and therefore no thoughts as we are familiar with in our lifetime. It's the spirit form and the "comprehensive consciousness block" (Gesamtbewusstseinsblock) that enter the Beyond. The spirit form and the comprehensive consciousness block "analyses/reviews" (= aufarbeiten) what has not been digested/assimilated prior to death. Love, wisdom etc. are transformed into a fine-matter form. The former personality is dissolved and transformed into neutral energy. Then a new personality is "worked out"/developed which incarnates - together with the spirit form - into an embryo at the 21st day after conception. The new personality has nothing in common with the former one!" So it seems in the death cycle "No personality exists anymore, and therefore no thoughts as we are familiar with in our lifetime." So there would NOT be any type of learning as we understand it. BUT, "spirit form and the comprehensive consciousness block "analyses/reviews" (= aufarbeiten) what has not been digested/assimilated prior to death." As Billy starts off about the afterlife "...we don't have the words to describe it." So this "analyses/reviews" that Billy is talking about is nothing like we would understand as a learning experience. If one defines learning as making progress, again there is only "digestion/assimilation" of the past personality into a new one. So a spirit form in the beyond would not have knowledge about famous people or anything else. Best regards, Anthony Alagna | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 343 Registered: 12-2009 |
Remr is right. There is nothing new learned in the beyond, because there is no awareness or "I" or "me" after the old personality dissolves (in seconds) and there is no reviewal of the previous incarnation. There is only neutral energy when the OCB is programming the next incarnation. Billy has answered these questions before sprinkled in his books and also the questions section in the archives. I am sure this debate will go on but the information is there by Billy for those that honestly want to research it. Salome Corey OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom. | ||
Michael_white Member Post Number: 5 Registered: 11-2011 |
Scott, I was commenting on Michaelhelfert's comment: "The mother may have some lesson to learn about love and loss." The existence of one spirit/consciousness would not or should not purposely be ended as a lesson for another spirit/consciousness. Of course, if the life ended naturally, it ended naturally and not for the purpose of teaching a lesson. | ||
Elreyjr Member Post Number: 313 Registered: 01-2009 |
Votan, for your consideration: from: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/10203.html#POST41840 "what happens to the spirit while awaiting reincarnation? Jun Since the spirit exists in timelessness, you can say that it rests or slumbers in a waiting position. In that state it can absorb (aufnehmen) information from the storage banks of the overall consciousness block (formerly called comprehensive consciousness block; see http://dict.figu.org). Another term for that state: slumber-like state of rest." If I may say, "If you have not found the truth this lifetime, you will not also find the truth when you die."? Jun | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 344 Registered: 12-2009 |
Nice find Flaming Pie. Just a note for clarifications sake the english translation for Gesamtbewusstseinblock was officially changed from "comprehensive consciousness block" (CCB) to "overall consciousness block" (OCB) some years ago after that question was answered. https://figu.org/dict/node/156 rough unofficial translation of German sentence in dictionary: storage bank in the beyond, created by the spirit form. A place where the consciousness block dissolves and a new one is rebuilt. Salome Corey OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom. | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 55 Registered: 12-2011 |
Elreyr As you are aware each human being interprets information differently and that is called free will and thought process. I think that as a number 7 I have read and learnt enough info to last a life time. I do not blindly follow any info without checking the validity. joe | ||
Cydonia1972 New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 07-2011 |
Dear moderators, Is there ET bases on the moon? What does Billy think about the spiritual teachings of George Kavasillas? Salome Cydonia | ||
Elreyjr Member Post Number: 314 Registered: 01-2009 |
Votan, can not complain. no one else can really do the search for you, especially you seem to be well adept looking from the way you lay your claim. feel free to independently validate/check out what Billy told me. I am happy for you that you know a lot better. but??? never mind.... Jun | ||
Jay Member Post Number: 377 Registered: 01-2002 |
Cydonia, there are no bases on the moon. History of the moon and how it arrived to its location from another location of space has a history embedded in the Lyra and Vega regions of our universe, the moon was a living planet at one time and through a cataclysmic event in those regions, the moon was hurled across the vastness of space until it settled and arrived in our vicinity. The moon originally was not part of the earths rotational pull. Hope this helps. JAY Saalome and BE WELL to ALL  JAYhovaah | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 62 Registered: 12-2011 |
Jay I read somewhere that NASA exploded a bomb on the moon and it resonated like a bell. They said it was hollow inside. How could it be a living planet if the NASA story is true? joe | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2360 Registered: 12-1999 |
Can we please return to the topic heading. | ||
Rintintin Member Post Number: 47 Registered: 04-2012 |
Hello ... I wonder if you know that in Judaism there is a group of rabbis who kept a terrible secret. That group calling itself: "The Secret Guardians of the Blood". I read a book about the gruesome ritual slaughter perpetrated by Jews on children below 7 years old and I was struck by one of the hundreds of court cases I read by their degree of unimaginable wickedness and sadism. The terrible torture to death that was subjected Feodor Jemeljanov, a 2 and a half years old children was so unspeakable that the human mind can not consevir such a degree of wickedness and sadism. I want to know what happens to the spirit of these creatures killed so wild that way. Immediately reincarnation or leave to the beyond? Does they lose their souls? Thanks... | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2655 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Rintintin... Yes, that is gruesome.... As far as I know, is, that the child being killed, can...reincarnate immediately. Life, here, has been taken away prematurely, and thus, according to Creational Laws will just reincarnate immediately. The above mentioned, makes me think of what is mentioned regarding deaths occurring prematurely, say, an automobile accident. Billy, did mention in an update, that it can occur....that such Spirit-form can gravitate to a newly embryo...and which may already be occupied by 'another' Spirit-form, which can lead to, that the individual...growing older...being possessed. But, if all goes well, it would just gravitate to a Compatible 'vacant' embryo to reside in; as I understand, via the Compatibility of the mother. Edward. | ||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 581 Registered: 03-2004 |
Nothing negative can be done to the spirit. It is invulnerable to anything from the material world. It never becomes sick or old. In reality soul means Psyche which is a half material part of the human being and which dies with the body when the time comes for it. The spirit is immortal. Salome. |
