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Bronzedesk
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Post Number: 175
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Posted on Friday, January 08, 2016 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Msmichelle,

Agreed! I've always felt that in order to help others successfully, we need and have to get and keep our own ducks in line first! Then maybe just maybe we can step out and shine a little.

Of course everyone wants to go out and be apart of the move yet there is so much more to be learned and understood on our own personal levels before even beginning to think about venturing out on our own.

This is why I like this Round Robin atmosphere that we have here on these boards with Billy's teachings at the root of it, in order to guide us through out our day to day lives together as best we can seeking our own self-realization.

Together we are just beginning to have a good overall Perspective based on a clear path of Choice/Change expressed in and through our own unconditional love shared with creation itself.

All this must be freely given without any price-tag attached from any of our own personal belief systems that might ultimately have to be both faithfully shared and lived in with those others that are truly in need of learning more about Billy/Nokodemjon's teachings.

Bronzedesk (Mat)

Albert Einstein (Physicist, 1879 - 1955) Once said "The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits."
And the end of all our exploring, will be to arrive where we started, and know the place for the first time.
~ T. S. Eliot
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Ilovebilly
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Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2016 - 04:50 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

G'day

Thanks Indi
I will try though eh eh :-)

Hi msmichelle
Agree
People need to reach a certain evolution level before the Truth can be worked out

It's not upto anyone to decide who should evolve
It's upto an individual to evolve

We can point themt to the right direction if they want

I don't worry about what others do
I concentrate on my evolution, I see the world around me and laugh, that's why so many et build base here, to see our ways rofl

Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Juzer
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Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2016 - 06:02 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Have read in the phoenix journals that life is compression and death is expansion.
Can someone please help me understand since have always heard people say the other way around.
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Votan
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Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2016 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Juzer

It is very simple to explain this.

We come into this physical realm to learn and get closer to creation.

You have to admit that the physical life is a struggle.

When we die we enter the spirit or psyche realm where no pain and immortality exists.So we expand our spirit.
joe
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Corey
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Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2016 - 08:38 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know that wish-factors (Wunschfaktoren) cannot be transferred to my next life, and I know my next incarnation will be pre-determined on a vibratory level, so my spirit-form will incarnate to a region/society with a similar average evolution level to it's own, based on a casual foreordination-based (fügungsmässig) pre-determination, I'm hoping that my next incarnation will be among a FIGU-Landesgruppe, either Canada, or Australia, would be good, or among a US-based pro-FIGU-Studiengruppe, or possibly European FIGU-Landesgruppe, or Studiengruppe. At the very least, I hope I am born to a mother, and father, who study the Geisteslehre, so my genetics can have a head-start, and I can continue my evolution studying the Geisteslehre, and learn, learn, learn. A bonus would be, to be born in a special school environment, like those noted in GOT 4:207-4:209. If not, my successor personality will just have to find it again, on it's own, like my current personality did in this incarnation! :-)

Salome
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Hugo
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Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2016 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Corey,

I think I recall reading somewhere Semjase said that it is only a possibility there could be an Australian Figu center in the future.
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Corey
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Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2016 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok, thanks Hugo. Although, the special school doesn't have to be in a Center, it could be in the home of my future parents, as long as I would be learning about the laws and recommendations of Creation, I wouldn't mind. It would be nice to be learning this stuff at a young age, wouldn't it? That's how it's supposed to survive in the future, generation to generation, without coercion or Gewalt, so the children can decide for themselves...
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Msmichelle
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Posted on Friday, March 18, 2016 - 05:23 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree with you Corey....just think....BEAM University (life long studying and learning) Without Graduating.
MsMichelle
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Corey
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Posted on Friday, March 18, 2016 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MsMichelle,

Yes, BEAM University, with life-long studying and learning, is precisely what our descendants will need.

With the rise of China as the next superpower, our descendants should have an easier time with the concept(s) of rebirth/reincarnation, although they will have to separate the wheat-from-the chaff from the confused teaching that permeates Buddhism. But at least, the concept(s) should be easier to set in the consciousness of our descendants, if the taboo of it, from current Western countries is lifted, and all the ensuing falsifications of Christianity, such as only living once, are no longer as prevalent.

China, the only country will birth restrictions, I'm hoping when it is the superpower, this will set in motion a birth-stop.
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Votan
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Posted on Friday, March 18, 2016 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Corey

China has no birth restrictions any more.

The 2 child family has stopped.
joe
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Corey
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Posted on Friday, March 18, 2016 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

that is too bad, although not perfect, China was the only one's of our planet with the courage to address the issues of the hour.
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Kenneth
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Posted on Friday, March 18, 2016 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cory,

As I understand it; the reason that China had a birth rate check is because their infrastructure could not support any more people in a closed society. That is not the case today, their goal is to be a world power, that requires more people, especially if there is a 4th world war.

Kenneth
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Savio
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Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2016 - 06:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear all

The one child policy is still in force in China.

It is just that under certain conditions, a family is allowed to have a second child.

However, people in the cities tend not to have children because of the pressure of living.

Salome

Savio
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Corey
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Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2016 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kenneth, do you think China becoming the next superpower, will usher in an era of negative Chinese imperialism? Really this is on topic, as our descendants, and our future personalities, will be living in this future time.
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Kenneth
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Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2016 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Corey,

"Negative Chinese imperialism": Wow, if I knew that answer, the Pentagon would be employing me, LOL. To many variables, can't really comment on that one.

Kenneth
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Corey
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Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

(moderators, please accept this corrected post instead of the other one(s) that are in queue, thanks :-) )

Future generations may gasp when they look over the destroyed Earth, and say "The prophet lied! Where is the evolution he promised us?" The coming destruction, and evil, and calamity may pause our planet's space programs, and even our break-neck speed of technological development we have come accustomed to in our daily lives, as our planet suffers major catastrophic set-backs that have been foretold to us, by BEAM, in the prophecies, and predictions: (*1)

"If you human beings of Earth do not turn to the truth of the Creation and its laws and recommendations in what is now the third millennium , if you do not change to the better and good and do not follow the true rules of the life as they exist in the creational laws and recommendations, then all evil events of all kinds will broaden in ever worsening succession. The creational-natural laws and recommendations are written in the ‹Goblet of the Truth› and in the ‹spiritual teaching›, which is the ‹teaching of the truth›, the ‹teaching of the spirit›, the ‹teaching of the life›, which it is of vital importance to follow. However, if you human beings continue to fail to follow the creational laws and recommendations, evil and catastrophes of all kinds which have existed all over Earth for a long time will increase in future into much more evil excrescences. And if you do not change to the better, good and best, all evil over the world will take a much worse form than it has done for decades and also does at present; and the coming events will be such as the world has never experienced up to the current time, nor lived, nor seen."

"Wenn ihr Menschen der Erde euch nicht der Wahrheit der Schöpfung und ihren Gesetzen und Geboten zu wendet im nunmehrigen Dritten Jahrtausend, wenn ihr euch nicht wandelt zum Besseren und Guten und nicht die wahrlichen Regeln des Lebens befolgt, wie sie existieren in den schöpferischen Gesetzen und Geboten, dann weiten sich alle bösen Geschehen aller Art in stetig schlimmere Folgen. Die schöpferisch-natürlichen Gesetze und Gebote sind geschrieben im ‹Kelch der Wahrheit› und in der ‹Geisteslehre›, die da ist die ‹Lehre der Wahrheit›, ‹Lehre des Geistes›, ‹Lehre des Lebens›, deren Befolgung von lebensnotwendiger Wichtigkeit ist. Folgt ihr Menschen jedoch weiterhin nicht den schöpferischen Gesetzmässigkeiten und Geboten, dann steigern sich künftig die schon seit geraum er Zeit und auch gegenwärtig auf der ganzen Erde in Erscheinung tretenden Übel und Katastrophen aller Art zu noch viel bösartigeren Auswüchsen. Und wandelt ihr euch nicht zum Besseren, Guten und Besten, dann ergeben sich weltumfassend alle Übel sehr viel schlimmer, als diese seit Jahrzehnten und auch gegenwärtig in Erscheinung treten; und die kommenden Geschehen w erden so sein, wie sie auf der Welt bis zur heutigen Zeit noch niem als erfahren, erlebt und gesehen worden sind."

And when it comes to overpopulation, care must be implemented so we can humanely lower our planet's population count, to what is recommended (and what our planet's citizens will most likely have to learn through the difficult fulfillments through the law of cause and effect: through upcoming starvation, death, destruction, need, and misery) as a number to maintain: 529,000,000 <million> human-beings. Our planet should treat our necessary consumption of food-stuffs like gold, and not do anything to jeopardize these food-stuffs in the future, nor lose them to loss of topsoil due to desertification, and loss of crop yields to warming planetary temperatures.

Lester Brown writes in his book "full planet, empty plates-the new Geopolitics of food scarcity" (*2) that scientific studies show that for every 1 degree Celsius that there is during the growing season, farmers can expect to lost about 10% of their grain (wheat, rice, and corn) yeilds. By my calculation, With the expected 6 degree Celsius temperature increase (11 degrees Fahrenheit) this upcoming century due to global warming, that means it is likely farmers will have a gradual 60% decrease in grain harvests. So many countries that are over-pumping their water wells/aquifers and have lost topsoil due to desertification are dependent on the UN World Food Programme's grain reserves to feed their growing populations, and the grain reserves will decrease. It will probably be worse with the pursuit of ridiculous bio-fuels as gasoline instead of food. Bottom line: poorer countries are going to lose out on the precious commodity of food, and this could lead to mass starvation, food riots, starving, and thirsty/dying fellow human-beings of our planet, in areas of the world of countries that were once first-world countries.

Because of overpopulation,and fossil-fuels, we have already increased our planetary temperature 0.8 degrees Celsius due to our negative (-) actions, and are going over the chasm for a full 6 degrees Celsius in the future! On top of this dilemma, we have the estimated 1,672 Gigatons (*3) (1,672 billion tons) of pure organic carbon, and dangerous Methane gas melting, and being released into the Earth's atmosphere, from the melting Artic permafrost:



There is further information available on this from Ptaah in the CR on Michael Horn's website. Billy has the following to say about climate change, and overpopulation: (*4)

"Climate change – caused by the overpopulation of your earthly humanity – will entail huge natural catastrophes which will become ever worse and also impinge on your own lives. As a result, in future ever more severe droughts and periods of cold weather as well as vast storms of all kinds, rain storms and fire storms brought forth by forest fires will scourge the entire Earth and bring about destructions full of Gewalt, as will also be the case due to an increase in earthquakes and undersea quakes, landslides, storm surges, tsunamis and volcanic eruptions, floods and high tides. Therefore, in the course of the coming time, hundreds of thousands and even millions of you human beings will lose your lives, whilst others will not be able to withstand all the misery and will seek death at their own hands,"

"Die Klimaveränderung – durch die Überbevölkerung eurer irdischen Menschheit hervorgerufen – bringt ungeheure Naturkatastrophen mit sich, die sich stetig steigern und auch ins Leben von euch selbst eingreifen. So werden künftig immer grössere Dürren und Kälteeinbrüche sowie ungeheure Stürme aller Art, Regenunwetter und durch Wald brände hervorgerufene Feuerstürme über die ganze Erde ziehen und gewaltige Zerstörungen bringen, wie dies auch sein wird durch die Steigerung der Erd- und Seebeben, durch Bergstürze, Flutwellen, Tsunamis und durch Vulkan ausbrüche, Überschwemmungen und Hochwasser. Dadurch werden im Laufe der kommenden Zeiten Hunderttausen de und gar Millionen von euch Menschen ihr Leben verlieren, während andere das ganze Elend nicht verkraften und eigenhändig den Tod suchen,"

This may be the time, in our planet's future time, when the Suicide King's prediction materializes. Future generations are going to need the reincarnating strong-willed mission-helpers, who will not supplicate themselves to the people of their kind, nor any kind of future religion, and resist suicide in any kind of wise, and make the hard, and courageous decisions that will be the meaning of our planet's citizen's future survival. 2016 may not be the perfect time to study the spiritual teaching, the teaching of the truth, the teaching of the spirit, the teaching of life, but in the future it sounds like it is going to be even more difficult, with large, destructive, and miserable changes coming due to us, and future generations, in the future times.

Billy writes in "Wealth of the Non-Gewalt and Profound Spiritual Teaching Interpretations": (*5)

"Thereby it should be kept in mind that all that is learnt, understood and brought to success in the current life, is deposited in the storage bank of the other-worldy overall consciousness block and is transferred as essence into the subconsciousness of the new consciousness block and its new personality. This essence of everything learnt is given to the new life of the next consciousness block and its new personality to take with it in the subconsciousness as a decisive foundation, through which the fundamental form of the character, of the consciousness, of the personality and of the memory, and so forth, are created.

In this manner, the new human being, with his/her new consciousness block and its new personality, is also able to continue with his/her evolution in his/her new life, where it was ended in the last life through the death. The law of creational-natural causality, that is to say of cause and effect, arises in this respect also, namely, in the form that the last evolutive state of the previous life, attains the effect that, in the next life of the new consciousness and its personality, there can be further evolution on a decisively higher state, than was possible in the previous life."

"Dabei sollte nicht ausser acht gelassen werden, dass all das, was im aktuellen Leben erlernt, verstanden und zum Erfolg gebracht wird, in der Speicherbank des jenseitigen Gesamtbewusstseinblocks abgelagert und als Essenz ins Unterbewusstsein des neuen Bewusstseinsblocks und dessen neuer Persönlichkeit übertragen wird. Diese Essenz alles Erlernten wird dem neuen Leben des nächsten Bewusstseinsblocks und dessen neuer Persönlichkeit im Unterbewusstsein als massgebender Grundstock mitgegeben, durch den
die Grundformen des Charakters, des Bewusstseins, der Persönlichkeit und des Gedächtnisses usw. erschaffen werden.

Auf diese Weise vermag der neue Mensch mit seinem neuen Bewusstseinsblock und dessen neuer Persönlichkeit im neuen Leben mit seiner Evolution auch dort fortzufahren, wo diese im letzten Leben durch den Tod beendet wurde. So ergibt sich auch in dieser Beziehung das Gesetz schöpferisch-natürlicher Kausalität resp. der Ursache und Wirkung, und zwar in der Form, dass der letzte Evolutionsstand des vorherigen Lebens die Wirkung dessen erzielt, dass im nächsten Leben des neuen Bewusstseins und dessen Persönlichkeit auf einem massgebend höheren Stand weiterevolutioniert werden kann, als dies im früheren Leben möglich war."

Considering your future lifetime, as this will be an essence of all your successes of your current lifetime, achieve, and maintain those successes in your current lifetime, on your personal path of consciousness-based evolution, as our planet, and it's future citizens just might need to benefit from these said past successes from your predecessor personality in the coming years of new lifetimes, with new personalities.
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*1 = "Goblet of the Truth" page LXI, copyright FIGU/BEAM/published in Canada by the FIGU-Landesgruppe Canada

*2 = summary of information found on pages 11, and 85, of "full planet, empty plates-the Geo-politics of food scarcity" by Lester Brown (Earthpolicy USA)

*3 = summary of information found on page 234 "the world in 2050" by Laurence C. Smith

*4 = "Goblet of the Truth" page LXIII, copyright FIGU/BEAM/published in Canada by the FIGU-Landesgruppe Canada

*5 = information from the FIGU Gratisschrift "Reichtum der Gewaltlosigkeit und tiefgreifende Geisteslehreuaslegungen" copyright FIGU/BEAM. The English translation by Adam Dei Rocini of the FIGU-Landesgruppe Australia can be found here: http://au.figu.org/wealth_gewaltlosigkeit.html
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Billwilson12
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Posted on Monday, March 28, 2016 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jim harrison another 1937 child has moved on a poet/novelest will join us again in time.
Peace
Billy Wilson
OM.K49 34. The human-restricted personality is itself only from time to time conscious. In between times lie great holes in the consciousness.
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Billwilson12
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Posted on Monday, March 28, 2016 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Corey you have already turned me into a mediating humanoid. Each day is spent on storing as much fluidic energy as possible for me in these bones I have now. At least I no longer want them blown to vapor no matter the past steps have been, I have made steps for the better.
Peace
Billy Wilson
OM.K49 34. The human-restricted personality is itself only from time to time conscious. In between times lie great holes in the consciousness.
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Kenneth
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Posted on Monday, March 28, 2016 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bill,

Regarding Jim Harrison; very well said.

Thanks
Kenneth
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Corey
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Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2016 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Billwilson12: I am happy for you for your developments for the positive, as well as, the negative/positive.
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Billwilson12
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From looking at all the information I can find, all of the cultures that have stood the test of time great care has been given to the care of the cultures dead's bones. Even with the Hindu's burning the dead it is only to the bone which is then encased in the river silt/mud. And all had a far more active pineal glad with which to steer energies that we are losing to noise of techno toys and other the worthless worship noise. Even in the time of Jmmanuel it was custom to let the bones be bleached an picked in the sun then placed safely in a stone box. Hidden in plain sight are some of the important details we miss thanks to the materail minded leaders.
Peace Coery all the others.
Billy Wilson
OM.K49 34. The human-restricted personality is itself only from time to time conscious. In between times lie great holes in the consciousness.
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Billwilson12
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Merle Ronald Haggard born in 1937 just outside of Bakersfield, Calif another gifted child of 1937 has gone to get ready help us out again in near future.
Peace
Billy Wilson
OM.K49 34. The human-restricted personality is itself only from time to time conscious. In between times lie great holes in the consciousness.
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Marbar
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Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2016 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When I woman have a miscarriage, it is very devastating to her. Now, I want to know from the spiritual teachings perspective on what a miscarriage is. That is how it affect the spiritform?

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