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    Corey Member Post Number: 11 Registered: 10-2016 |
Tyler_Rutland: one more thing, a true human being would not smoke drugs, nor would they go out on binge drinking, because the teaching of Nokodemion would prohibit altering your mind state artificially through drugs, and through alcohol. "Goblet" recommends that drinking alcoholic drinks in moderation is still OK as long as you do not indulge in drunkeness (teaching from the line of 7), but in the German book "Teaching Script" recommends teaching that traces back to Nokodemion forbids the consumption of alcoholic drinks, and the drug thing Billy has answered this several times as a "No, don't do drugs" several places, and I think there are notes with Ptaah about the negativity of refer's mind altering (therefore consciousness altering) effects. Salome/Corey Müske | ||
Tyler_rutland Member Post Number: 65 Registered: 01-2016 |
Hmph. ... Well, that's fine I suppose. But if I really wanted the truth in Billy's words, I could have gone to read what he wrote.. | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 648 Registered: 12-2011 |
Scott I was under the impression that the soul or as Billy called it the psyche never dies as it is the part of reincarnation. joe | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 397 Registered: 07-2006 |
Joe, In the Material Consciousness realm is the Psyche which dissolves after death. In the Spirit Consciousness realm is the Gemüt. I think you have the two confused with each other. See: https://www.creationaltruth.org/Portals/0/Documents/Reference%20Material/Consciousness%20Spheres.pdf Hope this helps Salome PatM | ||
Stefan_z2 Member Post Number: 140 Registered: 12-2014 |
Hi, We know already, how important it is to have a smile on our face, this can easily be learned and trained, and is not really that difficult. The Psyche writes about it. Us making sure that we are walking through life, balanced in harmony, with a tiny bit of overall optimism and positivity to make the difference, as we know that there will be a happy ending, at latest at the end of evolution towards the BEING. Attention to happiness is no minor aspect. Recall the oldest form of mental-block-meditation, used by Nokodemion (the arrows are my own conclusion) … love… => …peace… => …freedom… => …harmony… => …unburdened… => …health… => …joy Salome & Joy, Stefan ************************* http://news.psu.edu/story/441750/2016/12/13/research/workplace-fun-fundamental-learning-job Everyone is familiar with “do more with less” making it tempting to cut efforts for well-being and work climate. Helpful studies from last week come here to rescue. The understanding is growing that people with a smile on their face tend to be more productive http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/newsandevents/pressreleases/rise_in_workers146 and successful in whatever they do in life. No surprise that this also applies to learning on the job. On a lighter note: horrified by (possible) mishaps in presentation settings? Tell yourself and others http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/2016/12/showing-distress-work-recover-reframe-it-passion that all is good, only a sign of desirable passion ;-) | ||
Benhilo Member Post Number: 22 Registered: 02-2012 |
In contact report10 Semjase states "it (the spirit) informs the human whether his thoughts are correct or false-if he has learned to pay attention", the question is how do we learn to pay attention; what are we looking for? Salome Stefan (benhilo) | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 667 Registered: 12-2011 |
Benhilo What we are looking for is to live our life here on earth according to creational laws. Not so much mans law because it is all tied to religion and the monetary system. Treat people with respect help them but do not let them use you. We all know the the difference between good and bad. joe | ||
Tyler_rutland Member Post Number: 68 Registered: 01-2016 |
The leading thought is what is guiding us and informs us if what we are thinking is right or false, and it is what informs us when our actions are righteous or selfish. | ||
Tyler_rutland Member Post Number: 69 Registered: 01-2016 |
Hi Benhilo, All we have to do is study the spirit teaching, and especially the Goblet of the Truth, and perform a post-meditation activity which means trying to keep what was learned active in our consciousness. When we do that and then pay attention in life, even just by learning the simplest breathing meditation that allows us to gradually develop heedfulness to our own inner world as well as improving our ability to hold onto what was learned and studied, then gradually we will increase in the knowledge through repetition of study and learning until our admonishment is able to work inside of us. That's when we will hear the leading thought and become able to be guided by it. We just have to repeatedly study the spirit teaching, especially the Goblet of the Truth, and then pay attention in our daily lives. The prayer from Nokodemion helps immensely too, and even by going this simple way, in time we will become more willing to be guided by the leading thought in the sense of the truth. The more we learn, and especially from out of the Goblet of the Truth because it is the most valuable teaching book of them all, the greater our willingness (open sense) toward the truth will become, and the greater we can understand and hear the leading thought. | ||
Yoid Member Post Number: 115 Registered: 12-2008 |
What causes dislike at first meeting between persons? Is this realated to spiritual level difference or something else? For example person with lower spiritual level feel vibes(other frequency) from higher spiritual level person which cause him/her dislike or vice versa? thanks | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 737 Registered: 08-2010 |
Hello Yoid, here is what it says in the Goblet of the Truth chapter 21 v. 12-18 12) Truly, you human beings are chased by your drives, but you must yourselves search for their sense, since through the creational laws and recommendations you are given the freedom in your own will so that you yourselves may fathom out everything and subsequently decide the whole. 13) Therefore you also decide yourselves if you are befallen by anger, that you once again struggle for reconciliation, are not seized by hatred, so that you can create the love in yourselves and also win the love of your fellow human beings. 14) Often, melancholy creeps into you human beings, however only so that you may find the origins of the true joy without you letting yourselves be encircled by compulsions and you can reach out for true love and inner freedom, harmony and inner peace. 15) And truly, the volition never comes from nothing, because in truth you must search for what you want as human beings in your own inner nature, find it and motivate it to the will, but to do this, thought-impulses are needed, through which then the will is built up and through which then the life is changed, if you only let yourselves be touched and guided by your true inner nature; therefore you shall involve yourselves in things which you recognise to be really valueful and of which you think, that it can stimulate you. 16) Naturally, each of you human beings – with extremely few exceptions – has quite distinct fundamental problems which accompany you and which weigh on you to a greater or lesser extent, whether it be anxiety or fear, jealousy, envy, stinginess, vice, pathological craving, hatred, immoderateness or pathological craving for wasting things, etc., however it should be important for each of you to recognise these problems in detail, because they determine the life and therefore should be fought and cleared up. 17) Such fundamental problems are not only the greatest tasks and challenges which you human beings have to master, because you must also become aware and learn to understand that everything in the life is founded upon contrarinesses, as a result of which, given the due effort, each thief or deceiver can become honest, the angry mild, the immoderate modest and the angstful courageous. 18) Indeed, your life is extremely exciting and instructive in every wise – it only needs to be understood. http://www.figu.org/ch/files/downloads/buecher/goblet-of-the-truth.pdf Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 93 Registered: 10-2016 |
Hello Yoid, Great question, in Billy's meditation book, he roughly explains that when two people meet, if their unconscious (not the same as subconsciousness) are able to meet, and connect with each other energetically, this results in a feeling of sympathy for the other human being (and will result in like for the other human-being). If the unconscious cannot meet, and connect energetically, this will result in feeling for antipathy of the other human-being (this will result in dislike for the other human-being). Salome/Corey Müske | ||
Tyler_rutland Member Post Number: 76 Registered: 01-2016 |
Probably not. It's our material consciousness and our psyche that we use to deal with other people. We *are* able to create an artificial state of happiness based on wishful thinking and imagination, but then our true consciousness-bearing is going to come out again and again for as long as we haven't actually built a good existence based on what is provided for us from the creational-natural laws and guidelines. This happens when somebody comes along and interrupts our fantasy so that our true consciousness-bearing and consciousness-attitude comes out again, that we aren't actually happy or content but are just living in an illusionary state of contentment based on fantasy. This is like, if we are sitting on the computer absorbed in some fantasy like from reading spirit teaching texts, then we can erect a temporary state of contentment based on that, and then we may feel pretty good while we are immersed in that, and we can even feel like we are very evolved already and plenty good. But then once real life interrupts that and gets in front of us again, our true conciousness-attitude comes to the surface again and then we actually can't tolerate other people yet because we aren't really living a good existence, we are just imagining that we do. If our body is unhealthy or our consciousness and psyche are disturbed, and we don't actually lead a useful activity in our daily life, then when real life comes up in front of us, we can easily get into the pattern of seeing the worst in others and then we can easily fall prey to the delusion that others are boring, uninteresting, or bad and then immediately dislike them based on dumb or selfish reasons. This easily happens in a religion, since people read the texts and create an artificial contentment based on an illusion, but then they only want to be around other people who share in the same interest so that we can maintain the illusion of already being far enough along and not needing to do any work on ourselves. This happens because we then fall prey to illusion that we are far enough evolved already but then it can only be maintained when we talk to other people who share our viewpoint so that we can maintain the illusion, but then when it actually comes to dealing with our fellow humans who maintain a different outlook or a different set of beliefs or a different attitude, we aren't actually any farther along in accepting their right to exist and so we just immediately react with dislike because we don't actually want to have to deal with the truth, we just want to live in our illusion and be among people who can confirm our delusions and let us go on living in the illusion that we are already good and evolved sufficiently because they agree with us and this grants us the feeling that we are already on top of things when in reality we are not. When we are successful in changing ourselves to the positive, even if we then fall back into the negative misery now and then as we learn to make the positive permanent in our lives, then for brief periods we might succeed in recognising others in more positive light and then we at least stand to give the other person a fair chance. It's when we are unhealthy, unsatisfied, uncontent that we see only bad and ugliness in others instead of seeing their good characteristics too. A lot of times, when we are befallen by negativity and uncontentment, we make a snap judgement on others based on their clothing, their expression, their kind of colloquial speech, or their foreign skin colour or their profession. But then this is because we are being selfish and our open sense to the truth is shut, so we are not, in those moments, looking for the inner creational nature in the other person, so then we fail to see their positive traits. So we do not look for common ground with them, and since our contentment is only based on an illusion that disappears when we are removed from the source of our fantasy contentment, we actually have no true joy or peace to extend to them. And so we just feel stunned by their presence instead and don't have anything good or worthy to say and we don't have any warm, friendly greeting because we then just want to be left alone so that we can continue to immerse ourselves in whatever it is that was making us feel an illusionary contentment. It goes very differently when, for instance, we actually have realised some of our consciousness potential from out of applying the lessons of the spirit teaching. This is able to work properly when, for instance, we actually develop a useful skill and create a useful, productive hobby that is able to give us a good sense of identity and daily purpose. Then, if we are actually living out the good and working joyfully on our hobby or interest, we have got some real joy and real contentment and so then our psyche and consciousness are already radiating the factor of goodness and satisfaction out into our environment, and so then when other people encounter us we are glad to see them and we will welcome them with a real, open cheer and real friendliness. The alternative takes place when we are really actually disatisfied with the reality of our existence, but we cocoon ourselves in a self-created reality and then we don't want to meet anybody or really greet them because we still just want to be left alone to live in our bubble and not have to actually work on improving our existence. | ||
Tyler_rutland Member Post Number: 77 Registered: 01-2016 |
Actually, the example of reading spiritual teaching texts is a poor one, since the nature of that is more helpful even if we are still just reading based on a blind trust. So even reading spiritual teaching texts is helpful, so a better example to use would probably be like, when we put on our headphones and feel good so long as we are listening to music that makes us feel happy. For as long as we listen to music, we are often able to erect a feeling of well-being and then we can feel good about ourselves. But then we don't want to take the headphones off or deal with reality, since our existence is actually still dissatisfying to us. Or it is like this, when we are in a bar socialising with our pals and living in an illusion of being content and happy with them, then we are able to coccoon ourselves and our group into a self-created reality where we all esteem each other as being worthy of belonging. But then, since we are not actually radiating any real goodness or positivness or joy or contentment, we are just living in an illusion of merriment and so if somebody outside of the group comes along and says hello or introduces themselves, we feel completely stunned by that and then often we will not have any joy to greet them with because we actually are not joyful or content, we are just living in an illusion of contentment. This easily lets it be so, that we then see those who are gathered around us as being evolved at our level, and then if somebody else comes along and interrupts we may suddenly feel like we hate them and want them to go away from us. But it is all because we are not actually content or living in joy, because we are just living in an illusionary state of contentment and revelry that cannot extend beyond our circle because it is not real joy based in reality, but only an illusionary joy based in fantasy that we have created as a delusion at our table. - - - Did I make it clear enough? I hope this helps really, but if it doesn't let's discuss more since already I'm actually feeling like I'm committing a fraud here. | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 695 Registered: 12-2011 |
Yoid Hard to say,but I think that it is what called intuition. The spirit does not differentiate at all. It is a human feeling. joe | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 697 Registered: 12-2011 |
Tyler-rutland Explain this if what you say is true then how come that it is very rare that I do not trust a person. When it does happen I give them the benefit of doubt and I am right. I judge on their sincerity by letting them speak, this usually confirms my suspicions. So if I believe what you say then it is incorrect. joe | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 261 Registered: 02-2010 |
Tyler..... once again I love your posts and I like the way you think...therefore you are just as much a teacher as well as a student.... Joe, my suggestion to you my son is to make sure you have a read through and through The Goblet of the Truth and The Might of the Thoughts... and don't forget to Meditate and I will guarantee the majority of your Questions will be Answered by You and You will not have to "believe" anything or anyone MsMichelle | ||
Tyler_rutland New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 01-2016 |
Ok, well there are enough people that I have disliked by listening to them too. But Yoid asked about disliking people on first meeting them, and from my experience as the person rejected and as the person who has been stunned by others barging into my bubble, that has been my experience in the matter - that it has to do with actually being uncontent and just living in a personal created illusion. | ||
Tyler_rutland New member Post Number: 4 Registered: 01-2016 |
Oh, sorry Votan. I didn't understand your post properly. Well.. honestly I don't know about that, but I'm not sure how it relates to disliking people on first encountering them? since you wrote about trusting everyone instead, which is not the same topic, if I understand correctly? Honestly I don't know why you trust everyone- what does your own discernment say about it? | ||
Tyler_rutland Member Post Number: 5 Registered: 01-2016 |
.... Oh I was totally wrong then. Your post really explained it Corey. Ok I'm leaving the forum now. I see things in my head that don't match reality, so I don't belong. | ||
Tyler_rutland Member Post Number: 6 Registered: 01-2016 |
Your post is overall quite confusing to me actually, and I'm trouble understanding what you are actually saying. Can you spell it out a bit clearer so we could discuss it since who knows what we could learn even further from that? | ||
Tyler_rutland Member Post Number: 7 Registered: 01-2016 |
Thanks Michelle, though I'm sorry for writing long, it feels crap honestly. That post was a mistake I feel, for being so long-winded. I'm no expert ... just a guy who has thought a loooot about things and matters that he encounters every day of his life and who writes a crazy lot of words trying to learn and digest so much. | ||
Yoid Member Post Number: 116 Registered: 12-2008 |
What I basically want to write is that as long as i read billy books i started to see the life in different way. I cannot look at person as before just as another spirit in human body. I sense their inner feelings somehow lot of bad vibes hatred etc . I dont know what is it but those kind of persons i cant connect cant even speak.There are lot of them around.Sometimes meet nice vibes symphatic person so can be together but its rare.I think lot of people have bad thoughts.I feel that i am alone among lot of people.You cant talk them about what we are talking here, about spiritual teachings.They are different. |
