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Christian
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Posted on Friday, March 25, 2016 - 05:02 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Btw: The "Ohio Interessengruppe für die FIGU-Mission" in the USA has gotten Billy's permission to translate the book "Gesetz der Liebe / The Law of Love" into English.
Christian
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Piyali
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Posted on Friday, March 25, 2016 - 07:37 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is excellent news Christian. I look forward to the translation. Thank you so much. :-)
Salome
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Msmichelle
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Posted on Friday, March 25, 2016 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great news..post 233
MsMichelle
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Joe
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Posted on Friday, March 25, 2016 - 06:48 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you both Corey and Christian.

Corey, could you please, only if you want to, translate pages 13, 41, 48 and 51? If that's asking too much then fair enough.
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Corey
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Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2016 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joe: Sure I will, no problem, let me tackle this on my upcoming days off (Wednesday/Thursday), and I will do a translation, summary, or combination of both, of your requested information.

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Hi Corey - As per the rules of the forum, only a summary please!


(Message edited by indi on March 26, 2016)
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Justsayno
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Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2016 - 09:49 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Corey, maybe you can post your translations on Michael Horn's site? I'm sure he wouldn't have any objections.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Corey
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Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2016 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Indi: yes of course, a summary only it is/I also think it is good Billy set down in writing "Wiedergeburt, Leben, Sterben, Tod, and Trauer" which translates into Rebirth, Life, Dying, Death, and Sorrow. We are going to sure need this one.
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Corey
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Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2016 - 11:20 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Justsayno: I will do both, I will do some summaries, and post them on this forum, and then I will slowly send MH some translations to host.

The reason for this duality, is in case my country goes down, my words can survive on this FIGU hosted site for the future descendants of the Earth. But it doesn't have to be this way, the difficult path would work, and our planets surviveability would be assured, with lots of mistakes to resolve, enough for every man, woman, and child of Earth.

Salome und mit lieben Grüssen
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Ilovebilly
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Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2016 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Corey I think one good thing about the system known as carnivore
The data might be used by historians far n wide accross the universe
It probably is rare for such a system so early in a societies history and we r so ah "special" rof
Earths databases could be "special"

Some cultures out there could consider stories/history/data of the highest value for learning and recreation
When cultures meet they will often see each other's databases as potential gold so to speak, databases would be currency of value, some cultures would get off on history, others on stories, others tech or all the above

It stores everything and would survive
Negative to positive

Who knows in a thousand years some dude millions of light years away could be reading your posts thinking u r a nice chap ahead of his time

ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Corey
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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 05:48 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joe & everyone: Here is a summary of "Gesetz der Liebe" page 13: unsayble many human-beings have no clarity on the question of the real reality of love, and the questioners have no inspiration of the subconsciousness where love originates to, and what it is overall for. The questioners (which leads to philosophers, theologists, religious insiders, and simple human-beings asking the question) and they have no creational information at their disposal.

Information about love from the teaching of the spirit: Love is the absolute certainty, that lives in everything, and exists in everything, in all existences, in flora and fauna, in fellow human-beings, in each material and spiritual life-form no matter what kind, and it's existence (presence) is in the entire universe, and everywhere else.

Love is felt through the attainment of the essence of wisdom, that one self in all and lives in, and exists in absolute certainty, and in absolute feeling for every existence to the next one, to each and every life-form in a connected form truly as a part of it's own existence , equally, through others to a plant, a spirit-from, an animal, a planet, a stone, a fellow-human-being, or an other life-form.

-more to come


summary done by Corey of page 13 "Gesetz der Liebe" copyright FIGU/BEAM.

Corey, do you have the German to go along with it? Danke

(Message edited by scott on March 30, 2016)
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Corey
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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No Scott I don't, I was under the impression if this was a brief summary, and put in my own words, instead of a full translation, the German was not needed.

Summary of page 41: Courtship is the essence of falling in love, which is a love-form that should be given in a relationship with great care, in a controlled form, between human to another human. Being in love as an effective form comes from many possibilities, like sand from the sea, and the many factors of a bending role are: wealth, appearence, color of skin or descent, activities, knowledge, kind and wise of a human-being, societal position, etc. The grade and intensity of falling in love can manifest in many uncontrolleableness forms that can affect the objectivity and assessment (evaluation) of each person of their inner- and outer-life that the love affects, and bring out deficiencies, vices, pathological cravings, unpossibilities, negative (-) character characteristics, which are a result of affecting naiveness, and incontinence that being in love produces.

-The point of this page, is to control yourself, and your thoughts, feelings, and impulses from your subconsciousness when you fall in love, to avoid the commonplace-ness of Earth, which is the negatives (-) that result from being in love.

summary by Corey (put in my own words) of page 41 "Gesetz der Liebe" copyright FIGU/BEAM
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Corey
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Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2016 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Summary of page 48: False love very often makes an appearence, and the affected do not realise this is false-love. This is handled in a way that the love-form is affected in all kinds in a manic way, and forms the feelings that originates in the perceptions and effects (feelings) that are formed high in the thoughts, and turn into deceptive imagination. The perceptions, effects (feelings), impulses, and contents can become acute, as well as, visual, or any other form, which is the affected love-origination. The simple effects (feelings), perceptions, impulses, and contents first become received, through assimilation/digestion (Verarbeitung) through the thoughts, which are quickly woven with wishes, and this is where the first imaginations, and fantasies originate. These can increase greater, and fasten themselves in an intensive form on the human-being, and as a result, very quickly, wrong assumptions (deception) of all kinds, originating wrong assumptions (deceptions) of the senses that increase the images of deception, and illusions that the thoughts cannot constrain. The end result is foreignness of reality that inevitably ends in a delusion.

Summary of page 48 "Gesetz der Liebe" done by Corey (put in my own words)/copyright FIGU/BEAM
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Corey
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Posted on Friday, April 01, 2016 - 01:29 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

page 50 explains that there are 4 love values of great importance:

-bond-love
-platonic-love
-universal-love
-and love for the next one

and each of these special cases adhere to one another, garbed in special rules of order, and you can find their oneness in the law of love itself.
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this page 51 snippet goes on the explain that: the fulfillment of these laws (of love) are the basic prerequisite for bond-love, that between human-beings a bond initially becomes a loving form, for the purpose, and sense, of procreation of descendants, and must be anchored in help for the evolution. Alone, the true love, in the framework of the love for the next one, and universal love, shall exceed in the form. Then also more forms of love make an appearance, namely the love of fulfillment of duty for procreation of descendants with the partner, the meaning is for the procreation of descendants, as well as, for one's Psyche, and through the formation of an equalisedness through the overall love of the partner (true love, love for the body, and so forth) that is capable for evolution.
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my thoughts: One of our next steps in our planet's developmental process (Werdegang) has to be controlling the number of our descendants. Doing so would help us avert possible total annihilation, as well as ensure our planet's couples find their way to knowing the more effective love-forms possible, and ensure that each child born, is a wanted child. Our planet's citizen's are abusing the bond-love-form with absolutely unrestricted procreation abilities, that will have severe repercussions for all human-beings, flora, fauna, and everything that flies, or crawls, the oceans, and ocean life, all the spheres of the Earth (mesosphere, stratosphere, atmosphere, etc.), and the Earth will be retaliating in pain to our descendants. We are in a critical, fragile phase of our development, and things have to go a certain way, or there will be disastrous consequences for each man, woman, and child of Earth. The only way out of these chains for the future is gewaltsame Gewaltlosigkeit, the places of fulfillment of guidelines, and the birth-stop.
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some "Goblet of the Truth" verses that deal with overpopulation, and the number of descendants:
2:100, 2:181, 2:367, 3:148, 4:05, 4:224, 7:61.



Summary of page 50-51 done by Corey (put in my own words) of "Gesetz der Liebe", copyright FIGU/BEAM. Soon to be translated by the "Ohio Interessengruppe für die FIGU-Mission" :-) Salome
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Corey
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Posted on Saturday, April 02, 2016 - 02:02 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was watching the news the other day, and a man, who was in a relationship with a woman for over 40 years, killed her, because he thought she was flirting with this friend. I just wanted to add one final thought on the grade and intensity of falling in love as I touched on with the summaries of page(s) 41/48: If one does not specialize in love control, it can be difficult not to bring out vices, deficiencies, errors in judgement, jealousy, envy, vices, deceptive imaginations, as well as, the pathological craving for retaliation, and the pathological craving for revenge, all of which can lead to submissive dependency on either the female side (-), or the male side (+) of the relationship. Just because you have fallen in love, does not mean your partner automatically "belongs" to you, both people have to feel completely free, and both parties have to be equal in unison, as a fusion, for it to be good for your evolution. If one possesses some essence of wisdom, this makes it possible for one to naturally develop the other effective love-forms such as: bond-love, platonic-love, love for the next ones, etc., and when you enter a relationship, TAKE YOUR SWEET TIME, so it is not just based in a sexual manner. This may be difficult to do when you are attracted to someone, but necessary, or this relationship will most likely be doomed to fail. Our planet's entertainment-obsessed, and sexual-obsessed youth rush into things, and more relationships at the youth level, do not last, then do last.
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Billwilson12
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Posted on Saturday, April 02, 2016 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Corey, The parts of the world that are in the evolutionary process of education and even if in a wrong form of learning are having to find refuges. The parts that are not receiving any of BEAM's teaching are the swelling due to lack of knowledge.It appears we are making a catch 22 unless we find a way to free them. I can learn all I can, But if I can not get it to Africa, India, china or south America then billions will hold everything back.
Peace
Billy Wilson
OM.K49 34. The human-restricted personality is itself only from time to time conscious. In between times lie great holes in the consciousness.
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Corey
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Posted on Saturday, April 02, 2016 - 11:55 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Billy Wilson: In that case, we will all have to keep learning all we can individually, as well as, work on liberating those that are silently browsing the forums, as well as, actively participating.

Salome
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Scott
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Posted on Sunday, April 03, 2016 - 06:26 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Corey, as I understand it , the male possesses a positive charge and the female possesses a negative charge. Do you know where in the teachings this is presented? I mentioned this to someone in my study group and don't recall where I read or heard this.

Thanks
Salome
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Corey
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Posted on Sunday, April 03, 2016 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scott: you have the information correct, and this is mentioned on page 53 of "Gesetz der Liebe", you can tell your study group I'll make sure page 53 is a part of the translations from this book that I'll be sending to Michael Horn, that will be hosted on his site.

Salome
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Joe
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Posted on Sunday, April 03, 2016 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Corey,

Could you please let us know once you have sent your translations to Michael Horn's website?

Anyway thanks Corey for the translations.
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Scott
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Posted on Monday, April 04, 2016 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Corey

Salome
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Corey
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Joe: sure. I hope to have the first one completed by the end of this week, it's kind of a big one, with lots of good information. I'll let everyone know when it's live on his site.
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Billwilson12
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Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2016 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Corey, Just a small THANK YOU for working with Michael Horn to get your work out to us all are of equal value, but many know of his site and keep track in the background till they have what they need to move forward.
Peace
Billy Wilson
OM.K49 34. The human-restricted personality is itself only from time to time conscious. In between times lie great holes in the consciousness.
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Corey
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Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2016 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

my translation can be found here for you all to read: http://theyfly.com/excerpt-law-love-bond-love

Salome
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216

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