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Skyrim
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Post Number: 86
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Posted on Saturday, April 20, 2013 - 10:38 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"i consider myself a very realistic human being here on Erra"

Blue_room, you mean Earth?

phil
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Blue_room
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Posted on Sunday, April 21, 2013 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

definitely meant Earth (as Indi corrected me) Skyrim...
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Earthling
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Posted on Saturday, May 11, 2013 - 06:16 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don't know exactly where to put this, so ...

A quote from a rather successful businessman, which aligns with what Meier says regarding the endlessness of the learning for human beings.

Warren Buffett - "The game of life is a game of everlasting learning. At least if you want to win.”

And Buffett would know something about winning(success). If you bought one share of his stock for $16 on May 10, 1965, it would now be worth $167,780 on May 10, 2013. Iow, if you invested $100 with him 48 years ago, that $100 would now be worth over $1 million.
Salome,
Bruce
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Edward
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Posted on Monday, May 13, 2013 - 02:23 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Bruce....


Yes, Buffett (as well as Gates), have LEARNED to share their Profits with the
unfortunate, which is quite a Positive move!

So, they have to LEARN....NOT to be Greedy!

Having SO MUCH MONEY...is quite an Addiction!!!


Edward.
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Acriasis
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Post Number: 31
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Posted on Monday, May 20, 2013 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello all,
This is a thought I had this night when dwelling on 'The Spiritual Life in Everyday Life'
There are many abilities that come with leading a more spiritually oriented life. No matter where it is, work, driving, on a hike, relaxing at home, truth is right there and shall always be, within this life of all lives of one who adheres and applies the knowledge of the truth to the daily life. Day by day, the truth grows stronger, the feeling of life all around you and a oneness with all things. Oh, how can this be...where was I before...I was right there within the truth, not recognizing it when it was there for the material life/religion/untruth seemed more important then. Now that the truth is known, the teachings of truth matter most to start the day, it is what is most interesting to the whole of my BEING. For all my might of the physical was nothing, compared to the infinite might of the spirit, that is not forgetful and has all the knowledge of my past experience to share with the present personality, if only true oneness can truly be found. In this true life within, a special care and love like no other for all lifeforms, can come forth. For life is in truth, and all life forms have experience in truth for each is a part of the Creational truth. The feeling within is a mutual feeling, contained within all who know and follow the actual truth. A sort of calling out, a seeking out, a longing for what matters most, it is the fragment of the infinite within, which is simply the truth that has been here for all time, sort of calling to you to come out of the darkness and see your true potential, your true BEING, in a beautiful neutrally-positive bright white light of Creation, for all that she truly is.
May all who are here experience true life and overall well-being, and may your joy be everlasting as we continue onward in pursuit of truth and knowledge unknown before to the present incarnation.
Saalome,
Marcus
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The truth is here to be acknowledged for such as, true life, true peace, for spiritual evolution of consciousness, the true path chosen will be difficult if chosen wisely.
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Eddieamartin
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Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Acriasis

Saalome Marcus,

I really enjoyed reading your post #31.

Once I truly recognized, understood and contemplated the truth, the truthly truth, I realized that there was a great mystery of which I was completely unaware of. Yet never the less, I recognized that, here "we" are. Incarnated into this realm, animating bodies made up of mostly empty space. Bodies which a micro biologist confirmed to me resembles a universe of its own kind with all sorts of creatures and other marvels that keep it alive for our use.

What a wonder it is to know that we are here to learn and evolve until we once again reunite with this great mystery, the wonder of all wonders. The universal consciousness Creation itself.

Truly we are one. We come from and are made of oneness and the sameness and, animate that which is one with this great mystery.

Salome,
Eddie
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Marbar
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Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2013 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What would you do in this scenario:

When a person tells you to leave him or her alone, you decided to leave the person alone. While you make no attempt to communicate with the person, that person tries to see what you are doing or is thinking about you.

What would make the person do after telling you to leave him or her alone?

Now, this an everyday thing that people deal with. When the people who are in these conflicts decide to settle things, it will greatly benefit both of their spiritual evolutions.
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Marbar
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Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2013 - 05:23 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When a person does a wrong, he or she gets punished more severely than what they deserved to be?
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Sunday, July 21, 2013 - 03:51 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi all

Just contemplating and reflecting upon what I see before me about the society at large I cannot avoid this conclusion that people's frustrations and discontent seem to stem evermore from the anti-spiritual nature of the extreme materialistic nature of just about everything comprising our society.

Just thinking about it people spend most of their 24 hours sleeping, showering, cleaning, going to the bathroom, grooming, dressing, on the bus, car and train, walking, in the elevator, eating, working, shopping, paying bills, drinking, waiting in line, visiting the doctors, banking, surfing the net, watching television, movies and video, playing video games, cooking, doing the laundry, arguing, the pub, reading the newspaper, magazine and books, BBQ, socialising, chatting on the phone, lazing out, daydreaming, playing sports, travelling, looking at things, worrying, back biting, sucking up to someone, sex, participating in religious activities, meeting, earning a living, investing, participating in activities with utility value, and so on just to name several.

But out of all these activities hardly anything can be classed as being genuinely spiritual in nature where the most important things that inspire and up lift the spirit gets done.

The emptiness of the shell life is so poignantly displayed where a young couple is bickering on the streets like some sort of street performance garnering the attention of onlookers, pissed at each other for whatever reason where the young lady is walking away in a hissy fit whilst her boyfriend is close behind in tow wondering what the heck just happened and in a momentary pause the expression of sheer perplexion overcoming his demeanor.

Such a waste of time and much ado about nothings must eventually have the effect of deadening the senses and sense 'abilities' of a life in the 21st century where practically everywhere you turn the only thing in which society wants you to be is to be a good customer with lots of money for it matters little whether you are a good person or a bad one just as long as you part with your money.

Under such a superficial setting where it gives little opportunity for people to be their higher self where genuine love, affection, caring, peace, freedom, harmony, respect, courtesy and good humour can be shared but equally opportunity for people to be able to do so without being misconstrued with suspicion must worsen the effect of inner emptiness and meaninglessness.

Only through Billy's re-delivered spiritual teachings, of knowing about them, of doing something with it, of putting the onus back onto oneself to be proactive on these matters, of inside out first instead of expecting outside in can it ameliorate such symptoms of nothingness and inner impoverishment that keeps on nagging the conscience with signs of discontent, blandness of everything, frustration, dissatisfaction, lack of joy and excitement, meaninglessness and emptiness.

Leading of, into, with and for the materialistic shell game of life, wherever it is lead, whomever it is lead with, however it is lead, why it is lead, with what it is lead with and whenever it is lead just doesn't seem to cut it for the spirit.

regards
Matt
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Psycloud
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Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some of those activities you mention can be highly "spiritual" in nature. In sleep, you might have dreams, which you can learn from, if a record is kept, self grooming will help keep your body healthy, which can keep your mind sharp, and we all need some physical labor to learn efficiently and effectively. In fact, we should be able to learn something "spiritual" from most of those activities, if you have your consciousness in the right place, even if others around you don't understand. And if they are constantly snapping at you, you should consider whether you should be hanging out with them. Its only an empty life if you let be one.

-Ken
I am truthful to the extend at which I know the truth.
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 - 03:42 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Psycloud

I agree with you psycloud in principle but tell this to the unknowing masses.

Most of what glimmer of that which is spiritual in nature is coincidental and subconsciously driven rather than in conscious form for most.

But of course how could it be otherwise when you don't know that you don't know which is the case for most people.

The symptoms of ignorance comes in diverse forms I think and the agitation, frustration, irritation, discontent and dissatisfaction is all too evident to see out there where bickering, arguing, domineering, negativity, back chatting, hatred, controlling, lashing out and other ills dominates.

You could probably expect these activities to provide consciously driven spiritual experiences for those in the know but not much for those that are yet to acquaint themselves with the truth.

Even for those in the know it is still a struggle and a work in progress so I would have to include myself and you into this picture as well no doubt.

Words are so easy to give as is also having theoretical understanding and knowledge of the spiritual teachings but when it comes to doing, this is another matter entirely different which has it's own struggles, tests and challenges.

regards
Matt Lee
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Quest
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Post Number: 38
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Posted on Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 06:18 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hello people, could any one help to explain whats the secret with the name JESUS CHRIST, and HOLY GHOST, and also the BLOOD OF JESUS. these names i as a wittness drives diffrent kinds of spirits out of possessed body, and they obey when commanded in the name of JESUS CHRIST or HOLY GHOST. plesase could any body tell me why these demons and evil spririts obeys? and if you are in doubt about what i am talking about you could visit this web sites. www.scoan.org or www.emmanual.tv
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Quest
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Posted on Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 06:45 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hello folks,

what is the big deal about refering creation as GOD? because to me it is just same, irrespective of the person's understanding. because they get the same result when ever they call upon God to come to their need. is there anything wrong in worshipping Creation or GOD? if CREATION OR GOD can be honoured, what is the big deal about worshipping CREATION or GOD? as most people know it here on planet Earth. AND also what is wrong in BELIEVING IN CREAION OR IN GOD? OR HAVING FAITH IN CREATION OR IN GOD? In mine opinion there are two categories of people and ways human could contact or observe what ever they accept as truth or what ever they believe as truth, one the ones who depends on Creation or God to help and run there lifes through their faith and believe, and the other are those that accepts CReation or GOD as the way, but have to learn the lessons of life through strifes and and being independent, by controling there thoughts and feelings. In my humble opinion theses two ways are a matter of chioce, and non of them should be said to be the most acceptable by CReATION or GOD because each one is really working for the users. i would really like a response to this please. thanks everybody.
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Jacob
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Posted on Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 07:39 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Quest,

It is a very big deal, the title/name/meaning God, Gott, etc. is charged with a cult-religious meaning. unworth and negativity.

God is always a human being "Wesen", and no human being, no matter how knowledgeable or wise can be compared to the 'Wesenheit' Creation universal-consciousness.

Having faith (in a religious way) in anything real or imaginary is the laziness, darkness, misguidedness of a person not wanting or too cowardly to think for himself and come to logical conclusions by means of logical reasoning based on the natural-creative laws and recommendations.

Having faith is living life on unproven things and a house build on quicksand, in either way, such a life will inevitably collapse.

Besides, what is so hard using "The Creation" or "Creation universal-consciousness" instead of God? Its easy to do for a person who dares to think for himself.
Salome,
Jacob

As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
~ Socrates
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Quest
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Posted on Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 06:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dears people,

There is power in the Name of JESUS CHRIST.. In which UNIVERSE ARE the People of JESUS CHRIST CAME FROM and where is their power from? how are they able to drive evils or possesed spirits off? where does these evil spirits came from? where is there world? and origin? thanks, please could someone help me to forward these posting of mine to billy, i want to know what is his take on this matter. Does any one knowa a man by prophet T.B. JOSHUA? and his works what can billy say about this man?
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Scott
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Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2013 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Quest,

There was no man by the name of Jesus Christ whoever lived. This was a distortion created to mislead and control people, which unfortunately still exists today. Jmmanuel who lived over 2000 years ago taught what he could to the people of those times, but because of their lack of knowledge were easily swayed by untruth and lies. The teachings of Jmmanuel to this day are still not understood in their correct context and are used by religions to manipulate people for profit and control. For instance why does the Pope require over $200 million dollars a year, if he was truly concerned about the hardships of many people this money would be donated to charities throughout the world. This is an unfortunate situation, because the effects of religious thinking have their roots in the minds of many people and will do so for hundreds of years into the future....belief is truth without proof..
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Ramirez
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Posted on Wednesday, August 07, 2013 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"belief is truth without proof.."

Truth is knowledge without belief ......
Cheers.
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Magic_pie
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Posted on Thursday, August 08, 2013 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hiya Ramirez,

Don't ya mean "knowledge is truth without belief?" And I would not necessarily agree with "belief is truth without proof." A person's "belief" may or may not be rooted in truth. When one takes in to consideration the law of contrariness, much of what people think is 'real' is actually bogus.

Cheers,
Anthony
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Celesco
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Posted on Thursday, August 08, 2013 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Matt Lee,

I think of your words as being entirely accurate when you wrote "Words are so easy to give as is also having theoretical understanding and knowledge of the spiritual teachings but when it comes to doing, this is another matter entirely different which has it's own struggles, tests and challenges."

I also struggle to put the lessons into practice, however I have found that moving at a slower pace through life helps immensely in being able to apply the lessons in a logical manner to real-time experiences. One example of this is to stop myself if I begin to anticipate the argument prematurely of another, or if I begin to discern my rebuttal before they have even finished talking. This is the way of "debating", which has become very prevalent in society and yet which, in my opinion, is only a gentle, misleading term for purposeful aggressiveness and self-generated ignorance because the purpose of debate is to fight using greasy, diplomatic tactics for the right to claim "victory", meanwhile tossing care about the actual, factual truth out of the window.

Instead, by controlling my thoughts to be patient, so that I think about the other person's words and body language instead of about what I will say in response to them, I am able to use my logic in a more productive fashion. Many people who I meet are made uncomfortable by my true listening, so that they encourage me to be more forceful, unthinking, and careless about what I say because it will serve as greater entertainment for them, but I will not stop seeing, hearing, and thinking just because it is not entertaining to do so. I also frequently observe that many people trick themselves - or are coerced - into claiming to like Gewalt because it offers an adrenaline rush, and because it mimics the television - which means that, in my personal observation/perspective, there is a certain form of destructive entertainment that comes about when Gewalt is present in an area - like witnessing a car crash, or a demolition derby.

I have also observed the truth in the statement that we learn the lessons in a deeper capacity when we engage life and have meaningful work - and from my estimation this has to do with the fact that, when we are reading the lessons on a computer, only our minds are involved meanwhile our bodies are not engaged in the process of learning. However, by participating in a real-life exchange of information, for example, which involves gut-reactions and other deeply felt physical responses, we can then use the power of our minds to recognize, become cognizant, feel love, and exhibit control about the entire realm of living. Therefore, instead of letting heart-ache get out of control and make us depressed, we can use positive-neutral logic to change the course of our own internal suffering, thereby turning negativism into something good, which I suspect can be considered a deeper change in personality because it is knowledge that is felt by our guts, which need to be taught by us like an animal, as well our minds, which can think on their own. I feel that my explanation is poor, but it is only intended to add my voice of translation about the spirit lessons, as I have vaguely learned them - so I hope that my disclaimer is sufficient to acknowledge that I am not claiming a comprehensive knowledge about the matter because my example is quite limited and, therefore, should not be considered a comprehensive, complete explanation about the importance of having meaningful work, or the importance of controlling the thoughts.
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Ramirez
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Posted on Thursday, August 08, 2013 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Anthony,

If something comes from the mouth of Ptaah that has a far greater chance of being knowledge than if it comes from the mouth of a man standing on a balcony in Rome.

But yes for sure proof is essential but proof comes in gradiations of perception from both sides ..... those claiming to speak the truth and those claiming to understand it so truth is relative.

What the AA .... Absolute Absolutum understands as truth has greater validity than what a Creation understand it to be and a Creation's understanding of truth is more refined than Ptaah's.

Agreed, what many might think is truth is not quite the version which the AA understands it to be but then that's what all those re-incarnations are for ..... a better perspective from which to work things out gradually develops.

A good place to start is by understanding that the big book of babble is exactly that and maybe that guy in Switzerland isn't just making up all that stuff which comes from his mind ending up on paper or electronic media.

Which version of truth do you have confidence in ?

That's sure to be something which changes gradually and eventually arrive at the 100% possibility benchmark whilst still in a bag of bones form so then it starts all over again in another form.

With all that i wonder if long long ago the Creation was a person on a planet just as we are ..... who gradually arrived at a position where the perspective concerning truth expanded quite a lot.
Cheers.
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Thursday, August 08, 2013 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Celesco

Celesco far be it for me to say this but I sense that you are on the right track with your frame of mind and attitude displayed through your thoughts expressed.

As it would be so evident to the would be student of Creational spiritual teachings delivered to us by BEAM and the Plejaren, the often ad nauseously repeated Billy's advice about people 'needing to control their thoughts, feelings and action and that they should take full responsibility for their own life, thoughts, feelings and actions and truly, verily and genuinely think for themselves' pops up time and time again more so where it concerns various material problems, issues, situations, circumstances, events and happenings in our lives.

Billy states that "if all knowledge was simply tossed out to them like feed and they fed on it thoughtlessly and without processing, then it would bring no proper success, but rather only a certain school-knowledge, while the undigested remainder would be secreted again as excrement.

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/meierv5p468.htm

When you think about the significance of this statement and looked at yourself in the mirror as I have, you would realise just how easy it is to give good advice to others yet have nothing concrete to show for in the way of being more spiritual by having real life experiences of the application of the teachings in a conscious form to back up your advice giving.

I am sure that everyone is guilty of this at some point in one degree or another and hence the law 'do not be a hypocrite' applies.

It truly is so easy to talk but very hard to walk the talk and same goes for regurgitating the teachings and having school knowledge and intellectual understanding of it to the point whereby you can be brilliant with citing and referencing what was said in the teachings and in the contact notes to make logical arguments but when it actually comes down to you yourself having real experiences that you can draw from to give advice to people often you will find that it is lacking.

So the inevitable questions might have to run like this:-

'if the teachings states that people need to achieve peace, love, harmony and freedom within and without then today, have I consciously with effort controlled my thoughts, feelings and actions that reflect this spiritual advice?'

'If in the teachings it states that people need to achieve a neutral positive and balanced thoughts, then have I consciously and quite deliberately with effort thought neutral positively despite whatever external circumstances I happened to find myself in?'

'If in the teachings it states that everything is one have I consciously and feeling-fully perceived my fellow human beings as one with me as part piece of me thereby felt love for them?'

and so on it goes.
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Benhilo
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Posted on Friday, August 09, 2013 - 01:18 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Celesco,

I enjoyed your post and can relate. And understand it. Many here seems to be locked into finding information that even if known and understood does not help a person immediately to improve and grow. For me, this is exactly what your post does and did. There are so many facets in our lives to address and improve - your post was exactly what I needed. Thanks for posting

Salome

Stefan
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Acriasis
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Posted on Wednesday, August 28, 2013 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For how can one live a spiritual life truly in everyday life? Through being able to retain knowledge gained, that true knowledge becomes useful and rewarding in applying to the daily life. In this we finally can speak physically to others about the truth and assist others when needed, not only write/type on a forum, what is learned or what can be referenced usually in a short time via the internet about a question perhaps about the contact reports. Each of us has an oppurtunity to live a true life once truth is known and we are truly obligated to seek and apply that which is most interesting to the whole of our true self for this is what is most helpful to my/our own life and the people I come into contact with daily. Yes, it is tough to talk about what is learned when physically speaking about such as the spiritual teaching as if the words to be spoken were taken from you and/or could only be written....it is almost as if certain words or symbols are needed to fully remember what has been memorized/learned/read. Another way is to devote time daily to read and learn, to study, to apply true knowledge in any situation whether it be at work, in nature, in a crowded area, while you are sitting there reading, even recognizing a truth of that cashier at the grocery store as another part of the creational. The Earth human is evolutively growing in consciousness daily the more that those that know the truth not only 'talk' also can 'walk' in the knowledge of the truth, for in this a nuetral positive energy of thought seems to ne sent out into the world around you, even speaking only a few words may sort of 'spark' someone of belief to question there thoughts and how life truly is by a person knowledgible of truthful things that can explain as well as reference and direct without bringimg harm, that perhaps a choice for the beleiver will be recognized if only there were someone there to share something of most importance at that right moment....

The spiritual life in everyday life is what is needed daily for this is evolutive and helpful as we watch us grow into a cornerstone of true life.
Saalome,
Marcus

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