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    Acriasis Member Post Number: 24 Registered: 08-2012 |
All things have purpose, for life is created for a purpose. For the Earth human in this current time through untruth and belief it seems that for most people, money and power are that purpose, How wrong it is to toil about in worry when money becomes unavailable or power over people and/or material things is lost. Perhaps one day the Earth human can grow out of his/her materialism and megalomania, and find and apply the actual truth right before his very eyes. To live in a world where truth, caring, peace and prosperity is the normal way of life, would bring great evolution of consciousness to all peoples of Earth. No more poverty, no more war, hate and untruthful demoralizing behavior, can be in a world where resources and needs are given to the people without the need for payment of money. If the Earth humans will become one world of human beings, life and caring for others will become a current purpose and great knowledge for all shall be found through the immortal spirit within. Racism, greed, envy, strife, hate, lies, deceit, are all stemming from the needs and desires of people not being fulfilled to their liking, so in turn by whatever evil means possible, people of belief, begin once again to fulfill these needs for control of material possessions, like money, and attempt to bring others under their control through lies and deceit, so that wants rather than needs are fulfilled. This in turn degrades the way of thinking into absolute despair when everything is not "perfect" and to the liking of an individual. Even as Billy Edward Albert Meier brings to the Earth people the actual, absolute truth, there is still hate, greed, lies ,and deceit, for the people of belief seem to not want to change their lives for the betterment of humanity, almost 'liking' to be hateful, and uncaring for other people and the actual truth right in front of them. For all of us that seek change and can feel and know, rather than believe and hope for, actual truth, we are set free to rule our own lives and bring great changes to the world around us in such a way, that uncaring individuals become caring once more, hateful racist people, become friendly and loving once again for all people are quite capable of this, through the knowledge of the creational spiritual truth brought to us by the Plejaren and BEAM. Through our neutral positive influence and our spiritual life of truth in everyday life, we know the truth and apply this truth wherever possible, for in truth there is life for all things, through the love of Creation. One day perhaps far into the future, the people of earth may say something like this quote I came up with, which would be in truth and oneness with all people not one nation: "One world under truth, love and wisdom, peace be with all life of this world and the next, may our light shine brightly, may our days be full of joy, for we are the human beings of the planet called Earth" _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Seek truth, live life in truth, apply it, for life and spirit is truth and truly brings changes to all through the Spiritual Life In Everyday Life in the love and infinite might of Creation. | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 21 Registered: 02-2010 |
I'm not sure where to post this question...are we consciousness evolving when we place all our attention and focus on our "pets" such as dogs, cats, etc. Meaning, there are countless number of people advocating for animals rights when there are people starving all over the world. I'm sensing it's a form of distracting from interacting with human beings. MsMichelle http://www.michellecarithers.com | ||
Ferbon Member Post Number: 216 Registered: 05-2012 |
Respect for animals is as needed as respect for humans because both are part of Creation. In my opinion , it is wiser to support both movements than ponder which is better. If you refer to focusing on animals as primary goal of some individuals - as limited and short-sighted, then you are probably right. Salome | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 22 Registered: 02-2010 |
thanks Ferbon MsMichelle http://www.michellecarithers.com | ||
Indi Moderator Post Number: 703 Registered: 06-2006 |
Post by Michael Horn moved to: The Mission --> FIGU Study Groups #649 http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/8877.html?1358490775 Salome Robyn Denken Sie für sich selbst! | ||
Jacob New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 02-2013 |
Reverence and venerability are the primal forces of all knowledge. (2013 version) This means that a person must have venerable reverence in himself for all things if he wants to attain knowledge. All things are venerable, the positive ones as well as the negative ones, which should be respected in the same, equal way in reverence, when they are not degenerate. Logic states that everything and everybody in the universe was created in universal love and serves a certain purpose, consequently it is venerable and must viewed with reverence, because nothing is created in the universe, without it being committed to a certain mission. Pay attention to your surroundings and your experiences and pick out from them everything that claims reverence from you. Pay attention to the people, the animals and the plants, and see the venerableness in them. Criticize and correct your fellow human being not in a degrading form, but in a balanced form, to rectify their mistakes with honest love and attention, only in an helpful and supporting manner. This is necessary for the sake of reverence and because of the natural creative laws, thus you are urged to be well-balanced negative as well as well-balanced positive by which you completely act in balance and are able to feel reverence for all things. Example of well-balanced positivity: When an animal in Nature becomes degenerate for whatever reason, then it will be either banished or destroyed by other animals or humans. The mere act of destroying the degenerate animal is negative, because an act of destruction is negative in itself, however the result is neutral-positive because the degenerated animal is destroyed and thereby the balance in nature is restored. Example of lack of reverence: To use solely/mostly age, gender, social-economical position to win an argument instead of using common-sense and reason is a clear sign, that one is not able to counter well formulated arguments with logic. After a certain age common-sense and reason has grown to such an extent that possible age difference becomes less relevant, provided the person has studied and keeps on studying. If a person needs to use physical properties (I am older, or I am a man, or I am rich, etc, etc) to 'win' an argument, then that person has already 'lost' a discussion. Maybe a less valid example, if one JUST thinks of age as a prominent factor, then in that way of reasoning would mean Pope Benedict XVI (born Joseph Aloisius Ratzinger on 16 April 1927) would be a wiser and more experienced man then 'Billy' Eduard Albert Meier, because he is born on 3 February 1937, little shy of ten years later. Wisdom yields more respect than just 'white' hair. You may never just see the good(logic, balance etc.) or just see the bad(illogic, unbalance, etc.), but you must see the good(logic, balance etc.) and the bad(illogic, unbalance, etc.) in an equal balance, and you must recognize the venerability from both factors and accept, that both, good(logic, balance etc.) and bad(illogic, unbalance, etc.), are factors of vital importance of the creation-conditioned evolution, thus they must find reverence in your being. Thus, you should never judge falsely, but be recognizing and respectful,. You should make this your internal and external rule of life. This rule must be to you a component of your Gemüt, your psyche and your consciousness. You have it in your power to perfect yourself and to transform noticeably within time. However, this change must take place in your personality, caused by your reasoning, Empfindüng, feelings and thoughts. Hence, it is not enough that you show reverence only externally to one or all things, while this reverence is still foreign to your personality and to your thinking. You must have reverence, in your Empfindüng, feelings and thoughts whether you are awake or asleep, or whether you are amongst others or alone. You must start with this if you want to work your way up in the secrets of the spiritual teaching to attain higher knowledge, consciousness-related/spiritual abilities and forces which you will be able to use in a fully beneficial way. You must continuously try to seek and create lasting reverence, to let it become a permanent part of your thoughts and feelings, so all thoughts and feelings of irreverence and disparaging criticism and judgement in your consciousness becomes a thing of the past. Absolutely noiseless and undetectable from the outside world, this change takes place when you walk on the path of knowledge and become reverent to all venerable things. At first, it will not be easy for you to become knowledgeable because reverence for all venerable things is the basic factor of all knowledge. This rests in the fact that you are still inclined to believe, and it is in this belief you accept the assumption that insight is an ability in itself, and purely a consciounsness-related process. However, with this line of thought you do not recognize that the origin of all recognition lies in your spirit and your Gemüt as well as your psyche, because only there lie the basic forces of all development and understanding. Hence, you will only find the key to the secrets and to the beauty of life inside and outside, when you start to live in yourself, in your spirit, in your Gemüt in your psyche and your material consciousness, which are animated andshaped by knowledge and ability, by consciously generated factors aswell as the Empfindüngen and feelings, which make themselves understandable as symbols to the material consciousness, spirit, Gemüt and the psyche. Hence, you must learn, to control your feelings, your thoughts and Empfindüng and to steer them in the necessary strength and direction. However, you must also learn to generate them consciously and to work with them. Thereby you learn to develop together with the outside world according to the given sevenfold laws of the universal-consciousness Creation. As a principle of your introduction into the spiritual teaching the following value should count for you: that you search for knowledge about the insights of the consciousness-related/spiritual to ripen within yourself and in order to perfect yourself into the evolution that is imposed upon you, you should never search only for insights just for the sake knowledge alone. Use your SELF gained knowledge and insights to recognize and accept the modifications it brings to your personality, psyche and material conciousness in the present and in future form, it will pulse through you and give you your certainty, self-strength, self-knowledge and self-dependance and self-reliance, this will set you free from the unnatural drive (against the natural-creative laws and recommendations) and impulse to gain recognition of your fellow man/woman in order to build your selfworth on the opinion of others. Any knowledge must serve in honest form of your evolution. By acquiring insights, every search for Truth must be done in all honesty in your thinking, feelings and Empfindüng. Your senses must be dedicated towards material consciousness-related/spiritual evolution. This means to have reverence for the knowledge and the truth. Reverence and venerability is the basic principle to obtain balance of the Gemüt (balance of the Gemüt means that between the Psyche and the Gemüt an harmony exists which allows the exchange of neutral-positive impulses). In order to obtain this, one has to have the 'Empfindüng' of reverence for everything venerable, this can only be gained by knowing and acting upon the knowledge that everything in the universal-consciousness Creation serves a purpose in the universal-consciousness Creation and therefore is venerable. To have reverence for all things venerable means that you never interfere with someones free will, never use force (zwang); with the recognition of this truth you will teach yourself and leads from recognition to certainty and to knowledge. The exception on non-interference in free will is when self-defense has to be undertaken in order to protect ones own life or other peoples live or property. An act out of self-defense is always out of force (zwang), and a neutral-positive reaction to an unbalance. Gemüt ( = German word for the spiritual counterpart of the Psyche, there is no correct translation into English available) Definitions of good and bad: Good = Logical, Neutral, Neutral-positive, creational justice, etc. Bad = Illogical, unbalanced-positive, unbalanced-negative, etc. (Message edited by indi on February 16, 2013) | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 360 Registered: 12-2009 |
Jacob, Thanks for the post on reverence & veneration. I liked your example of what happens when an animal becomes too degenerate so the animal is thus destroyed, restoring the balance to nature. In Arahat Athersata Billy, when making the case for negative-positive equilisedness, wrote that in nature, when something becomes too negative or positive, it gets worked out by nature like how you described. I forget the exact wording or verse, I'll have to look for it. Salome Corey OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2371 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi Corey, I think there was something mentioned in The Psyche regarding when an animal becomes to degenerate, that nature will restore the balance by eliminating the animal in some fashion. Scott | ||
Jacob New member Post Number: 4 Registered: 02-2013 |
Hello Corey, Its the book Arahat Athersata page 160 - 161 verse 571 to 584 it is described. Salome, Jacob | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 361 Registered: 12-2009 |
Scott: Thanks, it's been too long since I read The Psyche. When my translated copy gets in from FIGU Landesgruppe Canada I'm going to have to give the new book another read. Jacob: I thought it was in AA and that was it, thanks. When I read that before it really made me think. That's what I like best about reading Billy's books is the alternative perspective that I have grown quite accustomed to. Verse 580 gives a degenerate/bad (ausgeartete) negative example of killing without logic, and 581 gives a degenerate-positive example of letting the animal live. Verse 583 sums it up that if it wasn't for this law, all life on earth would in a short time become destroyed. Verse 584 goes on to say that this is a determined nature law, without degeneration and is both negative and positive, therefore equalized. Good stuff, in a way your post made me think of these AA verses as an elaboration on your animal example. I try to remember veneration for my fellow human beings as equals and above all reverence for Creation or the universal consciousness so I enjoyed your post. Salome Corey OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom. | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2675 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Scott... Yes, quite good example. Well, Semjase, did mention that MAN....can contract Cancer....through his - Leech-like lifestyle -, if not contracted by other means, like pollutions, or foods which, is not fit for his diet, or whatever, etc. So, Nature, would, here...as well...take its stance to Balance out the situation of circumstances....within the human behavior. Due, to MAN's own Consequences. Thus, it is quite...Positive....that Billy brings the Spirit(ual) Teaching(s) anew, to learn of the above mentioned (and, your example). Which, would make us live more Consciously, than living Impulsively...without THINKING and than, having to experience such Harsh....Consequences, due to our own Ignorance. Yes, Nature can be very HARSH....at times....but, that is the Nature of things... Edward. | ||
Jacob Member Post Number: 7 Registered: 02-2013 |
Hello Corey, Nature shows us every single day the principles, laws and recommendations of the universal-consciousness Creation, we just have to learn to read her symbolic language. Salome, Jacob | ||
Hawaiian Member Post Number: 142 Registered: 05-2011 |
All human beings are bio-chemical-electrical-magnetic-spiritual entities that have unique and specific resonate frequency(s) that when properly "tuned" by his/her disciplined awareness, he or she will merge into the universal-consciousness accordingly to their Equational Potential Attributes just like a well balanced extremely complex mathematical equation with all its specific values contributing to its overall logical function(s). | ||
Jacob Member Post Number: 8 Registered: 02-2013 |
What is the human, by JHRH Semjase of Erra: Contact 11 German original: Der Mensch ist kein blosses biologisches Phänomen. In ihm ist auch ein kleiner Teil eines feinstofflich bedingten psychischen Organismus' in geistiger Form, der mit latenten Potentialitäten, mit der Macht aller schöpferischen Kräfte geladen ist English translation: The human being is not a mere biological phenomenon. In him is also a small part of a fine-material conditioned, psychological organism in spiritual form, which is loaded with latent potentialities, with the might of all creational forces. Part of the spirit teaching: Der Geist im Menschen, das Teilstück Schöpfungsgeist, ist Träger des schöpferischen Reiches, und er ist allen menschlichen Lebensformen eigen, ganz gleich welcher Art, Rasse und Hautfarbe sowie Sprache usw. sie in der gesamtuniversellen Weite und in ihrer Hunderttausende von millionenfachen Vielfältigkeit auch sind. Für alle gilt das gleiche Gesetz des Strebens nach Evolution, nach Höherem und Vollkommenerem. The human spirit, the part of Creation's spirit, is carrier of the creative realm, which is in every human lifeform, regardless kind, race, color or language in its universal millionfold diversity. For all applies the law of striving after evolution, after something higher and more perfect. Salome, Jacob | ||
Dan_c Member Post Number: 22 Registered: 02-2010 |
Who is actually studying this material on their own on this forum? Do you all realize that you're not going to benefit from the code in english, so doesn't that beg the question, what's the use of asking people for this information in english? It's not going to benefit anything in the long run in your next lifetimes. And if you're interested enough in something, shouldn't you have even the slightest inclination to do your own work? Depending on somebody elses work doesn't make your thinking stronger. It just makes you more dependent and weak. I tend to agree with Billy that an English forum is a bad idea. After all, the spirit teaching is all about developing your own will power to do your own work. Semjase learned German in 21 days which took considerable conscious EFFORT. This on the other hand promotes very little conscious evolution, will power or mental development for individuals who make themselves so dependent on other peoples work. Just imagine Billy farming all day and then coming inside, sitting down and doing all the work of putting this information together after an already long day. I doubt very much that he would ever put up with this much laziness from a core group member. (Anybody who reads the notes knows that he doesn't). Neither do the Plejaren. Seems a crime almost that so many here are just waiting for others to give it all to them (without any of the benefits). Fortunately, true evolution doesn't happen this way anyways. So whether you like it or not, you won't be arguing with me but with reality. If you're tempted to do that, might I suggest going back and looking at that map of the universe? Even your next door neighbor won't hear you scream about it, so chances are that you'll have very little effect on changing the rest of the creation. TOUGH! 2+2=4. Crying about it won't make it equal 3. Assassinate the messenger if you wish, but the message will still remain.  HAPPY STUDYING! | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 684 Registered: 05-2008 |
Dan_c - thanks for making an appearance to impart The Truth to us and then shooting down our replies before they even formulate. Pretty damn clever.  Salome, Bruce | ||
Ferbon Member Post Number: 228 Registered: 05-2012 |
Dan_c English is not just this forum. About billion people communicate in this language. Where exactly is laziness in that? Where does Billy say that "English forum is a bad idea?" People from this forum also study German language as well as Spiritual Teachings in their original form. You were also kind enough to login here and communicate in this language. Can you give a chance to the rest of a billion people to find out about Billy? . | ||
Jacob Member Post Number: 9 Registered: 02-2013 |
Hello Dan, I must say, I do agree with many of your viewpoints, but up to an extend, in order to have a realistic view about an issue you have to see it from all sides, not just sides you want to see (I am stating this in general). Personally, as a tri-lingual person: native in Dutch, near-native in German and adequate in English, it was initially hard for me to understand why people are so eager to have the spirit teaching translated in English instead of studying the German original. In an attempt to understand this I went to the Italian FIGU Forum, mind you, I do not speak a word of Italian except only a few words like Si, No and Ciao. When attempting to read the Italian FIGU forum and FIGU website (it.figu.org) I was really frustrated how hard and slow it was to translate word for word, bit by bit in order to understand what was said and explained. This gave me an understanding of the people who cant speak or read German or just very poorly. The Earth is populated by Earth humans with spiritforms originally incarnated on this planet and spiritforms stemming from deep space, however they have all at least ONE thing in common: They are NOT Plejarens, do NOT have access to Plejaren technology and lifestyle. As a rule of thumb its much harder for an adult Earth human to learn a foreign language, much harder then for a Plejaren, there is simply no comparison. Its an inalienable right of every human being, regardless of gender, sexual preference, upbringing, social status, etc. etc. etc. to have access to the spirit teaching and truth about the universal-consciousness Creation. Therefore its justified that some parts of the spirit teaching are translated in order to bring people the opportunity to study the material in their own language. However there is no natural right for people to simply get all information without the slighest effort, people will have to study and work hard for it. The right balance is to provide enough information to reach a 'critical mass' in someones thinking in order to let him or her undertake the effort to study German so they would benefit from the complete Geisteslehre including its coding. If they act upon it and start studying out of themselves, then they see the value in it, if they find excuses not to study German or simply do not want to, then they are simply not ready for the spirit teaching. The effort to study German is nothing when it comes to the benefits of studying the spirit teaching in German. Also, if Billy would think the English FIGU forum would be a bad thing then he most certainly not spend time answering questions of English FIGU forum members. Salome, Jacob | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 363 Registered: 12-2009 |
Dan_C: There are quite a few people on this English forums who also study the material in it's original German and use the forums for a sense of community to discuss the information with others as they may not live near a study group, including me. Salome Corey OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom. | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 89 Registered: 12-2011 |
Dan_c I agree we were given a brain to think and analyse. We all interpret information in different ways.Sometimes not the way that somebody else thinks on this forum. joe | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 652 Registered: 07-2009 |
> Ferbon, succinct and well said. | ||
Redbeard Member Post Number: 255 Registered: 04-2006 |
Hello All, Great discussion and imput, love it! One thing I've noticed as I mature and become healthier in body, mind and psyche, is that I understand/cognize material that before I just skimmed over or didn't appreciate. This is an ongoing lesson, this life we lead, but sometimes folks we know decide to drop out of class for various reasons. Some times I'd like a vacation from the reality that is in my face and in the mirror every day, and breaks from it are necessary. I have a relative that is so spooked in his psyche about dying that he has trouble even discussing it with me or anyone else, as he is worried about after death that nothing will be left of his person or of any spirit. He is so locked into this place he won't even at my suggestion read any of these materials for himself and there's nothing that can be done for him in this regard until he gets past this issue, which I have come to understand, is the psyche's response to danger/harm/or mass deception that we are all living in a matrix that isn't real, (the matrix movie with the same name). Now as far as the matrix idea, that kind of fits in a way as this reality of the physical is temporary and deceptive and difficult to prove it's origins, ect. ect. Once we do evolve, as in the teachings, to a pure spiritual we form, then perhaps much of this life will seem very much a non reality, similar to looking back at our early childhood and what we thought was most important or most real. What are your thought on the fear of death thing, I'm not in fear of it and it's hard for me to even talk to him as we keep hitting his fear wall.... Peace, Matt | ||
Hawaiian Member Post Number: 144 Registered: 05-2011 |
I’m not sure if a similar posting of this was done or not, but it is relevant for this particular subject. Below is a very interesting translation of a research title topic describing a complex human Genome procedure into common lay person language understood by many without the formal training and experience which often takes many years of professional work that few have the time to invest or commit. The name of this book reference is called Life Script-“How the Human Genome Discoveries Will Transform Medicine and Enhance Your Health” by Nicholas Wade. This book is interesting that currently Earth scientists are coming close in decoding the entire human gene matrix, but there are forces in place to control this research based on greed and power unfortunately. The Title of the article in question is on page 191-Bibliography “Scientific journals are intended for specialist who understand a particular type of language suitable for precision and not for the general reader because it is based on conservative reasoning with a cautious approach for further analysis by colleagues engaged in that particular field of research. The translation below from complex to layperson’s mode of understanding goes from one sentence to three complete paragraphs. TITLE OF SCIENTIFIC ARTICLE: “Neovascularization of ischemic myocardium by human bone marrow-derived angioblasts prevents cardiumyocte apoptosis, reduces remodeling and improves cardiac function” IN LAYPERSON’S TERMS: Hey guys, just listen to this. We’re found a totally novel kind of cell in human bone marrow. It seems to be the parent cell that gives rise to the body’s blood vessels, so we’re calling it an angioblast (Greek for “grower of blood vessels”). These cool angioblasts cause the growth of new blood vessels (Neovascularization) in heart muscle (Myocardium) suffering from oxygen deprivation (Ischemia). The new blood supply prevents the self-destruction (Apoptosis) of the heart muscle (Cardiomyocytes) that occur after a heart attack. It also blocks the usual pathological thickening and scar formation (Remodeling) and makes the heart work better than usual after a heart attack. We used human angioblasts, but all these experiments were of course done in rats, not people. (That’s so obvious; there was no need to say “rat” in the headline was there?) Comments: One can clearly notice that it takes a great deal of energy to “expand” a complex concept into layperson’s understanding that has been thoroughly investigated and condensed into some specialized language accessible to only those who are familiar with its usage and most importantly have experienced such applications through personal endeavors of that field. However it can be done as we have all witnessed. I have just read a comment from some Chinese person asking Billy about his country’s populace interest in his materials but the difficulty of learning German in order to understand this mission of creational endeavors. It is true that the High German language contains certain coding that carry a high essence value for creational meanings, however would it be more logical and prudent in regards to the overall mission to influence as one may say “More bang for the buck”? If those who already know the material (in German) to at least make some attempt to translate in “lay-person” terms at best as possible, so that the majority (instead of the very limited minority who attempts to learn German) reach this “Critical mass level”, so that they begin to make the positive connections or at least to some degree, experience the essence of the materials BEAM has transcribed in High German? After all, is it better to learn a significant amount in one’s lay-person’s language then an insignificant amount in High German because of the time limitation and other factors? If you look at it from an academic prospective, High German is a precision language similar to the bio-medical language and both are rather Exclusive rather than Inclusive, since only those with the necessary discipline, knowledge and experience will benefit from its utilization. I’m sure the Plejarens or Asket people have that translation devices which would immensely save allot of time and effort to assist BEAM and FIGU rather than having Earthly humans do this. The result will certainly not be 100 percent because English, Chinese and other non-German languages are not mature enough, but like the saying “a half-full glass is better than an empty one which still relishes the body with moisture so that he/she sustains life for another day of learning”. |
