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Brncvngtn
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Post Number: 12
Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 01:36 pm: | 
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Thanks Tim & Thomas,Yes I know it takes many years of meditative practice to build consentration to make initiation with your own spirit but having a pyramid does make the meditation easier doesen't it?Tahnks for the info about purchasing a pyramid Tim and I will check out the figu website.I also thought I saw something on there website too about building your own pyramid.
Brian C.
peace in Wisdom
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Thomas
Member
Post Number: 873
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 01:49 pm: |
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you do not! :-)
patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com
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Thomas
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Post Number: 874
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 01:56 pm: |
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you are welcome ;-)
patricksdadinfrance@yahoo.com
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Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 1082
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 19, 2010 - 11:45 am: |
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Hi guys,
Now I'm no expert, but it's my understanding that this pyramid business can actually be dangerous. I'm not talking about these little ones which you put on a table in front of you. I'm talking about the huge ones like at the Center. To the best of my limited knowledge, these devices can - in effect - AMPLIFY things, so if you are an experienced and successful meditator, then a pyramid can assist you to advance your progress in that positive direction. HOWEVER, if your mind/psyche is degenerated, confused, ignorant, unbalanced, fearful, enslaved by false beliefs, hateful, and subject to other negative states, and so on and so forth - then getting into a big pyramid and trying to meditate can be a VERY serious mistake.
There are no magic wands and no easy shortcuts. A stick of dynamite can save you a whole day's work by blowing out a big tree stump, or it can also blow your hand off, depending on your understanding of how it works.
Salome,
Dyson |
Brncvngtn
Member
Post Number: 17
Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Friday, March 19, 2010 - 07:34 pm: |
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Thanks for the advice Dyson.Don't want to injure myself using a pyramid but it would still be nice to have one to experience want it would be like. I know you must try not to let your pysche create uphoric meditation by letting ego or intervertion take over.That breathing technic observing your breath going in and out of your nose is good.I'll take any advice I can get.
Brian
peace in Wisdom
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Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 1090
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 19, 2010 - 08:03 pm: |
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Dear Brian,
I got a bit more info together for you from my live-in student of the spirit teaching.
I was basically correct with my above advice, but maybe should have added that a big (inhabitable) pyramid, which works sort of like an amplifier, can have the effect of amplifying undesirable things like certain thoughts or mental fantasies, to the point that they will seem to become so real to you that you can scare yourself badly. It seems logical that - in turn - the amplified (and artificially real-seeming) fear could also be amplified, and so on, not unlike when you hold a microphone in front of a loudspeaker and get loud feedback. "Mental-fear-feedback" sounds about as traumatic a thing as I can imagine!
Yeah. The nose trick is what I use. Simple. I rarely leave the house without my nose, so it's handy. :-)
Good luck!
Cheers!
Dyson |
Smukhuti
Member
Post Number: 276
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 12:42 am: |
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Dear Dyson,
I am having the same opinion as you do and write in your above POST #1082.
Too much positivity too quickly is also harmful. The Sirian Creator Overlords manipulated themself to get rid of all violence or warlike abilities from them, that in turn prompted a need for them to produce a bunch of genetically modified warrior race. It is a irony that a shortcut to the positive side of human nature started all these.
Salome.
Suv
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Indi
Moderator
Post Number: 429
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 03:09 am: |
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There is a section for discussing meditation and its associated issues so please continue there.
Robyn |
Bronzedesk
Member
Post Number: 92
Registered: 01-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 07:22 am: |
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Dear all,
Just a passing thought... Have any of you ever even began to think or realize that the Cro Magnam were in fact the required products of the Sirian Overlords request for warriors and were just that... thus the total so called mass disappearance/extinction routine would have had to do with the final gathering up and transport which would have possibly been a part of the original contract of the infamous 200's... you know the ones in the so called Garden of Eden fiasco and that Neanderthal was at that time was a second generation upgrade and modification attempt of further modified genetic pooling but was thwarped by the 200's 2 so called cohorts in crime... leaders both Ouza and Azazel! Go figure on that one... but I guess it is as good a guess as any of those that are being thrown out there now a days since it seems that the one's involved are not around to give their version of what really happened, well at least... we have Billy and the P's to spark us on!
I know this, is going to throw most of you into a tissy especially those religious hardliners.... oh but what the hell! Well, you only live once or... do you?
And why just why would the P's deliberately leave in any reference to Ouza if in fact they had in fact deliberately left behind something that was of any worth to further lead us up to a whole new can of worms history wise and thought wise!
I most certainly don't believe that it was because Samyaza also Semihazah, Shemyazaz, ... was even mentioned just because of a young girl's name similarity by P's standards had to be further threaded or explained for more than she really was... just that... a pretty but well versed and intelligent messenger? I don't think so, there's more here to this than meets the eye and needs to be further looked and taken into consideration as a possible alternative or further alteration to a history that was once taken many many moons ago to be taken as a flat earth mentality! There is more to this puppy than meets the ol ~ Kanogan !!!
Mat
p.s. And as far as not telling the complete or total truth it is now, I believe politically correct to say or refer to the use of the words ~ plausible denial!
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Dear Mat, with all due respect, this post just is not relevant to this location.
You could repost it in either <The Planet Earth --> Miscellaneous -->Ancient Earth History> or under <The Planet Earth --> ET Intervention on Earth>.
Could you please attend to this and to all, please be more careful where these posts go for your own benefit as well as others.
Robyn
(Message edited by indi on March 20, 2010)
First you forget names, then you forget faces. Next you forget to pull your zipper up and finally, you forget to pull it down. George Burns
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Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 1091
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 01:36 pm: |
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Dear Robyn!
(Great job! Thanks so much! Very prompt and in an Australian time zone too! Thanks also for fighting against the German-falsifiers.)
Small difficulty - all the best threads are closed or blocked, and it's sometime not even easy to know that until you get there. Help?
Cheers!
Dyson
<the> Miscellaneous -->Ancient Earth History> or under <the> ET Intervention on Earth>.
Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 03:02 am: (Moderator/Admin Only)
Dear Forum Members,
It has been decided amongst the moderators that this section needs to be discontinued for the present. There are numerous reasons for this decision, but more than anything else its relevance to FIGU material has diminished to the point of non-existence. While the contributions being submitted are intelligently written, they do not belong on this forum. There are other forums to discuss these topics. Thank you. |
Sauroman11
Member
Post Number: 15
Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2011 - 07:19 am: |
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I have question. I'm very interested in learning telepathy, telekinesis. I tried developing these abilities but with no success. I think that problem is that I'm trying communicate with person or move object imaginated reflection but not what is objective. To send message you have to know adress. To move object you have to know it's prototype not subjective image. If you want communicate telepathically with somebody you have to know real recipient, not only his appearance. Or everybody has unique appearance, face, voice designed to be "address"? |
Edward
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Post Number: 2072
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 04:28 am: |
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Hi Sauroman....
Well, as I understand it: the more Mature Spirit-form...the more the
possibility of Telepathic abilities. In the sense what you speak of and
attempted.
But, in general, many of us are transmitting our Thoughts...here-and-there,
with result that it can be received, by whom ever. Others just better than
you.
Telekineses, would apply the same, I would say: Mature Spirit-form. Unless,
due to some disturbance within One's Psyche...which can trigger such
manifestation moving an object Unconsciously (Poltergeist Effect). Which is of
course, very Rare...Consciously.
Edward. |
Fredy
New member
Post Number: 1
Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 06:49 am: |
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> [Hello Bill, my question is about the matureness of the spirit. An spirit f orm that has reached the enough time and experience and evolution to move to the non physical realm and continue the evolution process what, how and in want manner live is expressed in the last physical living experience before entering in a new dimensional evolution? Is there any way it can be conscio us of his transcendency process in regarding the incoming change towards his own evolving process in the live condition ? Or it's a knowledge he can onl y elaborate while in the beyond.] |
Sauroman11
Member
Post Number: 16
Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 11:17 pm: |
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So we are transmitting thoughts everywhere according to Billy Meier up to 900km(as electromagnetic waves). But I wanted to know how you do have primary telepathic contact with certain person or interact with object? By imagination? It is much easier to have telepathic contact with someone you know well, but how you know him? Billions of people transmit thoughts all the time, so how you get specific thoughts from this sea?
Or for example I want to move rock using only my mental powers, how weak waves from my brain move it? Explain in detail. |
Jacob
Moderator
Post Number: 619
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2011 - 09:55 am: |
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It is very well possible for the current Earth human to learn primary telepathy which has a range of 3 lightseconds (899.377,5 km/588,847.27 miles).
Primary telepathy is explained in detail the Geisteslehre (Spiritlesson), what it is and how it can be developed, and is a purely consciousness-related ability, no direct spiritpower is used.
Telekinesis is an ability of the consciousness which requires far more effort to realize.
One needs to master meditation fully, up and to the appearance of real-dreams in meditative state, which takes at least 6-7 years of hardest effort and study.
After that it requires decades of meditation, study, improvement of wisdom and development of an balanced consciousness and psyche.
For telekinesis one need the knowledge 'how-to' and to have the consciousness-related power and concentration to use telekinesis.
Far more useful abilities for people are:
Telepathy, Empathy, Common sense and reason, intuition.
These abilities might not seem 'spectacular' but they have much more value then telekinesis at this point of Earth human evolution, because they provide an unprecedented insight in other humans and in oneself.
Salome,
Jacob
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
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Techieatwork
Member
Post Number: 159
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2011 - 01:52 pm: |
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Dear Jacob.
Please share with me the actual technique for real meditation as taught by Billy, and how to create those real dreams.
I really want to learn to communicate telepathically.
You can email me direct to: techieatwork@gmail.com
Thank you very much in advance,
Carlos.
Salome
Carlos
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Billy: Dann sprichst du eben in geraffter Form.
Quetzal: Das will ich tun.
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Hawaiian
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 05-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 11:14 pm: |
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Telepathy "resides" in the 7th sense realms, primary telepathy is limited to 3 arc-seconds while spiritual telepathy is travels 10^7000 speed of light or instantaneous across the universe.
Earthly humans are limited to primary telepathy and occurs when one dies and their experiences/knowledge are "uploaded" into the memory banks. Persons who are very close emotionally to this person often "sense" their plight at this critical moment. What I'm pondering about is "why do Earth humans have to experience death in order to accomplish basic telepathy or for that matter spiritual telepathy?"
There are "hints" in Billy's explanations on Fluidual energies, spiritual teaching, meditation that one must utilize in order to "unlock" your true potentials which lies in the 6th and 7th senses along with your ability to "connect" with your interconnections that span both time/space and dimensions, it all begins within yourself and "tuning" into higher and higher frequencies where time/space and dimensions are no longer the limiting factors.
You can gauge your frequency level after much meditation which will one day enable one to "sense" the essence of written words and the ability to read the minds of others (which is telepathy). The Plejarens are able to do this because they are at a higher evolutionary stage, but that does not mean you are not also capable of such abilities.
I could go on, but should keep this as brief as possible...aloha |
Techieatwork
Member
Post Number: 165
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Friday, May 13, 2011 - 01:04 am: |
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Hi Hawaiian. Aroha for New Zealand Maoris means "Love". Does Aloha mean the same to you guys?
About telepathy, do you have experience with it? These days I've been in a quest to increase the functions of the pineal gland, in order to experience more of the fine matter sensations, 6th and 7th sense. What is your experience with it? apart from remembering someone and then be called by that person, etc, which are pretty common I think.
Peace,
Carlos
Salome
Carlos
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Billy: Dann sprichst du eben in geraffter Form.
Quetzal: Das will ich tun.
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Erica
New member
Post Number: 1
Registered: 07-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 03:34 pm: |
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Hello,
I just got approved today for my registration to do the discussion board so am new to this. If I am doing this incorrectly in any way, a correction would be appreciated. I have not attended any séances but am currently with a spiritual teacher who conducted them for many years. I read previously on this site that medium ship was only the subconscious of that person coming through. I asked my teacher if a particular "spirit" ever came through more than just one person. His reply was that yes they did, in order to prove that it was not the subconscious as many believe. What is the explanation of this? Thank you. -Erica |
Cpl
Member
Post Number: 662
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 05:37 pm: |
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Hello Erica,
Just a personal opinion: I do not think that having more than one "entity" or "consciousness" come through is any indication that it is not the subconscious. The subconscious can cook up as many "entities" as any wannabe seer can imagine.
You will know from the Meier material that spirits do not come through in such a manner as they are neutral and so do not act on or appear on the material plane in any kind of form. All such forms can IMO only be made by the consciousness, subconsciousness, psyche or mind of the individual.
Chris
Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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Hawaiian
Member
Post Number: 174
Registered: 05-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, August 01, 2013 - 06:54 pm: |
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Aroha Carlos,
Aloha in Hawaiian means the same “love” as what the Maori speaks, there were a number of different sea faring peoples who came at different times with their own languages and legends that are similar in nature. The “r” phonetic is still spoken on the Northern most islands of Ni’ihau and Kau’ai of which the later has a much older oral history than the rest of Hawaii.
The pineal gland is the “gateway” to fine-perception and lies in the middle of both hemispheres of the human brain and considered as the “Censor” in the Schema Chart. It deals with the 7th sense of telepathy and other fine perception interactions but is not the only material component that deals with this matter. The whole “apparatus” of the entire material components from the material conscious, material subconscious and material central-conscious including the Psyche must be in harmony in order to interface and communicate with the non-material spiritual counter-parts including the GEMUT.
The biggest hindrance that prevents this interaction between the material side and non-material spiritual side is the lowest ranked material consciousness (see Schema Chart). Spiritual evolution is also determined at this level through self-discipline and the ability of one to utilize their particular attributes through as what BEAM describes as “Liberation Meditation” which is the highest form and most difficult of meditations, but it is still possible for others having much difficulty by using the other methods and “energizing” or logically inputting certain “desires”while meditating as to “imprint” such energy into the Psyche so that the other “components” can recognize these energized inputs, that in time will be “processed” in its own particular neutral slightly positive ways. It is different for each personality, depending of course one’s unique characteristics/attributes and most importantly, one’s self-discipline, because eventually, it is you who decides whether to pursue this further or not (in both the waking and dream states)
You will not find these statements in any of FIGU materials, for it comes through my own observations and experiments in both the waking and dreaming realms, both of these realms are inter-related which one will realize in your own perspectives for Billy has answered that question I asked about how many levels are there in dreams which he replied, “many, depending on the condition of the Psyche”. I have copied a section from BEAM and FIGU’s work called the Psyche and listed it below, sorry for not formally recognizing this work properly, but it helps in answering your request on how to develop the 6th and 7th senses. The 6th sense is just the intuition stage, but important as it is part of the foundation we must stand on in order to observe and be part of the higher ones.
The Psyche:
1. The psyche is not capable of a bright, clear vision but only the images, feelings and longings and desires etc.
2. Thus, animals plants and small children not yet speaking do not have clear vision
3. Very young children have not had time to develop many habits compared to the adult who has lived a much longer life. Thus, if an adult does not become again as a child, who has no internal conflict created by habits and desires for better opportunities etc., then he cannot enter the realm of the spirit or rather have communication as a flow, with it. |
Techieatwork
Member
Post Number: 200
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 06:10 am: |
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Aloha Hawaian.
Makes sense. Thanks. I am now interested in the details of the “Liberation Meditation”.
Can you please send me pointers to it?
Aroha nui.
Carlos
Salome
Carlos
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Billy: Dann sprichst du eben in geraffter Form.
Quetzal: Das will ich tun.
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Celesco
Member
Post Number: 64
Registered: 01-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 10:35 am: |
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Hi Techie,
Have you considered reading Jmmanuel's parables contained in the Talmud Jmmanuel? If you have not, I recommend it because his parables may assist you in obtaining a clearer mental image of the seven senses unfolding.
His simple parables and lessons are nowhere near as comprehensive as the current prophet's archive, but they are still very relevant and useful today. Time may have eroded the scrolls on which they were recorded, but time cannot erode the message. |
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