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    Memo00 Member Post Number: 618 Registered: 03-2004 |
I think it is Billy which obtained that information, the explanation is that the symbols of both are similar. Probably the Plejaren cannot know many things by themselves but only receive them from other sources like the High Council or Billy himself (he writes spirit lessons for them). | ||
Verlanis Member Post Number: 79 Registered: 10-2012 |
http://phys.org/news/2014-06-nasa-glimpse-invisible-world-electric.html Thanks for the help, Scott. I will be less lazy in the future. The numbers mentioned by the Plejaren originally ring the truest. The Big Bang "appears" to be only 13.7 billion years old, but there is a lot of research, notably Halton Arp -now deceased, who have argued the redshift phenomena to point out that there is plenty of argument room against the age and distances measured within the current paradigm. Earth Science is barely officially recognizing the inherrent predominance of the Electricity within the universe, and thereby dispelling the hundred year error of thinking space is mostly vacuum. FIGU-wise, the Contact Reports during the Great Journey reveal the most information about the Creation. The lesser known research done here on Earth does not contradict the earliest words written in the Contact Reports. They, in fact, confirm the words presented in FIGU on a physical basis. Halton Arp's primary contribution was presenting photos of Quasars that appear to be in front of non-opaque galaxies. Arp was Edwin Hubble's assistant. Jack -- | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 252 Registered: 12-2011 |
Creation does not exist as such in the material world and that is why we cannot comprehend who created the creation .As there is no beginning and no end in the spiritual world. I hope that this make some sense . joe | ||
Acriasis Member Post Number: 60 Registered: 08-2012 |
So it seems, all things have a connection throughout the cosmos. Movement is in life which animates each thing which moves, whether this be in one place or another, everything is different and yet the same. Life is truly negative and positive, swinging round and back to the effect of the cause, existence. The movement of life flowing forth is true, coming together for an instant, then going apart, back and forth like the tides of the sea, in movement, in life, in truth. A truth may be known by the untruth which is born, when in movment is found to be resolved as truth. The effect of life, a cause most true, all equally together and apart once again, in death, in life, in movement, in time, in existing boldly and softly the same, different and knowing life is, forever entwined, effective and beautiful, masculine amd feminine, time in existence in movement quite clear, in material wholeness amd spiritual likeness, forever creative in a life most important, causing the effect to be true life in of itself in time and space. Saalome | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1318 Registered: 07-2005 |
Speaking of Creation it is refered to as the inside body of the external universe comprising all 7 levels of matter including fine spiritual matter. Everything within the universe is made up of this fine Creational spiritual energy as if to suggest that it is the engine that drives all processes visible and nonvisible. It is the alpha and the omega so to speak. I wonder what its like to penetrate this level of fine matter which is absolutely the final and last level or stage of coarse matter. If it mentions that everything vibrates, moves, is in constant activity, oscillates and pulsates then it may be refering to this fine spiritual particle/wave as the helix double egg shaped configuration that continues to rotate against each other which is the driving force of all known process in the visible coarse matter realm or sphere. What is remarkable and so baffling about all this is how this so called spiritual fine energy organises itself to become planets, galaxies, human beings, floral and faunal lifeforms but also it is the driving force of everything within the universe that comes into being in one form or another. Time within the universe is one other baffling and mysterious phenomenon that just keeps on stumping my head into a literal headache. How is it that as I write this post whatever happened a split second ago is forever gone and is met a few split seconds later by the future which again flows like water into forever eternal past. Its simply amazing when you pay some attention to all these life's mysteries. | ||
Zzz New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 10-2014 |
@Verlanis, Halton Arp was one scientist who made waves that the establishment didn't like. James McCanney is another scientist who coined the term "Electric Universe" who rocked the boat from day one and continues to rock the boat to this day as an independently funded research scientist. His books support Immanuel Veilikovsky's claim that the comet Venus was the cause of the events during the time of Exodus (Prophet Moses). He also suggests the passing of a large body in proximity to Earth in the last approx. 10,000 years was the cause of the last ice age and pole shift. As a scientist, he does not beleive in ET's yet his story of Earth history rhymes with Meier at least for the last 10,000 years. And he also is actively battling the establishment by making available books about his understanding of science that the establishment doesn't want anyone to know about. | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 311 Registered: 07-2006 |
For those interested I have been working on (with still a long way to go) a Creational Timeline based ONLY on FIGU material. Best if printed on legal sized paper (8.5"x14" or 216x356mm) at highest resolution. Or just use a PDF viewer and zoom in...  It can be found at: https://www.creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=C8qfFLssR9I%3d&tabid=305&portalid=0 Enjoy & Salome PatM | ||
Michaelhelfert Member Post Number: 563 Registered: 09-2011 |
That's quite a nice piece of work, Pat. I do like the way you managed to get in all the details. Thanks : ) Life | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 645 Registered: 08-2010 |
Patm, Outstanding work! Salome, Eddie | ||
Sonicecho Member Post Number: 16 Registered: 02-2015 |
does billy post new material to read frequently. ANd if so where can one find it and how often does he post it? thanks anyone. | ||
Paul_wr Member Post Number: 39 Registered: 11-2013 |
Hi Sonicecho, Below is a link to the BEAM portal which is Billy's personal online log. http://beam.figu.org/ Regards, Paul | ||
Stefan_z2 Member Post Number: 48 Registered: 12-2014 |
Hi, Am not sure if it is really a big thing, but when seeing the model of Richard Neave over there ow.ly/W85OL, I could not help but recognize considerable similarities with Semjase’s drawing from 1975 http://oi64.tinypic.com/2wheeqh.jpg OK, that might not be a real big deal for stubbornly religiously obsessed people. But another research article should at least irritate the Christian fundamentalists that prefer to believe in an inexplicable, unprovable intelligent creator running the show, while refusing to consider that all it takes to bring about our creation is continuous evolution and selection: ow.ly/W8aAW Salome, Stefan | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 1005 Registered: 12-2009 |
Stefan, I enjoyed the third article about evolution/natural selection being more intelligent then we thought. It was a refreshing read. Billy has a lot to say about the millions of years long, natural process of evolution, and comparing the truth, with the unintelligent, idiotic, claims of a creator-god, in his book "Gotteswahn und Gotteswahnkrankheit" that you may enjoy the read. Salome Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 469 Registered: 12-2011 |
Scott Can you tell me the exact year that we are in. Not the after the death of Jesus Christ . Thanks. Joe joe | ||
Stefan_z2 Member Post Number: 49 Registered: 12-2014 |
Hi Corrie, On that specific book, I am right now at it, half way through. As you say, an enlightening reading, very detailed and analyzing the religious illness from all perspectives and in context. I had initially thought that it would not be worth the reading time, because not applicable for those of us considering themselves as already totally cured and immune. But it contains a wealth of considerations and explanations that help enormously when for exampling discussing with believers. Have just ordered an extra copy for my set of key spare books to use as gift for those showing interest. Salome, Stefan | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 1006 Registered: 12-2009 |
Hi Stefan, Glad to hear you were pleasantly surprised by the wealth of information contained in this specific book. It has helped me enormously, even though I had long considered myself cured of religion. Pleasant reading with this book, and the next! Salome Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 637 Registered: 03-2004 |
Hello, could someone explain to me what is exactly "Urgewalt"? In the book "The Psyche", in page 206 it is said: "But in reality, it is the primal Gewalt (Urgewalt) of the Creation which first makes the life possible." I thought Gewalt was a human "thing" and not a positive one but an extremely negative one. Should in this context "Gewalt" be translated as "power" (therefore "primal power", or there is another explanation? Thanks, and salome. | ||
Indi Moderator Post Number: 778 Registered: 06-2006 |
Memo00 The definition of Gewalt in the glossary of Macht der Gedanken reads as follows: "Gewalt: [gə’valt] There is no English word that conveys the true meaning of the German word “Gewalt”. Gewalt is the brutal execution of elemental might and force, but it is far above all might and all force. Gewalt exists in different and relative forms, one example being a “gewalttätige Gesinnung” – expression from the character, personality, thoughts, feelings and emotions that shows the inclination to act with Gewalt. When human beings possess or carry out acts of Gewalt and it is not based in logic, then this usually involves violence, brutality, degradation and is terribly destructive." Thus, primal Gewalt is indicitive of an elemental force of Creation, nature etc, but destructive when arising from the human personality etc. as it arises without reason, rationaliality and/or logic. Salome Robyn Denken Sie für sich selbst! | ||
Savio Senior Member Post Number: 791 Registered: 07-2000 |
Hi Robyn Can we then name "the big bang" is an act of "Gewalt" of Creation? Salome Savio http://billybooks.org | ||
Stefan_z2 Member Post Number: 51 Registered: 12-2014 |
Hello Savio, In German you cannot apply the term “Gewalt” on its own to anything else than a human’s actions. The same is true for saying someone being or behaving “gewalttätig“– meaning in a manner that uses Gewalt. You would for example not be able say that about a lion or nature. When combined with prefixes and thus changing its meaning it can become applicable to other subjects. For the big bang you would speak about an act of Urgewalt (similar to primal force) or use the plural-only term “Naturgewalten”, which is usually picked for characterizing strong forces of nature such as storms, earthquakes, waves of bitter cold temperatures, floods etc. To make things really confusing, you will find adjectives such as “gewaltsam”, meaning “with the intentional application of force” that can only be applied for human action, while the adjective “gewaltig”, meaning immense, massive, huge can be used for all kinds of matters. Salome, Stefan | ||
Savio Senior Member Post Number: 792 Registered: 07-2000 |
Hi Stefan Thank you so much for your kind explanation Salome Savio http://billybooks.org | ||
Watchdog Member Post Number: 84 Registered: 12-2014 |
Savio. The big Bang was a act of creating. Though it was what some might call violent. It was not an act of violence against life. A naturally accruing tsunami is violent but its not Gewalt. A tsunami created by humans to harm other humans is Gewalt They are similar but not the same.  David AKA Watchdog. USA | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 1010 Registered: 12-2009 |
Then there is "The Way to Live" translation, where Billy writes on page 133 "da vom Menschen das natürlich-schöpfungs-mässige Streben nach Höherem und Vollkommenerem gewaltsam abgewürgt wird," because "gewaltsam" is the adjective used to describe the human action of intentionally using force for the natural-creational-based striving to that which is higher, and absolutely fully developed (FIGU dictionary, see "vollkommen", although IMO for humans, this should be relative full development? i.e.: when the human-being possesses a blue aura, and the consciousness block is pure), and in the English translation on page 134, Gaiaguys did not chose to carry over "gewaltsam", but instead chose to use "Gewaltsamkeit"? I don't know if it is correct to do so, as it makes sense to me, but this is my limited understanding (which was widened by Stefan's post above) of the use of the word "Gewalt" applying to human actions, where "Gewalt" with a prefix (such as "Urgewalt") can be applied to the Creation, or the use of the plural word “Naturgewalten” can be applied to natural forces thrust upon humans, by nature, such as hurricanes, typhoons, etc. -I guess I do not know how "Gewaltsamkeit" fits into the whole picture, is this word only used for human actions as well? Salome Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 |
